"The more people asking for CNC services mean reduced costs:-)"
Er, no.
Supply/Demand; Invisible hand, and all that. Now if you were discussing economies of scale (making 10,000 identical iPod cases rather than one-offs), then that would be a horse of a different color and you might be correct.
But what y'all are discussing is custom one-off CNC machined iPod cases.
Nope, not gonna be cheap.
"I could then get my cover made from titanium or whatever"
"Or Whatever"? Really? Do you know what you're even asking? Titanium is a *bitch* to machine. It's far easier to get a decent finish in some other metal. Titanium has a tendency to tear at the surface rather than leave a smooth cut behhind the cutter. Stick with aluminum, or some other metal, or if you want some color, maybe a bronze or brass or something else with a luster to it.
Silver would be an improvement over Ti. (you know, that would look slick and it wouldn't be TERRIBLY expensive...)
And just who are you going to ask to have it done? CNC mills don't grow on trees, you know. You'll just have to grovel at my feet before I even consider your request, supplicant.
But you don't have to shape with machines..you could do it all by hand, with stone knives and bear skins.
-- BMO
Re:Native (North/South) Americans
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· Score: 1
"Don't forget that a lot of tree species *need* the fire to reproduce correctly. So, there is an amount of "clearing land by burning" that is actually sustainable."
But this should not be interpreted as "Native Americans Were Good For Trees", especially here in the Northeast, where there are no trees that need periodic fires (like some lodgepole pines do in the West). They basically burned to clear land around these parts so they could grow their corn.
How do you think that the English were able to have their farms once they landed in the Massachussetts Bay Colony with few draft animals? The land was _already_ cleared.
Low tech destruction of the environment goes on to this day. All it takes is a farmer with a torch to set a few hundred acres of Brazilian rain forest on fire. Some gold panners use mercury to separate gold by the side of the river, too.
Low tech isn't the paradise that _some_ groups would have us believe.
"The man, who has not yet been named, was selling modified Xbox consoles, fitted with a 200GB hard drive and 80 pre-installed games, via his website for £380."
The spin on this is about modding Xboxes. The real reason he got nicked was because he was _also_ putting 80 games on the HDs.
Do you seriously think he would have garnered any attention chipping boxes without copying scores of games? Sure he was convicted of chipping, but that's what they _wanted_. He could have easily been convicted for copyright infringement and lost a much larger piece of his hide. This wasn't the result of a Police Crackdown (TM) but an industry group seeking out Those Who Will Be A Warning To Others. If he had been simply chipping Xboxes, the police would have probably told them to piss off, but what nailed it was the copyright infringement - which went to "proving" that chipping is for naught but piracy.
-- BMO
Re:Wood Ipod (guilt)
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· Score: 2, Informative
Plastic: Made from Oil.
Metal: Mined out of the ground, heated with electricity generated from Oil, or Polluting Coal, or *heavens* NuCuLar energy, or River Blocking Dams.
Wood: Actually a non-perishable resource, if the right species are used. Maple is good.
That said, you can obsess over whatever you want, that's your right, but be aware that there's no such thing as "clean" technology. Even if you go back to making plastic out of wood pulp, that is not guilt free.
And forget about going tech-less. The Native Americans cleared land by burning, and many parts of the globe suffer from desertification and treelessness from cutting firewood and overgrazing.
That "rhesus pieces" bit was shamelessly stolen from a University of Rhode Island newspaper called "The Good 5cent Cigar", round about 1986. It referred not to monkey *parts*, but to the bits that a Rhesus monkey leaves behind...
The title of the story is unrelated to the meat of the story. It's like ordering filet mignon at a fancy restaurant from a pretentious waiter and getting a plate of Rhesus Pieces.
This is about copyright theft, not modding. The title is uninformative and flame bait. Zonk should have known better than to release this story with that title.
Watch this post get modded into oblivion. I don't care, my karma is bullet proof, bitch.
"Maybe no a 10 yo, but 13 and up? Oh yeh, who do you think Sublime's biggest customers are? 13 and 14 year old boys, that's who"
Apples. Oranges.
Porn and teenage boys is a rite of passage. One of the whole points of it is that it's illicit, and therefore "cool". The penalty for finding Dad's porn was "death" as in "he's gonna 'kill' me if he finds out". Forget about laws. Think about the beating....
MARKETING porn to teenage *anybody* is a whole different ball of wax. And that's where the line is being drawn. It's not about teens *seeking* porn, but porn being thrust (ahem) upon them.
Why do you (anonymous cowards) people have problems with this? It's already the standard in meatspace. Somehow e-space is different?
"I hate to say it but the AC is right - never, ever invite the government in because once they get their paws into the mix all they do is screw things up"
It's been illegal for decades to send X-rated snail mail advertisements through the US Mail to minors.
How is this any different? It's also not an automatic list - the email has to be submitted by the parent (or by a clueful minor who is sick of spam). Indeed, it's very limited in scope and I am sure that it will weather the inevitable court challenges.
Leaving the industry to police itself has not worked. The buttload of spam is proof of that, and there is not an end in sight. Killing spammers in painful ways would be fun, but it is illegal and the Lumber Cartel's creed forbids sinking below the level of a spammer.
Where's Bill Mattox's wooden mallet when you need it?
Spoken like a true spammer. I'm surprised that you didn't say that blocking spam is limiting your "free speach (spammer spelling)"
If you send ads, it's up to you to MAKE SURE those ads go to people that want them. Sending XXX "college amature cam" porn to 10 year olds is not targeting your market, is it?
Yes. The same Merkey that you're talking about is suing the world and its dog because...well...nobody can figure it out. He's suing Perens for having a killfile, for one.
I assume you didn't know that you that you can browse the previous days' posts by clicking on a link that says "yesterday" and then clicking on subsequent links that have the names of the days on them?
"Nope - I'm running 2.6.11. I didn't compile it. You see, there are entities called "vendors" who do all that stuff for you,"
Indeed. I used to do kernel compiles back in the SuSE 6.x days. Not anymore. These days, if you step through menuconfig, it takes a LONG time to configure everything, because there is so much of it. And since there is so much, there's a lot that you can do to break your system and wind up reaching for the rescue CD.
How do I know this? I learned the hard way. Let SuSE/Novell do it.
All those infringers of SCO intellectual property...
At $699 per cpu license, Darl McBride must be hopping with joy at the thought of all those Koreans buying SCO IP licenses. Yes indeed, you too can get one of these protection licenses. All you have to do is read the SCO IP website!
wget -v --mirror www.sco.com/scoip/
Be sure to download all available information so you can be an informed SCO IP Protection license customer! It would be a shame if you didn't!
Remember, the command again is wget -v --mirror www.sco.com/scoip/
Get your documentation and license Today!
-- BMO
"Contracts are what we use against customers" -Darl McBride
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"The more people asking for CNC services mean reduced costs :-)"
Er, no.
Supply/Demand; Invisible hand, and all that. Now if you were discussing economies of scale (making 10,000 identical iPod cases rather than one-offs), then that would be a horse of a different color and you might be correct.
But what y'all are discussing is custom one-off CNC machined iPod cases.
Nope, not gonna be cheap.
"I could then get my cover made from titanium or whatever"
"Or Whatever"? Really? Do you know what you're even asking? Titanium is a *bitch* to machine. It's far easier to get a decent finish in some other metal. Titanium has a tendency to tear at the surface rather than leave a smooth cut behhind the cutter. Stick with aluminum, or some other metal, or if you want some color, maybe a bronze or brass or something else with a luster to it.
Silver would be an improvement over Ti. (you know, that would look slick and it wouldn't be TERRIBLY expensive...)
And just who are you going to ask to have it done? CNC mills don't grow on trees, you know. You'll just have to grovel at my feet before I even consider your request, supplicant.
--
BMO
Point taken, heh.
But you don't have to shape with machines..you could do it all by hand, with stone knives and bear skins.
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BMO
"Don't forget that a lot of tree species *need* the fire to reproduce correctly. So, there is an amount of "clearing land by burning" that is actually sustainable."
But this should not be interpreted as "Native Americans Were Good For Trees", especially here in the Northeast, where there are no trees that need periodic fires (like some lodgepole pines do in the West). They basically burned to clear land around these parts so they could grow their corn.
How do you think that the English were able to have their farms once they landed in the Massachussetts Bay Colony with few draft animals? The land was _already_ cleared.
Low tech destruction of the environment goes on to this day. All it takes is a farmer with a torch to set a few hundred acres of Brazilian rain forest on fire. Some gold panners use mercury to separate gold by the side of the river, too.
Low tech isn't the paradise that _some_ groups would have us believe.
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BMO
From TFA:
"The man, who has not yet been named, was selling modified Xbox consoles, fitted with a 200GB hard drive and 80 pre-installed games, via his website for £380."
The spin on this is about modding Xboxes. The real reason he got nicked was because he was _also_ putting 80 games on the HDs.
Do you seriously think he would have garnered any attention chipping boxes without copying scores of games? Sure he was convicted of chipping, but that's what they _wanted_. He could have easily been convicted for copyright infringement and lost a much larger piece of his hide. This wasn't the result of a Police Crackdown (TM) but an industry group seeking out Those Who Will Be A Warning To Others. If he had been simply chipping Xboxes, the police would have probably told them to piss off, but what nailed it was the copyright infringement - which went to "proving" that chipping is for naught but piracy.
--
BMO
Plastic: Made from Oil.
Metal: Mined out of the ground, heated with electricity generated from Oil, or Polluting Coal, or *heavens* NuCuLar energy, or River Blocking Dams.
Wood: Actually a non-perishable resource, if the right species are used. Maple is good.
That said, you can obsess over whatever you want, that's your right, but be aware that there's no such thing as "clean" technology. Even if you go back to making plastic out of wood pulp, that is not guilt free.
And forget about going tech-less. The Native Americans cleared land by burning, and many parts of the globe suffer from desertification and treelessness from cutting firewood and overgrazing.
Hopeless, isn't it?
--
BMO
"Yea, I hate it when they give me monkey bits."
That "rhesus pieces" bit was shamelessly stolen from a University of Rhode Island newspaper called "The Good 5cent Cigar", round about 1986. It referred not to monkey *parts*, but to the bits that a Rhesus monkey leaves behind...
--
BMO - Old Fart.
The title of the story is unrelated to the meat of the story. It's like ordering filet mignon at a fancy restaurant from a pretentious waiter and getting a plate of Rhesus Pieces.
This is about copyright theft, not modding. The title is uninformative and flame bait. Zonk should have known better than to release this story with that title.
Watch this post get modded into oblivion. I don't care, my karma is bullet proof, bitch.
--
BMO
I wonder what Nissan would say about his rendition of "Sentra" (same page). It's clearly an invented word, and not found in the dictionary.
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BMO
"It pays MORE money than you will ever dream of making in a real so called job."
Yeah, that's what Sanford Wallace used to say.
How come if it's such a great job, you have to hide behind an anonymous posting? Eh?
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BMO
"Spoken like a true bile-tasting spam nazi. OP makes great points. STFU and pull your head out of your ass."
I seem to have touched a nerve.
How's it feel to be a spammer *criminal*?
Funny how you don't come out from your anonymous posting. Coward.
--
BMO - Lumber Cartel (TINLC) number #2501
"Maybe no a 10 yo, but 13 and up? Oh yeh, who do you think Sublime's biggest customers are? 13 and 14 year old boys, that's who"
Apples. Oranges.
Porn and teenage boys is a rite of passage. One of the whole points of it is that it's illicit, and therefore "cool". The penalty for finding Dad's porn was "death" as in "he's gonna 'kill' me if he finds out". Forget about laws. Think about the beating....
MARKETING porn to teenage *anybody* is a whole different ball of wax. And that's where the line is being drawn. It's not about teens *seeking* porn, but porn being thrust (ahem) upon them.
Why do you (anonymous cowards) people have problems with this? It's already the standard in meatspace. Somehow e-space is different?
--
BMO
"I hate to say it but the AC is right - never, ever invite the government in because once they get their paws into the mix all they do is screw things up"
It's been illegal for decades to send X-rated snail mail advertisements through the US Mail to minors.
How is this any different? It's also not an automatic list - the email has to be submitted by the parent (or by a clueful minor who is sick of spam). Indeed, it's very limited in scope and I am sure that it will weather the inevitable court challenges.
Leaving the industry to police itself has not worked. The buttload of spam is proof of that, and there is not an end in sight. Killing spammers in painful ways would be fun, but it is illegal and the Lumber Cartel's creed forbids sinking below the level of a spammer.
Where's Bill Mattox's wooden mallet when you need it?
--
BMO
Spoken like a true spammer. I'm surprised that you didn't say that blocking spam is limiting your "free speach (spammer spelling)"
If you send ads, it's up to you to MAKE SURE those ads go to people that want them. Sending XXX "college amature cam" porn to 10 year olds is not targeting your market, is it?
STFU and get a real job.
--
BMO
Yes. The same Merkey that you're talking about is suing the world and its dog because ...well...nobody can figure it out. He's suing Perens for having a killfile, for one.
Go Figure.
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BMO
So I never used Y! chat. Ever. I clicked on GAIM's chatroom option...
And within 5 minutes, I got spam.
Mein Gott. People put up with this shit?
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BMO
What I really need is a driver that uses all the buttons on my Logitech mouse!
It's got (counts) 10 microswitches.
No, this is not a troll. I do want to use all the buttons!
GIMME MY BUTTONS!
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BMO
ALL OF THE SENIOR EDITORS OF LINUXWORLD HAVE RESIGNED!
Nobody can stand Fuat any longer. The ones who can go do something else have decided to do just that.
The sooner IDG gets its trademark back from Sys-Con the better.
Sys-Con - System of a Con.
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BMO
It's been down since somewhere around 2am.
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BMO
Well, I was interested in making a joke too, until the moderators took my sense-a-uma away.
I can't mod you +1 funny, but consider it in spirit.
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BMO
I assume you didn't know that you that you can browse the previous days' posts by clicking on a link that says "yesterday" and then clicking on subsequent links that have the names of the days on them?
How hard is that?
Funny, I never seem to miss any articles.
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BMO
That's OK, I got modded into oblivion with the Dupe of Url post.
It seems like people can't take any criticism at all. Typical.
It's too bad that we can't mod the articles themselves. Watch this post, it will be modded into oblivion too. Idiots.
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BMO
http://slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=05/05/06/133233 &tid=146&tid=109
Dupe
Dupe
Dupe
Dupe of url
Dupe
Dupe
Dupe of url
Dupe
Dupe
Dupe of url!
"Nope - I'm running 2.6.11. I didn't compile it. You see, there are entities called "vendors" who do all that stuff for you,"
Indeed. I used to do kernel compiles back in the SuSE 6.x days. Not anymore. These days, if you step through menuconfig, it takes a LONG time to configure everything, because there is so much of it. And since there is so much, there's a lot that you can do to break your system and wind up reaching for the rescue CD.
How do I know this? I learned the hard way. Let SuSE/Novell do it.
--
BMO
All those infringers of SCO intellectual property...
At $699 per cpu license, Darl McBride must be hopping with joy at the thought of all those Koreans buying SCO IP licenses. Yes indeed, you too can get one of these protection licenses. All you have to do is read the SCO IP website!
wget -v --mirror www.sco.com/scoip/
Be sure to download all available information so you can be an informed SCO IP Protection license customer! It would be a shame if you didn't!
Remember, the command again is wget -v --mirror www.sco.com/scoip/
Get your documentation and license Today!
--
BMO
"Contracts are what we use against customers" -Darl McBride
Is up to date, even considering the head honcho's health problems.
There's no excuse for no Debian stable releases since 2002.
Maybe Bruce should base UserLinux on that.
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BMO