Well, think about it - assuming that AI exists (or it will in the near future) - and that's a very big IF, but let's assume this for a second.
Ignoring the people who work on it; it only needs electricity and CPU power (ok, and networking) - fairly small requirements.
At the same time: it doesn's sleep, it is potentially very fast, and if all those SciFi books are to be trusted - it's God-like.
So, do you want a God as your personal slave, or you want one of them against you? Feel free to think about all of the popular culture references - how does humanity usually approaches this?
It was branded as a Mercury or Mercur, mid 80s.
I had one of these, drove quite nice (Mazda, after all), but rusted fast in the Canadian winters (again, Mazda).
>In the future, all employees will be treated like front-line grunts; easily interchangeable and expendable.
What is this - a post from the 80s?!
I've been working for a major corporation and all ICs are being treated this way, for as long as I can remember.
Important team member is leaving the team and only s/he knows the details of our prod system/next-gen design? Who cares?
"Hey, you - I want this up and running next Friday!"
Jeez...
Another robot did it?;-)
May be the military wants to show that they are super efficient these days and they do not waste time on coming up with cute acronyms.
I've been on/. for ages and all my previous urges to comment were surpassed by my laziness, but when it comes to STL I have to make an exception.
F^&% STL implementation, good idea, ^*&^*&^* terrible implementation.
Why not just "add()" WHY "push_back()" ?
I guess that's what we get from the academia.
I dunno, I've applied twice for positions with them. Once had few phone interviews. My impression was that a) they don't care about past experiences and b) they consider them a liability.
I kind of got that vibe "you are too old for us, judging by your resume".
I've chatted with some people online who had the same experience/got the same feeling interviewing with them.
Well, karma is a bitch...
Another day, another story about G wackiness...
I only feel sorry that/. was not around when MS was the rising star, I would love to read the "old" stories about how great and wonderful was MS at the time.
What will be the next one - someone there changes their underwear?
Hmm, what kind of device are you using that puts batteries next to your crotch?...
WAIT A MINUTE!
Boys, we have a woman posted among us! Oh, dear Slashdot...
I'll second this. And this is not just my opinion - there was a similar discussion on one of the Java mailing lists regarding the Google interview process.
Several senior level developers expressed the same experience. At the end of the discussion (which included few G employees) it was generally acknowledged that that what Google does, but that's their business after all.
As someone put it in "they can chose the way to shoot themselves in the foot".
Buck
You must still believe in communism and Santa Claus too, eh?
OS is not going to solve anything in this case, the software in this case is just an enabler to sell more hardware and make a profit.
FOS will make it even easier to create clones, that's any MAC OS is based on BSD, not Linux.
If the people who get frustrated with the HR departments of Google, Yahoo and MS started their own SE, it would probably become of the top 5 in usage.;-)
I would say that Google is eating up the goodwill of people why had to deal with them. I had an interview with them as well. After that I've tried to learn what was the result of the interview process. Send several emails and left few voice message - not a peep from them back.
It takes so little to be polite... so sad.
Thanks, I will take a look.
I know I have a better shot at smaller companies and I am looking into them too.
I was just commenting based on my experience with some of the larger corporations.
Have a nice day!
Some background: I am a Canadian trying to find job in the USA. More than 15 years of experience, C/C++/Java/C#, etc.
I did some interviews with some major companies - Google, Amazon, etc. The quality of the HR "experience" was kind of low; if I didn't know who the companies were I would be surprised they are that successful.
Someone might even say that this is a part of the grand scheme in order to discourage North Americans, I don't think so.
So, no wonder it's hard to get good people when the HR departments suck.
And this is before I even started talking about compensation - I am *very* flexible, salary was never the issue.
I would love to get in touch with some people posting here and make them put their money where their mouth is, just to see what are the conditions they are offering, but this is Slashdot, not Monster.
I am surprised that no on has mentioned Fuji already. Isn't their hehagonal sensor doing the same, may be in a different physical pattern?
I currently have one of their cameras with this sensor and the quality of the image is superb - smooth as digital SLR (may be a bit less resolution though, but in real life is too hard to tell).
What a coincidence, just a few days ago I wrote a "brainfart" on Google and why it is starting to scare me.
Here is the text:
"You plan for what the enemy can do, not what he will do" - Carl von Clausewitz
Frankly, Google is starting to scare me. The main reason - the sentence above.
I have to confess that I am not completely getting it (what von C. is trying to say). I will asume that he meant "plan not for what you think he will do, but for all that the enemy is able do".
With the recent announcements from Google I am starting to be afraid about whet Google is able to do with my browsing habits (on-line activity information). Being rather old and very cynical I do not trust someone with power, even if he tells me that he is playing "nice" (the famous Google slogan "do no harm").
Let me make this a bit more colorful - if someone is going to have me by the balls, s/he better have taken the Hippocratic oath and wear white clothes (keep the siringes hidden please).
If you think that this is too hard, please, do keep reading on.
Remember the time (few years ago) when MicroSoft was pushing their Passport idea? The idea was that one can use the same online ID (username/password) to log in into multiple Websites/systems. This is generally not a bad idea and certainly many online services can benefit from universal online ID, but many people (myself included) had a problem with someone like MicroSoft (some people had problem especially with MicroSoft) knowing and tracking where, when and what they do online.
So, the MS's idea didn't do very well, but what if someone is able to do exactly the same - tracking where, when and what you do online without even asking you for your permission?
Some smart readers are probably getting the idea by now that I am implying that Google is certainly capable of doing just that.
I am not the world topmost expert on Internet technologies, but I am a geek and I have been with the WWW almost since the beginning, so let me try to explain how this is possible.
They say that in life there are only two certain things - taxes and death (going in chronological order;-) Online, for every "browser" (ok, user - the person, not the program) there are four other certain things:
1. search engine(s)
2. server logs
3. ads
4. VOUWS (very often used web services) - mail, chat, blogs, online data storage If someone offers all these web services, then he is capable of tracking their users (trough cookies/log ins) everywhere they go and everything they do (their online activity and the contents they produce - e-mails, chat, blogs).
So far Google has covered half of these directly (search engine and e-mail) and is capable of accessing information about the rest through partners - ads and their new visitors tracking tool (Google Analytics).
Are you scared already? If you understand what I am talking about, and you are not at least warried, then I can see only two explanations - you lack imagination or you are waaaaay too optimistic.
Me? I am working on a change in my browing habits and hardening my computers again tracking.
To the optimistic readers - even if Google does no harm at the moment there is no guarantee that they won't in the future. Don't forget they are a public company now, not a group of boyscouts.
Absolute power corrupts absolutely. ("Enemy of the state", anyone?)
And if this is not enough for ya, keep in mind that companies can get bought. As big as Google is now, there are bigger fish out there. Just for being so able, Google can be taken over and then all bets are off what the new owner is going to do with all this power.
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That's a cool novel idea, Ray Bradbury-style ;-)
Heh, remember the "gay bomb" (I forgot if it was "gay ray" or "gay powder" they were considering)?
You might want to chat with Google, Microsoft, Facebook, etc.
Oh, sure, it's rarely "Americans" working on.
Well, think about it - assuming that AI exists (or it will in the near future) - and that's a very big IF, but let's assume this for a second.
Ignoring the people who work on it; it only needs electricity and CPU power (ok, and networking) - fairly small requirements.
At the same time: it doesn's sleep, it is potentially very fast, and if all those SciFi books are to be trusted - it's God-like.
So, do you want a God as your personal slave, or you want one of them against you? Feel free to think about all of the popular culture references - how does humanity usually approaches this?
Do you see where I am going with this?
It was branded as a Mercury or Mercur, mid 80s.
I had one of these, drove quite nice (Mazda, after all), but rusted fast in the Canadian winters (again, Mazda).
>In the future, all employees will be treated like front-line grunts; easily interchangeable and expendable. What is this - a post from the 80s?! I've been working for a major corporation and all ICs are being treated this way, for as long as I can remember. Important team member is leaving the team and only s/he knows the details of our prod system/next-gen design? Who cares? "Hey, you - I want this up and running next Friday!" Jeez...
Please don't soil the memory of Edward Lyle (Gene Hackman), you might want to check "The Conversation" (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0071360/).
Another robot did it? ;-)
May be the military wants to show that they are super efficient these days and they do not waste time on coming up with cute acronyms.
I've been on /. for ages and all my previous urges to comment were surpassed by my laziness, but when it comes to STL I have to make an exception.
F^&% STL implementation, good idea, ^*&^*&^* terrible implementation.
Why not just "add()" WHY "push_back()" ?
I guess that's what we get from the academia.
Buck
I dunno, I've applied twice for positions with them. Once had few phone interviews. My impression was that a) they don't care about past experiences and b) they consider them a liability. I kind of got that vibe "you are too old for us, judging by your resume". I've chatted with some people online who had the same experience/got the same feeling interviewing with them. Well, karma is a bitch...
of course ;-)
Sorry for stealing someone's sig: ASCII a stupid question, get a stupis ANSI.
Another day, another story about G wackiness... /. was not around when MS was the rising star, I would love to read the "old" stories about how great and wonderful was MS at the time.
I only feel sorry that
What will be the next one - someone there changes their underwear?
Honey, is this you? ;-)
(By GF also thinks that I am sexist pig and has no sense of humour
Lighten up, bud, go watch some MWC episodes.
Hmm, what kind of device are you using that puts batteries next to your crotch?...
WAIT A MINUTE!
Boys, we have a woman posted among us! Oh, dear Slashdot...
That's why we need sites like this - GrayedCode http://www.grayedcode.com/.
Too bad it is largely unknown.
I'll second this. And this is not just my opinion - there was a similar discussion on one of the Java mailing lists regarding the Google interview process.
Several senior level developers expressed the same experience. At the end of the discussion (which included few G employees) it was generally acknowledged that that what Google does, but that's their business after all.
As someone put it in "they can chose the way to shoot themselves in the foot". Buck
You have an e-mail, Steve?
You must still believe in communism and Santa Claus too, eh?
OS is not going to solve anything in this case, the software in this case is just an enabler to sell more hardware and make a profit.
FOS will make it even easier to create clones, that's any MAC OS is based on BSD, not Linux.
If the people who get frustrated with the HR departments of Google, Yahoo and MS started their own SE, it would probably become of the top 5 in usage. ;-)
I would say that Google is eating up the goodwill of people why had to deal with them. I had an interview with them as well. After that I've tried to learn what was the result of the interview process. Send several emails and left few voice message - not a peep from them back.
It takes so little to be polite... so sad.
Thanks, I will take a look.
I know I have a better shot at smaller companies and I am looking into them too.
I was just commenting based on my experience with some of the larger corporations.
Have a nice day!
Been there, done that.
Big G is already doing it - same snobby process and same results.
Some background: I am a Canadian trying to find job in the USA. More than 15 years of experience, C/C++/Java/C#, etc.
I did some interviews with some major companies - Google, Amazon, etc. The quality of the HR "experience" was kind of low; if I didn't know who the companies were I would be surprised they are that successful.
Someone might even say that this is a part of the grand scheme in order to discourage North Americans, I don't think so.
So, no wonder it's hard to get good people when the HR departments suck.
And this is before I even started talking about compensation - I am *very* flexible, salary was never the issue.
I would love to get in touch with some people posting here and make them put their money where their mouth is, just to see what are the conditions they are offering, but this is Slashdot, not Monster.
I am surprised that no on has mentioned Fuji already. Isn't their hehagonal sensor doing the same, may be in a different physical pattern? I currently have one of their cameras with this sensor and the quality of the image is superb - smooth as digital SLR (may be a bit less resolution though, but in real life is too hard to tell).
What a coincidence, just a few days ago I wrote a "brainfart" on Google and why it is starting to scare me. Here is the text: "You plan for what the enemy can do, not what he will do" - Carl von Clausewitz Frankly, Google is starting to scare me. The main reason - the sentence above. I have to confess that I am not completely getting it (what von C. is trying to say). I will asume that he meant "plan not for what you think he will do, but for all that the enemy is able do". With the recent announcements from Google I am starting to be afraid about whet Google is able to do with my browsing habits (on-line activity information). Being rather old and very cynical I do not trust someone with power, even if he tells me that he is playing "nice" (the famous Google slogan "do no harm"). Let me make this a bit more colorful - if someone is going to have me by the balls, s/he better have taken the Hippocratic oath and wear white clothes (keep the siringes hidden please). If you think that this is too hard, please, do keep reading on. Remember the time (few years ago) when MicroSoft was pushing their Passport idea? The idea was that one can use the same online ID (username/password) to log in into multiple Websites/systems. This is generally not a bad idea and certainly many online services can benefit from universal online ID, but many people (myself included) had a problem with someone like MicroSoft (some people had problem especially with MicroSoft) knowing and tracking where, when and what they do online. So, the MS's idea didn't do very well, but what if someone is able to do exactly the same - tracking where, when and what you do online without even asking you for your permission? Some smart readers are probably getting the idea by now that I am implying that Google is certainly capable of doing just that. I am not the world topmost expert on Internet technologies, but I am a geek and I have been with the WWW almost since the beginning, so let me try to explain how this is possible. They say that in life there are only two certain things - taxes and death (going in chronological order ;-) Online, for every "browser" (ok, user - the person, not the program) there are four other certain things:
1. search engine(s)
2. server logs
3. ads
4. VOUWS (very often used web services) - mail, chat, blogs, online data storage If someone offers all these web services, then he is capable of tracking their users (trough cookies/log ins) everywhere they go and everything they do (their online activity and the contents they produce - e-mails, chat, blogs).
So far Google has covered half of these directly (search engine and e-mail) and is capable of accessing information about the rest through partners - ads and their new visitors tracking tool (Google Analytics).
Are you scared already? If you understand what I am talking about, and you are not at least warried, then I can see only two explanations - you lack imagination or you are waaaaay too optimistic.
Me? I am working on a change in my browing habits and hardening my computers again tracking.
To the optimistic readers - even if Google does no harm at the moment there is no guarantee that they won't in the future. Don't forget they are a public company now, not a group of boyscouts.
Absolute power corrupts absolutely. ("Enemy of the state", anyone?)
And if this is not enough for ya, keep in mind that companies can get bought. As big as Google is now, there are bigger fish out there. Just for being so able, Google can be taken over and then all bets are off what the new owner is going to do with all this power.
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