An honest observation labeled a flame. Karma be damned I'll add to it. Here is another similar comparison, the cowards in Afghanistan hide in caves, but never forget that the brave people that serve at NORAD are in a mountain, not a cave.
But you were trying to argue that "search" isn't a market, and that Google has thousands of competitors since thousands of people sell advertising. The point is that only a handful of people sell sponsored links in their searches; it is a distinct market.
I neither "tried" nor "argued" anything. I very successfully stated that "search" isn't a "product".
When was the last time you bought a search from Google? Answer, you never have. What version of Google search are you using? You have no idea. What is a product is the people who are searching. Just like billboard companies don't sell the billboards, they sell the number of eyes that will see the billboard. The search engine is just the carnival hawker getting people to come visit. Search is an effective way of generating traffic, so is a map service, free email hosting and free blogs. As long as it gets butts in pews as the saying goes.
Make no mistake, "search" isn't the product, and that is a fact.
They have plenty of competition, there are thousands of companies that sell advertisement. "Search" isn't a product, in exactly the same way that TV shows aren't products, the commercial slots between and during shows are. You view of reality is skewed.
Even simpler, onboard mics turn off if an external mic is connected. Just take an old pair of headphones, cut the 1/8 plug off of them and stick it into the mic jack. Easily removable too.
I doubt they intended to watch kids regularly...even "problem" kids. But perhaps if the kid was playing hooky then they might have thought it'd be okay to turn it on, find where they are and inform the parents.
The naivety of this statement is absolutely mind blowing.
This might help with the CMYK stuff in GIMP, Separate+. I'm not a printer so I don't know for sure if this is the complete solution you're looking for though.
In wine, having an app that was intended for an entirely different operating system actually work just blows my mind. i would never think to complain to the wine team that "x program won't work"
Complaining that "x program" doesn't work yesterday, is why wine works today. The difference between complaining in the F/OSS world and complaining in the windows world:
Complaining in the World of Windows = getting at best a rebate on your next purchase, and it's STILL buggy and broken until the next realease.
Complaining in the F/OSS world = getting the problem FIXED.
Um, Given that Putin was the leader *for the other side* during the past eight years, I took it to be a cheap shot at Putin. You're the one that brought US politics up. Enough already, stop whipping the dead horse.
I've got a question. Where did the parent say anything about "disappearing" anybody?
The solution is to make the bad guys "disappear," not to seek out "justice."
Why the hell would Elbonia care if some local scumbags show up dead in a gutter somewhere?
The GPL doesn't tell you what you can do with your code.
*yawn* Yes, we hear this over and over and over. Thank you for pointing this out, but please come to grips with the fact that distributing is something you DO with the code. It is in fact a way to USE the code.
Now, that statement may cause you to think that I dislike the GPL or the LGPL. I don't dislike them at all. What I strongly dislike is this pointless semantics crap.
The GPL restricts the conditions under which you may distribute modified and created code. Therefore the GPL has restrictions and is not 100% freedom.
It's just the way things are. Deal with it.
Saying, "but, that distrbution and not use," does not in anyway at all cause this to suddenly not be a restriction.
In ALL serioussness, if this trivial bit of beauracracy GENUINELY causes you to stay away, we're glad about it.
You, my fellow American, can fuck right off.
I have many friends that live internationally, and several family members. Eight years ago, was common to get three or four visits a year. Within four years, it became one a year (they came for my wedding). Since then nothing, because of crap like this.
You can speak for yourself, but don't you even begin to think you can speak for all of us.
Is it worth it? No, not in my opinion. The iPhone lacks the single most useful feature of any mobile phone, a built in LED flashlight. I still use seven year old phone because it has this. I use it way more than anything else.
What to do when it finally breaks......hack a luxeon LED into my skype phone maybe...
I know this meme with the I'm a *insert* has gotten out of hand, but this whole concept reminds me of the fact that no one ever seems to remember that linux isn't an OS. Red Hat is, Debian is, Ubuntu is... nevertheless my idea was this:
(wannabe hipster walks up): I'm a Mac.
(up steps the old middle management guy): I'm a PC.
(scene FILLS with people, 200-300, all dressed in various profession/regional/ethnic attire): *in unison* We, are Ubuntu.
Novel may have info, but people don't pay attention to info. Get their attention with the bagel, then hit them with the book, it's the only way to keep them from eating the pages.
Admittedly, I've not managed employees in a corporate environment, but I have in a call center (granted, a rather small one). In that situation it was drastically cheaper to hire two or three part timers than one full timer. Perhaps this is due to the state we were in, but the taxes we paid weren't large and part time employees didn't qualify for unemployment unless they worked more than 35 hours a week. What with income tax actually being taken from the employees wages and not an extra expense for us, it worked out like follows.
12 part employees making $9 an hour, could work a total of 30 hours each per week, equaling 360 work hours.
For every employee we had over 3 the state treasury charged us $35 per quarter ($85 for full time), minus the 12 part timers we had 1 owner and 2 managers (yes, small call center).
Since we paid no other fees at all, no medical and no taxes that weren't deduced from the employees wages, and the cost of 8 extra telephones and smart terminals was tiny ($250 or so for each, and in 4 years we had to replace one, once) the cost was roughly $170,160 a year. Hell, let's pretend we bought new phones and fancy computers every year for, say, $800 a piece. Add that in and it comes to $179,760.
Now, Had that been 6 full timers, granted we'd have bought fewer phones, but, each one of them would be getting 20 hours a week at time and a half, each working 60 hours a week.
Plus, they *do* qualify for unemployment so we'd have had to pay into that, as well provide them with some manner of health care most likely (who works 60 hours a week without benefits?).
Let's add up the basics before even bothering with unemployment, 6 people at 40 hours regular pay plus the 20 at time and a half comes to $196,560...
Wow, haven't even stated adding in state and federal fees and part timers are cheaper *after* fees for the same number of work hours by $26,000 ($16k if you figure the new machines) annually. The costs to the business for 12 even full time employees from the state/fed don't even remotely come close to costing more than $20k a year. Start adding in those fees and the costs just go up.
In most work environments, part time is cheaper by far. That's why part time exists. But, if you have a desk, and an access card, and your own email address... remember, you are not in an average work environment.
Indeed, as an employee one always must consider what the needs of the boss are. Company first. Self second. After all... it's not like there is anything else to do, and if you don't do it, someone else will.
On the other hand...
It's in most cases actually cheaper to pay two part-time employees than one full-time. For one, you are paying the same hourly rate regardless of how many checks you write. You pay for 60 hours of work, it's the same amount if you pay one person or if you pay three. Also, part-time gets no overtime, so no wage increase. Part-time also gets no benefits or stock options and such-like.
Um, no. The common usage of the phrase "pipe dream" most often was a reference to the crazy whims and idea a person would talk about after smoking opium. Freud doesn't matter to enough people to become vernacular.
That is a point certainly, but the question would be was the project they contributed to GPL at the time they contributed, and if not, did they retain the rights to their code, and if so, did they consent to their contributions being licensed in this manner. Muddy, curly and all manner of other words that describe a messy situation, but I'd bet a few lawyers out there wouldn't mind spending a few years arguing over it.
On state non-restricted access highways there is no such requirement, and the speed limit can be determined by the local municipality. It's not uncommon at all to be driving along at 55mph and see a sign that says speed limit 25. And according to most state's laws, the speed limit is in effect not at the point in the road where the sign *is* but at the point where it is visible. Yes, many small towns (population a few hundred or less) in rural America use this as their sole source of municipal income.
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Sex in a canoe? PBR, fucking close to water that's all it is. Rogue Dead Guy, now that is a beer.
An honest observation labeled a flame. Karma be damned I'll add to it. Here is another similar comparison, the cowards in Afghanistan hide in caves, but never forget that the brave people that serve at NORAD are in a mountain, not a cave.
But you were trying to argue that "search" isn't a market, and that Google has thousands of competitors since thousands of people sell advertising. The point is that only a handful of people sell sponsored links in their searches; it is a distinct market.
I neither "tried" nor "argued" anything. I very successfully stated that "search" isn't a "product".
When was the last time you bought a search from Google? Answer, you never have. What version of Google search are you using? You have no idea. What is a product is the people who are searching. Just like billboard companies don't sell the billboards, they sell the number of eyes that will see the billboard. The search engine is just the carnival hawker getting people to come visit. Search is an effective way of generating traffic, so is a map service, free email hosting and free blogs. As long as it gets butts in pews as the saying goes.
Make no mistake, "search" isn't the product, and that is a fact.
Hmm, so what you are saying is that they sell advertisement, interesting. I never thought of it that way.
They have plenty of competition, there are thousands of companies that sell advertisement. "Search" isn't a product, in exactly the same way that TV shows aren't products, the commercial slots between and during shows are. You view of reality is skewed.
Even simpler, onboard mics turn off if an external mic is connected. Just take an old pair of headphones, cut the 1/8 plug off of them and stick it into the mic jack. Easily removable too.
I doubt they intended to watch kids regularly...even "problem" kids. But perhaps if the kid was playing hooky then they might have thought it'd be okay to turn it on, find where they are and inform the parents.
The naivety of this statement is absolutely mind blowing.
A list of interesting names is not a fact in that it is formed by the creative selection of names by a person or group of people.
As soon as you created the list, it's a fact.
Close, but wrong.
As soon as you created the list, it's a fact that you created a list. The list of facts doesn't suddenly become a fact in and of itself.
I think you meant July 4th, 1776.
gtkdiff works pretty well for me.
This might help with the CMYK stuff in GIMP, Separate+. I'm not a printer so I don't know for sure if this is the complete solution you're looking for though.
In wine, having an app that was intended for an entirely different operating system actually work just blows my mind. i would never think to complain to the wine team that "x program won't work"
Complaining that "x program" doesn't work yesterday, is why wine works today. The difference between complaining in the F/OSS world and complaining in the windows world:
Complaining in the World of Windows = getting at best a rebate on your next purchase, and it's STILL buggy and broken until the next realease.
Complaining in the F/OSS world = getting the problem FIXED.
Um, Given that Putin was the leader *for the other side* during the past eight years, I took it to be a cheap shot at Putin. You're the one that brought US politics up. Enough already, stop whipping the dead horse.
None, it's copyright infringement, which is civil, not criminal.
I've got a question. Where did the parent say anything about "disappearing" anybody?
The solution is to make the bad guys "disappear," not to seek out "justice." Why the hell would Elbonia care if some local scumbags show up dead in a gutter somewhere?
Um, right there? You know, the ENTIRE post?
Both parties screw the peasants. One does it with a smile, the other with a wink.
The GPL doesn't tell you what you can do with your code.
*yawn* Yes, we hear this over and over and over. Thank you for pointing this out, but please come to grips with the fact that distributing is something you DO with the code. It is in fact a way to USE the code.
Now, that statement may cause you to think that I dislike the GPL or the LGPL. I don't dislike them at all. What I strongly dislike is this pointless semantics crap.
The GPL restricts the conditions under which you may distribute modified and created code. Therefore the GPL has restrictions and is not 100% freedom.
It's just the way things are. Deal with it.
Saying, "but, that distrbution and not use," does not in anyway at all cause this to suddenly not be a restriction.
In ALL serioussness, if this trivial bit of beauracracy GENUINELY causes you to stay away, we're glad about it.
You, my fellow American, can fuck right off.
I have many friends that live internationally, and several family members. Eight years ago, was common to get three or four visits a year. Within four years, it became one a year (they came for my wedding). Since then nothing, because of crap like this.
You can speak for yourself, but don't you even begin to think you can speak for all of us.
Is it worth it? No, not in my opinion. The iPhone lacks the single most useful feature of any mobile phone, a built in LED flashlight. I still use seven year old phone because it has this. I use it way more than anything else.
...hack a luxeon LED into my skype phone maybe...
What to do when it finally breaks...
I know this meme with the I'm a *insert* has gotten out of hand, but this whole concept reminds me of the fact that no one ever seems to remember that linux isn't an OS. Red Hat is, Debian is, Ubuntu is... nevertheless my idea was this:
(wannabe hipster walks up): I'm a Mac.
(up steps the old middle management guy): I'm a PC.
(scene FILLS with people, 200-300, all dressed in various profession/regional/ethnic attire): *in unison* We, are Ubuntu.
Novel may have info, but people don't pay attention to info. Get their attention with the bagel, then hit them with the book, it's the only way to keep them from eating the pages.
Admittedly, I've not managed employees in a corporate environment, but I have in a call center (granted, a rather small one). In that situation it was drastically cheaper to hire two or three part timers than one full timer. Perhaps this is due to the state we were in, but the taxes we paid weren't large and part time employees didn't qualify for unemployment unless they worked more than 35 hours a week. What with income tax actually being taken from the employees wages and not an extra expense for us, it worked out like follows.
12 part employees making $9 an hour, could work a total of 30 hours each per week, equaling 360 work hours.
For every employee we had over 3 the state treasury charged us $35 per quarter ($85 for full time), minus the 12 part timers we had 1 owner and 2 managers (yes, small call center).
Since we paid no other fees at all, no medical and no taxes that weren't deduced from the employees wages, and the cost of 8 extra telephones and smart terminals was tiny ($250 or so for each, and in 4 years we had to replace one, once) the cost was roughly $170,160 a year. Hell, let's pretend we bought new phones and fancy computers every year for, say, $800 a piece. Add that in and it comes to $179,760.
Now, Had that been 6 full timers, granted we'd have bought fewer phones, but, each one of them would be getting 20 hours a week at time and a half, each working 60 hours a week.
Plus, they *do* qualify for unemployment so we'd have had to pay into that, as well provide them with some manner of health care most likely (who works 60 hours a week without benefits?).
Let's add up the basics before even bothering with unemployment, 6 people at 40 hours regular pay plus the 20 at time and a half comes to $196,560...
Wow, haven't even stated adding in state and federal fees and part timers are cheaper *after* fees for the same number of work hours by $26,000 ($16k if you figure the new machines) annually. The costs to the business for 12 even full time employees from the state/fed don't even remotely come close to costing more than $20k a year. Start adding in those fees and the costs just go up.
In most work environments, part time is cheaper by far. That's why part time exists. But, if you have a desk, and an access card, and your own email address... remember, you are not in an average work environment.
Indeed, as an employee one always must consider what the needs of the boss are. Company first. Self second. After all... it's not like there is anything else to do, and if you don't do it, someone else will.
On the other hand...
It's in most cases actually cheaper to pay two part-time employees than one full-time. For one, you are paying the same hourly rate regardless of how many checks you write. You pay for 60 hours of work, it's the same amount if you pay one person or if you pay three. Also, part-time gets no overtime, so no wage increase. Part-time also gets no benefits or stock options and such-like.
Um, no. The common usage of the phrase "pipe dream" most often was a reference to the crazy whims and idea a person would talk about after smoking opium. Freud doesn't matter to enough people to become vernacular.
That is a point certainly, but the question would be was the project they contributed to GPL at the time they contributed, and if not, did they retain the rights to their code, and if so, did they consent to their contributions being licensed in this manner. Muddy, curly and all manner of other words that describe a messy situation, but I'd bet a few lawyers out there wouldn't mind spending a few years arguing over it.
On state non-restricted access highways there is no such requirement, and the speed limit can be determined by the local municipality. It's not uncommon at all to be driving along at 55mph and see a sign that says speed limit 25. And according to most state's laws, the speed limit is in effect not at the point in the road where the sign *is* but at the point where it is visible. Yes, many small towns (population a few hundred or less) in rural America use this as their sole source of municipal income.