It really shouldn't matter what toolset is specified, once the basic skills are acquired, migrating to an unfamiliar toolset should be trivial.
You'd think so. If only the people on the other end of the hiring spectrum understood this...
“But this candidate doesn't have at least five years experience in ATLAS... er... ASP NET AJAX and an MS in Computer Science! Every senior level manager knows that's different from regular AJAX! We can't afford all of the extra training! We need candidates with this exact skillset!”
When you have non-technical people posting poorly-interpreted requirements and screening resumes before the techinical people get a chance to look at them, you have this problem.
There's a reason your parent post is modded 5 and you're still modded 1.
You claim to not know PHP, yet you also claim to know it would be a step backward. I've seen much more ASP-WTFery than Perl- or PHP-, too, so how do you explain that?
As long as proper design is a consideration, Perl and PHP are perfectly fine languages to use as Web development tools. You bash these languages, yet you provide nothing to back up your negativity. People who do this are usually called “Trolls” 'round these here parts.
A few years ago, I used to occasionally go to a McDonald's in the Woburn Mall. This particular location had a couple of ordering kiosks that would let you customize your order and pay directly at the kiosk with a credit/debit card.
However, more often than not, the machines were either frozen, off, or being worked on. They were running Windows 9x (95, if I remember correctly). The system might have been an enclosed network with a central server doing all of the actual credit card processing, but I'm pretty sure each machine got its menus (breakfast/lunch) every morning directly from a server over the Internet.
Amusingly, this McDonald's is in the same mall as a TJMaxx. I wonder if they had the same kiosk provider...
Several years ago, I worked on some RSView HMI apps (SE and ME) that were/are used to control mobile x-ray systems. Not only did Windows crash, but the RSView SE virtual machine that ran the app crashed, and frequently. If the system's operator pressed "STOP" on the touch screen and the system didn't actually stop, people could potentially get sprayed with deadly amounts of x-ray radiation.
Yes, of course we had hard-wired e-stops, but the delays between pressing the stop button on the screen, realizing it was frozen, and pressing the physical e-stop could have been long enough to really ruin someone's day.
I also implemented a heartbeat monitor in the PLC that the HMI app would constantly reset back to 0. If the heartbeat reached a certain threshold, such as 5, then the HMI was unresponsive for five seconds. The PLC assumed the worst, so it would halt everything. That ended up happening a LOT.
Personally, I would not call the version of RSView SE I used “mature”. Even Rockwell tech support would more or less bad-mouth it when I called them about some sort of unexpected behavior or limitation. RSView ME--despite its ominous prefix--actually wasn't all that bad.
All that said, no major complaints on the PLC end of the spectrum (RSLogix).
I believe the GP was asking the question you quoted of people who believe humans have souls. In this light, this scenario is similar to the harvesting of stem cells from manbearpig embryos (do these embryos count as human [and have a soul]?).
I've never had any issues with Konqueror. It's also lighting fast on my aging laptop compared to Firefox, which crawls and slows everything else down, too.
Odd... I just joined the group, and according to the full member list, I'm being counted three times. I wonder if this is a bug with their membership system or if everyone sees themselves three times and it's just a bug with the display code.
So then we'll just change what's normal for an SSH connection, or we'll break up the P2P packets, or we'll pad everything, to make all communications indistinguishable.
I hate heat and drought anyway - what a bloody pain it is. If you are a masochistic person who actually likes heat I suggest you move to a warmer planet such as Mercury or Venus.
That's interesting. I've never heard the insurance argument before. The drive behind the bans around here has always been the concern for public health. The idea has always been that not all workers/patrons are consensual smokers, so they shouldn't be forced to smoke by those who do. AFAIK, this is the only argument that was used for the MA workplace law. I've never heard money brought up as part of the reasoning around here. See also the Bangor, ME in-cars-with-children smoking ban, which has nothing to do with money.
“... I hear the voices, and I read the front page, and I know the speculation, but I'm The Decider and I decide what is best...” (full context) Ring any bells?
I don't know where you live, but where I live (Massachusetts), this hasn't happened with cigarettes. Sure, cigarettes are taxed a lot, but they are not banned altogether (although there are anti-smoking laws relating to the workplace).
On top of that, your argument is just flawed. One person eating the occasional junk food item affects nobody but that person. One person smoking cigarettes around others affects the health of everybody in the immediate area. Continuous exposure to second-hand smoke can be harmful to one's health, even fatal. I don't care what you say, you watching me drink a bottle of Mountain Dew or eat a Big Mac isn't going to give you a heart attack.
I purposefully avoid going into restaurants, for example, if I see people smoking outside of them. It's not enough that smoking is banned inside (there is no such thing as a non-smoking section). The establishment should be making sure patrons don't have to pass through thick clouds of cigarette smoke and jeopardize their health just to enter the building.
If there were a way for people to smoke without polluting the air for everyone around them, I really wouldn't give a rat's ass when/where/why they did it. (I'm not for the complete banning of cigarettes. Actually, I think all complete prohibitions should be repealed.) However, that's not the case, and no matter how entitled a smoker may feel, (s)he has no right to pollute my lungs with her/his filth. Just like it's illegal to wave a weapon around in the air out in public, I feel it should be illegal to smoke around people in public that aren't consenting to smoke with you. I also feel justified when I punch someone in the face when they blow smoke in mine. Their face will fully recover after the bruise goes away, whereas my body will take much longer to get rid of cigarette exhaust. (On top of that, a punch to the face is neither carcinogenic nor cumulative.)
Slashdot Mirror
Yeah, for a few minutes, I was wondering where the Slashdot article on Google Archaeology (beta) went.
Apparently so do these people.
It really shouldn't matter what toolset is specified, once the basic skills are acquired, migrating to an unfamiliar toolset should be trivial.
You'd think so. If only the people on the other end of the hiring spectrum understood this...
“But this candidate doesn't have at least five years experience in ATLAS... er... ASP NET AJAX and an MS in Computer Science! Every senior level manager knows that's different from regular AJAX! We can't afford all of the extra training! We need candidates with this exact skillset!”
When you have non-technical people posting poorly-interpreted requirements and screening resumes before the techinical people get a chance to look at them, you have this problem.
There's a reason your parent post is modded 5 and you're still modded 1.
You claim to not know PHP, yet you also claim to know it would be a step backward. I've seen much more ASP-WTFery than Perl- or PHP-, too, so how do you explain that?
As long as proper design is a consideration, Perl and PHP are perfectly fine languages to use as Web development tools. You bash these languages, yet you provide nothing to back up your negativity. People who do this are usually called “Trolls” 'round these here parts.
Excuse me, but REAL programmers use butterflies.
In fact, forget the search service!
I don't get it. Was that a joke somehow?
Judging from his signature, I would say “yes”.
A few years ago, I used to occasionally go to a McDonald's in the Woburn Mall. This particular location had a couple of ordering kiosks that would let you customize your order and pay directly at the kiosk with a credit/debit card.
However, more often than not, the machines were either frozen, off, or being worked on. They were running Windows 9x (95, if I remember correctly). The system might have been an enclosed network with a central server doing all of the actual credit card processing, but I'm pretty sure each machine got its menus (breakfast/lunch) every morning directly from a server over the Internet.
Amusingly, this McDonald's is in the same mall as a TJMaxx. I wonder if they had the same kiosk provider...
Several years ago, I worked on some RSView HMI apps (SE and ME) that were/are used to control mobile x-ray systems. Not only did Windows crash, but the RSView SE virtual machine that ran the app crashed, and frequently. If the system's operator pressed "STOP" on the touch screen and the system didn't actually stop, people could potentially get sprayed with deadly amounts of x-ray radiation.
Yes, of course we had hard-wired e-stops, but the delays between pressing the stop button on the screen, realizing it was frozen, and pressing the physical e-stop could have been long enough to really ruin someone's day.
I also implemented a heartbeat monitor in the PLC that the HMI app would constantly reset back to 0. If the heartbeat reached a certain threshold, such as 5, then the HMI was unresponsive for five seconds. The PLC assumed the worst, so it would halt everything. That ended up happening a LOT.
Personally, I would not call the version of RSView SE I used “mature”. Even Rockwell tech support would more or less bad-mouth it when I called them about some sort of unexpected behavior or limitation. RSView ME--despite its ominous prefix--actually wasn't all that bad.
All that said, no major complaints on the PLC end of the spectrum (RSLogix).
We get our hackles raised over the idea of geeks choosing to pay more for XP when they have a less expensive option that comes with a “geekier” OS.
I believe the GP was asking the question you quoted of people who believe humans have souls. In this light, this scenario is similar to the harvesting of stem cells from manbearpig embryos (do these embryos count as human [and have a soul]?).
[insert witty Pamela Anderson joke here]
According to http://www.clamwin.com/content/view/35/27/, on-access functionality is going to be in the next major version.
Don't forget Firefox CE. Before you know it, someone will port it to the Xbox.
I've never had any issues with Konqueror. It's also lighting fast on my aging laptop compared to Firefox, which crawls and slows everything else down, too.
Did I call it or what?
Odd... I just joined the group, and according to the full member list, I'm being counted three times. I wonder if this is a bug with their membership system or if everyone sees themselves three times and it's just a bug with the display code.
So then we'll just change what's normal for an SSH connection, or we'll break up the P2P packets, or we'll pad everything, to make all communications indistinguishable.
The only way to fix it is to ban politicians from manipulating the economy. Then companies will then have no interest in them.
And how would you suggest we go about doing that?
The ice was already displacing the water, because the ice was floating on the water. Put some ice in a glass of water sometime and let the ice melt.
It's Greenland and Antarctica that we have to worry about with regard to rising sea levels.
I hate heat and drought anyway - what a bloody pain it is. If you are a masochistic person who actually likes heat I suggest you move to a warmer planet such as Mercury or Venus.
Is that before or after health insurance? Because that's about what I pay for health insurance per month, and the cost is going up soon.
That's interesting. I've never heard the insurance argument before. The drive behind the bans around here has always been the concern for public health. The idea has always been that not all workers/patrons are consensual smokers, so they shouldn't be forced to smoke by those who do. AFAIK, this is the only argument that was used for the MA workplace law. I've never heard money brought up as part of the reasoning around here. See also the Bangor, ME in-cars-with-children smoking ban, which has nothing to do with money.
A summary of the statewide workplace ban: http://www.mass.gov/Eeohhs2/docs/dph/tobacco_control/smoke_free_workplace_law_summary.pdf
More information on the ban: http://www.mass.gov/?pageID=eohhs2terminal&L=4&L0=Home&L1=Provider&L2=Guidance+for+Businesses&L3=Smoke-free+Workplace&sid=Eeohhs2&b=terminalcontent&f=dph_tobacco_control_workplace_law&csid=Eeohhs2
You think he actually listens to his advisers?
“... I hear the voices, and I read the front page, and I know the speculation, but I'm The Decider and I decide what is bestI don't know where you live, but where I live (Massachusetts), this hasn't happened with cigarettes. Sure, cigarettes are taxed a lot, but they are not banned altogether (although there are anti-smoking laws relating to the workplace).
On top of that, your argument is just flawed. One person eating the occasional junk food item affects nobody but that person. One person smoking cigarettes around others affects the health of everybody in the immediate area. Continuous exposure to second-hand smoke can be harmful to one's health, even fatal. I don't care what you say, you watching me drink a bottle of Mountain Dew or eat a Big Mac isn't going to give you a heart attack.
I purposefully avoid going into restaurants, for example, if I see people smoking outside of them. It's not enough that smoking is banned inside (there is no such thing as a non-smoking section). The establishment should be making sure patrons don't have to pass through thick clouds of cigarette smoke and jeopardize their health just to enter the building.
If there were a way for people to smoke without polluting the air for everyone around them, I really wouldn't give a rat's ass when/where/why they did it. (I'm not for the complete banning of cigarettes. Actually, I think all complete prohibitions should be repealed.) However, that's not the case, and no matter how entitled a smoker may feel, (s)he has no right to pollute my lungs with her/his filth. Just like it's illegal to wave a weapon around in the air out in public, I feel it should be illegal to smoke around people in public that aren't consenting to smoke with you. I also feel justified when I punch someone in the face when they blow smoke in mine. Their face will fully recover after the bruise goes away, whereas my body will take much longer to get rid of cigarette exhaust. (On top of that, a punch to the face is neither carcinogenic nor cumulative.)