Apple cases are easy to open? Maybe, but getting the components out is another matter entirely. I've seen downright silly arrangements of things in Apple boxes. It's like a puzzle.
Actually, not as expensive as it could be. We had a client who was a big ergonomic furniture maker -- and the whole office got their chairs. Even though the chairs were supposed to be very good for you, I have never experienced more discomfort and shoulder pain than while using that chair. When we got different chairs, I gladly traded for something more normal (probably 100-200 dollar office chair), and have had no problem since then.
I might not be wise to say the name of the company that made the chairs, but I do have a legitimate gripe - I was somewhat harmed by their product - so perhaps I should.
I always thought it would be this way too, but it turns out the suits are in control of the little 7.5cm * 20cm piece of paper that we get every 2 weeks. This turns out not to be an insignificant factor in the IT/IS/DP industry. So whatever. Why aren't We The Geeks occupying the role of the suits? THEN we would own the world pretty much.
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"unthinkable crime"
"UNTHINKABLE crime?"
This was NOT an UNTHINKABLE crime... nor was it really "unprecedented".
Two individuals murdered 13 people and committed suicide.
The bizarre aspects of this crime all have to do with setting and locale, and with the emotional state of the perpetrators.
There is a motive based on revenge against hostile agression. Nothing unthinkable or even unusual about that.
If it had been a boarding house instead of a school, America would not be quite so up-in-arms about it.
Haven't we blown this thing out of proportion? We have two men who have killed 13 people and injured a few others.
I would be willing to bet that it would be easy to find a gangster who has killed more people in drive-by shootings. But I bet he wouldn't make the front page news for more than one day.
There are wars going on, one which threatens to exterminate an entire race, who have already had their way of life ended forever and probably will be marginalized to oblivion because of it.
Drunk drivers have killed far more than Harris and Klebold, just since the incident.
I realize that Columbine is a tragedy, but is it such a catastrophic thing that all media must be devoted to it? Other things are happening in the world, worse things, which are causing even more death and tragedy.
Dude, no. I live in texas. We CULTIVATE deer, because rednecks like to hunt them for food and sport (and mostly for sport, it gets men away from fat, angry wives.) Do not EVEN try to argue this point with me. I live in East ByGod Texas.
If we left deer in their natural state, and if we had not exterminated all their natural predators (in favor of us) their success would not be nearly so dramatic. We created the deer problem so that we can have more of them to hunt. We have created a situation where we MUST hunt them. Because they crash into our poor little cars. Boo fucking hoo.
As for what hunters do being necessary, well, we made it necessary. There are other things that hunters do that are unnecessary -- such as driving their trucks on my land, shooting their guns on my land, killing animals on my land, and leaving their trash on my land.
"That's the real problem that the SCO CEO is having. People are willing to get work done without him. If it weren't Linux, it could just as easily be Sparc Solaris at the prices Sun boxes are going for these days. "
However, I do get the feeling that if someone came out ant accused Sun Microsystems of "FRAUD", there would be some serious legal repercussions already.
I am wanting somebody to give this gentleman a taste of a bitter pill. Accusing a business of "FRAUD" is a serious matter. Perhaps a smack to the namecaller's wallet is in order? Maybe that will teach him not to accuse people of criminal activity without doing some research first?
I hope that there will be nothing in this standard that disallows it's use in open source software.
Something as simple as that could end up being a bad turning point -- what if all of a sudden, we could not display images on linux desktops, or if something like Mozilla was not allowed to have jpegs (just like it's not allowed to do 128 bit ssl or IM)
A company chief exec has come out and openly accused another company of fraud. I hope RedHat pursues this.
Before you accuse somebody of fraud (a civil crime in California and probably everywhere else in the USA), you'd better have some pretty good evidence, or have an attorney general with some good evidence, and be ready to defend your allegations of fraud in a courtroom.
If RedHat played their litigation card just right, this one word could actually end up costing SCO the farm.
I do know for certain, that if such an individual made a groundless accusation of my company committing fraud, I would file a complaint consisting of an initial petition to cease and desist, a restraining order to stop the individual from making public statements about my company and I would publicly demand a retraction from any news media that carried this story in a sympathetic vein. That's where I'd start. Then I would start tallying the potential damages from such reckless, willful defamation.
The neat difference is that this software doesn't belong to the government.
I was naievely going on the memory of "government of the people"
I forgot that "security concerns" replaced "freedom" as the national ideal some time in 1972, when the hippies were either all dead or too tired of protesting.
why are "people coming into linux who demand consistency?"
Weren't they instructed to leave their preconceived notions of computing at the entrance to the bazaar?
Will it support glibc-2.1????
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So how can I become glibc-2.1 based? ftp.gnu.org/pub/glibc/glibc-2.1-README says:
glibc-2.1 has been (temporarily) removed, until some political issues are worked out.
So much for freedom, openness, and widespread availability of the software. I feel quite locked out of the "cathedral" because of this.
Who cares about RedHat?
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Stickers? I never got any STICKERS. And come to think of it, Linux Journal never sent me a sticker either.
(I want stickers)
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The really big download is not something that everybody can take for granted. It is very nice to have the physical media. The deadtree documentation that comes with RH is really good. This appeals to some people. It does not appeal to *me*, but then again, I have a t-3 and great contempt for deadtree documentation... It's not as if the linux distributions are particularly expensive in the stores. Besides that, you'll be able to get RH6 from cheapbytes for .
"Mister Biggerstaff, I have a solution to the problem with this critical security component... it/seems/ to work fine..."
I can actually see someone getting fired in this scenario, not that they would be dumb enough to have the conversation like that... But this is the kind of trouble we are always up against.
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Apple cases are easy to open?
Maybe, but getting the components out
is another matter entirely. I've seen
downright silly arrangements of things
in Apple boxes. It's like a puzzle.
hmph. ugly.
Actually, not as expensive as it could be.
We had a client who was a big ergonomic furniture
maker -- and the whole office got their chairs.
Even though the chairs were supposed to be very
good for you, I have never experienced more discomfort and shoulder pain than while using
that chair. When we got different chairs, I
gladly traded for something more normal (probably
100-200 dollar office chair), and have had no
problem since then.
I might not be wise to say the name of the company
that made the chairs, but I do have a legitimate
gripe - I was somewhat harmed by their product -
so perhaps I should.
Okay, I will.
I always thought it would be this way too,
but it turns out the suits are in control of the little 7.5cm * 20cm piece of paper that we get
every 2 weeks. This turns out not to be an insignificant factor in the IT/IS/DP industry.
So whatever. Why aren't We The Geeks occupying
the role of the suits? THEN we would own the
world pretty much.
"unthinkable crime"
"UNTHINKABLE crime?"
This was NOT an UNTHINKABLE crime... nor was it
really "unprecedented".
Two individuals murdered 13 people and committed suicide.
The bizarre aspects of this crime all have to do
with setting and locale, and with the emotional state of the perpetrators.
There is a motive based on revenge against hostile
agression. Nothing unthinkable or even unusual about that.
If it had been a boarding house instead of a school, America would not be quite so up-in-arms about it.
Haven't we blown this thing out of proportion?
We have two men who have killed 13 people and injured a few others.
I would be willing to bet that it would be easy to
find a gangster who has killed more people in drive-by shootings. But I bet he wouldn't make
the front page news for more than one day.
There are wars going on, one which threatens to
exterminate an entire race, who have already had
their way of life ended forever and probably will
be marginalized to oblivion because of it.
Drunk drivers have killed far more than Harris and Klebold, just since the incident.
I realize that Columbine is a tragedy, but is it
such a catastrophic thing that all media must be
devoted to it? Other things are happening in
the world, worse things, which are causing even
more death and tragedy.
Wrong radio network?
"jocks" don't listen to NPR.
Few under 30 listen to NPR.
They listen to the rock station where they
are cracking jokes about the shooting, or
conveying a validating message to the small-minded.
Dude, no. I live in texas. We CULTIVATE deer,
because rednecks like to hunt them for food and
sport (and mostly for sport, it gets men away
from fat, angry wives.) Do not EVEN try to
argue this point with me. I live in East ByGod Texas.
If we left deer in their natural state, and if we had not exterminated all their natural predators (in favor of us) their success would not be nearly
so dramatic. We created the deer problem so that we can have more of them to hunt. We have created a situation where we MUST hunt them. Because they
crash into our poor little cars. Boo fucking hoo.
As for what hunters do being necessary, well, we made it necessary. There are other things that hunters do that are unnecessary -- such as driving their trucks on my land, shooting their guns on my land, killing animals on my land, and leaving their trash on my land.
"My wife has gone so far as to threaten to turn me in for sharing "
I would already be well into the divorce process
if I were you.
"as for the press: Where do you think all those bullies went after High School?"
The ones that can read and write may have gone into journalism, but the rest are in law enforcement.
"That's the real problem that the SCO CEO is having. People are
willing to get work done without him. If it weren't Linux, it could
just as easily be Sparc Solaris at the prices Sun boxes are
going for these days. "
However, I do get the feeling that if someone
came out ant accused Sun Microsystems of "FRAUD",
there would be some serious legal repercussions already.
I am wanting somebody to give this gentleman a taste of a bitter pill. Accusing a business of
"FRAUD" is a serious matter. Perhaps a smack to
the namecaller's wallet is in order? Maybe that
will teach him not to accuse people of criminal activity without doing some research first?
I hope that there will be nothing in this standard
that disallows it's use in open source software.
Something as simple as that could end up being a
bad turning point -- what if all of a sudden, we
could not display images on linux desktops, or if
something like Mozilla was not allowed to have jpegs (just like it's not allowed to do 128 bit ssl or IM)
Just like standing up for your trademarks
is important, standing up against slander
is important too. They have an obligation
to fight this ignorance.
I want an apology from SCO on RedHat's behalf.
...on SCO's part.
A company chief exec has come out and
openly accused another company of fraud.
I hope RedHat pursues this.
Before you accuse somebody of fraud (a civil
crime in California and probably everywhere else
in the USA), you'd better have some pretty good
evidence, or have an attorney general with some
good evidence, and be ready to defend your
allegations of fraud in a courtroom.
If RedHat played their litigation card just right,
this one word could actually end up costing SCO
the farm.
I do know for certain, that if such an individual
made a groundless accusation of my company committing fraud, I would file a complaint consisting of an initial petition to cease and
desist, a restraining order to stop the individual
from making public statements about my company and I would publicly demand a retraction from any news
media that carried this story in a sympathetic vein. That's where I'd start. Then I would start
tallying the potential damages from such reckless,
willful defamation.
Yes, this could cost them.
The neat difference is that this software doesn't belong to the government.
I was naievely going on the memory of "government
of the people"
I forgot that "security concerns" replaced "freedom" as the national ideal some time in 1972,
when the hippies were either all dead or too tired
of protesting.
"Public software carries both connotations of the public domain and of government control."
Wow.
I see this as a failing of government, not
a problem with software or with language.
It's like the whole "hacker/cracker" problem.
I guess language evolves to the lowest common
denominator.
cool info! thanks. i'm going to make much
of being able to monitor that stuff!!! (to my boss) (so he'll buy us more 450's!!!)
why are "people coming into linux who demand consistency?"
Weren't they instructed to leave their preconceived notions of computing at the entrance to the bazaar?
So how can I become glibc-2.1 based?
ftp.gnu.org/pub/glibc/glibc-2.1-README says:
glibc-2.1 has been (temporarily) removed, until some political issues are worked out.
So much for freedom, openness, and widespread
availability of the software. I feel quite
locked out of the "cathedral" because of this.
Stickers? I never got any STICKERS.
And come to think of it, Linux Journal never
sent me a sticker either.
(I want stickers)
The really big download is not something that
everybody can take for granted. It is very nice
to have the physical media. The deadtree documentation that comes with RH is really good.
This appeals to some people. It does not appeal
to *me*, but then again, I have a t-3 and great
contempt for deadtree documentation... It's not
as if the linux distributions are particularly
expensive in the stores. Besides that, you'll
be able to get RH6 from cheapbytes for .
"seems to work just fine..."
/seems/ to work fine..."
Sell THAT to a suit.
"Mister Biggerstaff, I have a solution to the
problem with this critical security component...
it
I can actually see someone getting fired in this
scenario, not that they would be dumb enough to
have the conversation like that... But this is the kind of trouble we are always up against.
I didn't see anything about price for this service. I sure would like to make the
soundcard that came with my kayak-xa work.
Do you think that about all pure OO interfaces,
or just CORBA? What do you dislike most about
CORBA?
I started worrying then, a couple years back...
With Applixware (non-GPL), the RedBaron WWW browser (non-GPL and dead because of it), and
Metro-X (non-GPL and not that much better than XFree).
You are talking future tense, and I maintain that
RedHat has already crossed this line, of releasing
other-than-public-software.
I like that phrase. I'm gonna start saying "Public Software" whenever I'm tempted to say "free" or "GPL'd" or "Open Source".
Public Software. Wow. Like, no question about
who owns it. Like the highway. Or Social Security.