DRM has no place in an election. DRM is about restricting the rights of a computer owner. WiMP, for example, has DRM but the OS that uses it is still unfit for network use. DRM is not what the local election commission needs to keep elections honest.
DRM of the TCPA sort (e.g. making sure that only authorised software (say, checked with private keys) can run on the machine) most likely would help. Software changed, doesn't authenticate? Machine refuses to start.
We're not talking about the sort of DRM that is applied to music here, this is a different kind.
GPL V3 does not keep people from checking the version of their packages. It's only a GPL violation if you keep the user from modifying or changing their own software.
No, the GP wanted to know if it was OK for FLOSS to check with the voting machine (or the other way round) whether it was authorised using private keys . My understanding of this is that the GPLv3 would disallow this.
That's what package checks, like those used by Debian, are good for. A state or county can set up a package repository and be sure that any qualified technician can get and install it without trouble.
That makes no sense. That doesn't ensure that the packages are the correct, authorised versions, just that the correct, authorised version is version x.y.z. It wouldn't do jack shit to make sure that the voting machines were running the correct, unmodified software.
(Note: I am no fan of Diebold in the slightest, either.)
no u. In that list you deliberately ignored the meaning of many of those posts and included many which weren't insulting or denigrating to you in the slightest in order to paint me as a "troll".
Of course they fucking are! It's called "being a competitor"!
"Third party patches" are just another competition for them to destroy.
Yes. Of course, twitter.
By the way, I and a few others were wondering whether you'd mind responding to this, or maybe this. An admission that you were talking bullshit on that last one would be nice.
Eh, they're not really used in a pornographic/sexual context. Well, I hope not, anyway.
Of course you're not. You happened by 4chan completely by accident, have never looked at any boards besides/b/, and keep on watching it just because of funny animal pictures. And to laugh at the sad geeks without lives who drool over the stuff.
Actually...yeah. You're dead on. You were being sarcastic...but it was dead on.
Yes, Keith Russell has 293 accounts, all registered for the sole purpose of harassing you. I myself am just about everyone on Slashdot apart from Tripmaster Monkey, you and Keith's 293 accounts, and sublease these accounts to Microsoft so they can pay lots of Indian people to constantly debunk your rants. This doesn't appear in their annual report because they got the Illuminati to magic it away into Never Never Land, so nobody will know. I am extremely rich out of my deal with Microsoft (putting the $ in M$, so to speak) and live in a big mansion with my 1000-strong harem, my monkey butlers, personal brewery and Windows logo shaped swimming pool. Come visit some time, it's at 1 Jesusfuckingchristyoureamoron Lane, Bullshit City, FU.
I know you're not very good at telling, I dunno, jokes from insults, so I'll just point out that the above was sarcastic.
I wasn't bashing you in the slightest in that post. And yes, I do hate YouTube, because it's a pile of shit. Nice technology, horrible contents.
Slashdot is stupid and sucks because it does not agree with jb.
It's called a joke. Jesus christ.
Plain bullshit to waste time.
Um...you suggested a Google search appliance, I pointed out a reason that one wouldn't be a good idea or suited to the BBC's needs. Where's the problem again?
Pure hate. [Don't bother using reason and logic. He's laughing at you, dedazo.;)]
A joke. Again. With the person who I was replying to, dedazo, who hopefully got it.
Advocating Windoze Media and general insults.
No, I wasn't "advocating Windoze Media" (as if that's a crime), just pointing out that the BBC might want to partner with a company with a wide install base for its media player...or they might not. And the only "insult" (not "insults", there was only one thing in that post specifically directed at you) was "Fucking hell, you've reached a whole new low." in response to you calling Microsoft "the forces of evil" as well as your M$ bollocks.
Death threat
"Your life most likely does depend on it." That wasn't a death threat, nor would any normal person construe it as such in relation to your post. My point was that if you don't vote, your life may well be in threat because of various factors (war on terror etc). Clutched at any straws lately?
More harassment.
Yeah, that really was just saying that your post wasn't funny. Nothing else, really.
A post without insult...1/100
You only say that because I agreed with you.
More abuse (x3)
OK, let's get this straight. You repost a comment verbatim to get karma because your other one got modded down, I point that out; it's "abuse". You accuse me of being employed by Microsoft, even though I have said in a few past posts that I work in a chain store, and also accuse me of modding down your posts, even though that's completely impossible as I'd already posted. I point out that neither of those things are true, that's "abuse". What the fuck are you smoking?
Trying to figure out who Twitter is.
Um...right. So you're going to deny specifically that the site I linked to is yours are you? Because it fits damn well.
If you don't work for Microsoft, you waste a lot of time hating without compensation. How pathetic.
I could twist that around; you spend a lot of time bashing Microsoft without compensation, which has to be at least as pathetic, if not more so, especially since you appear completely without a rational thought in your head.
Right, listen twitter, you have just hopped directly over the line from being a misguided if slightly malicious Linux zealot into being an ignorant, hypocritical and downright lying cunt.
First off, stop referring to yourself in the third person. I don't know what it's supposed to achieve, it might be so that people who skim posts without reading who they're by think that you have lots of supporters. The fact you removed your sticks-out-like-a-sore-thumb sig recently gives a little credence to this. Either that or you've got multiple personality disorder, and I don't think you have MPD.
Representing a good portion of someone's life?! If he only, as you falsely claim, posts when you do, then he's spent roughly the same portion of his life "stalking" you that you have posting your FUD, lies and baseless accusations in any article with even a fleeting reference to Microsoft (and even a few with none). But of course, if it's in support of the "cause" then I'm sure that FUD, lies and baseless accusations are fine by you.
There's nothing truthful or rational in your posts either. Accusing people of being paid Microsoft astroturfers is bad enough, but then going out of your way to blame Microsoft for, among other things, fax machines not being popular is just the cherry on the cake. As for disrupting honest conversation, what about you reposting any comments that get modded down (and with your karma bonus, that means three independent people would be needed to mod you down to -1, and with Slashdot's moderation system being the way it is the moderators are likely to be very different from one day to the next) and, in general, posting long, stupid rants, backed up with nothing but a handful of Slashdot articles which themselves link to sites like LinuxWorld and peppered with phrases like "M$" and "Windoze" which even the most immature of script kiddies gave up on years ago.
Before you go around slinging shit at other people, make sure you're thoroughly shit free yourself. And no, fuck you. You are the problem here. You are the one who takes a liking for an operating system to a near religious fanaticism, you are the one who will promote anything "free" even when it does not suit someone's needs, you are the one who posts idiotic conspiracy theories about people who call you out on the bullshit you spread daily. And when I reply to insult someone, twitter, at least I have the balls to log in to do it.
1) I haven't had mod points in ages. And I posted in this discussion, so I wouldn't have been able to do any moderation anyway. 2) I'm about as far from being employed by Microsoft as someone could possibly be. Sorry to spoil your parade.
I don't see a need for co-operation with M$ on this one
Um...most people have the ability to play Windows Media files at some level (yes, even on Linux, try VideoLAN). That might be why. Maybe Microsoft will help with Dirac? Long shot, but stranger things have happened. We know nothing about what's in the memo, so speculation on this front is more or less unfounded anyway.
Their current lack of such nonsense [DRM] is why it's the most read English language news in the world.
I would have thought it would be the "impartiality decreed and enforced by law" thing which people around the world seem to value.
You want the BBC to partner with Google rather than Microsoft...to what end? Other than distribution, Google has nothing to bring to the table, and the BBC already has perfectly good distribution channels, Internet and otherwise. And if they just wanted more bandwidth, load balancing etc, they might as well just use Akamai.
Amarok would be overkill. You make a fair point though, there should be support for music players other than iPods, however iPods shouldn't be left out either.
It's a copy of a recording of a song. The encoding is not the issue. Claiming that an MP3 is a "recipe" for a song is silly and disingenuous. It doesn't matter if a song is in MP3, CDDA, tape, vinyl, wax cylinders or whatever; it's a copy of a recording of a song.
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DRM has no place in an election. DRM is about restricting the rights of a computer owner. WiMP, for example, has DRM but the OS that uses it is still unfit for network use. DRM is not what the local election commission needs to keep elections honest.
DRM of the TCPA sort (e.g. making sure that only authorised software (say, checked with private keys) can run on the machine) most likely would help. Software changed, doesn't authenticate? Machine refuses to start.
We're not talking about the sort of DRM that is applied to music here, this is a different kind.
GPL V3 does not keep people from checking the version of their packages. It's only a GPL violation if you keep the user from modifying or changing their own software.
No, the GP wanted to know if it was OK for FLOSS to check with the voting machine (or the other way round) whether it was authorised using private keys . My understanding of this is that the GPLv3 would disallow this.
That's what package checks, like those used by Debian, are good for. A state or county can set up a package repository and be sure that any qualified technician can get and install it without trouble.
That makes no sense. That doesn't ensure that the packages are the correct, authorised versions, just that the correct, authorised version is version x.y.z. It wouldn't do jack shit to make sure that the voting machines were running the correct, unmodified software.
(Note: I am no fan of Diebold in the slightest, either.)
no u. In that list you deliberately ignored the meaning of many of those posts and included many which weren't insulting or denigrating to you in the slightest in order to paint me as a "troll".
You never change, do you twitter?
[Microsoft] is hostile [to] alternatives
Of course they fucking are! It's called "being a competitor"!
"Third party patches" are just another competition for them to destroy.
Yes. Of course, twitter.
By the way, I and a few others were wondering whether you'd mind responding to this, or maybe this. An admission that you were talking bullshit on that last one would be nice.
And OS-tans ? What's your take on them ?
/b/, and keep on watching it just because of funny animal pictures. And to laugh at the sad geeks without lives who drool over the stuff.
Eh, they're not really used in a pornographic/sexual context. Well, I hope not, anyway.
Of course you're not. You happened by 4chan completely by accident, have never looked at any boards besides
Actually...yeah. You're dead on. You were being sarcastic...but it was dead on.
Yes, Keith Russell has 293 accounts, all registered for the sole purpose of harassing you. I myself am just about everyone on Slashdot apart from Tripmaster Monkey, you and Keith's 293 accounts, and sublease these accounts to Microsoft so they can pay lots of Indian people to constantly debunk your rants. This doesn't appear in their annual report because they got the Illuminati to magic it away into Never Never Land, so nobody will know. I am extremely rich out of my deal with Microsoft (putting the $ in M$, so to speak) and live in a big mansion with my 1000-strong harem, my monkey butlers, personal brewery and Windows logo shaped swimming pool. Come visit some time, it's at 1 Jesusfuckingchristyoureamoron Lane, Bullshit City, FU.
I know you're not very good at telling, I dunno, jokes from insults, so I'll just point out that the above was sarcastic.
OK, I'll bite.
;)]
Hates YouTube.
I wasn't bashing you in the slightest in that post. And yes, I do hate YouTube, because it's a pile of shit. Nice technology, horrible contents.
Slashdot is stupid and sucks because it does not agree with jb.
It's called a joke. Jesus christ.
Plain bullshit to waste time.
Um...you suggested a Google search appliance, I pointed out a reason that one wouldn't be a good idea or suited to the BBC's needs. Where's the problem again?
Pure hate. [Don't bother using reason and logic. He's laughing at you, dedazo.
A joke. Again. With the person who I was replying to, dedazo, who hopefully got it.
Advocating Windoze Media and general insults.
No, I wasn't "advocating Windoze Media" (as if that's a crime), just pointing out that the BBC might want to partner with a company with a wide install base for its media player...or they might not. And the only "insult" (not "insults", there was only one thing in that post specifically directed at you) was "Fucking hell, you've reached a whole new low." in response to you calling Microsoft "the forces of evil" as well as your M$ bollocks.
Death threat
"Your life most likely does depend on it." That wasn't a death threat, nor would any normal person construe it as such in relation to your post. My point was that if you don't vote, your life may well be in threat because of various factors (war on terror etc). Clutched at any straws lately?
More harassment.
Yeah, that really was just saying that your post wasn't funny. Nothing else, really.
A post without insult...1/100
You only say that because I agreed with you.
More abuse (x3)
OK, let's get this straight. You repost a comment verbatim to get karma because your other one got modded down, I point that out; it's "abuse". You accuse me of being employed by Microsoft, even though I have said in a few past posts that I work in a chain store, and also accuse me of modding down your posts, even though that's completely impossible as I'd already posted. I point out that neither of those things are true, that's "abuse". What the fuck are you smoking?
Trying to figure out who Twitter is.
Um...right. So you're going to deny specifically that the site I linked to is yours are you? Because it fits damn well.
If you don't work for Microsoft, you waste a lot of time hating without compensation. How pathetic.
I could twist that around; you spend a lot of time bashing Microsoft without compensation, which has to be at least as pathetic, if not more so, especially since you appear completely without a rational thought in your head.
Why ? Is drooling over a web browser mascot somehow inherently worse than drooling over cartoon characters ?
It edges out ever so slightly. And I'll make it clear now I'm no fan of anime, hentai or any other related shite either.
I just think it goes slightly over the line from "geeky" into "just plain weird".
Isn't he just. He can talk bullshit about something he knows nothing about and get modded up for it (then again, this is Slashdot ;)
Right, listen twitter, you have just hopped directly over the line from being a misguided if slightly malicious Linux zealot into being an ignorant, hypocritical and downright lying cunt.
First off, stop referring to yourself in the third person. I don't know what it's supposed to achieve, it might be so that people who skim posts without reading who they're by think that you have lots of supporters. The fact you removed your sticks-out-like-a-sore-thumb sig recently gives a little credence to this. Either that or you've got multiple personality disorder, and I don't think you have MPD.
Representing a good portion of someone's life?! If he only, as you falsely claim, posts when you do, then he's spent roughly the same portion of his life "stalking" you that you have posting your FUD, lies and baseless accusations in any article with even a fleeting reference to Microsoft (and even a few with none). But of course, if it's in support of the "cause" then I'm sure that FUD, lies and baseless accusations are fine by you.
There's nothing truthful or rational in your posts either. Accusing people of being paid Microsoft astroturfers is bad enough, but then going out of your way to blame Microsoft for, among other things, fax machines not being popular is just the cherry on the cake. As for disrupting honest conversation, what about you reposting any comments that get modded down (and with your karma bonus, that means three independent people would be needed to mod you down to -1, and with Slashdot's moderation system being the way it is the moderators are likely to be very different from one day to the next) and, in general, posting long, stupid rants, backed up with nothing but a handful of Slashdot articles which themselves link to sites like LinuxWorld and peppered with phrases like "M$" and "Windoze" which even the most immature of script kiddies gave up on years ago.
Before you go around slinging shit at other people, make sure you're thoroughly shit free yourself. And no, fuck you . You are the problem here. You are the one who takes a liking for an operating system to a near religious fanaticism, you are the one who will promote anything "free" even when it does not suit someone's needs, you are the one who posts idiotic conspiracy theories about people who call you out on the bullshit you spread daily. And when I reply to insult someone, twitter, at least I have the balls to log in to do it.
I'm a regular 4chan /b/* reader, and that managed to actually gross me out more than anything I've seen on /b/. I mean, it's just a fucking web browser.
/b/. Am I being stupid by not posting this anonymously? ;)
* Yes, just
DING DING!
:)
Nicely put.
If Microsoft did actually make a bid for YouTube, the world's largest repository of bullshit, they probably would be morons.
I'm sure the BBC would prefer something more geared to video and towards their needs than just a Google search appliance.
Don't bother using reason and logic. He's laughing at you, dedazo. ;)
And wait a minute, you call me pathetic? You're the one who posted a dupe comment because you got modded down!
HAHAHA! HAHA!
Oh god. You kill me, sometimes.
1) I haven't had mod points in ages. And I posted in this discussion, so I wouldn't have been able to do any moderation anyway.
2) I'm about as far from being employed by Microsoft as someone could possibly be. Sorry to spoil your parade.
Watch, listen, read and vote in November as if your life depends upon it.
Your life most likely does depend on it.
An agreement between the UK
No. Between the BBC and Microsoft. Not the UK.
the forces of Evil (M$)
Fucking hell, you've reached a whole new low.
I don't see a need for co-operation with M$ on this one
Um...most people have the ability to play Windows Media files at some level (yes, even on Linux, try VideoLAN). That might be why. Maybe Microsoft will help with Dirac? Long shot, but stranger things have happened. We know nothing about what's in the memo, so speculation on this front is more or less unfounded anyway.
Their current lack of such nonsense [DRM] is why it's the most read English language news in the world.
I would have thought it would be the "impartiality decreed and enforced by law" thing which people around the world seem to value.
You want the BBC to partner with Google rather than Microsoft...to what end? Other than distribution, Google has nothing to bring to the table, and the BBC already has perfectly good distribution channels, Internet and otherwise. And if they just wanted more bandwidth, load balancing etc, they might as well just use Akamai.
Talk about hindsight being 20/20...
"Hilarity" and "YouTube" do not belong in the same sentence.
Was this another one of your HI-LARIOUS attempts at humour, twitter?
Btw, nice dig at Vista's speech recognition; could you care to point me to all the OSS speech recognition software that works so much better?
Do you think in the US and the current copyright system most artists have that right now? Because most artists don't feel that way.
Citation, please.
The ability for me to copy or repeat anything I see and hear is a natural right.
So is control over what you make. Copyright was created to balance the two.
Amarok would be overkill. You make a fair point though, there should be support for music players other than iPods, however iPods shouldn't be left out either.
It's a copy of a recording of a song. The encoding is not the issue. Claiming that an MP3 is a "recipe" for a song is silly and disingenuous. It doesn't matter if a song is in MP3, CDDA, tape, vinyl, wax cylinders or whatever; it's a copy of a recording of a song.