well, actually, evolution as such has been proven. we see it everyday around us (though we have to look at longer periods of time to see the traits easier). any adaptation, any changes we observe in flora or fauna, be it a plant gaining stronger roots or animal getting improved resistance to some disease, it all is based on basic statements of evolution.
the absence of ubuntu/canonical is slightly weird indeed. now dell, i don't know how many of the drivers they develop internally, maybe drive by dell has pused, for example, broadcom up in the list ?
well, reactos is a separate os, i'd much better prefer wine approach of integrating the applications in my existing desktop/os.
as for the additional information, i was asked for it, provided it - and that's all what happened;) i'm ready to test, to provide any requested information, but in this case there's a shortage of developers that would be interested in the particular problem.
thanks for the links (i guess it's ok that they both are on microsoft blog, we have also opinions from ibm, sun and other company employees:) ).
reading the linked text, one is about character shading : "...The key about highlighting is that it does not affect any other formatting. Character shading (aka background-color in ODF) for instance will still be preserved when you highlight some text.... In the ODF spec I saw support for shading on text, but not highlighting which we view as two different things (I only saw mention of highlighting on tables)."
this is an interesting and valid point (even though i don't like hilighting much myself). if the odf really does not allow such a behaviour, it should have been there, if only to keep style/direct formatting separation more clear. anybody with more involvement in odf who could clarify this bit ? i checked the comments on both weblog entries, but didn't notice a definitive answer on this.
the second entry is about numbering, specifically, one used in asian writing/languages : "Now, for those familiar with Japanese numbers (and actually a whole host of other number styles) you know that it isn't always possible to represent a numbering style with just a single character . There are a couple different Kanji numbering styles that start with the same character (the difference is what you do once you get to 10). I assume that's why OpenOffice is going the route that it is. Where is this approach documented though?"
now, really, i hardly can distinguish them in writing, so i'd appreciate if somebody from asia who has been on oasis committee or has implemented odf suppor could comment on this issue:)
again, thanks for the examples, this is the first instance of exact issues pointed out in odf standard, besides the "doesn't support 'formattinglikeword95did'":)
i have no experience with music (or related software), so i'm just blindly asking whether http://www.rosegardenmusic.com/ (that i have heard is quite advanced) does anything you need ?:)
i am entusiastic about wine as well, it is really working wonders in some cases - but there are also issues that i have reported several years ago that haven't progressed any (like http://bugs.winehq.org/show_bug.cgi?id=5567). also, as noted, ms does change things, replicating them all _is_ hard.
i just wanted to note that such a quick writing and using shortcuts for direct formatting will render a document that will be a nightmare to edit later, especially if it is longer than few pages. the preferred way to work with oo.org is to use styles - and you see why if you have to reformat some aspect of a long, directly formatted document:)
i don't think there is a 3.0 beta already - most probably you have developer snapshot. in DEV_300 branch there have been 5 or so snapshots only so far, so it's all pretty new/unstable for now. using dev300_m3 myself:)
i would expect a response from somebody from ubuntu here, but my guess - they are referring to features missing in kde4 compared to kde 3:) at least i hope it's that way.
and maybe they should stop paying millions to actors. if your business model involves spending shitload of money to few people, maybe you are simply extremely idiotic at your attempts to cash in that, instead of limiting the insane expenses.
Well, a religion is something someone came up with that enables people to cooperate with their peers and give them a moral code to abide by. That's what the original religions had in mind.
i'd say control over people was the primary goal. financial gains and other benefits just resulted from that, and were gladly accepted.
and on a larger scale there's this wicked idea about plan9. as for parallel processing, i don't think it is feasible to be implemented in each app separately - more likely it would be built upon some higher level api, where app would simply tell "these things can run in parallel, this one should wait for that one to finish, and this one can start as soon as that one sends a particular signal". it would be somewhat more work, but something like that is being already implemente with kde4 and i expect it only to become more widespread.
and there are games coming out for the nostalgic people or for the "fun-not-shiny" crowd - openttd, ufoai, wesnoth, freeciv, scorched3d, liquidwar... those are damn cool games, and they do not require latest machine (well, maybe except scorched3d, and ufoai does not run on intel chipsets;) )
it's quite important to understand the issue, i think. it has been repeated in the thread several times already, but i'll try again (from my, outsider viewpoint, but i'd hope somewhat educated one:) ) - nobody is _breaking_ anything.
short interpretation by me : kernel has a variable which denotes that it is gpl only - that is, the core and all loaded modules are gpled. this shows to people trying to debug things that they can debug everything and there are no binary modules that break shit in unexplainable ways. now, if a binary module is loaded, kernel notes in the variable that it is no more gpl only and breakages can be extremely hard to debug and impossible to fix. i guess you'll agree we don't want the kernel devs to waste time on such cases.
now, ndiswrapper itself poses as gpl, thus it does not taint the kernel, but it then loads modules inside itself...
so you get a tainted kernel that does not identify as one.
and that is the only behaviour which is going to change.
if i have misunderstood things miserably, correct me, thanks:)
could you, please, tell how can one choose which data goes into rows, and which into columns ?:) i'd like to see other stats in a layout similar to your link, but can't grasp that one.
actually, it is misleading. it does not have any reasonable connection with the fact itself/article. well, unless those developers run windows 2008 server on their workstations.
well, but they are allowed to purchase items elsewhere and then bring them to their location and use ? i'm not saying that location, medium or other factors could not play a role in price amount, but price fixating on purpose...
but how legal are such price differences in light of different international treaties ? can a user from europe pruchase th $5 copy in china and use it ? i vaguely remember some talks about such price differences being shady/partially illegal, but i can't remember in what light did i read that and where.
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well, actually, evolution as such has been proven. we see it everyday around us (though we have to look at longer periods of time to see the traits easier).
any adaptation, any changes we observe in flora or fauna, be it a plant gaining stronger roots or animal getting improved resistance to some disease, it all is based on basic statements of evolution.
the absence of ubuntu/canonical is slightly weird indeed.
now dell, i don't know how many of the drivers they develop internally, maybe drive by dell has pused, for example, broadcom up in the list ?
well, reactos is a separate os, i'd much better prefer wine approach of integrating the applications in my existing desktop/os.
;)
as for the additional information, i was asked for it, provided it - and that's all what happened
i'm ready to test, to provide any requested information, but in this case there's a shortage of developers that would be interested in the particular problem.
thanks for the links (i guess it's ok that they both are on microsoft blog, we have also opinions from ibm, sun and other company employees :) ).
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:)
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reading the linked text, one is about character shading :
"...The key about highlighting is that it does not affect any other formatting. Character shading (aka background-color in ODF) for instance will still be preserved when you highlight some text.
In the ODF spec I saw support for shading on text, but not highlighting which we view as two different things (I only saw mention of highlighting on tables)."
this is an interesting and valid point (even though i don't like hilighting much myself).
if the odf really does not allow such a behaviour, it should have been there, if only to keep style/direct formatting separation more clear.
anybody with more involvement in odf who could clarify this bit ? i checked the comments on both weblog entries, but didn't notice a definitive answer on this.
the second entry is about numbering, specifically, one used in asian writing/languages :
"Now, for those familiar with Japanese numbers (and actually a whole host of other number styles) you know that it isn't always possible to represent a numbering style with just a single character . There are a couple different Kanji numbering styles that start with the same character (the difference is what you do once you get to 10). I assume that's why OpenOffice is going the route that it is.
Where is this approach documented though?"
now, really, i hardly can distinguish them in writing, so i'd appreciate if somebody from asia who has been on oasis committee or has implemented odf suppor could comment on this issue
again, thanks for the examples, this is the first instance of exact issues pointed out in odf standard, besides the "doesn't support 'formattinglikeword95did'"
i have no experience with music (or related software), so i'm just blindly asking whether http://www.rosegardenmusic.com/ (that i have heard is quite advanced) does anything you need ? :)
it kinda would help if you could point to specific things odf is not _supporting_ (no, excel long year bug does not count as a feature).
i am entusiastic about wine as well, it is really working wonders in some cases - but there are also issues that i have reported several years ago that haven't progressed any (like http://bugs.winehq.org/show_bug.cgi?id=5567).
also, as noted, ms does change things, replicating them all _is_ hard.
what about lindows or lin---s ?
oo.org is crossplatform - and there are projects where you can run it directly from the flashdrive, no need to install at all.
i just wanted to note that such a quick writing and using shortcuts for direct formatting will render a document that will be a nightmare to edit later, especially if it is longer than few pages. :)
the preferred way to work with oo.org is to use styles - and you see why if you have to reformat some aspect of a long, directly formatted document
abviously, you insert an alarm tone after every 15 slides (because having one after every slide will just make the audience go sleep elsewhere).
i don't think there is a 3.0 beta already - most probably you have developer snapshot. in DEV_300 branch there have been 5 or so snapshots only so far, so it's all pretty new/unstable for now. using dev300_m3 myself :)
i would expect a response from somebody from ubuntu here, but my guess - they are referring to features missing in kde4 compared to kde 3 :)
at least i hope it's that way.
and maybe they should stop paying millions to actors. if your business model involves spending shitload of money to few people, maybe you are simply extremely idiotic at your attempts to cash in that, instead of limiting the insane expenses.
i'd say control over people was the primary goal.
financial gains and other benefits just resulted from that, and were gladly accepted.
well, yes, i believe the thingie taking care of that is even called "threadweaver" :)
yep, here it is : http://api.kde.org/4.0-api/kdelibs-apidocs/threadweaver/html/index.html
and on a larger scale there's this wicked idea about plan9.
as for parallel processing, i don't think it is feasible to be implemented in each app separately - more likely it would be built upon some higher level api, where app would simply tell "these things can run in parallel, this one should wait for that one to finish, and this one can start as soon as that one sends a particular signal".
it would be somewhat more work, but something like that is being already implemente with kde4 and i expect it only to become more widespread.
and there are games coming out for the nostalgic people or for the "fun-not-shiny" crowd - openttd, ufoai, wesnoth, freeciv, scorched3d, liquidwar... ;) )
those are damn cool games, and they do not require latest machine (well, maybe except scorched3d, and ufoai does not run on intel chipsets
it sounds like your wife has a price.
it's quite important to understand the issue, i think. :) ) - nobody is _breaking_ anything.
:)
it has been repeated in the thread several times already, but i'll try again (from my, outsider viewpoint, but i'd hope somewhat educated one
short interpretation by me :
kernel has a variable which denotes that it is gpl only - that is, the core and all loaded modules are gpled.
this shows to people trying to debug things that they can debug everything and there are no binary modules that break shit in unexplainable ways.
now, if a binary module is loaded, kernel notes in the variable that it is no more gpl only and breakages can be extremely hard to debug and impossible to fix. i guess you'll agree we don't want the kernel devs to waste time on such cases.
now, ndiswrapper itself poses as gpl, thus it does not taint the kernel, but it then loads modules inside itself...
so you get a tainted kernel that does not identify as one.
and that is the only behaviour which is going to change.
if i have misunderstood things miserably, correct me, thanks
he should simply autoforward those mails to wikileaks
could you, please, tell how can one choose which data goes into rows, and which into columns ? :)
i'd like to see other stats in a layout similar to your link, but can't grasp that one.
actually, it is misleading. it does not have any reasonable connection with the fact itself/article.
well, unless those developers run windows 2008 server on their workstations.
well, but they are allowed to purchase items elsewhere and then bring them to their location and use ?
i'm not saying that location, medium or other factors could not play a role in price amount, but price fixating on purpose...
but how legal are such price differences in light of different international treaties ? can a user from europe pruchase th $5 copy in china and use it ?
i vaguely remember some talks about such price differences being shady/partially illegal, but i can't remember in what light did i read that and where.