is what is doubleclick going to do with all the data it has?
if it sells that "non-personal" data, there is no guarantee that the purchasing will operate in a similar "ethical" fashion.
i say those things in quotes because doubleclick maintains that it acts in an ethical manner and that it does not connect personal data with cookie information.
however, i have made a conscious choice, which many others have done, to not trust them.
and since doubleclick denies us access, i am concerned about what data they have acquired about me and what that data will be used for.
tivo isn't the only game in town and they should recognize that it's easier in the long run to just roll your own.
you can get one of those mini-pc's with a pci slot, put in a pvr card (there are many available) from hauppage, ati, or any other vendor, install linux and http://www.mythtv.org/the mythtv software (which i understand doesn't work well with ATI or Creative cards) and begin enjoying your shows.
Remember...the more drive space you have the more you can record and if you get a dvd burner into the same box, you may be able to back up your programs for later viewing (may not work on all shows).
Tivo? who needs 'em....
because installing their patches is like a round of russian roulette.
sometimes the patch works perfectly on install, sometimes it brings down the whole system, sometimes it does something else that's worse...like force you to fdisk and start over.
i haven't installed sp2 because i know five people who have installed it and three have had bad experiences and two have had positive experiences.
so...i wait until there's more info on how to fix the problems...meantime, i have an unpatched machine guarded only by zone-alarm and my common sense (which obviously isn't that great because i'm still using ms).
if ms made these patches better and safer (which i'm not even sure if that's possible), we probably wouldn't be having this discussion.
i can't remember the extesion but the ipod format should be the only format making in-roads against the mp3 format.
most new electronic devices play the mp3 format but ignore the acc, ogg, wma, etc formats, like dvd players, car stereos, and the like.
I agree.
You have to remember that there is no literal interpretation to this.
The premise of the material says that there shall be some instrument, be it a mark, a chip, or genetic sequence that will be used as a global identifier.
This could be construed as the mark of the beast.
And it's not too far off to imagine that the US Gov't will not allow you on a plane without having one of these chips since they can be used for identification.
And if you have read the AP article about this you'd know that people in Spain are already using these for cashless transactions at some of the bars in that country.
So the implications are huge...besides...look at it from my standpoint...do you want to guess wrong and risk eternal damnation?
Not me brother...
"Just look at any other crime out there: murder, rape, robbery, etc"
the problem here is that the crimes you listed are generally crimes committed against a handful of people.
these crimes have the potential to affect millions of people and thousands of businesses.
what we need, and i know this will never be possible, is an os that has all the easiness of windows that can print out errors, logs, and other vital information that people need to know in plain and simple english.
there should be no backdoors to install anything.
every bit that gets transferred on or off a person's pc, aka..their personal property, should be approved by the owner of the pc, not necessarily the user.
it won't do me any good to write my congressman.
he's lamar smith, r-san antonio and he's in the pocket of the industry.
my attempts to contact him about recognizing and codifying fair use have been met with what i can anti-consumer rhetoric.
but alas...i'll keep writing even though i think i know the outcome.
I don't think fines will be an effective enough deterrent.
I'd like to see jail time for violators. Afterall, these folks are guilty of theft. They've stolen space, cpu time, electricity, possibly bandwidth, and other resources from me.
The law could hold the author of the software plus those who have funded it liable and therefore responsible.
Now, I know it'd be too much to ask for but I'd really like to see this classified as a serious felony or a major misdemeanor so that the person has to spend time mixed in with the violent offenders and the general population at a prison or a county jail.
i've watched enough law and order to hear the line of questioning in a court case...
a.d.a. -- "so mr. criminal, why did you knowingly share copywritten files on the internet?"
suspect -- "i didn't know i was sharing files"
a.d.a -- "oh come now. surely you had some idea that by installing kazaa, gaim, bit torrent, edonkey, or any of those products on to your home pc that were going to be sharing files. didn't you?"
suspect -- "no...i had no idea"
a.d.a. -- "let me get this straight. you built your own pc, self-installed the operating system, overclocked your cpu by manipulating those little toggle switches on the motherboard but you didn't take the time to read a faq about the p2p program you installed on your computer?"
suspect: "no. i didn't"
a.d.a. -- "so you are saying that you pay careful attention to every detail about your pc except for the software that's commonly used to share files?"
suspect: "that's correct"
a.d.a. -- "so then you knew that this software was going to be used to share files?"
and with that statement...the suspect has convicted themselves and the jury returns a guilty verdict.
the trouble is that we have a congress that pays attention to the people who stand to make money on the passage of this law (the mpaa, riaa, and other copyright holders) while ignoring the voice of the people who are going to be stuck paying for these copyrights (the consumers).
add to that the additional burden that consumers bear with having to be manipulated into buying media which has copy protection schemes which limit playing a cd so that you would someday conceivably need one licensed copy for your house, one for your car, one for your portable media device, and perhaps one for your pc.
i don't think anyone is expecting ms to fix the equivilent to a wiper blade 10 years later.
but the security problems within windows have existed since dos.
and they have an obligation for those products which they released 10 years ago or longer which have safety/security issues just like gm had an obligation to those 20-30 year old pickups with the faulty fuel tank design.
i don't want to hold them at a higher standard but just the same standard as any other manufacturer.
any other manufacturer would be required to maintain some level of responsibility for their product but ms somehow manages a free pass.
it might be in part to their claim that end users don't actually OWN the software, they have just paid for permission to use it.
take a look at the pickle gm was in during the mid-80's.
their trucks were exploding because of the faulty design which placed the gas tank between the bed and the cab.
they were held accountable for that 20+ year manufacturing flaw.
ms should also be held accountable in the same way and if possible to fix, they should be ordered to fix it since they obviously don't feel a moral obligation to right the wrongs in their product.
they shouldn't be treated any differently than any other company manufacturing a product.
perhaps i wasn't clear enough...
the use of the date 9/11 has less to do with a terror attack than with using it as a time marker
you cannot deny that we are right now in the middle of another retro phase.
remakes of old movies, remakes of old songs (like korn's remake of "word up"), and metal lunchboxes, are all some of the things that are out there right now.
but i think about this...the best car i've ever had (performance and longevitywise) was a 65 bonneville.
the best gadget i ever had was a 1970's error TI calculator, and the best meal i ever had was cooked on a gas stove with iron pans.
and my grandfather did nicely his whole life without a phone and with a black and white tv that he only used to watch football on sundays.
there's something to going back...and i can't wait to make the retro jump myself and get that 66 GTO convertible i've been wanting or that amazing woman i dumped back in 85.
now that you mention it...i have noticed that Yahoo's new pest patrol app embedded in it's IE toolbar reports the MusicMatch dll's as spyware.
i guess we can expect that result to be tweaked a little bit.
you cannot find the term "fair use" codified anywhere in US Code or statute.
the idea of fair use is based on a premise that had long been held before the advent of digitial technology.
it harkens back to a time when you owned an LP or a cassette tape and that tape or album would wear out, be stolen, or break and you had to fork out the cash to buy a replacement.
well..since we can now make almost perfect digital copies at home and share them almost endlessly, the industry has managed to get the congress on board in wiping out that long held notion of fair use.
i don't like the way it's heading but no one can deny that this is indeed the course our country has taken.
basically...the new features prposed in the upcoming versions of windows and ms-office, plus the pending legislation before congress would protect the company and will kill this kind of information from being leaked.
once those leaks are sealed and only authorized eyes see these documents, you can bet that whistleblowing on nefarious activities will come to a halt.
let me tell you...discover is once of the most aggregious violators of debt collection law that there is.
according to the fair debt collections act, http://www.ftc.gov/os/statutes/fdcpa/fdcpact.htm, the collection agency is not supposed to share any of it's information about a debt or deliquency with a third party.
well meet the third party.
for the past couple of weeks, discover has been calling my house looking for someone who doesn't live here but has similar initials.
i've informed them over and over again that they have they are barking up the wrong tree but to no avail.
they have given me every detail about this poor person's payment problem with them.
and whoever said it earlier is correct.
phone collection is used to harass and intimidate the consumer.
the only way you can get this to stop is to tell them in writing that you request they not contact you via phone anymore at home or work.
i take it one step further and encourage any debtors who wish to call me, to contact me via mail so that there is a documentation trail.
that way there's no mistaking what was said, promised and by whom.
just to get mine airborne so i can fly over traffic problems in the morning and then land on the otherside of the traffic jam and keep cruising on my merry way.
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is what is doubleclick going to do with all the data it has? if it sells that "non-personal" data, there is no guarantee that the purchasing will operate in a similar "ethical" fashion. i say those things in quotes because doubleclick maintains that it acts in an ethical manner and that it does not connect personal data with cookie information. however, i have made a conscious choice, which many others have done, to not trust them. and since doubleclick denies us access, i am concerned about what data they have acquired about me and what that data will be used for.
tivo isn't the only game in town and they should recognize that it's easier in the long run to just roll your own. you can get one of those mini-pc's with a pci slot, put in a pvr card (there are many available) from hauppage, ati, or any other vendor, install linux and http://www.mythtv.org/the mythtv software (which i understand doesn't work well with ATI or Creative cards) and begin enjoying your shows. Remember...the more drive space you have the more you can record and if you get a dvd burner into the same box, you may be able to back up your programs for later viewing (may not work on all shows). Tivo? who needs 'em....
oh..screw it...just blame microsoft.
why?
because installing their patches is like a round of russian roulette.
sometimes the patch works perfectly on install, sometimes it brings down the whole system, sometimes it does something else that's worse...like force you to fdisk and start over.
i haven't installed sp2 because i know five people who have installed it and three have had bad experiences and two have had positive experiences.
so...i wait until there's more info on how to fix the problems...meantime, i have an unpatched machine guarded only by zone-alarm and my common sense (which obviously isn't that great because i'm still using ms).
if ms made these patches better and safer (which i'm not even sure if that's possible), we probably wouldn't be having this discussion.
and you know...that any player, playing any format sounds bad at 75 mph with both windows opened
i can't remember the extesion but the ipod format should be the only format making in-roads against the mp3 format.
most new electronic devices play the mp3 format but ignore the acc, ogg, wma, etc formats, like dvd players, car stereos, and the like.
I agree.
You have to remember that there is no literal interpretation to this.
The premise of the material says that there shall be some instrument, be it a mark, a chip, or genetic sequence that will be used as a global identifier.
This could be construed as the mark of the beast.
And it's not too far off to imagine that the US Gov't will not allow you on a plane without having one of these chips since they can be used for identification.
And if you have read the AP article about this you'd know that people in Spain are already using these for cashless transactions at some of the bars in that country.
So the implications are huge...besides...look at it from my standpoint...do you want to guess wrong and risk eternal damnation?
Not me brother...
"Just look at any other crime out there: murder, rape, robbery, etc" the problem here is that the crimes you listed are generally crimes committed against a handful of people. these crimes have the potential to affect millions of people and thousands of businesses. what we need, and i know this will never be possible, is an os that has all the easiness of windows that can print out errors, logs, and other vital information that people need to know in plain and simple english. there should be no backdoors to install anything. every bit that gets transferred on or off a person's pc, aka..their personal property, should be approved by the owner of the pc, not necessarily the user.
maybe those in the general public who have been apathetic to spammers and their activities will see that these just are people without ethics.
spammers are criminals who will stop at nothing to try to make a buck.
they prey upon the ignorance of the general public who gets a pc for home use, joke emails, and maybe for some simple pc games and companionship.
this behavior must be punished more severely or else it will continue to grow.
it won't do me any good to write my congressman.
he's lamar smith, r-san antonio and he's in the pocket of the industry.
my attempts to contact him about recognizing and codifying fair use have been met with what i can anti-consumer rhetoric. but alas...i'll keep writing even though i think i know the outcome.
The EFF's arguments are correct.
The FTC only has that power which Congress has delgated to it.
That said, it's become quite clear to me that the FTC is doing what it can to support corporate rights at the expense of consumer/end user rights.
Surely there has to be a happy medium here.
I don't think fines will be an effective enough deterrent.
I'd like to see jail time for violators. Afterall, these folks are guilty of theft. They've stolen space, cpu time, electricity, possibly bandwidth, and other resources from me.
The law could hold the author of the software plus those who have funded it liable and therefore responsible.
Now, I know it'd be too much to ask for but I'd really like to see this classified as a serious felony or a major misdemeanor so that the person has to spend time mixed in with the violent offenders and the general population at a prison or a county jail.
i've watched enough law and order to hear the line of questioning in a court case...
a.d.a. -- "so mr. criminal, why did you knowingly share copywritten files on the internet?"
suspect -- "i didn't know i was sharing files"
a.d.a -- "oh come now. surely you had some idea that by installing kazaa, gaim, bit torrent, edonkey, or any of those products on to your home pc that were going to be sharing files. didn't you?"
suspect -- "no...i had no idea"
a.d.a. -- "let me get this straight. you built your own pc, self-installed the operating system, overclocked your cpu by manipulating those little toggle switches on the motherboard but you didn't take the time to read a faq about the p2p program you installed on your computer?"
suspect: "no. i didn't"
a.d.a. -- "so you are saying that you pay careful attention to every detail about your pc except for the software that's commonly used to share files?"
suspect: "that's correct"
a.d.a. -- "so then you knew that this software was going to be used to share files?"
and with that statement...the suspect has convicted themselves and the jury returns a guilty verdict.
the trouble is that we have a congress that pays attention to the people who stand to make money on the passage of this law (the mpaa, riaa, and other copyright holders) while ignoring the voice of the people who are going to be stuck paying for these copyrights (the consumers).
add to that the additional burden that consumers bear with having to be manipulated into buying media which has copy protection schemes which limit playing a cd so that you would someday conceivably need one licensed copy for your house, one for your car, one for your portable media device, and perhaps one for your pc.
i don't think anyone is expecting ms to fix the equivilent to a wiper blade 10 years later.
but the security problems within windows have existed since dos.
and they have an obligation for those products which they released 10 years ago or longer which have safety/security issues just like gm had an obligation to those 20-30 year old pickups with the faulty fuel tank design.
i don't want to hold them at a higher standard but just the same standard as any other manufacturer.
any other manufacturer would be required to maintain some level of responsibility for their product but ms somehow manages a free pass.
it might be in part to their claim that end users don't actually OWN the software, they have just paid for permission to use it.
take a look at the pickle gm was in during the mid-80's.
their trucks were exploding because of the faulty design which placed the gas tank between the bed and the cab.
they were held accountable for that 20+ year manufacturing flaw.
ms should also be held accountable in the same way and if possible to fix, they should be ordered to fix it since they obviously don't feel a moral obligation to right the wrongs in their product.
they shouldn't be treated any differently than any other company manufacturing a product.
perhaps i wasn't clear enough... the use of the date 9/11 has less to do with a terror attack than with using it as a time marker you cannot deny that we are right now in the middle of another retro phase. remakes of old movies, remakes of old songs (like korn's remake of "word up"), and metal lunchboxes, are all some of the things that are out there right now. but i think about this...the best car i've ever had (performance and longevitywise) was a 65 bonneville. the best gadget i ever had was a 1970's error TI calculator, and the best meal i ever had was cooked on a gas stove with iron pans. and my grandfather did nicely his whole life without a phone and with a black and white tv that he only used to watch football on sundays. there's something to going back...and i can't wait to make the retro jump myself and get that 66 GTO convertible i've been wanting or that amazing woman i dumped back in 85.
i would love an analog watch with the same functionality of my casio (planner/phonebook/multi-timers).
i strongly suspect this all goes back to the comfort things that people are seeking in our post 9-11 world.
and let's face it...sometimes the things that brought us comfort or made us feel at home as children can sooth our battered nerves as adults.
now that you mention it...i have noticed that Yahoo's new pest patrol app embedded in it's IE toolbar reports the MusicMatch dll's as spyware. i guess we can expect that result to be tweaked a little bit.
that we have to listen to the Yahoo! yodel after every 4 mp3's?
you cannot find the term "fair use" codified anywhere in US Code or statute. the idea of fair use is based on a premise that had long been held before the advent of digitial technology. it harkens back to a time when you owned an LP or a cassette tape and that tape or album would wear out, be stolen, or break and you had to fork out the cash to buy a replacement. well..since we can now make almost perfect digital copies at home and share them almost endlessly, the industry has managed to get the congress on board in wiping out that long held notion of fair use. i don't like the way it's heading but no one can deny that this is indeed the course our country has taken.
but is there anything that this vessel has come in contact with that could harm us since the integrity of the capsule itself was breeched?
we will be able to be protected by whistleblowers.
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someone please correct me if i am wrong but...
this suit and the carnage over it began some time back with diebold's documents being leaked onto the net and posted just about everywhere.
the following articles will jar some memories...
http://yro.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=03/10/29/0
http://yro.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=03/10/17/2
http://yro.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=03/10/22/0
and there are many more on this topic, http://slashdot.org/search.pl?tid=103&query=diebo
basically...the new features prposed in the upcoming versions of windows and ms-office, plus the pending legislation before congress would protect the company and will kill this kind of information from being leaked.
once those leaks are sealed and only authorized eyes see these documents, you can bet that whistleblowing on nefarious activities will come to a halt.
let me tell you...discover is once of the most aggregious violators of debt collection law that there is.
according to the fair debt collections act, http://www.ftc.gov/os/statutes/fdcpa/fdcpact.htm, the collection agency is not supposed to share any of it's information about a debt or deliquency with a third party.
well meet the third party.
for the past couple of weeks, discover has been calling my house looking for someone who doesn't live here but has similar initials.
i've informed them over and over again that they have they are barking up the wrong tree but to no avail.
they have given me every detail about this poor person's payment problem with them.
and whoever said it earlier is correct.
phone collection is used to harass and intimidate the consumer.
the only way you can get this to stop is to tell them in writing that you request they not contact you via phone anymore at home or work.
i take it one step further and encourage any debtors who wish to call me, to contact me via mail so that there is a documentation trail.
that way there's no mistaking what was said, promised and by whom.
i mean come on...
businesses have just about every law on their side and now they are going to be allowed to mask who they are to trick you.
i just don't know what to think anymore.
the whole situation is discouraging and seems to be getting worse.
i'd propose calling my reps and senators but they are all pro-businessso i can't get anywhere.
although i'm open to ideas on how to persuade them to pass legislation banning the use of this product.
i am confused...how many coconuts equal one papaya. and how many papayas equal one fish?
just to get mine airborne so i can fly over traffic problems in the morning and then land on the otherside of the traffic jam and keep cruising on my merry way.