The real question: Who gives a crap if there's controversy? Isn't it a bit more important to ask whether babies are killed? That fact is much more important than people arguing about it.
You moron, chitosan is not a shrimp-specific substance, it is a moderately common biological chemical. It's a derivative of chitin, and it's common in exoskeletons of various animals. They just happened to use shrimp to get it for this application, probably because they're easiest to extract it from.
Security by obscurity is OK the way they use it, which is to keep the vulnerability from being widely known and exploited until they have a patch. It's only unacceptable when it's the only security.
Anthracite, the cleanest-burning coal, is also called hard coal because it's the densest variety and it contains the least moisture. Lignite, the type they squeezed, is the crappiest kind of coal. It is almost half water and is quite light. How many brilliant people did it take to think "maybe if we make lignite denser and take the water out, it'll burn more cleanly!"???
A contract proposal is nothing but a piece of paper with some ink on it. There's nothing magical or mysterious about a proposed contract that should prevent you from altering it to suit you better.
The BOFH agrees.
I guess you're right about blackhats' altruism, so scratch that argument. Howver, I think most blackhats make the simple exploits for their own use and publish them to gain notoriety. What's the point of writing a brilliant piece of code if nobody knows it? Besides, maybe someone else will find a problem with it and ix it, and it'll work even better! Yay!
It's usually to encourage people to patch their systems or to make it easier on themselves to use the exploits. If there are 4 blackhats who know how to break into my system and there never will be others, I'm not too likely to care. If there are 6,302,466 script kiddies who know how to break into my system, more are on the way, and they are choosing systems at random, I'm going to be frickin scared and patch my system as soon as possible.
Also, if I'm a blackhat, and I'm ticked off at some message board operators for banning my IP, would I rather go into ~/exploits, execute./apache_1.3_bof, and redirect their page to goat.cx? Or do I want to spend hours or days collecting information about the target system so I can write an exploit appropriate for their system, test it on my own box set up as closely as possible to the same way theirs is, repeat as necessary, then execute it and redirect their page to goat.cx?
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An arsonist just pours some gas and lights a match. That's more like what a script kiddie does. They just throw some exploits at random machines and try to install subseven. Obviously they don't know jack about security. A skilled hacker is more like an experienced thief. They use complex techiques to avoid detection, make surgical strikes at predetermined targets, and learn about their targets' security measures to more effectively neutralize them. Those people make good security experts.
Just becaus something is a microbe doesn't make it harmful to humans. How exactly would they have evolved to spread by or do damage to humans if they've been separated from us for that long?
Frick dude, I've downloaded feature films, and I'm on dialup. It's much less difficult than waiting for, say, Austin Powers to come to video after it's left the theaters.
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I was exhausted on the 2nd opponent, you insensitive clod! Three times!
The real question: Who gives a crap if there's controversy? Isn't it a bit more important to ask whether babies are killed? That fact is much more important than people arguing about it.
You moron, chitosan is not a shrimp-specific substance, it is a moderately common biological chemical. It's a derivative of chitin, and it's common in exoskeletons of various animals. They just happened to use shrimp to get it for this application, probably because they're easiest to extract it from.
^ is XOR.
Playboy is not pornography (vulgarly called porn, p0rn, pr0n and/or derivatives), it's erotica.
Are you sure? Maybe I don't like Playboy. According to Wikipedia, "Erotica is what I like. Pornography is what you like, you pervert."
That moderation up there... It doesn't say "Offtopic", does it? I really hope I'm misreading it...
Note the historical significance of the date.
Very significant:
1993 - Doom press-release version is made available to journalists for review.
Security by obscurity is OK the way they use it, which is to keep the vulnerability from being widely known and exploited until they have a patch. It's only unacceptable when it's the only security.
Cause I'm a high schooler with no interest in coal refining...
Anthracite, the cleanest-burning coal, is also called hard coal because it's the densest variety and it contains the least moisture. Lignite, the type they squeezed, is the crappiest kind of coal. It is almost half water and is quite light. How many brilliant people did it take to think "maybe if we make lignite denser and take the water out, it'll burn more cleanly!"???
A contract proposal is nothing but a piece of paper with some ink on it. There's nothing magical or mysterious about a proposed contract that should prevent you from altering it to suit you better. The BOFH agrees.
You can play DVDs on paper? I ph33r your writing skillz!
You better not let anyone find out what company you work for. That could cause problems.
I guess you're right about blackhats' altruism, so scratch that argument. Howver, I think most blackhats make the simple exploits for their own use and publish them to gain notoriety. What's the point of writing a brilliant piece of code if nobody knows it? Besides, maybe someone else will find a problem with it and ix it, and it'll work even better! Yay!
It's usually to encourage people to patch their systems or to make it easier on themselves to use the exploits. If there are 4 blackhats who know how to break into my system and there never will be others, I'm not too likely to care. If there are 6,302,466 script kiddies who know how to break into my system, more are on the way, and they are choosing systems at random, I'm going to be frickin scared and patch my system as soon as possible. Also, if I'm a blackhat, and I'm ticked off at some message board operators for banning my IP, would I rather go into ~/exploits, execute ./apache_1.3_bof, and redirect their page to goat.cx? Or do I want to spend hours or days collecting information about the target system so I can write an exploit appropriate for their system, test it on my own box set up as closely as possible to the same way theirs is, repeat as necessary, then execute it and redirect their page to goat.cx?
An arsonist just pours some gas and lights a match. That's more like what a script kiddie does. They just throw some exploits at random machines and try to install subseven. Obviously they don't know jack about security. A skilled hacker is more like an experienced thief. They use complex techiques to avoid detection, make surgical strikes at predetermined targets, and learn about their targets' security measures to more effectively neutralize them. Those people make good security experts.
The past 7 years was the coming of the AOL generation. The good old days are gone. Sorry, dude.
I suppose I shouldn't point out that you made mistakes in that post.
... Troops in battle are going to stop, drop their weapons, and pee on their food for a quick dinner?
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Just becaus something is a microbe doesn't make it harmful to humans. How exactly would they have evolved to spread by or do damage to humans if they've been separated from us for that long?
Bend over and I'll show you.
Frick dude, I've downloaded feature films, and I'm on dialup. It's much less difficult than waiting for, say, Austin Powers to come to video after it's left the theaters.
Dave Barry reference.
Two Greek words: "broad", mneaning "a word", and "band", meaning "that has something to do with the internet."