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Maybe they don't want anymore showcases where they have to say words like "six hundred and ninety nine united states dollars" to the world anymore - when a press release would be nicer.
Marketing managed to confuse you with that 99 crap, it's 599 (or 600 as sane people say), not 699.
Futuristic settings appeal to more than the "I want my tech explainations!" nerds. Who'd have complained had UT just told you "Shoots Green Explosive Shit" instead of some explaination about the exact composition of said GES? I'd say many people even within the core market won't really care if you don't do much with in-depth explainations. After all, the hardcore are still gamers and they are used to gamisms like a plasma shot taking 4% off your health. Physics rules may say plasma burns directly through you but game rules say plasma does 40 damage and you have 1000 hitpoints. Physics say energy weapons are inefficient but games say energy weapons pwn.
The goal for that wasn't awesome performance but easy integration of physics into your game since the SDK comes with a physics kit. So if you were making a game and decided you need a good physics simulation for one or two scenes you won't have to go and license Havok or spend months implementing your own.
There's damn few genuine SciFi flicks then because all Hollywood-esque futuristic stuff loves doing such stuff. And the average user doesn't care about that, only the hardcore nerds. Since MMOs aim more for the average user than the hardcore nerd I'd wager they don't give a flying fuck about scientific realism. Throw a few techy-sounding words around and the average user will be happy.
'round here firecrackers are restricted as well. I think they assume there's nothing legitimate an unsupervised minor could use a lighter for. Is burning trash even legal? For roasting marshmallows you'd need a campfire and I don't think they want unsupervised minors to start those either (since someone might be stupid enough to start a camp fire in a forest and not extinguish it properly).
He never said that the janitor should earn as much as a highly skilled employee, just that he should earn enough to live a comfortable life instead of having three side jobs just to pay the rent.
The higher level player could take his armor off and wouldn't take much damage. Also a Lv. 1 troll can hit a Lv. 90 human over the head with a huge club and the human won't even flinch. A Lv. 50 dragon could bathe a Lv. 90 human in flames and the human won't be more than mildly irritated. No difference in training can explain the difference in power we're seeing there.
Final Fantasy regularly makes me question their logic but then again that's hardly an RPG...
If you replace giants with robots in SciFi noone's going to ask either. Who's going to ask "why do laser shots glow and travel that slowly?", "Why can my armor withstand a plasma hit?" or "Why is there sound in space?" except for the total übernerds? There are established conventions and as long as you obey those noone asks a question. People simply expect certain clichees these days and when they don't get them they'll wonder why they aren't there.
Interesting, from what I've heard most people saw DoW as the closest thing an RTS will ever come to 40k. Games Workshop has already made clear that they don't want a videogame to be too close to the original so people won't just grab the videogame and ignore the tabletop that brings GW much more money. I think that's the same reason we haven't seen e.g. a videogame version of Battletech (instead of FPSes, RTSes, RPGs, etc).
What reason is there that an archer cannot just put on heavy armor and pick up a sword? Training. What reason is there a sniper can't put on a power armor and pick up a chaingun? Training. Guns take training just like swords do and while you can let everyone use hanguns not every class can use more specialized weapons. You just need to know where to draw the line between weapon classes. An engineer that can handle high tech support devices should no be able to use a rocket launcher while an anti-tank trooper can't use the high-tech stuff.
Earth 2160 differentiates between reflective armor, chemical-resistent armor and conventional armor, each effective against a certain type of weapon. It also includes shields which stop energy weapons.
OTOH, a gun or laser weapon usually falls under physical damage in most RPGs. They've got lightning resistence, fire resistence, etc just like fantasy RPGs. Who says you can't have (pseudo-scientifically explained) magic and mechs in one game? Warhammer 40k has both the warp with its daemons, gods and psi spells and high tech weapons.
Not all SciFi is space based. Even among those that are, how many actually have the combat between ships as their focus? Often you see more combat on the suface of a planet or in the hallways of the ships than actual ship-to-ship warfare.
I'd say the fighter issue is just as plausible as a sword hardly leaving a scratch on a higher level player even when it penetrates the armor. RPGs use unrealistic power levels in first place, why not at least try to explain them with e.g. the number of nanobots in your blood (that can improve your organism) and instead of fixed weapons use some morph blueprints that get formed by your nanobots (so the same "weapon" in the hands of a different user wouldn't do the same damage).
It's not very easy to hit a guy who has three layers of bodyguards around him. I remember when Bush visited some small town in Germany the entire town got locked down and the policemen outnumbered the inhabitants by the factor ten.
Terrorism isn't about damage, it's about the fear the attacks spread. The reaction by the attacked that would ideally weaken its position (with the expense of a few men and some tousands of dollars Bin Laden made the US throw away trillions of dollars, destroy its international diplomatic reputation, introduce intrusive laws and throw its military power at two countries for a gain that would never cover the expenses).
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Maybe they don't want anymore showcases where they have to say words like "six hundred and ninety nine united states dollars" to the world anymore - when a press release would be nicer.
Marketing managed to confuse you with that 99 crap, it's 599 (or 600 as sane people say), not 699.
Or perhaps the GC could take that role?
They are going to randomly hide it in doorways and laugh at the look on the face of some random schmock who got teleported to Proxima Centauri.
And any dwarf in an RPG is male, sexist as it might be but the female dwarfes stay at home.
Well, there are female dwarves in Lineage (2)...
Of course there's also the Discworld explaination.
I wonder what Jack Thompson would say about that?
Futuristic settings appeal to more than the "I want my tech explainations!" nerds. Who'd have complained had UT just told you "Shoots Green Explosive Shit" instead of some explaination about the exact composition of said GES? I'd say many people even within the core market won't really care if you don't do much with in-depth explainations. After all, the hardcore are still gamers and they are used to gamisms like a plasma shot taking 4% off your health. Physics rules may say plasma burns directly through you but game rules say plasma does 40 damage and you have 1000 hitpoints. Physics say energy weapons are inefficient but games say energy weapons pwn.
The goal for that wasn't awesome performance but easy integration of physics into your game since the SDK comes with a physics kit. So if you were making a game and decided you need a good physics simulation for one or two scenes you won't have to go and license Havok or spend months implementing your own.
There's damn few genuine SciFi flicks then because all Hollywood-esque futuristic stuff loves doing such stuff. And the average user doesn't care about that, only the hardcore nerds. Since MMOs aim more for the average user than the hardcore nerd I'd wager they don't give a flying fuck about scientific realism. Throw a few techy-sounding words around and the average user will be happy.
Also smoking a bullet makes you look like a real dork.
'round here firecrackers are restricted as well. I think they assume there's nothing legitimate an unsupervised minor could use a lighter for. Is burning trash even legal? For roasting marshmallows you'd need a campfire and I don't think they want unsupervised minors to start those either (since someone might be stupid enough to start a camp fire in a forest and not extinguish it properly).
He never said that the janitor should earn as much as a highly skilled employee, just that he should earn enough to live a comfortable life instead of having three side jobs just to pay the rent.
"I, for one, welcome our new surveillance overlords!"
The higher level player could take his armor off and wouldn't take much damage. Also a Lv. 1 troll can hit a Lv. 90 human over the head with a huge club and the human won't even flinch. A Lv. 50 dragon could bathe a Lv. 90 human in flames and the human won't be more than mildly irritated. No difference in training can explain the difference in power we're seeing there.
Final Fantasy regularly makes me question their logic but then again that's hardly an RPG...
If you replace giants with robots in SciFi noone's going to ask either. Who's going to ask "why do laser shots glow and travel that slowly?", "Why can my armor withstand a plasma hit?" or "Why is there sound in space?" except for the total übernerds? There are established conventions and as long as you obey those noone asks a question. People simply expect certain clichees these days and when they don't get them they'll wonder why they aren't there.
Interesting, from what I've heard most people saw DoW as the closest thing an RTS will ever come to 40k. Games Workshop has already made clear that they don't want a videogame to be too close to the original so people won't just grab the videogame and ignore the tabletop that brings GW much more money. I think that's the same reason we haven't seen e.g. a videogame version of Battletech (instead of FPSes, RTSes, RPGs, etc).
As I understand it Nintendo said it can do physics simulation in hardware but it doesn't use a separate PPU for that.
I'd call those 85% Sony bashing "focussing on Sony".
What reason is there that an archer cannot just put on heavy armor and pick up a sword? Training. What reason is there a sniper can't put on a power armor and pick up a chaingun? Training. Guns take training just like swords do and while you can let everyone use hanguns not every class can use more specialized weapons. You just need to know where to draw the line between weapon classes. An engineer that can handle high tech support devices should no be able to use a rocket launcher while an anti-tank trooper can't use the high-tech stuff.
Explain resistance to a gun or laser weapon.
Earth 2160 differentiates between reflective armor, chemical-resistent armor and conventional armor, each effective against a certain type of weapon. It also includes shields which stop energy weapons.
OTOH, a gun or laser weapon usually falls under physical damage in most RPGs. They've got lightning resistence, fire resistence, etc just like fantasy RPGs. Who says you can't have (pseudo-scientifically explained) magic and mechs in one game? Warhammer 40k has both the warp with its daemons, gods and psi spells and high tech weapons.
They might also ask: Who made the tricorder? Who made the medpak? What models are they exactly?
Answer: You cannot identify the type of the tricorder but from the badly labelled buttons you conclude that it's a cheap chinese knockoff.
Not all SciFi is space based. Even among those that are, how many actually have the combat between ships as their focus? Often you see more combat on the suface of a planet or in the hallways of the ships than actual ship-to-ship warfare.
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I'd say the fighter issue is just as plausible as a sword hardly leaving a scratch on a higher level player even when it penetrates the armor. RPGs use unrealistic power levels in first place, why not at least try to explain them with e.g. the number of nanobots in your blood (that can improve your organism) and instead of fixed weapons use some morph blueprints that get formed by your nanobots (so the same "weapon" in the hands of a different user wouldn't do the same damage).
Which are much cooler, don't you think?
Hell, I'd be satisfied had they just given the Orks some heavy bolters.
It's not very easy to hit a guy who has three layers of bodyguards around him. I remember when Bush visited some small town in Germany the entire town got locked down and the policemen outnumbered the inhabitants by the factor ten.
Terrorism isn't about damage, it's about the fear the attacks spread. The reaction by the attacked that would ideally weaken its position (with the expense of a few men and some tousands of dollars Bin Laden made the US throw away trillions of dollars, destroy its international diplomatic reputation, introduce intrusive laws and throw its military power at two countries for a gain that would never cover the expenses).