Well I was hoping you would catch the drift that I wasn't interested in taking this further... but you had to go and call me an idiot.
Clearly we disagree on this stuff. Let's just leave it.
However, to take a parting shot at you: You claim I have no clue, but I would bet that you have no experience in racing these cars or even getting close to one of them. In fact, I'd be willing to bet that all of your opinions on the subject matter comes from reading articles and watching races which, incidentally, is the same exact place that my opinions come from.
Formula 1 drivers compete in a sport where stamina, phenomonal hand-eye cooridination, phenomonal reflexes, among other things is absolutely required. To say they're not athletes is just plain retarded.
You missed one part of what they do: let the car do all the work.
F1 drivers do a lot more physically than you can actually imagine. Again, steering a car at the speeds they do with no power steering isn't as easy as driving your Toyota down the freeway. If you notice, the drivers are also constantly working with, and fighting with the car to keep it on edge.
Well at least now we've thrown out that stupid ~4gs argument. So now it comes down to raw strength of turning a wheel and pushing the gas. Great, so now you're claiming that these "athletes" have the raw ability to turn a wheel. Is it harder than driving a car down a freeway? Absolutely. Does it require more talent (in reflexes and knowledge) than parallel parking? Sure. But to say it's a sport, simply because their only physical contribution is turning a wheel, that's ridiculous.
And I didn't turn the danger of being a driver into the sole basis of ahtletism. I was simply trying to wade through your many bullshit arguments about why these guys are athletes.
Ok, so are the engineers athletes? (Obviously/. crowd would love to see this be true.) Or is the driver the only athelete?
Is business a team sport? You're competing with other companies. You work in a team. You try to outpreform the other teams by doing something better, faster or cheaper.
I think you missed my point. I didn't say that a guy with a joystick would undergo the same stresses as a guy behind the wheel. Obviously, getting carried at intense speeds, thrown around curves and breaking is physically demanding.
However, a guy with a joystick COULD control the car. Given the right equipment, he could have the same exact setup as a guy behind the wheel (a video game being the most crude setup). Compare that to say, a football player who could not have a virtual setup and have it not be physical. A football player, assuming you could build such a series of controls, would still have to jump, run and catch in his sim.
In short, my problem with F1 is that the drivers don't physically do anything. All they have to do is withstand grueling conditions. There are plenty of other positions that require people to withstand grueling conditions, and no one calls them athletes.
flewp wrote: Race car drivers also put their lives on the line each time they step out on the track
If this is a legitimate argument, aren't police officers, firemen and countless other jobs dangerous as well?
To paraphrase what I said above (in a different comment thread): They are not atheletes because a guy with a joystick can do the same thing on the sidelines.
Assuming no delay between the joystick and the driverseat, a few correctly mounted cameras allows a guy on the sidelines to do the same thing. My question to you is then: When do we consider people playing video games atheletes.
F1 is not just a sport that happens every other Sunday, it's a 365-day long sport, with engineers working on the mechanics, and the teams constantly testing various setups.
Right, because football players certainly don't train in the offseason or practice when they're not in games. I mean none of these guys actually play except on Sundays, right? No, no, no. In fact, the athletes that you see playing in the MLB, NBA and NFL (also, if the NHL is playing) as well as other pro leagues around the world are the most serious atheletes in the world. There is a reason they get paid millions: 1) They have extraordinary natural talent 2) they train almost nonstop, during the seasons and also in the offseasons.
Just because F1 operates 365 days a year does not make it more respectable than real sports. The truth of the matter is that NASCAR may be more of a sport than F1. I say this because at least in NASCAR, it truly comes down to the drivers, as the cars are more or less identical. In F1, as I understand it, you've got teams with enormous budgets that buy the best technology to make their "atheletes" better. All of this being said, I don't consider any car racing events to be sports. The simple reason is that a guy with a joystick could be doing the same thing on the sidelines.
I hear that ~4 gs argument all the damn time. Quite frankly, I'm sick of it. Because a human endures 4gs does not make him an athelete! Is it impressive? Yeah, but he's not an athelete.
When do we start considering astronauts atheletes? They endure gs, they also have finely tuned motor skills and they're in "competion" (against the Russians etc.).
Based on the stuff I'm seeing on DSL Reports (linked off of the main story), it appears the casing they install on the side of the house has a battery. Assuming this battery would last for at least a few hours, it is possible that your phone would continue to work, even if the power it out (like you do currently).
Much of your platform involves removing troops and money from foreign lands. Although many people agree that we should focus on home before abroad, how do you respond to critics that say removing support from the UN, the World Bank etc. will cause the global economy to collapse?
I agree.
If you hadn't seen the original, these minor edits would not even make you think twice. All the edits do is take advantage of some new technology, they don't change anything.
That being said, the new Episodes are pretty bad. To be fair, they're on par with other crappy movies out today.
This was exactly what I was thinking when I clicked on the article. Granted, I ended up getting load of crap from that waste of time. I would like to also see:
6) I'm in a rush.
I have frequently considered installing a marquee type thing on the back of my car for this purpose. I drive a lot (100+ miles a day) can anyone tell?
I think what you're missing is that the Media companies today are, in many ways, attempting to work together, to make sure it stays the same. They all do business the same way, buying studios and producing half-assed cheap reality television. Sure they attack each other for ratings, but ABC is not exactly trembling with fear that NBC will bankrupt it, and the same for NBC to ABC.
However, the car companies are not having this problem. The automotive industry creates new ideas all the time, incorporates new technologies into it's products and has to stay innovative to compete. Networks don't have to stay innovative.
Well the truth is that FTTP does about 625 Mbps but VZ is splitting it over 10 homes or so. As a result, everyone can get up to 60 Mbps (when they need to roll out that service). In New York where there are large scale apartment buildings, expect a ton of fiber to be laid to the building, to keep the ratio correct. Verizon's dream here is to do television offerings, not match current cable bandwidth. If they want to stream HD Feeds (which they do) then they're going to need at least 10 Mbps to that one TV, plus whatever you need for internet. If I lived in a metropolis, I would be itching for this stuff. And with any luck, I'll be moving in a year to Boston.
Verizon had to roll this out in "nowhere" Keller TX because of regulation laws. They wanted their first roll out to be out of their landline footprint so they wouldn't get tangled up with the FCC too much. However, Hopkinton MA (eastern MA - home of EMC) is one of the top 10 towns on the list (also, in VZ Footprint), and so is most of So Cal. Expect it in the 150 biggest markets in 8~12 months, or so says the buzz.
So I checked google for the meaning of Sesqui... whatever. Here's the result.
Now, I don't know whats going to happen when you click the link, but for me, there was no definition but there was an ad word for "Cheap dental insurance." Anyhow, the ad word looked like the definition and I was throughly confused.
The biggest concern that I see is that competition will not be as strong as it should be. You're stuck with your cable provider. There needs to be a way that several competing VOD services can market to the consumers of a single cable service.
Well, Verizon and other Telcos are doing FTTP (Fiber to the Premises) and you better believe they're all going to do video feeds with those, so expect some much needed comeptition in this arena. Telcos are pissed that Cable was first (in most places) with high speed internet, and now even more pissed that cable is allowed to do phones -- it's going to be a battle.
I'm pretty sure that you can hop on competitors towers (roam feature) as long as you're using CDMA, which most US Phones are. Granted, if you're on some crappy PCS network -- well, you're SOL.
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Clearly we disagree on this stuff. Let's just leave it.
However, to take a parting shot at you: You claim I have no clue, but I would bet that you have no experience in racing these cars or even getting close to one of them. In fact, I'd be willing to bet that all of your opinions on the subject matter comes from reading articles and watching races which, incidentally, is the same exact place that my opinions come from.
You missed one part of what they do: let the car do all the work.
Well at least now we've thrown out that stupid ~4gs argument. So now it comes down to raw strength of turning a wheel and pushing the gas. Great, so now you're claiming that these "athletes" have the raw ability to turn a wheel. Is it harder than driving a car down a freeway? Absolutely. Does it require more talent (in reflexes and knowledge) than parallel parking? Sure. But to say it's a sport, simply because their only physical contribution is turning a wheel, that's ridiculous.
And I didn't turn the danger of being a driver into the sole basis of ahtletism. I was simply trying to wade through your many bullshit arguments about why these guys are athletes.
Is business a team sport? You're competing with other companies. You work in a team. You try to outpreform the other teams by doing something better, faster or cheaper.
However, a guy with a joystick COULD control the car. Given the right equipment, he could have the same exact setup as a guy behind the wheel (a video game being the most crude setup). Compare that to say, a football player who could not have a virtual setup and have it not be physical. A football player, assuming you could build such a series of controls, would still have to jump, run and catch in his sim.
In short, my problem with F1 is that the drivers don't physically do anything. All they have to do is withstand grueling conditions. There are plenty of other positions that require people to withstand grueling conditions, and no one calls them athletes.
flewp wrote: Race car drivers also put their lives on the line each time they step out on the track
If this is a legitimate argument, aren't police officers, firemen and countless other jobs dangerous as well?
Assuming no delay between the joystick and the driverseat, a few correctly mounted cameras allows a guy on the sidelines to do the same thing. My question to you is then: When do we consider people playing video games atheletes.
Right, because football players certainly don't train in the offseason or practice when they're not in games. I mean none of these guys actually play except on Sundays, right? No, no, no. In fact, the athletes that you see playing in the MLB, NBA and NFL (also, if the NHL is playing) as well as other pro leagues around the world are the most serious atheletes in the world. There is a reason they get paid millions: 1) They have extraordinary natural talent 2) they train almost nonstop, during the seasons and also in the offseasons.
Just because F1 operates 365 days a year does not make it more respectable than real sports. The truth of the matter is that NASCAR may be more of a sport than F1. I say this because at least in NASCAR, it truly comes down to the drivers, as the cars are more or less identical. In F1, as I understand it, you've got teams with enormous budgets that buy the best technology to make their "atheletes" better. All of this being said, I don't consider any car racing events to be sports. The simple reason is that a guy with a joystick could be doing the same thing on the sidelines.
When do we start considering astronauts atheletes? They endure gs, they also have finely tuned motor skills and they're in "competion" (against the Russians etc.).
Based on the stuff I'm seeing on DSL Reports (linked off of the main story), it appears the casing they install on the side of the house has a battery. Assuming this battery would last for at least a few hours, it is possible that your phone would continue to work, even if the power it out (like you do currently).
I just submitted this story to /., I'm assuming it doesn't get listed.
Verizon and Motorola announce deal
Basically, they are using Motorola set top boxes to deliver video feeds off of their Fiber. I would expect it soon.
Much of your platform involves removing troops and money from foreign lands. Although many people agree that we should focus on home before abroad, how do you respond to critics that say removing support from the UN, the World Bank etc. will cause the global economy to collapse?
I agree. If you hadn't seen the original, these minor edits would not even make you think twice. All the edits do is take advantage of some new technology, they don't change anything. That being said, the new Episodes are pretty bad. To be fair, they're on par with other crappy movies out today.
This was exactly what I was thinking when I clicked on the article. Granted, I ended up getting load of crap from that waste of time. I would like to also see:
6) I'm in a rush.
I have frequently considered installing a marquee type thing on the back of my car for this purpose. I drive a lot (100+ miles a day) can anyone tell?
I think what you're missing is that the Media companies today are, in many ways, attempting to work together, to make sure it stays the same. They all do business the same way, buying studios and producing half-assed cheap reality television. Sure they attack each other for ratings, but ABC is not exactly trembling with fear that NBC will bankrupt it, and the same for NBC to ABC.
However, the car companies are not having this problem. The automotive industry creates new ideas all the time, incorporates new technologies into it's products and has to stay innovative to compete. Networks don't have to stay innovative.
I can't reveal that information (seriously).
Well the truth is that FTTP does about 625 Mbps but VZ is splitting it over 10 homes or so. As a result, everyone can get up to 60 Mbps (when they need to roll out that service). In New York where there are large scale apartment buildings, expect a ton of fiber to be laid to the building, to keep the ratio correct. Verizon's dream here is to do television offerings, not match current cable bandwidth. If they want to stream HD Feeds (which they do) then they're going to need at least 10 Mbps to that one TV, plus whatever you need for internet. If I lived in a metropolis, I would be itching for this stuff. And with any luck, I'll be moving in a year to Boston.
Verizon had to roll this out in "nowhere" Keller TX because of regulation laws. They wanted their first roll out to be out of their landline footprint so they wouldn't get tangled up with the FCC too much. However, Hopkinton MA (eastern MA - home of EMC) is one of the top 10 towns on the list (also, in VZ Footprint), and so is most of So Cal. Expect it in the 150 biggest markets in 8~12 months, or so says the buzz.
Actually, it's 2 Mbps up for the 15 Mbps and 5 Mbps up for the 30 Mbps. According to this article.
Maybe you could use something like USB Keys for easier authentication? I didn't think it got any easier than a username and a password.
So I checked google for the meaning of Sesqui... whatever. Here's the result. Now, I don't know whats going to happen when you click the link, but for me, there was no definition but there was an ad word for "Cheap dental insurance." Anyhow, the ad word looked like the definition and I was throughly confused.
The biggest concern that I see is that competition will not be as strong as it should be. You're stuck with your cable provider. There needs to be a way that several competing VOD services can market to the consumers of a single cable service.
Well, Verizon and other Telcos are doing FTTP (Fiber to the Premises) and you better believe they're all going to do video feeds with those, so expect some much needed comeptition in this arena. Telcos are pissed that Cable was first (in most places) with high speed internet, and now even more pissed that cable is allowed to do phones -- it's going to be a battle.
If it was Space Ghost Coast to Coast (the Adult Swim late night cartoon) -- we would have a much better world.
They have won in 1999, 2000, 2002, 2003. So I guess this is a good place to start.
I'm pretty sure that you can hop on competitors towers (roam feature) as long as you're using CDMA, which most US Phones are. Granted, if you're on some crappy PCS network -- well, you're SOL.