Furthermore, when has Microsoft released an OS that did not need a major overhaul (other than Win2k) soon after it's release? Have you heard of Windows Server 2003? It's a mighty fine product. My livelihood is based on this OS. And BTW, I'm NOT a fanboy. I think Vista is debacle.
Although much beloved here at Slashdot, Google is not open source. They are a private, for-profit corporation that happens to have some free APIs.
Putting Google and Mozilla in the same category is disingenuous.
I just dialed 933 on my Vonage phone and got a pre-recorded message. The message stated that the 911 location service was ENABLED on my phone. However, I needed to check the Vonage dashboard to see what address it actually routes too.
Wouldn't it be a good idea for Vonage to implement this:
1) Dial 933
2) Automated responses...
a) telephone number
b) enable/disable status
c) address
d) where the 911 calls will route to
1) How about putting together a coherent sentence in the first place? Burning and ripping are two different things. Apparently you're confused by that simple concept.
2) You're right. It's just plain lunacy to attempt to enforce a law.
3) Just because you don't like the artists that are at the top of the charts, that gives you the right to steal their product?
I would like to thank you for letting me use your girlfriend. I like this new world order where everything that's mine is mine, and everything that's your's is mine.
Oh, and thanks for letting me use your car, bank account, dog, printer, and monkey.
Hey that's a good idea. Maybe we could even transmit it over the airwaves so people can receive it in their vehicles. We could call it r...a...d...
Oh wait....
Even when presented with the fact that the crime is LEGALLY defined as theft, there's still the naysayers.
I will refer back to dictionary.com's definition:
Main Entry: theft
Function: noun
Etymology: Old English thiefth
: LARCENY; broadly : a criminal taking of the property or services of another without consent
NOTE: Theft commonly encompasses by statute a variety of forms of stealing formerly treated as distinct crimes.
Copyrighted works could be considered property OR services.
The rationalization on this issue has reached a new height. I can't believe we are actually discussing whether this should be called "theft" or not.
As mentioned by one of the other posters...all crimes are artificial.
Many have made the claim that it is not "theft". Actually, even in the eyes of the law it is "theft". Please see the "No Electronic Theft" act at Department of Justice Website.
Even though I believe the "it's not theft, it's copyright infringement" argument to be bunk, this act clearly defines it as "theft". In a legal sense.
They aren't "customers" if they steal the product that the record companies are producing.
Who else do you suggest suing? Seriously? Who?
If you owned a company, and your product was being liberated without your consent, who would you go after? The local fire department? George W. Bush? Circus monkeys?
The question people should be asking is "when a business model breaks, do you blame your customers, or your business strategy?"
It isn't the customers that "broke" the business model. It's the people who are "stealing".
It doesn't matter whether the legal term is "stealing" or copyright infringement. It's still using something that doesn't belong to you in an illegal manner.
I give up on this path...it is apparent I'm dealing with a bunch of techie thiefs.
This is modded as insightful? You're kidding, right?
It isn't "sharing". It's called "stealing".
Parent poster: The RIAA doesn't own the music. They don't collect 90% of the fees. In fact, they don't collect any fees. ASCAP/SESAC/BMI do. But that's for public performances.
Not sure if 40GB's were around in '98. If they were, they would certainly be hard to find in Afghanistan.
The thing is, just because there were emails on the computer that were written in '98, that doesn't mean the hard drive is that old.
If you read the article, you'd know that the IT guy kept everything organized quite well (until his arrest) and probably was able to figure out how to export old emails. The info was likely transferred from an older computer.
Still, a 40GB hard drive in 2001 does seem out of place. Computers were apparently VERY hard to come by in Afghanistan at the time.
While witty, I think the previous post should not slip by without comment.
I have said the very same thing about the Linux platform. It doesn't have the applications that I need. Those that are available are in a pre-beta phase as opposed to the Windows platform software.
I find it ironic that the poster has "Linux or Death (Muerte)" in their signature. The Linux fanatics here at Slashdot are so blinded by their allegience to the product, that they fail to remember one of the primary reasons for support of alternative operating systems.
Apparently it is ok to support alternative OS's. Just as long as it is Linux.
http://forums.mozillazine.org/viewforum.php?f=38 The.9 release is a disaster IMHO. I had to manually edit a preferences file with the text editor to get it to event start up. There are many other bugs in this release. It is FAR from being bug free.
I've gone back to Opera. Maybe in a few months I'll be back.
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Although much beloved here at Slashdot, Google is not open source. They are a private, for-profit corporation that happens to have some free APIs. Putting Google and Mozilla in the same category is disingenuous.
How sad it is that the fight over music usage rights eclipses war profiteering by Haliburton.
I just dialed 933 on my Vonage phone and got a pre-recorded message. The message stated that the 911 location service was ENABLED on my phone. However, I needed to check the Vonage dashboard to see what address it actually routes too. Wouldn't it be a good idea for Vonage to implement this: 1) Dial 933 2) Automated responses... a) telephone number b) enable/disable status c) address d) where the 911 calls will route to
A flash would alert others that you are making a call. Not the ideal solution if you are trying to call the police on an intruder.
The project site is: http://www.hymn-project.org/jhymndoc/ It has already been slashdotted.
War drivers...I see a road trip in our future!
Someone that STEALS your product is not a thief.
1) How about putting together a coherent sentence in the first place? Burning and ripping are two different things. Apparently you're confused by that simple concept.
2) You're right. It's just plain lunacy to attempt to enforce a law.
3) Just because you don't like the artists that are at the top of the charts, that gives you the right to steal their product?
I would like to thank you for letting me use your girlfriend. I like this new world order where everything that's mine is mine, and everything that's your's is mine.
Oh, and thanks for letting me use your car, bank account, dog, printer, and monkey.
Hey that's a good idea. Maybe we could even transmit it over the airwaves so people can receive it in their vehicles. We could call it r...a...d...
Oh wait....
Even when presented with the fact that the crime is LEGALLY defined as theft, there's still the naysayers. I will refer back to dictionary.com's definition:
Main Entry: theft Function: noun Etymology: Old English thiefth : LARCENY; broadly : a criminal taking of the property or services of another without consent NOTE: Theft commonly encompasses by statute a variety of forms of stealing formerly treated as distinct crimes.
Copyrighted works could be considered property OR services.
The rationalization on this issue has reached a new height. I can't believe we are actually discussing whether this should be called "theft" or not.
As mentioned by one of the other posters...all crimes are artificial.
Many have made the claim that it is not "theft". Actually, even in the eyes of the law it is "theft". Please see the "No Electronic Theft" act at Department of Justice Website.
Even though I believe the "it's not theft, it's copyright infringement" argument to be bunk, this act clearly defines it as "theft". In a legal sense.
They aren't "customers" if they steal the product that the record companies are producing. Who else do you suggest suing? Seriously? Who? If you owned a company, and your product was being liberated without your consent, who would you go after? The local fire department? George W. Bush? Circus monkeys?
You're right. 95% of the market doesn't count as being at the forefront.
The question people should be asking is "when a business model breaks, do you blame your customers, or your business strategy?"
It isn't the customers that "broke" the business model. It's the people who are "stealing".
It doesn't matter whether the legal term is "stealing" or copyright infringement. It's still using something that doesn't belong to you in an illegal manner.
I give up on this path...it is apparent I'm dealing with a bunch of techie thiefs.
So...you're saying P2P wouldn't have been developed if the Record Companies had implemented a 99 center per song download service?
Really. Microsoft was the at the forefront of OS's, but Linux still managed to be developed.
Saying P2P wouldn't have been developed is the most ridiculous thing I've read all day.
This is modded as insightful? You're kidding, right?
It isn't "sharing". It's called "stealing".
Parent poster: The RIAA doesn't own the music. They don't collect 90% of the fees. In fact, they don't collect any fees. ASCAP/SESAC/BMI do. But that's for public performances.
RIAA failed when they tried to stop MP3s instead of being the originators of an online MP3 service
#1) The RIAA is an enforcement agency. That is what they do. They do not distibute works.
#2) Please tell me how ANY business model can compete with FREE distribution.
You apparently failed to read the article. The emails were encrypted and cloaked. RTFA. :)
Not sure if 40GB's were around in '98. If they were, they would certainly be hard to find in Afghanistan. The thing is, just because there were emails on the computer that were written in '98, that doesn't mean the hard drive is that old. If you read the article, you'd know that the IT guy kept everything organized quite well (until his arrest) and probably was able to figure out how to export old emails. The info was likely transferred from an older computer. Still, a 40GB hard drive in 2001 does seem out of place. Computers were apparently VERY hard to come by in Afghanistan at the time.
While witty, I think the previous post should not slip by without comment.
I have said the very same thing about the Linux platform. It doesn't have the applications that I need. Those that are available are in a pre-beta phase as opposed to the Windows platform software.
I find it ironic that the poster has "Linux or Death (Muerte)" in their signature. The Linux fanatics here at Slashdot are so blinded by their allegience to the product, that they fail to remember one of the primary reasons for support of alternative operating systems.
Apparently it is ok to support alternative OS's. Just as long as it is Linux.
http://forums.mozillazine.org/viewforum.php?f=38
.9 release is a disaster IMHO. I had to manually edit a preferences file with the text editor to get it to event start up. There are many other bugs in this release. It is FAR from being bug free.
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I've gone back to Opera. Maybe in a few months I'll be back.