I think this is overwhelmingly likely. I noticed x86 wasn't on the list in the summary, but once they realize the sheer cost involved in supporting all the legacy applications that now won't work on another arch (but that the country runs on), they will either use an x86 derivative, or nerf their laws to allow (home grown) || (x86) to use government money. -nB
Quite likely. Many people have invented systems they, themselves can not hack. This is a fairly common hubris in the security industry outside of the core people. vendor - use our product, it's invincible customer - [adjusts foil hat] I don't know, I think the NSA might have a back door vendor - you're just paranoid Schnier - well he's come to the right conclusion, if only by accident. Your system has this bit here that's totally exploitable with a paperclip and duct tape, here's McGuyver to demonstrate Chuck Norris - [roundhouse] now it's *all* broken vendor - [waving arms] pay no attention to the man behind the curtain anon - [replaces vendor splash screen with manifesto] heh vendor - they're hacking us!!! Oh noes!! world - faith lost, no one buys product Schnier - "told ya so"
or something like that. Also I am asserting (C) on the preceding play/skit including choreography and language 2012, by networkBoy. And finally, I hereby release the aforementioned (C) into the public domain. -nB
It is/We are. Welcome to California where we elect guys named Moonbeam to office. In our defense, you all promoted our astrology based governor to be president once...
Yes, I realize that, and even thought about correcting myself but did not, so now instead I apologize to an AC, but heck, we're rationally discussing God on/. so I suppose he exists, as here before me I see a miracle:P
Actually there is a statistical probability value that would account for earth being the only planet with life. if the probability is 1/(habitable planets) then we would expect that we are the only ones. So it is not a done deal, though in spirit I do agree with you that it is likely to have happened/will happen somewhere else. -nB
If you are willing to stipulate that God exists this actually makes for an awesome thought experiment. Would God, being omnipotent and omnipresent want multiple worlds of beings? What if he was curious* as to silicon based life, that would appear to be incompatible with a world configured for carbon life, so he would need to spin up another world. What if God wanted a world of fire to play with creatures for whom consciousness existed in the flickering of flames? There appears to be no reason why he wouldn't want other worlds, of course there is also no reason why he would either.
Imagine the possibilities, something akin to the final scene of MiB where the galaxy is really in a marble being played with, maybe there are other marbles?
Whether or not you choose to believe is a decision only you can make, doesn't mean you can't have fun with various viewpoints. That said, I think the God talk on/. is the new troll. Guaranteed to get a response every time;) -nB
* Of course being omnipotent means there is no curiosity, as God already knows everything... Thus why bother with the first world (assuming that's us) in the first place?
I'm not so sure... I have children and I will not fly with them because of the TSA. The odds of being killed in an airplane are lower than for driving, however with the TSA's antics the odds of being _harmed_ are near 100%. I choose to not put my 8 year old daughter in a position where she will be harmed with near certainty. Until I can afford to charter private flights I will not be flying with my family. -nB
That's very interesting. What other standard safety measures do you find useless? Have you short circuited all the circuit breakers in your house? Remove the safety railing next to your stairs? Cut the seat belts out of your car? Thrown away the life jackets on your boat?
yes, yes, no (it never came with them), and I wish I had a boat... (kidding of course, it is absurd how people rely on one thing to protect them and assume it will never fail.)
Sure it does. It applies here just as much as it applies to my making a website spouting WhitePowerBS(tm) and my other website decrying WhitePowerBS(tm) in the most profane ways possible. It applies here just as much as my gripe site about gripe sites, my gripe site about insurance companies, etc. It applies here just as much as it does for the PTA website for the school my kids go to.
The First Amendment guarantees your ability to say darn near anything you want. Doesn't mean you won't be held liable for the outcomes of that speech (i.e. in the WhitePowerBS(tm) site if you manage to provoke a race riot, you're in some really hot water)... -nB
But the space station is much farther out, I think the linear velocity of the space station is higher as well, however, good luck doing that in anything but the thinnest wisps of atmosphere in LEO. -nB
And while they're busy doing that they often manage to put on one hell of a show: * this effort * the autonomous vehicle DARPA Challenge * other random bits that we read about * certainly other random bits we have no idea about, but I bet they're cool! -nB
In which case I see no issue. I see it in the same light as my typing this reply on my work provided notebook over my work provided network connection on my lunch break. My employer is entitled to: * look at my browser cache * look at the proxy logs * instruct the proxy to cache all content to/from my machine on the net etc.
These phones are no different. The teens were employed by the study, payment was in the form of an unlimited phone for the duration of employment. The only difference in this case is the whole reason for employment in this case was to allow snooping, as opposed to my employment being to surf the web and look for security related stuff, then apply what I see/learn to our latest products as an attack, and document my success/failure with said attacks. -nB
All they have to do is file a FOIA request and "force" you to turn over the codebase, what they do with it after that is not your concern or liability... perhaps you could even automate handling of FOIA requests for the automation of FOIA request requests, which in turn handles automation of FOIA requests for the automated grant handler... I think I got that close enough... -nB
First: iPod Touch could do moths of this without the phone portion Second: I'd switch banks, but not because of the app, rather because Chase is so predatory as to be more evil than any other bank out there. (note the current pending class action lawsuits about breach of contract/bad faith negotiations, etc. on their credit card accounts). Finally: if it's a smartphone only app, then I suppose I'm not going to miss it, because I have a Nokia micro-brick with no camera. On the bright side I can take my phone in the lab at work, everyone with a camera phone can't:-) -nB
Funny, I replaced all the wall lights in my family room (which tend to be left on by anyone and everyone) with LEDs. Old bulbs: 6x 40 Watt, burn out on average one bulb per month. New bulbs: Phillips 2.5w ambient bulbs ($15/each) 8 months in, none have burned out, and I've gone from: 240W/hr to 15W/hr. Given that these bulbs are on no less than 10 hours a day: 2.4KW/h draw replaced with 150W/h or at $0.12/KW/h $8.64/month to $0.54/month ($48.60 in 6 months) in electricity just for that room. In 1 year all those bulbs will have paid for themselves. (this doesn't count the added cost of AC in the summer for heat or the savings on gas in winter).
What people tend not to like about the LED bulbs is the directionality of the light. Almost all other sources of light throw the light evenly in all directions, but with LEDs (even with a diffuser) the light tends to be directional. For some applications this is an issue, but for others, not so much. -nB
Bottom line, importing 'slave labor' from other countries is common practice in the U.S., and at a time of economic crisis, it should be criminal.
I think his complaint revolved around the improper documentation of the imported slave labor, B-1 Vs. H-1b... At my company we have only H-1b for those working on a Visa, I think the only B-1's we use are for those who are already employees with us in their home country and are on a job rotation assignment. The reason is simple: While a B-1 is cheaper and easier, if you screw up even once, the fine will make up the savings counted against ~12 H-1b's... I don't know if that made sense... 1 'bad' B-1 is more expensive than ([12*H-1b's] - [12*B-1's]), give or take a couple. It's just not worth it when you deal with huge numbers of staff in a global company, too much room for error. -nB
I get what you're saying, but my expectation would be (given an 'optional' payment like in this case): Roll the trucks, put out the blaze. Later settle the accounts: You didn't pay the $75, so you were not "insured" as it were. Here is a bill for services, and no it can't be liquidated through Ch7/11/13 because like a tax debt, it is from the government. The bill gets first dibbs on your insurance payout. It would suck, but it seems more sensible.
My wife's grandfather had a field fire, the dept came and put it out, then sent him a bill for $5K because he was not in their official coverage area. He filed a claim on his insurance and they paid the dept. -nB
No sir. These days the subject only has to hold still long enough for them to say the word "Cheese" (though adding "eating surrender monkey" helps), within seconds a floppy flexible plastic card pops out all grey, with a white border, and as you sit still and watch the picture automagically appears out of the grey fog in the plastic. if you bend or touch it before the picture has appeared your subjects will appear mutated.
Because everyone already knows they are racist nutbags. your hypothetical white preachers are unknown, thus will be villified. really that simple. better analogy: Picture the following situation: a black neighborhood watch volunteer kills an unarmed white kid. Two white public clansmen jump into the fray and make loud declarations about the racial nature of the killing.
I realize this is on the verge of godwinning a thread, but there you go, it's (IMHO) closer to reality. -nB
To which I will respond: Good luck with that. Entry level students are almost the definition of "idiot". They will break your software [idea] in multitudes of glorious ways, at which point a human will still need to be involved. Once you fix all the issues raised by this year's freshman class, next years class will bring all new levels of idiot to the table and break you again. It's the way of the world.
I genuinely believe you mean well, but God makes awesome idiots. -nB
Slashdot Mirror
I think this is overwhelmingly likely.
I noticed x86 wasn't on the list in the summary, but once they realize the sheer cost involved in supporting all the legacy applications that now won't work on another arch (but that the country runs on), they will either use an x86 derivative, or nerf their laws to allow (home grown) || (x86) to use government money.
-nB
Maybe they think they're hack-proof or something.
Quite likely. Many people have invented systems they, themselves can not hack. This is a fairly common hubris in the security industry outside of the core people.
vendor - use our product, it's invincible
customer - [adjusts foil hat] I don't know, I think the NSA might have a back door
vendor - you're just paranoid
Schnier - well he's come to the right conclusion, if only by accident. Your system has this bit here that's totally exploitable with a paperclip and duct tape, here's McGuyver to demonstrate
Chuck Norris - [roundhouse] now it's *all* broken
vendor - [waving arms] pay no attention to the man behind the curtain
anon - [replaces vendor splash screen with manifesto] heh
vendor - they're hacking us!!! Oh noes!!
world - faith lost, no one buys product
Schnier - "told ya so"
or something like that.
Also I am asserting (C) on the preceding play/skit including choreography and language 2012, by networkBoy.
And finally, I hereby release the aforementioned (C) into the public domain.
-nB
It is/We are. Welcome to California where we elect guys named Moonbeam to office. In our defense, you all promoted our astrology based governor to be president once...
Yes, I realize that, and even thought about correcting myself but did not, so now instead I apologize to an AC, but heck, we're rationally discussing God on /. so I suppose he exists, as here before me I see a miracle :P
Actually there is a statistical probability value that would account for earth being the only planet with life. if the probability is 1/(habitable planets) then we would expect that we are the only ones. So it is not a done deal, though in spirit I do agree with you that it is likely to have happened/will happen somewhere else.
-nB
If you are willing to stipulate that God exists this actually makes for an awesome thought experiment.
Would God, being omnipotent and omnipresent want multiple worlds of beings?
What if he was curious* as to silicon based life, that would appear to be incompatible with a world configured for carbon life, so he would need to spin up another world.
What if God wanted a world of fire to play with creatures for whom consciousness existed in the flickering of flames?
There appears to be no reason why he wouldn't want other worlds, of course there is also no reason why he would either.
Imagine the possibilities, something akin to the final scene of MiB where the galaxy is really in a marble being played with, maybe there are other marbles?
Whether or not you choose to believe is a decision only you can make, doesn't mean you can't have fun with various viewpoints. That said, I think the God talk on /. is the new troll. Guaranteed to get a response every time ;)
-nB
* Of course being omnipotent means there is no curiosity, as God already knows everything... Thus why bother with the first world (assuming that's us) in the first place?
I'm not so sure...
I have children and I will not fly with them because of the TSA.
The odds of being killed in an airplane are lower than for driving, however with the TSA's antics the odds of being _harmed_ are near 100%.
I choose to not put my 8 year old daughter in a position where she will be harmed with near certainty. Until I can afford to charter private flights I will not be flying with my family.
-nB
That's very interesting. What other standard safety measures do you find useless? Have you short circuited all the circuit breakers in your house? Remove the safety railing next to your stairs? Cut the seat belts out of your car? Thrown away the life jackets on your boat?
yes, yes, no (it never came with them), and I wish I had a boat...
(kidding of course, it is absurd how people rely on one thing to protect them and assume it will never fail.)
Nah, I think it's the schools.
The disparity of quality of education at schools is amazing, even within the same school district.
-nB
Sure it does.
It applies here just as much as it applies to my making a website spouting WhitePowerBS(tm) and my other website decrying WhitePowerBS(tm) in the most profane ways possible.
It applies here just as much as my gripe site about gripe sites, my gripe site about insurance companies, etc.
It applies here just as much as it does for the PTA website for the school my kids go to.
The First Amendment guarantees your ability to say darn near anything you want. Doesn't mean you won't be held liable for the outcomes of that speech (i.e. in the WhitePowerBS(tm) site if you manage to provoke a race riot, you're in some really hot water)...
-nB
But the space station is much farther out, I think the linear velocity of the space station is higher as well, however, good luck doing that in anything but the thinnest wisps of atmosphere in LEO.
-nB
And while they're busy doing that they often manage to put on one hell of a show:
* this effort
* the autonomous vehicle DARPA Challenge
* other random bits that we read about
* certainly other random bits we have no idea about, but I bet they're cool!
-nB
In which case I see no issue.
I see it in the same light as my typing this reply on my work provided notebook over my work provided network connection on my lunch break. My employer is entitled to:
* look at my browser cache
* look at the proxy logs
* instruct the proxy to cache all content to/from my machine on the net
etc.
These phones are no different. The teens were employed by the study, payment was in the form of an unlimited phone for the duration of employment. The only difference in this case is the whole reason for employment in this case was to allow snooping, as opposed to my employment being to surf the web and look for security related stuff, then apply what I see/learn to our latest products as an attack, and document my success/failure with said attacks.
-nB
All they have to do is file a FOIA request and "force" you to turn over the codebase, what they do with it after that is not your concern or liability...
perhaps you could even automate handling of FOIA requests for the automation of FOIA request requests, which in turn handles automation of FOIA requests for the automated grant handler...
I think I got that close enough...
-nB
First: iPod Touch could do moths of this without the phone portion :-)
Second: I'd switch banks, but not because of the app, rather because Chase is so predatory as to be more evil than any other bank out there. (note the current pending class action lawsuits about breach of contract/bad faith negotiations, etc. on their credit card accounts).
Finally: if it's a smartphone only app, then I suppose I'm not going to miss it, because I have a Nokia micro-brick with no camera. On the bright side I can take my phone in the lab at work, everyone with a camera phone can't
-nB
Funny, I replaced all the wall lights in my family room (which tend to be left on by anyone and everyone) with LEDs.
Old bulbs: 6x 40 Watt, burn out on average one bulb per month.
New bulbs: Phillips 2.5w ambient bulbs ($15/each) 8 months in, none have burned out, and I've gone from:
240W/hr to 15W/hr.
Given that these bulbs are on no less than 10 hours a day:
2.4KW/h draw replaced with 150W/h or at $0.12/KW/h $8.64/month to $0.54/month ($48.60 in 6 months) in electricity just for that room. In 1 year all those bulbs will have paid for themselves.
(this doesn't count the added cost of AC in the summer for heat or the savings on gas in winter).
What people tend not to like about the LED bulbs is the directionality of the light. Almost all other sources of light throw the light evenly in all directions, but with LEDs (even with a diffuser) the light tends to be directional. For some applications this is an issue, but for others, not so much.
-nB
Bottom line, importing 'slave labor' from other countries is common practice in the U.S., and at a time of economic crisis, it should be criminal.
I think his complaint revolved around the improper documentation of the imported slave labor, B-1 Vs. H-1b...
At my company we have only H-1b for those working on a Visa, I think the only B-1's we use are for those who are already employees with us in their home country and are on a job rotation assignment. The reason is simple: While a B-1 is cheaper and easier, if you screw up even once, the fine will make up the savings counted against ~12 H-1b's...
I don't know if that made sense... 1 'bad' B-1 is more expensive than ([12*H-1b's] - [12*B-1's]), give or take a couple. It's just not worth it when you deal with huge numbers of staff in a global company, too much room for error.
-nB
I get what you're saying, but my expectation would be (given an 'optional' payment like in this case):
Roll the trucks, put out the blaze.
Later settle the accounts: You didn't pay the $75, so you were not "insured" as it were. Here is a bill for services, and no it can't be liquidated through Ch7/11/13 because like a tax debt, it is from the government. The bill gets first dibbs on your insurance payout. It would suck, but it seems more sensible.
My wife's grandfather had a field fire, the dept came and put it out, then sent him a bill for $5K because he was not in their official coverage area. He filed a claim on his insurance and they paid the dept.
-nB
happened more than once apparently: http://www.theblaze.com/stories/it-happened-again-firefighters-let-home-burn-after-owners-didnt-pay-75-protection-fee/
I thought you were trolling....
No firefighter would refuse service would they? (Send a bill later, sure, but not help?)
http://www.wpsdlocal6.com/news/local/Firefighters-watch-as-home-burns-to-the-ground-104052668.html
Well I'll be a gnat's ass on a landmine...
No sir. These days the subject only has to hold still long enough for them to say the word "Cheese" (though adding "eating surrender monkey" helps), within seconds a floppy flexible plastic card pops out all grey, with a white border, and as you sit still and watch the picture automagically appears out of the grey fog in the plastic. if you bend or touch it before the picture has appeared your subjects will appear mutated.
You don't read much then :)
Seriously, there is so much vitriol on the Internet, I've very surprised that's the worst you've seen.
Because everyone already knows they are racist nutbags.
your hypothetical white preachers are unknown, thus will be villified.
really that simple. better analogy:
Picture the following situation: a black neighborhood watch volunteer kills an unarmed white kid. Two white public clansmen jump into the fray and make loud declarations about the racial nature of the killing.
I realize this is on the verge of godwinning a thread, but there you go, it's (IMHO) closer to reality.
-nB
We are never going to agree... ;-)
I think you greatly underestimate the idiots
To which I will respond:
Good luck with that.
Entry level students are almost the definition of "idiot".
They will break your software [idea] in multitudes of glorious ways, at which point a human will still need to be involved.
Once you fix all the issues raised by this year's freshman class, next years class will bring all new levels of idiot to the table and break you again. It's the way of the world.
I genuinely believe you mean well, but God makes awesome idiots.
-nB