"HTML for Dummies is open in your lap, 6 Firefox tabs are open to a different reference or Google search result, you've got a tab for the page you're working on, a window for editing your CSS, plus a window for editing the HTML of the page itself, Saturn finally aligns with Jupiter in the third house of Aries rising and lo and behold your page looks great - the boxes line up, the text is placed correctly, and the images look good - so you flip over to check it in I.E. and EVERYTHING IS FUCKING BROKEN AND YOU HAVE NO IDEA WHY!.
Like my university calculus teacher said: "First time a dirty trick, tenth time a standard technique."
We've all been there. Once you have a formula that works, whether you are talking calc or HTML/CSS, you can always come back to it.
Sometimes the best thing to do, is drop all those references, and dig through the code of one or several pages that resemble what you want to accomplish, and borrow ideas as necessary.
"Arabs are respected here? I've heard a bunch of radio show hosts calling to deport or monitor them and one guy even said "let's kill them" (he was talking about Muslims in general that time, but he saw them as the same I think)"
People will say things like that because they like to hear themselves talk. However, I doubt any of them would say something like that face-to-face with an Arab. I have heard talkshow hosts shout "nuke-em!", and I have heard the same hosts take calls from people from Middle Eastern countries, and give them a warm welcome. I think most Middle Easterners understand this sentiment, given that alot of people have, or know someone that has, lost someone in the fall of the twin towers, and what is said of this nature is harmless claptrap.
"They're not respected that well, they're still profiled in some ways by the government, and thousands got deported, the deportation rate for Arabs is up 75% since 2001, while overall deportations are down 25%. Doesn't that smack of discrimination?"
Everyone here is profiled. Doesn't matter if you fall into a "good" or "bad" category, thats the way law enforcement works. Those Arabians who are deported have expired visas. If you let that happen, you are SOL. Simple as that. It really doesn't matter who they decide go after, if a person can't support their status as a resident of the US with proper documentation, they can cry discrimination all they want, but they didn't play by the rules, and the rules are pretty clear cut.
BTW, for those who modded me Troll in my previous post, you might want to check out this article.
What lie are we talking about? WMD? Well as far as I know, technically they haven't found any, but they did find a bunker loaded with 55 gallon drums of two pesticides that when mixed together make serin gas. Its suppose its up to the person to think of what those chemicals where meant for.
BTW half a trillion dollars is nothing. When you compare to the GNP, its chewing up around one percent last time I checked. Some previous wars the US clocked in at over 100%.
The international community respects us. They may not like us, but they respect us.
Arabs are respected here. There are of course exceptions, there always are for every racial group. Abroad, only sundry ignorants will openly disrespect someone just because they are from the US.
I've come to the same conclusion. Not too long ago I put together a site with 100% valid XHTML 1.0+CSS that renders perfectly in IE 5+, Moz 1.0+, Opera 5+, Lynx (:D) and Konqueror butchers it. Also it is said that Konqueror supports PNG, but the versons I've tested don't recognise PNGs I put together with The GIMP.
Also, what bugs me about Konqueror is that it will only run scripts AFTER the page is done loading. So my usual method of putting sites together with a basic accessable-to-all index page with javascript redirect to the spiffier DHTML causes Konq to choke up.
Also, there isn't a windows version, so I have to load up Knoppix every time I want to test it. And Safari is Mac only...and I ain't buying a mac just to test layout. I've pretty much given up on testing with Konq, and if I do happen to get around it, I won't bother hacking workarounds unless the site is completely unusable.
The phone and cable companies could always start charging by the hour for internet access to specific technogies/ports/whatever (such as whatever VoIP uses). Then we'd effectively have long distance charges for every call, next door or Thimbuktu
You don't know what you are asking for guy. This is another one of those things that looks good on paper, but can't be applied as intended.
But I am certain it is clear. The regular old 9-5 insulation makes the world look a little simpler. But please try working for or starting a new tech based business, and I think you'll have a new perspective. There are people out there whose sole purpose is to enter your business and screw you over for whatever they can screw you over for. And they come after you full steam. You'd be suprised how aggressive these people are. Businesses need as much protection as they can get from people like this.
There is more than one way to skin a cat, and patents don't take them all. Limiting or eliminating proprietary innovation, the kind that creates jobs and increased quality of life, is not an acceptable loss.
Forgive me for sounding facist, but if you had your way my company and my job would be gone. That is not my opinion, that is not speculation, that is what I know.
"This wouldn't be a problem if the patent system were reasonable and you couldn't patent things like software, algorithms, or business methods."
Yeah! Lets make all software/algorithms open game so that the big companies can take all the small companies ideas, and crunch them with mega advertising dollars. Good idea, Mr. Gates!
"Examples of valid patents(ones awarded for truly innovative, and non-obvious inventions with no prior art)"
Truly innovative? Non-obvious?
Suppose I put a couple of strings together? Its been done before...but these strings can stop bullets. But they're just strings put together, thats not innovative.
Suppose I invent a wheel? Its been done before...but this wheel sticks to the road like racing tires, lasts 20 times as long, and can be produced cheaply. But its just another obvious old wheel right?
"Do not prove that the system is not horribly broken"
Maybe it could use improvement, but it isn't broken.
"or even that we are not better off without such a system altogether."
If patents were removed from law today, capitalism as we know it would disintegrate. Start-up technology business, the ones where their value only lays on their development, would instantly become worthless. Development in every field, due to fleeing investors, would cease except university labs...many of these would contract or disintegrate due to the cessation of corporate sponsorship. The medical sector would collapse into generic manufacturers who would take the brand name technology/drugs, and put the brands out of business due to low prices due to not developing new technologies or drugs. The only relatively stable sector would be manufacturing, and even that would fall to its knees after some delay.
Untold millions of jobs would be gone in a day. Given the structure of our economy, a downturn would ensue that would make the Great Depression look like a festival.
The only thing that would save the world's economic structure would be government intervention on a massive scale. In other words, communism. But thats what you anti-patent types are shooting for, right?
A lot of people out there have fantasies or delusions of grandeur of being "chosen by god", or just being "chosen". People need to feel special, and if they don't, this is a fairly popular way to compensate. Thats why people "see" things.
Patents allow the cowards to compete with the brave, and as such are socialistic claptrap.
Tell that to the wealthy investor about to seed you $2M for your idea.
Which brings up another point. Investors want to see return. "Our business plan dictates that we not patent our product. Patents are for cowards....hey where are you going??"
Now what were you saying something about socialistic claptrap?:-)
I don't like this idea. Last thing I need when I'm in some third world country is passport showing a blue screen of death. "Welcome to Congo, Mr. Thread Exception!"
It is shockingly short of evidence that it actually motivates anyone in the software industry, if you discount mere assertion like your post
That is so much bull!
I'll give you a (shamelessly plugging;) ) example. I work for a small company, Sector Medical, and we've been developing an innovative, economical way to diagnose sleep apnea (unhealthy holding breath during sleep).
Do you thing we'd spend the extreme amount of cash to develop all the fancy analysis algorithms, the computer program, database, the firmware for the device, and get that thing FDA approved without some assurance that other people can't jack our work and sell it as their own? No way!
The good idea that is now a product would have remained just an idea without the existance of patents.
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This seems like overkill. 80% of your time?
Perhaps you don't spend enough time coding cross-browser JS. I don't find it very difficult. Using templates like xbDOM makes things a breeze.
Its been done.
"HTML for Dummies is open in your lap, 6 Firefox tabs are open to a different reference or Google search result, you've got a tab for the page you're working on, a window for editing your CSS, plus a window for editing the HTML of the page itself, Saturn finally aligns with Jupiter in the third house of Aries rising and lo and behold your page looks great - the boxes line up, the text is placed correctly, and the images look good - so you flip over to check it in I.E. and EVERYTHING IS FUCKING BROKEN AND YOU HAVE NO IDEA WHY!.
Like my university calculus teacher said: "First time a dirty trick, tenth time a standard technique."
We've all been there. Once you have a formula that works, whether you are talking calc or HTML/CSS, you can always come back to it.
Sometimes the best thing to do, is drop all those references, and dig through the code of one or several pages that resemble what you want to accomplish, and borrow ideas as necessary.
I'm sure he meant "AHAH!" For those using Virdows 95+, fire up notepad and press alt-keypad6-keypad5, alt-keypad7-keypad2,etc.
"Arabs are respected here? I've heard a bunch of radio show hosts calling to deport or monitor them and one guy even said "let's kill them" (he was talking about Muslims in general that time, but he saw them as the same I think)"
People will say things like that because they like to hear themselves talk. However, I doubt any of them would say something like that face-to-face with an Arab. I have heard talkshow hosts shout "nuke-em!", and I have heard the same hosts take calls from people from Middle Eastern countries, and give them a warm welcome. I think most Middle Easterners understand this sentiment, given that alot of people have, or know someone that has, lost someone in the fall of the twin towers, and what is said of this nature is harmless claptrap.
"They're not respected that well, they're still profiled in some ways by the government, and thousands got deported, the deportation rate for Arabs is up 75% since 2001, while overall deportations are down 25%. Doesn't that smack of discrimination?"
Everyone here is profiled. Doesn't matter if you fall into a "good" or "bad" category, thats the way law enforcement works. Those Arabians who are deported have expired visas. If you let that happen, you are SOL. Simple as that. It really doesn't matter who they decide go after, if a person can't support their status as a resident of the US with proper documentation, they can cry discrimination all they want, but they didn't play by the rules, and the rules are pretty clear cut.
BTW, for those who modded me Troll in my previous post, you might want to check out this article.
They appear to be blocking slashdot referrals now, your gonna have to load it manually ;)
What lie are we talking about? WMD? Well as far as I know, technically they haven't found any, but they did find a bunker loaded with 55 gallon drums of two pesticides that when mixed together make serin gas. Its suppose its up to the person to think of what those chemicals where meant for.
BTW half a trillion dollars is nothing. When you compare to the GNP, its chewing up around one percent last time I checked. Some previous wars the US clocked in at over 100%.
The international community respects us. They may not like us, but they respect us.
Arabs are respected here. There are of course exceptions, there always are for every racial group. Abroad, only sundry ignorants will openly disrespect someone just because they are from the US.
I've come to the same conclusion. Not too long ago I put together a site with 100% valid XHTML 1.0+CSS that renders perfectly in IE 5+, Moz 1.0+, Opera 5+, Lynx (:D) and Konqueror butchers it. Also it is said that Konqueror supports PNG, but the versons I've tested don't recognise PNGs I put together with The GIMP.
Also, what bugs me about Konqueror is that it will only run scripts AFTER the page is done loading. So my usual method of putting sites together with a basic accessable-to-all index page with javascript redirect to the spiffier DHTML causes Konq to choke up.
Also, there isn't a windows version, so I have to load up Knoppix every time I want to test it. And Safari is Mac only...and I ain't buying a mac just to test layout. I've pretty much given up on testing with Konq, and if I do happen to get around it, I won't bother hacking workarounds unless the site is completely unusable.
Coca Cola Used to Contain Cocaine
Red Bull wasn't the first energy drink. Remember, Coca-Cola used to contain cocaine.
The phone and cable companies could always start charging by the hour for internet access to specific technogies/ports/whatever (such as whatever VoIP uses). Then we'd effectively have long distance charges for every call, next door or Thimbuktu
You don't know what you are asking for guy. This is another one of those things that looks good on paper, but can't be applied as intended.
But I am certain it is clear. The regular old 9-5 insulation makes the world look a little simpler. But please try working for or starting a new tech based business, and I think you'll have a new perspective. There are people out there whose sole purpose is to enter your business and screw you over for whatever they can screw you over for. And they come after you full steam. You'd be suprised how aggressive these people are. Businesses need as much protection as they can get from people like this.
There is more than one way to skin a cat, and patents don't take them all. Limiting or eliminating proprietary innovation, the kind that creates jobs and increased quality of life, is not an acceptable loss.
Forgive me for sounding facist, but if you had your way my company and my job would be gone. That is not my opinion, that is not speculation, that is what I know.
"This wouldn't be a problem if the patent system were reasonable and you couldn't patent things like software, algorithms, or business methods."
Yeah! Lets make all software/algorithms open game so that the big companies can take all the small companies ideas, and crunch them with mega advertising dollars. Good idea, Mr. Gates!
"Examples of valid patents(ones awarded for truly innovative, and non-obvious inventions with no prior art)"
Truly innovative? Non-obvious?
Suppose I put a couple of strings together? Its been done before...but these strings can stop bullets. But they're just strings put together, thats not innovative.
Suppose I invent a wheel? Its been done before...but this wheel sticks to the road like racing tires, lasts 20 times as long, and can be produced cheaply. But its just another obvious old wheel right?
"Do not prove that the system is not horribly broken"
Maybe it could use improvement, but it isn't broken.
"or even that we are not better off without such a system altogether."
If patents were removed from law today, capitalism as we know it would disintegrate. Start-up technology business, the ones where their value only lays on their development, would instantly become worthless. Development in every field, due to fleeing investors, would cease except university labs...many of these would contract or disintegrate due to the cessation of corporate sponsorship. The medical sector would collapse into generic manufacturers who would take the brand name technology/drugs, and put the brands out of business due to low prices due to not developing new technologies or drugs. The only relatively stable sector would be manufacturing, and even that would fall to its knees after some delay.
Untold millions of jobs would be gone in a day. Given the structure of our economy, a downturn would ensue that would make the Great Depression look like a festival.
The only thing that would save the world's economic structure would be government intervention on a massive scale. In other words, communism. But thats what you anti-patent types are shooting for, right?
A lot of people out there have fantasies or delusions of grandeur of being "chosen by god", or just being "chosen". People need to feel special, and if they don't, this is a fairly popular way to compensate. Thats why people "see" things.
Patents allow the cowards to compete with the brave, and as such are socialistic claptrap.
:-)
Tell that to the wealthy investor about to seed you $2M for your idea.
Which brings up another point. Investors want to see return. "Our business plan dictates that we not patent our product. Patents are for cowards....hey where are you going??"
Now what were you saying something about socialistic claptrap?
I don't like this idea. Last thing I need when I'm in some third world country is passport showing a blue screen of death. "Welcome to Congo, Mr. Thread Exception!"
I haven't checked the patent number, but I believe you are referring to CPAP ;)
It is shockingly short of evidence that it actually motivates anyone in the software industry, if you discount mere assertion like your post
;) ) example. I work for a small company, Sector Medical, and we've been developing an innovative, economical way to diagnose sleep apnea (unhealthy holding breath during sleep).
That is so much bull!
I'll give you a (shamelessly plugging
Do you thing we'd spend the extreme amount of cash to develop all the fancy analysis algorithms, the computer program, database, the firmware for the device, and get that thing FDA approved without some assurance that other people can't jack our work and sell it as their own? No way!
The good idea that is now a product would have remained just an idea without the existance of patents.
Dude. It's "losely." Get it right.
Please type "dict losely" in your Firefox address bar, and then be shamed.
"No entry found for losely."
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