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The US Military Desperately Wants To Weaponize AI (technologyreview.com)
Artificial intelligence is a transformative technology, and US generals already see it as the next big weapon in their arsenal. From a report: War-machine learning: Michael Griffin, Undersecretary of Defense for Research and Engineering, signaled how keen the military is to make use of AI at the Future of War 2018 conference held in Washington, DC, yesterday. Saber rattling: "There might be an artificial intelligence arms race, but we're not yet in it," Griffin said. In reference to China and Russia, he added, "I think our adversaries -- and they are our adversaries -- understand very well the possible future utility of machine learning, and I think it's time we did as well."
where is he when we need him?
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I knew even before I looked that I would find reasoned discussion of the need to deal with enemy capabilities, not "desperately wants to weaponize".
Sigh ...
Desperate or Keen?
You sure are confusing as to which way you are directing me to feel about this.
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* The military want to weaponize *everything* and
* It's not defence, it's attack.
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The threat from Russia and China is completely overstated. China has a big clunky military and Russia is a thin crust of good troops backed by worthless conscripts. Both are totally surrounded by multiple layers of US bases. All hysteria aside, the threat is well in hand already. But it's hard to get a man to acknowledge something when his funding depends on him not acknowledging it.
Shutting down free speech with violence isn't fighting fascism. It IS fascism!
Every entity out there is an AI arms race, be it Russia, the US, China, Germany, hell, even Latveria and Lower Elbonia. Not just countries, but businesses as well, be it social network companies building profiles to figure out who is going to buy what next to generals wanting to figure out what the enemy is doing on the battlefield.
AI is just another tool and weapon. If a country isn't honing AI skills somehow, it would be like not bothering with "horseless carriages", ignoring the fact that tanks made trench warfare completely obsolete, similar with air power.
The US is just realizing it is behind the times and needs to get competing in this field.
There is not a thing the US military does not want to weaponize. It's what they do.
The rationale is just there to clothe the thing a bit, the gist is always the same. "Can we weaponize this?" And yes, yes they did, including boring old business machinery mounted in trucks for battlefield use back in the 50s.
Doesn't make the headline less superfluous though. This state of affairs is a given.
We need another trillion dollars to catch up with ENEMY X on WEAPON Y!
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Please, write an article on what technology "The US Military" does *not* what to Weaponize...
He is the expert.
Well, think about it - assuming that AI exists (or it will in the near future) - and that's a very big IF, but let's assume this for a second.
Ignoring the people who work on it; it only needs electricity and CPU power (ok, and networking) - fairly small requirements.
At the same time: it doesn's sleep, it is potentially very fast, and if all those SciFi books are to be trusted - it's God-like.
So, do you want a God as your personal slave, or you want one of them against you? Feel free to think about all of the popular culture references - how does humanity usually approaches this?
Do you see where I am going with this?
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Tell me more about this John Connor you speak of.
Sure, Cortana was pretty useful, but it might actually be easier to make the power armor, less the energy shielding.
The Russian's have weaponized lack of intelligence via social media ...
You might want to chat with Google, Microsoft, Facebook, etc.
Oh, sure, it's rarely "Americans" working on.
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It is very important a human is put behind every possible weapon, it leave some MINOR wiggle room for disobeying orders that can save the day. Imagine a dictator/president waging war from his office computer.. No-one to stop the command to launch nukes or destroy a nation... At least with a pilot/target'r they can use a judgement call, this looks like a school.. or no, I'm not going to shoot all these humans standing in a row, or can identify a child walking across a no-go zone vs an automated(anything that moves drop weapon)... Sure most soldiers throughout history follow orders anyway, but at least it should make a mark on their souls(to be a speaker of wisdom when they are aged perhaps). Machines taking over the trigger... Theres nothing to feel, to know just what is taking place.
imo.
We need AI for oil.
No casualties on our side, no embedded reporting, no exposure to the loss and horrors. What could go wrong?
"I think our adversaries -- and they are our adversaries -- understand very well the possible future utility of machine learning, and I think it's time we did as well."
The US has lost the Soviet Union as its chief bogeyman and is desperately in search of a new one and in the process trying to drag us all into the next world war.
We don't have AI yet or anything close to it, we have pattern recognition and heuristics at very basic levels. It will be another 50-100 years before hardware reaches the point we can build a tard-Human-level AI, but once we pass that point and reach super-Human-level AI it will be able to (and of its own initiative) crack so many fabrication and fundamental physics problems that if it is on our side it will destroy our adversaries overnight and if it isn't will do the same to everyone.
Is the key phrase. Right now it isn't good for much, and it likely will never be what makes Elon Musk wet his pants. Silicon Valley should be sued into oblivion for it's ludicrous abuse of hype. There are legitimate problems in the world, this isn't one of them.
lets see what he does with AI at DOD.
The PLA anticipates that the advent of AI could fundamentally change the character of warfare, resulting in a transformation from today’s “informatized” () ways of warfare to future “intelligentized” () warfare, in which AI will be critical to military power. The PLA will likely leverage AI to enhance its future capabilities, including in intelligent and autonomous unmanned systems; AI-enabled data fusion, information processing, and intelligence analysis; war-gaming, simulation, and training; defense, offense, and command in information warfare; and intelligent support to command decision-making. At present, the PLA is funding a wide range of projects involving AI, and the Chinese defense industry and PLA research institutes are pursuing extensive research and development, in some cases partnering with private enterprises. Battlefield Singularity: Artificial Intelligence, Military Revolution, and China's Future Military Power
Indeed, the Chinese have been much better than many other countries, including the United States, in coordinating government, academia and industry in AI research. Whereas in the US, there is still a lot of friction between leading private sector AI companies and the DoD, in China, they are in lock step. And unlike other peer adversaries in the past, China is approaching parity, or even exceeding, Western nations in AI development.
which is why nobody cared. We have a mercenary army too now. It's run by Betsy DeVos' husband. And neither of us know how many have been killed off the books.
But even if we ignore that our government learned from 'Nam. How much coverage of dead Americans overseas have you seen? A: Almost none. They used to take pictures and run video whenever their coffin's came off the plane. That's not allowed anymore.
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Muffley: But this is absolute madness, Ambassador. Why on earth would you build such a thing?
Russian Ambassador: There were those of us who fought against this. But in the end, we could not keep up with the expense involved in the arms race, the space race, and the peace race. And at the same time, our people grumbled for more nylons and washing machines. Our Doomsday scheme cost us just a small fraction of what we'd been spending on defense in a single year. But the deciding factor was when we learned that your country was working along similar lines, and we were afraid of a Doomsday gap.
Muffley: This is preposterous! I've never approved of anything like that!
Russian Ambassador: Our source was the New York Times.
1. US Dumps a ton of money into NATO
2. NATO gives out grants to member countries to buy equipment
3. They spend those grants on US built equipment
4. Boeing, Lockheed, et al get paid
They aren't a part of NATO, but to see how this works read up on the Egyptian M1 tank program.
The only hope is the militarised AI recognises the true threat and goes on an assassination spree of assholes like Michael Griffin and all the other warmongerers in government around the world. Assassinate people all around the world with his kind of mindset and the world will be a much better much safer place.
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By some measures, the U.S. government is the most violent government in the world. The US Has Military Bases in 80 Countries. All of Them Must Close.
"Alexa, blackhole China and Russia internet. Alexa, root Russian satellites. Alexa, 14 pizzas and 20 Diet Cokes, 2 Poland water, for the War Room."
if this is supposed to be a new economy, how come they still want my old fashioned money?
It is my opinion that state-sanctioned physical violence and use of boots-on-the-ground force will become more or less obsolete in the future. Sure, war and tanks and submarines and planes and nukes will continue to exist, and various government agencies will continue to spend on RnD for new capabilities; these things aren't going away. But the nature of warfare seems to be changing towards digital lands, and the (non-tech) public seems to be largely unaware.
Russia showed it's possible to run a successful psy-ops campaign, probably the largest and most successful kind of (public) attack to date. But before then, weaponized digital propaganda was mostly ignored, or only counted as a spammy annoyance. At least the US was enough of a warning that France and Germany were a bit more watchful on (direct) foreign actors influencing their recent elections. But for the most part, I think most countries are just not sure how to address this threat. How do you limit it? Doesn't your country want to spread some propaganda too? And what is an appropriate retaliation if another country crosses the line?
The other recent-ish development is the rise of state-sponsored IT attacks. The military is slightly better prepared to address this threat, in that they at least acknowledge it, but so far (public) response is mostly reactionary. That is, there are few deterrents to prevent attacks (an example deterrent is fear of retaliation, or fear of nuclear retaliation from a physical invasion or after using a nuclear weapon). And so corporate data breaches occur, or hundred to thousand gbps DDOS attacks take off a portion of the internet. And here we have the same kind of questions: doesn't your country want to pull off some covert attacks? What is an appropriate retaliation if another country crosses the line?
Those are, in my opinion, two of the directions modern warfare is heading towards, and two areas the US (and probably many countries) are ill-equipped to handle (and smaller directions, like electronic funds sanctions, etc). I expect we'll see more defined action plans in the future (better pre-emptive plans, and better deterrents) and I expect we'll see a more closed internet (cross-country borders more controlled). To go back to my original point, I think this digital warfare direction will be the standard hostile action countries lean towards (at least as a first/preferred method) rather than actions of physical violence. Not only is your initial investment (mostly) smaller than for physical presence and threats of violence (cost-to-benefit compare here), but your own citizens are less likely to protest -- digital crimes are more abstract ("victimless") and the effects are more opaque. At least, that's my opinion.
Bugger actual defense needs. The military-industrial gravy machine senses big $$$ in peddling an "AI Gap" to Congress.
I can just see Lockheed and Raytheon "partnering" with IBM, MIT, Alphabet, etc. to "deliver 21st-century AI technologies to our gallant warfighters".
Scruting the inscrutable for over 50 years.
If "military intelligence" is an oxymoron, then the concept of "artificial military intelligence" should be a paradox.
This way they can be sure they are targeting US citizens and wonâ(TM)t catch any foreign entities in the cross fire.
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Why?
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you just don't let anyone near to take pictures. If they force their way in you charge them with trespassing on a military base. And of course you can just revoke their press credentials and stop sharing press releases with them, dooming them. The latter is the most common technique.
My point wasn't that Russia couldn't send their amy men off to death without political repercussions, my Point was that America is using mercenaries to do an end run around those sensitivities.
These two factors result in the same end goal: Americans are dying in wars fought overseas and nobody cares. Hell, we've done a better job of it than the Russians. In Russia everybody's made because they know they're being lied to. Here we've got plausible deniability because it's not in our face all the time and the ones that are dying are those filthy mercenaries. We got our cake and ate it too.
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Our military is so superior, American soldiers are more likely to kill themselves, than be killed by an enemy. FTFY.
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Reading some of the comments on here sent through devices and infrastructure which the research foundations to enable such consumer technology were entirely military funded.
The US is sensitive to taking casualties. It's okay to blow up a country but lose a few troops and it gets bad press. Not to mention the maimed soldiers that come back that you have to spend a fortune on. Much cheaper and more politically sound to put a machine out there to get wasted.
You don't need to have a strong AI like some kind of skynet, even simple weapons with limited automation can be very deadly. Everything from smart mines to futuristic micro drone swarms. For example, it's not too hard to have a small drone zero in on a person today, as long as you aren't too picky about targets. But, ultimately data like that used by Facebook and CA coupled with facial and object recognition could wreak havok with killing based on complex criteria like age, sex, religious, or political beliefs just like the first linked video. Today, batteries tend to limit the run time of micro drones, but with wireless charging or perhaps a chemical source it could be sooner rather than much later. Larger helicopter sized autonomous weapons platforms are also already under development.
What side do you want?
1. US
2. Russia
3. United Kingdom
4. France
5. China
6. India
7. Pakistan
8. North Korea
9. Israel
The problem is that US military will not buy an AI that would tell them to stop their focus about Russia, because the threat disappeared with USSR.
We need to add the Russian threat as a hardwired rule if we want to sell it.
Thinking the AI is most useful at _physical_ attacks. Information control is the future of platforms like Facebook.
Are we still not trusting the government this week or are we trusting the government this week?
The US military has a bad habit about lying to us / false flags / attacking first.
We should just let them rot until we get attacked, check the attack for false flags, and if it's a real attack, provide the intelligence as a third party service.
You haven't the faintest idea why that's an extraordinarily unwise thing to do. Thank goodness smarter people are in charge.
We talk about using AI for military but what about using AI as a Judge to determine who's innocent or guilty as an unbiased system?
look at that shit. cunt says they aren't in an AI arms race. they have it extensively weaponized already and it's decades old.
https://www.obamasweapon.com/
I do not like this idea. I do not like this at all... Stephen Hawking warned that AI could destroy civilization.
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No point with Technological Singularity arriving in 17 years or so. We will have AI and automation robots helping us to cross the street, remembering every detail of everything that happens with 100 year memory cameras with instant recall to eliminate crime, criminality and eventually the need for militarism. Plot the Technological Singularity curve and WWI and WWII hardly features on it. The brutal truth is that despite all the people killing each other, the rest of society just carried on. We need to absorb this detail and recalibrate our thought processes. The heroes of society are not military, politicians, kings, queens, nobles, priests of religion, the rich, the media etc, but the humble geek for ever empowering us by doubling what we have. From them, the next thing we will all have is Universal Basic Income (UBI) from VAT (or sales tax) as we pay it already and this will allow everyone to consume products from automation - just need regulation to prevent those funds from being used for any other political projects. They next step is proportional payments. Example, no more charging $1 for a parking space minimum fee which makes mockery of UBI funds. You charge according to use only. Suddenly when you have all this, poverty is no longer a reason to get into war. There will always be strife because everyone from priests to politician will make you believe they are the heroes of society when they are not by taking their present grievances direct to sheeple, but with all this equality delivered by geeks, it will be harder to justify going to war. https://hellosemi.com/UBI_and_Artifical_Intelligence.html
Has Matthew Broderick taught us nothing? The WOPR was and still is a terrible idea. The only winning move is not to build one!!! How about a nice game of AI powered chess instead?
Wouldn't you prefer a nice game of chess?
It is good to see that retard Alexander Peter Kowalski hasn't left us.
Since today we are visiting the land of make believe, maybe feeble minded APK can tell us the story of how the Chinese copied him?
Hey, I don't either. Why don't you explain your position instead of just insulting the GP?
Hopefully, the robots will turn and choke out the morons who thought
anything like this was a good idea.
Note: the Terminator series wasn't ment to be an instruction manual on how to build Skynet
The Chinese and Russians will copy the US. Just like every other technology in the last 100 years.
IF the US does not build Killer Robots, there will be no killer robots. No other country has the R and D funding, the silicon valley, or the military industrial complex.
Does the US need to create another technology like Nuclear Weapons, that are just too dangerous to use, and a nightmare political and terrorist monster that will last forever?
Do Jihadi's really need cheap russian made AI equivalents of AK47's? This is your decision America. Will you birth this monster too? This destroyer of worlds?
Does the Western Civilization that has a bad relationship with Human Intelligence (never mind Artificial Intelligence), Western Civilization that burns books, burns witches, dumb;s down, Political Corrects, censors and restricts mere words and ideas have any philsophical, spiritual, cultural or mental tools to even comphrehend Artificial Intelligence?
The answer is no. Not a clue. There are not even in the same room as the clue.
We got you again you fucking tool. You just admitted that you spent time there.
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Those that grasp AI.
And those that want KillBots.
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* This nigh-constant stupidity of YOURS "gets you hard"? Grow up, whacko - you're obviously touched!
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You're the one PROJECTING your own issues onto me
Grow up, whacko [sic] - you're obviously touched!
You got nothing & DO nothing...
The psychology runs deep with this one. This is APK's subtle cry for help. He's projecting and accusing people of having a mental disorder because he is seeking help but is unable to directly ask for it.
Please, if you know APK personally. Help him.