I'm not sure how you can both argue that they're "moral and just" and they are here "because the powerful elite demanded it". As if the powerful elite only asks for things because they are moral and just.
It is moral and just in the eyes of the powerful elite, the rest can go fuck themselves. Simple.
I think it's partially dependent on how fast your machine reads and renders the code. I see it at work, but not at home.
Hmm... I've browsed/. on dialup and 3Mbps cable, on a K6/500 and an Athlon64/3000+ and noticed no difference, i.e. everything renders fine. Hmm maybe you need a Beowulf cluster or a 386/40 to exhibit the bug?
Wouldn't this have the same effect as adding for example "Disallow:/forums/" to your robots.txt?
No. Disallowing forums completely would prevent google from indexing the forums at all. This scheme only prevents it from following certain (external) links.
How on earth are you going to make an open standard for reading, but not writing? Either the specs are available, or they are not. If OOO is going to be able to read a format, it doesn't require much intelligence to do the opposite.
Licensing. This stuff is patented so even though writing MS-XML files may be trivial, it may be just as illegal.
i choose OS X as it actually goes to sleep if I close the lid, and restarts in seconds when i open it. Much better than any other machine booting up(windows or Linux)
Wow! That's incredible!
*closes the lid of an old dell laptop w/debian, machine goes to sleep, reopens, presses power and it goes back up in about 5 seconds*
How comprehensive is the IAX coverage network? As I understand it, local Asterisk servers connect to remote Asterisks (sounds like line noise;) with IAX, with each edge server connected to local PSTN. So calls route across the Internet (or other WAN carrying the IAX) between local PSTN gateways, avoiding tolls. How big are the holes in that local coverage? How much of my PSTN line capacity in NYC would be hogged by strangers' incoming calls, once my gateway server is online here?
IAX is not a network, it's a protocol. There's no predefined grid of Asterisk servers, you only contact the servers you configure in your dialplan (like your ITSP's servers, ITSP=Internet Telephony Service Provider, like Nufone, VoicePulse etc. or your own servers in another location). Strangers won't hog your PSTN line just as they don't if you have a normal PBX (unless you let people dial in and dial back out).
Man, you must live in a different Poland than me;)
It's rather inaccurate, being that Poland has several landline companies, however the claim about "NOM, Netia and Energis" infact, I never even heard of them, I know of others like tktelephone etc... which are more popular because I see them on TV... However yes, TPSA is in a dominent position, but they are under tight regulations to free up most of their network for others to take advantage.
NOM is the 1044 long-distance operator, the first one after TPSA, Netia has LD and local calls (via radio lines and normal copper wires), Energis is damn expensive last I heard of it (mostly business-oriented). I have never seen TK Telekom (I assume that's what you mean) on TV. Do they even provide PSTN access or WAN/Internet connections only? And TPSA's "tight regulations" are a joke IMHO, they are a de facto monopolist, LD billing operators (a'la Tele2) don't change much.
While telephone calls might be expensive.. alot of people use these cheap services that allows one to call other people for cheaper costs by routing through diffrent providers (I don't know how this works). You pretty much have to dial some special number and use a card you buy in your local store to provide a code or such for this cheaper telephone call stuff.
Hmm, might? There are several studies showing that while telecom prices aren't always the highest in absolute terms, after taking income defferences into account, we are really screwed. The cards you mention probably work by routing the call via VoIP to another country/city/wherever. No big deal with Asterisk (recently covered on/.)
Plus, I'll also note that Voip is very popular in Poland.:)
It is? Please name at least one company that provides SIP/IAX2 termination. (unless you mean GG/Tlen/Skype etc.)
Also in the news: Terrorists are using CO2 to cause GLOBAL WARMING in their diabolical scheme to flood the Earth. Citizens can help fight terrorism by HOLDING THEIR BREATH to deny terrorists with this deadly new gas!
Yeah, it's getting it to appear as a drag-drop icon that's the hard part.
If someone could make a tool to turn Perl or shell scripts into drag-drop KDE applications, I could do the rest...
You don't need any special tool in KDE. Just make an application shortcut and drop files onto it, they get passed as the first and only command line argument. One disadvantage (for me) is that if you drop multiple files, you get multiple instances launched instead of a single one with N arguments.
VOIP intrigues me, but being a newbie at this, I still get a little dizzy by all of this. So perhaps if someone can enlighten me.:)
Ok so I install this thing on a Linux server. Then what? How do I make calls to say, someone in New York from LA? And who would I have to pay still? No one?
You set up Asterisk servers in NY and LA and make them communicate (hint: IAX2 rocks). Now you pay for net connectivity for both servers and that's about it. If you want a normal phone number attached to your Asterisk server, you need to sign up with a VOIP provider (there are plenty of them in the US, I wish there was at least one here...) - check the Asterisk Wiki (link in the summary), there's a list somewhere.
Also, how would I interface my phone with this thing? Would I need to get a VOIP phone?
You can use:
a VOIP phone (just about any SIP/H.323/MGCP phone you fancy although some don't work with Asterisk) for about $70-$500 (from Grandstream to Cisco)
an ATA (analog telephone adapter, IIRC) which costs a little below $100 per port (check out IAXy and the Sipura gear) - it's a device to plug in your analog phone(s) which then lets it communicate via VOIP
a TDM400P card by Digium with an FXS module (1-4 on a single card) - you plug in an analog phone and it works with Asterisk
a softphone (X-Lite for example) but it feels somewhat weird
If you want PSTN (public phone network) connectivity, you need either a VOIP provider account or a FXO interface card (check out X100P and TDM400P with FXO modules on Digium site).
For a home installation I think I'd recommend a Sipura SPA-3000
AFAIK, there is no such button on my phone and I've never seen mention of it in my carrier's documentation.
Don't know what phones you've seen but *every single one* I have seen and used has a button to reject a call. Whenever you get a call you don't want to answer, just press the red handset button and off you go.
As long as your teleco still has power. In my area (Maine), when I lose power so does my teleco (after a while).
However, now that I have VoIP, a cheap UPS means I have several hours worth of backup. In the future I can see various VoIP devices having built in battery backups.. that's hardly cost anythng.
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I'm not sure how you can both argue that they're "moral and just" and they are here "because the powerful elite demanded it". As if the powerful elite only asks for things because they are moral and just.
It is moral and just in the eyes of the powerful elite, the rest can go fuck themselves. Simple.
If I ever see you in real world, please remind me to smack you in the face for this comment.
Or does it do something useful like have windows explode when you click the little 'x'?
:P
Yeah, now that's really fuckin' useful, if you ask me
I think it's partially dependent on how fast your machine reads and renders the code. I see it at work, but not at home.
/. on dialup and 3Mbps cable, on a K6/500 and an Athlon64/3000+ and noticed no difference, i.e. everything renders fine. Hmm maybe you need a Beowulf cluster or a 386/40 to exhibit the bug?
Hmm... I've browsed
Hrmmmmmm somehow I think your telling porkies. You can pipe .au straight to dsp but not raw random data.
/dev/urandom > /dev/dsp for several years now as a way of testing sound output
Wanna bet? I've been using cat
Wouldn't this have the same effect as adding for example "Disallow: /forums/" to your robots.txt?
No. Disallowing forums completely would prevent google from indexing the forums at all. This scheme only prevents it from following certain (external) links.
How on earth are you going to make an open standard for reading, but not writing? Either the specs are available, or they are not. If OOO is going to be able to read a format, it doesn't require much intelligence to do the opposite.
Licensing. This stuff is patented so even though writing MS-XML files may be trivial, it may be just as illegal.
something that makes noise and turns lights on will scare away 99.9978% of all burgulars.
the shotgun is what you use on the last 0.0032% that are too stupid, high, or insane to know better.
so then you can have 100.001% of the burgulars(sic!) covered.
ok, it's a nitpick. mod me down
The point that open source = more bandwidth and better servers? Slashdot effect. Proof positive that open source is better!
:P
He probably couldn't afford more bandwidth after paying for all those software licences
"Using a DDOS on spammers is kind of like sending an arsonist to burn down the house of a murderer..."
:)
except without the fires and dead people...
Unless the server gets slahdotted in flames while the spammer stands nearby. Not that I'd care though
... in 2008 :P
i choose OS X as it actually goes to sleep if I close the lid, and restarts in seconds when i open it. Much better than any other machine booting up(windows or Linux)
Wow! That's incredible!
*closes the lid of an old dell laptop w/debian, machine goes to sleep, reopens, presses power and it goes back up in about 5 seconds*
Oh, wait...
How comprehensive is the IAX coverage network? As I understand it, local Asterisk servers connect to remote Asterisks (sounds like line noise ;) with IAX, with each edge server connected to local PSTN. So calls route across the Internet (or other WAN carrying the IAX) between local PSTN gateways, avoiding tolls. How big are the holes in that local coverage? How much of my PSTN line capacity in NYC would be hogged by strangers' incoming calls, once my gateway server is online here?
IAX is not a network, it's a protocol. There's no predefined grid of Asterisk servers, you only contact the servers you configure in your dialplan (like your ITSP's servers, ITSP=Internet Telephony Service Provider, like Nufone, VoicePulse etc. or your own servers in another location). Strangers won't hog your PSTN line just as they don't if you have a normal PBX (unless you let people dial in and dial back out).
Man, you must live in a different Poland than me ;)
/.)
:)
It's rather inaccurate, being that Poland has several landline companies, however the claim about "NOM, Netia and Energis" infact, I never even heard of them, I know of others like tktelephone etc... which are more popular because I see them on TV... However yes, TPSA is in a dominent position, but they are under tight regulations to free up most of their network for others to take advantage.
NOM is the 1044 long-distance operator, the first one after TPSA, Netia has LD and local calls (via radio lines and normal copper wires), Energis is damn expensive last I heard of it (mostly business-oriented). I have never seen TK Telekom (I assume that's what you mean) on TV. Do they even provide PSTN access or WAN/Internet connections only? And TPSA's "tight regulations" are a joke IMHO, they are a de facto monopolist, LD billing operators (a'la Tele2) don't change much.
While telephone calls might be expensive.. alot of people use these cheap services that allows one to call other people for cheaper costs by routing through diffrent providers (I don't know how this works). You pretty much have to dial some special number and use a card you buy in your local store to provide a code or such for this cheaper telephone call stuff.
Hmm, might? There are several studies showing that while telecom prices aren't always the highest in absolute terms, after taking income defferences into account, we are really screwed. The cards you mention probably work by routing the call via VoIP to another country/city/wherever. No big deal with Asterisk (recently covered on
Plus, I'll also note that Voip is very popular in Poland.
It is? Please name at least one company that provides SIP/IAX2 termination. (unless you mean GG/Tlen/Skype etc.)
Also in the news: Terrorists are using CO2 to cause GLOBAL WARMING in their diabolical scheme to flood the Earth. Citizens can help fight terrorism by HOLDING THEIR BREATH to deny terrorists with this deadly new gas!
:)
I just love my parent's +2, Informative mod
Yeah, it's getting it to appear as a drag-drop icon that's the hard part.
If someone could make a tool to turn Perl or shell scripts into drag-drop KDE applications, I could do the rest...
You don't need any special tool in KDE. Just make an application shortcut and drop files onto it, they get passed as the first and only command line argument. One disadvantage (for me) is that if you drop multiple files, you get multiple instances launched instead of a single one with N arguments.
Ok so I install this thing on a Linux server. Then what? How do I make calls to say, someone in New York from LA? And who would I have to pay still? No one?
You set up Asterisk servers in NY and LA and make them communicate (hint: IAX2 rocks). Now you pay for net connectivity for both servers and that's about it. If you want a normal phone number attached to your Asterisk server, you need to sign up with a VOIP provider (there are plenty of them in the US, I wish there was at least one here...) - check the Asterisk Wiki (link in the summary), there's a list somewhere.
Also, how would I interface my phone with this thing? Would I need to get a VOIP phone?
You can use:
- a VOIP phone (just about any SIP/H.323/MGCP phone you fancy although some don't work with Asterisk) for about $70-$500 (from Grandstream to Cisco)
- an ATA (analog telephone adapter, IIRC) which costs a little below $100 per port (check out IAXy and the Sipura gear) - it's a device to plug in your analog phone(s) which then lets it communicate via VOIP
- a TDM400P card by Digium with an FXS module (1-4 on a single card) - you plug in an analog phone and it works with Asterisk
- a softphone (X-Lite for example) but it feels somewhat weird
If you want PSTN (public phone network) connectivity, you need either a VOIP provider account or a FXO interface card (check out X100P and TDM400P with FXO modules on Digium site).For a home installation I think I'd recommend a Sipura SPA-3000
The Netiquette on the * mailing list is the worst I have ever seen.
;)
Thankfully we have Critch (and others) who does the job of a lameness filter
Now all we need is a new release of their Web site that has some screen shots for those taking a passing interest!
Asterisk is a daemon, what kind of screenshot would you like? An xterm with a config file snippet?
Does the fact that I find your sig funny mean I need to get out more? ;)
Maybe you've seen the old motto. MS: "The whole world is our beta test site."
:P
Release early, release often
AFAIK, there is no such button on my phone and I've never seen mention of it in my carrier's documentation.
Don't know what phones you've seen but *every single one* I have seen and used has a button to reject a call. Whenever you get a call you don't want to answer, just press the red handset button and off you go.
> My landline still works with no power.
As long as your teleco still has power. In my area (Maine), when I lose power so does my teleco (after a while).
However, now that I have VoIP, a cheap UPS means I have several hours worth of backup. In the future I can see various VoIP devices having built in battery backups.. that's hardly cost anythng.
Assuming your VoIP upstream has power...
It'll be idiot proof, so anyone can get infected...
It won't be idiot proof, it will be idiot dependent
If any unmodified* human, can achieve escape veolocity under it's own power**, then it's not a moon.
;)
African or European?
Now feel free to mod me down