You message is interesting. I cannot say that I agree, but I would like to hear more. Please expand on your idea and cover the basic points that you are making. Maybe we can address them.
I'm not sure you have the right idea, or understand the history of much of the softrware you use today. The IBM/Intel PC for one was built on some interesting reverse engineering. We have been blessed with a rather good home computer market, just because of that.
I know you feel the need to complain, and I'm sure we'd all like to listen.
We, the public...the people of the USA are defended by the simple fact that if we pay for it we own it. If we own it, we may do with it what we will. This has held true for a very very long period of time. Without this simple fact we'd stagnate and lose our edge in the world market. We'd also have government and lawyers in our homes bugging us while we are sitting on the can.
So, my questions are:
How is this different than what Microsoft tried to do to Slashdot?
Did the people doing the work on these drivers sign a contract with the company who made them?
What is their legal basis, and how to they legally defend their stance?
Where can I get a copy of this code to through up on a mirror site?
We must stand and fight for liberty. If we don't we've lost before we've started. In a fight some will be put to the test. Taken to court, lose proptery, and so on. We have to except that. We kind of world do we want to leave to our chuildern? Please stand strong and don't back down.
PS: This message is protected by the DMCA. It is also a letter to my legal counsel.
I interviewed with a company, which also required an NDA. During the interview they asked me about some of my experence. I explained some of the things I had done in the past, and they said "Really? That's what we're doing."
So, I asked about the NDA. What was the need for it? Well, it was required to have people sign it to impress would be investors, or for an IPO.
I was offered, but did not take the job.
-- James Dornan -- Teaching plants to grow, and take over!
This sounds like a good project, and you seem to know what you are talking about. What do you say to lending a hand and working on this? I'd be willing to help.
Mr Moody,
Linux Zealot?
I do not like that term. It is often uttered by people who wish to discredit a reply before it is offered. Maybe I don't use Linux, but happen to disagree with Mr Moody's "new math." Well, then like a witch hunting congressman from the 40's he'll just classify me.
The word Zealot most easily applied to Mr Moody. He has said what he has to adance some goal he seems tightly wound around.
If I protested what was being done to the native americans, I would be branded as an 'Indian Lover'. If I didn't like what the House Unamerican Affair Commity was doing to people's lives I'd be called a commie. If I was German and protested what was happening to the Jews diring the 40's I'd have been called a jew lover.
It's not as extreme in this case, but it's a tactic used often to discredit a reasonable argument before it's made, by discrediting anyone to offten a differing point of view.
In this sense Mr Moody is the worst of cowards. Aside from not being able to add, he lacks the ability to except other's opinions.
I don't know Mr Moody. He could be a nice guy, or someone who kicks puppies for fun. Maybe he just had a bad day and make an error in judgement by pissing away some of his creditablity.
All I do know is, that he seems to be very wrong. I know from his other writings that he is smart. This means there was an agenda attached to his misinformation. Maybe he'll apologize and hope the whole thing goes away. It's not going to. I'll remember this, and ignore any other writings of his and all his furture opinions.
I myself use Linux, NT, and many oter operating systems. I do know that the free stuff sticks around longer than the not free stuff. After all SNA, IPX/SPX, Apple Talk, and a host of other network standards died while TCP/IP stuck around. Linux was here before, and will be here long after, NT ot Microsoft. After all Unix out lasted it's birth company, Unix Systems Labs(not Bell Labs,which is still here). Knowing what will be here a good twenty years from now is what got me into the TCP/IP, Linux, Web, SQL, business.
Mr Moody, I do have an agenda. Right now it's to get to the gym, work with tools I like, have a great job, raise my kids to be honest. I trust my opinions over your's. I have not been wrong at any turn in my career. You my friend ring hollow.
Again, it's not worth the price that was paid. Yes, it's known that it's common for bribery to be used. Just look at the olympics. This does not justify the US's actions and the fact that the US sunk to a lower level than bribery.
The price is simple. We cannot and should never trust our goverment's hidden actions and deeds. We should never be content not knowing, or sinking to that level.
I thik your support of a spying government is a foolish thing. I hope you realize that you will also be spied on. If you have childern, so will they.
I think the Hitler summed it up best "Only the guilty have something to hide." He used that phrase to gain access to the homes of some of the political compition. He used that power to bully more power.
It's still far more power than any government should be trusted with. I'm sure that time will tell. I am equally sure that you will see that this is a very bad pill my friend.
The RIAA is acting like those people who never wanted the car to make it to the mass market. Fine, they wont enter the digital universe. I guess that's just the way it's going to be.
There are many great artists out there who will never be signed. They will find the digital medium friendly and waiting. I look forward to hearing from them. So, no more RIAA artists in Napster. Good, I'll get the chence to hear something new.
I was lucky when growing up. I lived in an area with a great number of bands. I grew up in an area called Isla Vista, CA, an area where most UCSB students lived. A great place to spend a childhood.
The bands that were there were great. They would play in backyard, and converted barns, and so on. I loved it. They were never going to be signed. After all the drummer was getting a degree in biology of cancer. He was not going to be in the band for the rest of his life, nor was the rest of the band. Not all the bands were good, but most were, or at least has some great songs.
It's better to see bands like those live, but why not have bands all over the world just put music on the web. People are downloading, and paying for Kings new book online. Why not music.
The RIAA is old world. They are like the old Holliwood studios. They want CONTROL. Control over artists, control over the music, and it seem control over the customer.
Now they have forced us to think about the issues. Maybe even to out grow them, and leave them in the past. We need to think about how much control an artist should have over a song once they allow it out into the public, out of their control.
We're now thinking about copyrights is a different light then before. We should look to the people who invented copyright to see their advise from the past.
Would people feel the same it there was a service which would allow people to read the books in my library, like maybe a library?
But to sum up my crazy pre-coffee rant, we need to look at music which is not RIAA controled. I'm betting that there is something amazing out there.
When speaking of the founding father if the states I spoke of the dream they had, of an ideal. Their idea of who controled the government, who voted, may not have been all inclusive, but we have expanded that scope to how it was written.
As for them keeping slaves, that is something which I'm sure most people cannot agree with. They also had a large number of habits, personal, public, and socially exceptable at the time. They smoked things and snorted thing I'm sure some people do not agree with.
In the end they wrote down a document which include freedom for all, which included an ideal. Something more than just the simple words. It was something worth dying for. People did, and more than once.
I like the idea of US companies earnig their way into the world market without my having to pay for a spy system. A spy system that is being put to more uses than you are told about.
Let's forget about human rights and such. Just tell me what is being done with all that information they collect. I doubt you know and I doubt you could prove it in any case.
The truth is that it's a closed system, with some information going to some companies to compete unfairly in the world market. Who pick which company gets the information? As a closed system, those who control the government are powerless to say no. We are being left out of a country which we own and have paid for, and keep paying for in taxes and blood.
No matter what you say it's all just speculation seeing as you are in the dark. I'm in the dark also. I just don't pretend it's a good thing.
I paid for that, and you might have also.
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Items like this have a cost in, building, maintaining, and expanding. This system, I'm am very sure, it also keeping track of efforts to avoid it's watchfull eye.
When we speak about PGP or using encryption to keep our conversions secret, the NSA is listening. I'm sure they claim this is a valuable service.
It reminds me of something I once saw at a large company. There was a man high up in management who had little to do and few people working for him. He wanted to change this, so he had a plan to inclease his value to the company. He hired some lawyers and asked that all documents, internal and external, went through his department to make sure that there was nothing in those documents that could hurt the company legally.
This seemed like a good service to the company and it only required two lawyers. Well as the company was forced, and got used to, sending their document to these two lawyer there was far too much work. So the manager asked for more lawyer, because the demand was too high. And so on...
His empire withing the company grew and grew. He has added many other non value added services to his group, and I assume will continue to.
This sort of activity is know as "Justifying your position" or "Making yourself needed" This guy knew nothing other than how to make the company feel he was needed and providing a needed service. In reality the internal news letter never had andproblems and never would. The NSA is "Justifying their position."
The NSA and other organizations can spy on people to the Nth degree, and they might find something. They then often keep that information secret from the people paying them, but let higher ups in the goverment know. This information makes these people feel important, and maybe protect there jobs.
In the meantime, we have done this spying by trampling the good names of those who broke from such a spying goverment to found the US. We have teken the values that they penned with wisedom for us all to read, and now claim that they do not appliy to everyone, or all the time.
See under the US constitution you have rights. These are rights which we agree on one day belong to every single person. Human right. On an other day, during a war or a day when oil is lacking, or when a US company wants a contract over a French company, those rights don't apply. Seme people are more equal that others it seem.
Once we drew the line and said that one some days others (outside the US) don't the same freedoms and right under the US government, it was easy to slowly claim our own people didn't have rights also.
Where does that leave us, the peole of the world. If you live in the US your are automatically part of the goverment. After all it's "We the people." If the goverment does something monsterous, then it's because you sat back and let it happen. You are lazy because it's only happening to those people over there, or maybe just to the people down the street. Well now it's happening to you, and you just sit there and hope it does not stop Monday night sports.
I live in the US. I've lived here my entire life. The US should be held to the standards of our fouders, and nothing less. How have we honored their ideals. The same ideals that gave us this country and the American dream of living free. I do not include being spied on one of the freedoms our counties founder envisioned.
Unless the people of the US get off their fat asses and do something, they are to blame. Not the goverenment, because we are the goernment. We paid for it, and let it happen. If we were not told that means little seeing as we choose not to ask.
The buck does not stop with the leaders in DC. That is a lie. We put that person there. The president might be the countries leader, but we are his rulers. We let him know what can and cannot be done. If we are quite the world can assume correctly that we areee with the monsterous deeds of our goverment.
Well that is really not going to be as much of a problem, as time goes on. What will be the problem is, as time goes on, if only authorized people are allowed to make and sell DVD players then the large studios will be able to change the player to only play Holliwood big releases.
I sure as hell cannot state that as a fact, but it does seem to fit nicely.
On the subject of "What's the problem?" What is the problem with just anyone making a DVD player? Wouldn't that make more money for the large studios. It would expand their market to have a more DVD players out there. So what's the problem?
I hate the idea of a hangup. I live with my girlfriend, who's ex kidnapped her little boy. It's been ten years and it's few people who can understand what she has been through. I knew her before and after the kidnapping. It took a huge toll on her.
After the kidnapping, even now, she gets hangups. These calls bring on a nightmare for her. Her ex likes to call up and bother her. He knows the police and FBI cannot find him. He calls for only a few seconds without saying a thing, then hangs up.
Now many companies, not just ABC are doing the recorded message bullshit. It's made life a living hell. I not only stopped watching cable, but got rid of cable all together because they are a group of inhuman maximized profits. Ok, I'm ranting, but I'm mad. Forgive me.
We need a good way to fool these machines into thinking that there is a person there, so they hang up and don't leave a message. How does one hack a solution?
I think you will be just as surprised, as people where to see so many horse-less carages, in such a short period of time.
You and I should agree to disagree. I think I have a good idea of where tech will go and what it will do. A feeling. A hunch. But also backed up by a trend that shows no signs of ending.
I'm sure that the Voyager golden disk it doing fine. We just need to carve digital information into someting that does not give it up esily.
I am not inclined to think that Star Trek transporters are coming soon. I'm sure that there are people who think that. That is outlandish and/or a bit crazy. I think these people should hold onto their dreams, though. I do, however, think that man will find a way to write a one and zero on something that will last longer than a cave painting, and soon.
Meanwhile, South Park is still copying and nothing has changed. It's not often that I have to move a file from one disk, tape, or CD, to an other. I've moved my files only about twice, so on the South Park scale I can do that about 1000 times(so far). If I only do this once every five years, I'll be set.
So, you see. My home movies written to DVD will last a while, as will my photos, and copies of the VHS tapes I now own (once I convert them, assuming there is a DVD writer).
The MPAA fears control because they fear the customer. Once you give something out to the public, control if something you can never have. That is a fact. They should never have control over what I do with somethig I purchase, for my own personal use. Will they soon try and chanrge extra if you have more people watching the rented movie? No. If they could they would.
You might be able to get a wide screen TV, but as far as the MPAA is concerned when it comes to using the DVD movie, your rights don't fit in the picture.
Ok, I have now backed up and restored South Park's original Spirit of Christmas to DLT about 80 times. So far not a single bit has flipped. This will continue in a loop, but I think that if a 50MB movie can be copied that many time and nothing happens, we are safe.
The storage medium is getting better. Hell that it one of the reasons I was holding my breath waiting for DVDs. I wanrted a better, longer lasting, digital medium. There are even disks now that will last over 10,000 years. I re-call that there was a story about this on Slashdot some time ago.
So, seeing as right now the there are disks that could out live recorded history, I think my scanned in photo will be fine. In fact they'll out live you and me.
Ye, of little faith. You'd have more if you'd read more Slashdot.:)
I have has that there for a while. I too see that the DMCA is the last nail for many who only want to make small productions. If the DVD format is a licensed format, lecensed by the studios what chance does the little guy have.
This is an era where we can record our own music, edit our own video, digitize voice and pictures for future generations. Digital formats will last. The medium will change, but things can be copied from disk to disk. The quality will never go down.
We see this imortality of data as a boon, but studios don't. Studios see it as a loss. With analog formats there was lifespan to a movie, and copies lost quality.
Our boon is, by their definition, is the studio's loss. I don't think they will lose anything if the DVD format is open. I think that there will still be people small time productions, if it's open, and some control will be lost, but it's control they should never have had.
It's time we hacked the law, and exposed laws that protect corperate "freedom" by tossing the freedom of the people in the trash. If keeping the DVD format and platform closed is the only thing keeping American culture alive, then I for one think it should die. A more interesting culture will rise up. The one that exisited before large studios killed American culture.
Let's find out who voted away our freedom when they voted for laws to protect these closed formats. Let's publish the original notes and ideas of the people who pen the original copyright laws. Let's dumb things down forthe press. Let's PR our cause.
People who want to maintain the freedom that their parents fought for, have to keep up the fight. That is a war that never ends. Someone is always attacking freedom, just not always with a gun.
Well, ok, they will for a long time. For all I know it could be as long as people are around.
Her is why...
1) Companies dealin in Oil and Gas are in, in with government, in with big money. They are here to stay. 2) Patents. They are purchased buy big money and issued by governments. Basically a suspect of corupt system. 3) Secondary market. Gas companies followers ( sometime mindless) are dealerships, can companies, independantly owned gas stations, and a number of fearful legons. The sort of people who, through greed and fear, are selling our childern's future away.
There could be more to this list, but that's the meat. Please feel free to add to it. I know it's not easy. It's like Linux vs Microsoft. At least Microsoft was asleep at the wheel during some of the battles. The oil companies will not be.
PS: I had read that all high rankig CIA agent, when leaving the CIA, had gone to work for US oil companies. I read this is a book by Jim Mars a Texas reporter and researcher. Is that true?
What would be the phone equal to this sniffer? Maybe capturing all calls to a telecomminucations company? This sounds like excess.
Here is Califoria I was under the understanding that we had a right to our privicy. Also, as the head of one of these ISPs who would you want someone reading all of your personal mail.
Nope tracking the bad guys can be better done tapping their home phoneline, which would step on less people's privicy.
What about other countries. I guess they know we snoop and spy on their private citizens, so I guess they're okay with it? Nope, again.
We'll need better protocols, mail user agent, mail transport agents, to combat this. We need liberty in the US! We don't have it.
For all we know this information, which will be of great value to large companies, is making it right into the pockets of large companies. The FBI is working hard to make the world a place safe for Hitler politics. Only the guilty need feer a lack of privicy. Sure.
That information will be used by the highest bidder. In the US we placed money aside for when people get old. This was solial security. The next government to take office just spent the money.
Our goverment is not to be trusted. From the dealings with the native tribes of this land to now, they are killers, liers, cheats, fool, and boardering on evil.
At a time there were great minds heading the US government. They shaped it into a form which would make the tide of coruption slow to a halt. That was one of the design concerns, it seems.
The people of the US enjoy many freedoms and liberties that are denied to us now. They were not taxed, spied on, didn't need a licence to go point A to point B, they could own property and have all the rights to it. What else have we lost over time. What rights?
M$ has pushed extremely far. I have to think that they have outdone IBM in the lock-you-in marketting world. In IBM's prime, M$ claimed to free you from them. Now they have become IBM. Sure IBM was on the cutting edge. Sure they did some great things. Some of the things IBM and M$ are doing just didn't turn out to be something people wanted, or maybe people don't like being pushed around. In any case some of their products we start to primarily exist to lock the customer in, and have little value other than marketting hype.
I think that this is the case with this current language. It exists only to lock you in, and for no other reason. If you buy the hype you'll buy the products and get stuck.
I see it as I see VB, just one more language which will be remembered along with RPG, but time will tell.
>Never understood how people like you can joke >about a war where millions of people were killed >in action, and millions of others effectively >murdered for living in the wrong country or >subscribing to the wrong religion.
You sound like a very serious person. Humor, I'm sure often does piss someone off somewhere. I don't know if you fought in the war, or had a close friend or family member fight or die in WWII. I have, my father was there.
How can I joke about events wherein people suffered and died? I suspect much the same way other have. Mel Brooks (who is jewish) has made fun of many events in hitory where people were killed for stupid reasons. The BBC aired an very popular TV show about WWII called Ello Ello(or some such). Broadcast in the US was a show called Hogans Heros, which also made fun of the war.
People can enjoy mement of humor without having it having an impact on their serious feelings about such events. I might very well make you "sick" or fill you with hate. It's hard for me to tell. You did little to eplain why you were made sick by my post.
I can only say that it was written in good humor. I doubt there was anything serious in my post. I was sure that even without a smiley face that people would know I was joking.
On a serious note, it's not important ot trace the roots of the oginal settlers who landed in, what's now called New England. From my point of veiw the people of the US have come here from all over the world. We had an exptremely imperfect history which included slavery, geneocide, and much more. I was not around for much of that. I except that the people who came before me had poor judgement (as I'm sure I will), or were maybe evil. I don't know. I do know that there are enough of us trying to be better and make this a better country.
History is something that came before. It's important to understand, but it's also important to understand that it's not over. History starts now. History starts with you, with me, and with the next tick of the clock.
I do the best I can to help other, to expect, to understand, to listen. I know that the goverenment of the US has often done wrong. The government is often the tool of whomever can pay the most to get "their man" into office. This scheme of government has cost lives, cultures, and almost entire races of people.
I am just a man. I must start with what is inside me, and move outward from there. I try to be the kind of people I might have looked up to as a child. I want my childern to look up to me.
I like to think that the people of the US (not the current rulers) see themselves as part of the world. We are not from here, not originally. We are the brothers, sister, uncles, mother, to all the people of the world. When there is a war somewhere in the world you know that there are people in the US who are losing family. That is a hard thought. What other country in this world is so touched by the world's pain?
Our government is not always so touched, but the people are. Our government is somewhat out of our hands and in the pockets of large companies, or other bank accounts. Our companies will go to any leight to insure that they make the most money, no matter how many lives are lost as long as they are lost outside of the US.
The US is imperfect, and we have much to be asamed about in our history and current activities, but we always dream of a better US and a better world. Someplace where the lives, and wishes of every single person means something. We want a better world, because we are from every part of the world.
I am a serious person, but I know that humor, jokes, and making fun are important. I am truely sorry that not everyone can see humor for what it is. I'm sorry, you felt hurt. I also know that that is no reason to stop.
Every so sorry to inform you again, that we are not interested in paying taxes to you. I thought we made that clear in Boston. Again, I'm so sorry the message was not clear. That is something I cannot apologize for enough. Sorry, sorry, and sorry.
What I have trouble uderstanding is that after killing so many of your "red coats", how did we leave you with the idea in mind that we still wanted to be taxed. I fear we, here in the "states", are not good at communication.
Never the less, do have you people speak to ours. We'll setup a meeting, and "do lunch" as they say.
PS: Please be kind to us, after all we did help a little with that small Hitler problem. Thanks.
Shake your first, yell and scream? Yes! Watch for Lars next project "CD This." An 8 track that will tell those CD people off for the last might. A toung lsahing they'll never forget.
You have an interesting method for building up your little tiny kingdom within the bowels of the legal system, while promoting your own profession. I am impressed. You indicate that if anything is to be done, that it would require action a year ago, making action unlikely. You infact blame Beozs and Tim for not defending the people whom your office attacts.
You office may have had it's uses once, but it only serves to retard the software world. You talk as if we cannot see the slimy smile that crawls across your evil face, but we can. We know that your office would not exist, and that you might have to prove you could hold a job, if things were set right. That scares you.
We should not place our efforts into creating a system to defend those that have done nothing, except maybe not file to patent folks, knives, and spoons. Our efforts are better spending our time removing the patent office. No new patents, and Mr Dickerson, I'd like to see you go the way of all other Bond villians.
He explains that this whole thing makes them look like assholes. I think that in an age where the new digital airwaves carry sound perfectly, that yes he, the band, his lawyers, and people they hire to gather names do look like assholes. I think it's important that they understand that we are digital air breathers and listeners. What makes them asshole? The fast that they blame the air for their over-the-top attacks on fans.
Lars, please to shaking a fist at us, or the new digital air we breath. You'll lose our respect, self respect, money, fans, and more. Work with the digital airwaves and be a hero.
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You message is interesting. I cannot say that I agree, but I would like to hear more. Please expand on your idea and cover the basic points that you are making. Maybe we can address them.
I'm not sure you have the right idea, or understand the history of much of the softrware you use today. The IBM/Intel PC for one was built on some interesting reverse engineering. We have been blessed with a rather good home computer market, just because of that.
I know you feel the need to complain, and I'm sure we'd all like to listen.
PS: This message is covered by the DMCA.
We, the public...the people of the USA are defended by the simple fact that if we pay for it we own it. If we own it, we may do with it what we will. This has held true for a very very long period of time. Without this simple fact we'd stagnate and lose our edge in the world market. We'd also have government and lawyers in our homes bugging us while we are sitting on the can. So, my questions are: How is this different than what Microsoft tried to do to Slashdot? Did the people doing the work on these drivers sign a contract with the company who made them? What is their legal basis, and how to they legally defend their stance? Where can I get a copy of this code to through up on a mirror site? We must stand and fight for liberty. If we don't we've lost before we've started. In a fight some will be put to the test. Taken to court, lose proptery, and so on. We have to except that. We kind of world do we want to leave to our chuildern? Please stand strong and don't back down. PS: This message is protected by the DMCA. It is also a letter to my legal counsel.
I interviewed with a company, which also required an NDA. During the interview they asked me about some of my experence. I explained some of the things I had done in the past, and they said "Really? That's what we're doing."
So, I asked about the NDA. What was the need for it? Well, it was required to have people sign it to impress would be investors, or for an IPO.
I was offered, but did not take the job.
-- James Dornan -- Teaching plants to grow, and take over!
This sounds like a good project, and you seem to know what you are talking about. What do you say to lending a hand and working on this? I'd be willing to help.
Tanks for those good points.
Mr Moody, Linux Zealot? I do not like that term. It is often uttered by people who wish to discredit a reply before it is offered. Maybe I don't use Linux, but happen to disagree with Mr Moody's "new math." Well, then like a witch hunting congressman from the 40's he'll just classify me. The word Zealot most easily applied to Mr Moody. He has said what he has to adance some goal he seems tightly wound around. If I protested what was being done to the native americans, I would be branded as an 'Indian Lover'. If I didn't like what the House Unamerican Affair Commity was doing to people's lives I'd be called a commie. If I was German and protested what was happening to the Jews diring the 40's I'd have been called a jew lover. It's not as extreme in this case, but it's a tactic used often to discredit a reasonable argument before it's made, by discrediting anyone to offten a differing point of view. In this sense Mr Moody is the worst of cowards. Aside from not being able to add, he lacks the ability to except other's opinions. I don't know Mr Moody. He could be a nice guy, or someone who kicks puppies for fun. Maybe he just had a bad day and make an error in judgement by pissing away some of his creditablity. All I do know is, that he seems to be very wrong. I know from his other writings that he is smart. This means there was an agenda attached to his misinformation. Maybe he'll apologize and hope the whole thing goes away. It's not going to. I'll remember this, and ignore any other writings of his and all his furture opinions. I myself use Linux, NT, and many oter operating systems. I do know that the free stuff sticks around longer than the not free stuff. After all SNA, IPX/SPX, Apple Talk, and a host of other network standards died while TCP/IP stuck around. Linux was here before, and will be here long after, NT ot Microsoft. After all Unix out lasted it's birth company, Unix Systems Labs(not Bell Labs,which is still here). Knowing what will be here a good twenty years from now is what got me into the TCP/IP, Linux, Web, SQL, business. Mr Moody, I do have an agenda. Right now it's to get to the gym, work with tools I like, have a great job, raise my kids to be honest. I trust my opinions over your's. I have not been wrong at any turn in my career. You my friend ring hollow.
Again, it's not worth the price that was paid. Yes, it's known that it's common for bribery to be used. Just look at the olympics. This does not justify the US's actions and the fact that the US sunk to a lower level than bribery.
The price is simple. We cannot and should never trust our goverment's hidden actions and deeds. We should never be content not knowing, or sinking to that level.
I thik your support of a spying government is a foolish thing. I hope you realize that you will also be spied on. If you have childern, so will they.
I think the Hitler summed it up best "Only the guilty have something to hide." He used that phrase to gain access to the homes of some of the political compition. He used that power to bully more power.
It's still far more power than any government should be trusted with. I'm sure that time will tell. I am equally sure that you will see that this is a very bad pill my friend.
The RIAA is acting like those people who never wanted the car to make it to the mass market. Fine, they wont enter the digital universe. I guess that's just the way it's going to be.
There are many great artists out there who will never be signed. They will find the digital medium friendly and waiting. I look forward to hearing from them. So, no more RIAA artists in Napster. Good, I'll get the chence to hear something new.
I was lucky when growing up. I lived in an area with a great number of bands. I grew up in an area called Isla Vista, CA, an area where most UCSB students lived. A great place to spend a childhood.
The bands that were there were great. They would play in backyard, and converted barns, and so on. I loved it. They were never going to be signed. After all the drummer was getting a degree in biology of cancer. He was not going to be in the band for the rest of his life, nor was the rest of the band. Not all the bands were good, but most were, or at least has some great songs.
It's better to see bands like those live, but why not have bands all over the world just put music on the web. People are downloading, and paying for Kings new book online. Why not music.
The RIAA is old world. They are like the old Holliwood studios. They want CONTROL. Control over artists, control over the music, and it seem control over the customer.
Now they have forced us to think about the issues. Maybe even to out grow them, and leave them in the past. We need to think about how much control an artist should have over a song once they allow it out into the public, out of their control.
We're now thinking about copyrights is a different light then before. We should look to the people who invented copyright to see their advise from the past.
Would people feel the same it there was a service which would allow people to read the books in my library, like maybe a library?
But to sum up my crazy pre-coffee rant, we need to look at music which is not RIAA controled. I'm betting that there is something amazing out there.
When speaking of the founding father if the states I spoke of the dream they had, of an ideal. Their idea of who controled the government, who voted, may not have been all inclusive, but we have expanded that scope to how it was written.
As for them keeping slaves, that is something which I'm sure most people cannot agree with. They also had a large number of habits, personal, public, and socially exceptable at the time. They smoked things and snorted thing I'm sure some people do not agree with.
In the end they wrote down a document which include freedom for all, which included an ideal. Something more than just the simple words. It was something worth dying for. People did, and more than once.
I like the idea of US companies earnig their way into the world market without my having to pay for a spy system. A spy system that is being put to more uses than you are told about.
Let's forget about human rights and such. Just tell me what is being done with all that information they collect. I doubt you know and I doubt you could prove it in any case.
The truth is that it's a closed system, with some information going to some companies to compete unfairly in the world market. Who pick which company gets the information? As a closed system, those who control the government are powerless to say no. We are being left out of a country which we own and have paid for, and keep paying for in taxes and blood.
No matter what you say it's all just speculation seeing as you are in the dark. I'm in the dark also. I just don't pretend it's a good thing.
Items like this have a cost in, building, maintaining, and expanding. This system, I'm am very sure, it also keeping track of efforts to avoid it's watchfull eye.
When we speak about PGP or using encryption to keep our conversions secret, the NSA is listening. I'm sure they claim this is a valuable service.
It reminds me of something I once saw at a large company. There was a man high up in management who had little to do and few people working for him. He wanted to change this, so he had a plan to inclease his value to the company. He hired some lawyers and asked that all documents, internal and external, went through his department to make sure that there was nothing in those documents that could hurt the company legally.
This seemed like a good service to the company and it only required two lawyers. Well as the company was forced, and got used to, sending their document to these two lawyer there was far too much work. So the manager asked for more lawyer, because the demand was too high. And so on...
His empire withing the company grew and grew. He has added many other non value added services to his group, and I assume will continue to.
This sort of activity is know as "Justifying your position" or "Making yourself needed" This guy knew nothing other than how to make the company feel he was needed and providing a needed service. In reality the internal news letter never had andproblems and never would. The NSA is "Justifying their position."
The NSA and other organizations can spy on people to the Nth degree, and they might find something. They then often keep that information secret from the people paying them, but let higher ups in the goverment know. This information makes these people feel important, and maybe protect there jobs.
In the meantime, we have done this spying by trampling the good names of those who broke from such a spying goverment to found the US. We have teken the values that they penned with wisedom for us all to read, and now claim that they do not appliy to everyone, or all the time.
See under the US constitution you have rights. These are rights which we agree on one day belong to every single person. Human right. On an other day, during a war or a day when oil is lacking, or when a US company wants a contract over a French company, those rights don't apply. Seme people are more equal that others it seem.
Once we drew the line and said that one some days others (outside the US) don't the same freedoms and right under the US government, it was easy to slowly claim our own people didn't have rights also.
Where does that leave us, the peole of the world. If you live in the US your are automatically part of the goverment. After all it's "We the people." If the goverment does something monsterous, then it's because you sat back and let it happen. You are lazy because it's only happening to those people over there, or maybe just to the people down the street. Well now it's happening to you, and you just sit there and hope it does not stop Monday night sports.
I live in the US. I've lived here my entire life. The US should be held to the standards of our fouders, and nothing less. How have we honored their ideals. The same ideals that gave us this country and the American dream of living free. I do not include being spied on one of the freedoms our counties founder envisioned.
Unless the people of the US get off their fat asses and do something, they are to blame. Not the goverenment, because we are the goernment. We paid for it, and let it happen. If we were not told that means little seeing as we choose not to ask.
The buck does not stop with the leaders in DC. That is a lie. We put that person there. The president might be the countries leader, but we are his rulers. We let him know what can and cannot be done. If we are quite the world can assume correctly that we areee with the monsterous deeds of our goverment.
Well that is really not going to be as much of a problem, as time goes on. What will be the problem is, as time goes on, if only authorized people are allowed to make and sell DVD players then the large studios will be able to change the player to only play Holliwood big releases.
I sure as hell cannot state that as a fact, but it does seem to fit nicely.
On the subject of "What's the problem?" What is the problem with just anyone making a DVD player? Wouldn't that make more money for the large studios. It would expand their market to have a more DVD players out there. So what's the problem?
Well?
I hate the idea of a hangup. I live with my girlfriend, who's ex kidnapped her little boy. It's been ten years and it's few people who can understand what she has been through. I knew her before and after the kidnapping. It took a huge toll on her.
After the kidnapping, even now, she gets hangups. These calls bring on a nightmare for her. Her ex likes to call up and bother her. He knows the police and FBI cannot find him. He calls for only a few seconds without saying a thing, then hangs up.
Now many companies, not just ABC are doing the recorded message bullshit. It's made life a living hell. I not only stopped watching cable, but got rid of cable all together because they are a group of inhuman maximized profits. Ok, I'm ranting, but I'm mad. Forgive me.
We need a good way to fool these machines into thinking that there is a person there, so they hang up and don't leave a message. How does one hack a solution?
Read it for yourself. Right here.
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http://slashdot.org/articles/00/07/03/2152209.s
I think you will be just as surprised, as people where to see so many horse-less carages, in such a short period of time.
You and I should agree to disagree. I think I have a good idea of where tech will go and what it will do. A feeling. A hunch. But also backed up by a trend that shows no signs of ending.
I'm sure that the Voyager golden disk it doing fine. We just need to carve digital information into someting that does not give it up esily.
I am not inclined to think that Star Trek transporters are coming soon. I'm sure that there are people who think that. That is outlandish and/or a bit crazy. I think these people should hold onto their dreams, though. I do, however, think that man will find a way to write a one and zero on something that will last longer than a cave painting, and soon.
Meanwhile, South Park is still copying and nothing has changed. It's not often that I have to move a file from one disk, tape, or CD, to an other. I've moved my files only about twice, so on the South Park scale I can do that about 1000 times(so far). If I only do this once every five years, I'll be set.
So, you see. My home movies written to DVD will last a while, as will my photos, and copies of the VHS tapes I now own (once I convert them, assuming there is a DVD writer).
The MPAA fears control because they fear the customer. Once you give something out to the public, control if something you can never have. That is a fact. They should never have control over what I do with somethig I purchase, for my own personal use. Will they soon try and chanrge extra if you have more people watching the rented movie? No. If they could they would.
You might be able to get a wide screen TV, but as far as the MPAA is concerned when it comes to using the DVD movie, your rights don't fit in the picture.
Ok, I have now backed up and restored South Park's original Spirit of Christmas to DLT about 80 times. So far not a single bit has flipped. This will continue in a loop, but I think that if a 50MB movie can be copied that many time and nothing happens, we are safe.
:)
The storage medium is getting better. Hell that it one of the reasons I was holding my breath waiting for DVDs. I wanrted a better, longer lasting, digital medium. There are even disks now that will last over 10,000 years. I re-call that there was a story about this on Slashdot some time ago.
So, seeing as right now the there are disks that could out live recorded history, I think my scanned in photo will be fine. In fact they'll out live you and me.
Ye, of little faith. You'd have more if you'd read more Slashdot.
You can find my copy of DeCSS at http://WWW.Apocrypha.NET/DeCSS/.
I have has that there for a while. I too see that the DMCA is the last nail for many who only want to make small productions. If the DVD format is a licensed format, lecensed by the studios what chance does the little guy have.
This is an era where we can record our own music, edit our own video, digitize voice and pictures for future generations. Digital formats will last. The medium will change, but things can be copied from disk to disk. The quality will never go down.
We see this imortality of data as a boon, but studios don't. Studios see it as a loss. With analog formats there was lifespan to a movie, and copies lost quality.
Our boon is, by their definition, is the studio's loss. I don't think they will lose anything if the DVD format is open. I think that there will still be people small time productions, if it's open, and some control will be lost, but it's control they should never have had.
It's time we hacked the law, and exposed laws that protect corperate "freedom" by tossing the freedom of the people in the trash. If keeping the DVD format and platform closed is the only thing keeping American culture alive, then I for one think it should die. A more interesting culture will rise up. The one that exisited before large studios killed American culture.
Let's find out who voted away our freedom when they voted for laws to protect these closed formats. Let's publish the original notes and ideas of the people who pen the original copyright laws. Let's dumb things down forthe press. Let's PR our cause.
People who want to maintain the freedom that their parents fought for, have to keep up the fight. That is a war that never ends. Someone is always attacking freedom, just not always with a gun.
Well, ok, they will for a long time. For all I know it could be as long as people are around.
Her is why...
1) Companies dealin in Oil and Gas are in, in with government, in with big money. They are here to stay.
2) Patents. They are purchased buy big money and issued by governments. Basically a suspect of corupt system.
3) Secondary market. Gas companies followers ( sometime mindless) are dealerships, can companies, independantly owned gas stations, and a number of fearful legons. The sort of people who, through greed and fear, are selling our childern's future away.
There could be more to this list, but that's the meat. Please feel free to add to it. I know it's not easy. It's like Linux vs Microsoft. At least Microsoft was asleep at the wheel during some of the battles. The oil companies will not be.
PS: I had read that all high rankig CIA agent, when leaving the CIA, had gone to work for US oil companies. I read this is a book by Jim Mars a Texas reporter and researcher. Is that true?
-- James Dornan AKA Tiger Smile
What would be the phone equal to this sniffer? Maybe capturing all calls to a telecomminucations company? This sounds like excess.
Here is Califoria I was under the understanding that we had a right to our privicy. Also, as the head of one of these ISPs who would you want someone reading all of your personal mail.
Nope tracking the bad guys can be better done tapping their home phoneline, which would step on less people's privicy.
What about other countries. I guess they know we snoop and spy on their private citizens, so I guess they're okay with it? Nope, again.
We'll need better protocols, mail user agent, mail transport agents, to combat this. We need liberty in the US! We don't have it.
For all we know this information, which will be of great value to large companies, is making it right into the pockets of large companies. The FBI is working hard to make the world a place safe for Hitler politics. Only the guilty need feer a lack of privicy. Sure.
That information will be used by the highest bidder. In the US we placed money aside for when people get old. This was solial security. The next government to take office just spent the money.
Our goverment is not to be trusted. From the dealings with the native tribes of this land to now, they are killers, liers, cheats, fool, and boardering on evil.
At a time there were great minds heading the US government. They shaped it into a form which would make the tide of coruption slow to a halt. That was one of the design concerns, it seems.
The people of the US enjoy many freedoms and liberties that are denied to us now. They were not taxed, spied on, didn't need a licence to go point A to point B, they could own property and have all the rights to it. What else have we lost over time. What rights?
Where and when is a good time to draw the line?
-- James Dornan AKA Tiger Smile
M$ has pushed extremely far. I have to think that they have outdone IBM in the lock-you-in marketting world. In IBM's prime, M$ claimed to free you from them. Now they have become IBM. Sure IBM was on the cutting edge. Sure they did some great things. Some of the things IBM and M$ are doing just didn't turn out to be something people wanted, or maybe people don't like being pushed around. In any case some of their products we start to primarily exist to lock the customer in, and have little value other than marketting hype.
I think that this is the case with this current language. It exists only to lock you in, and for no other reason. If you buy the hype you'll buy the products and get stuck.
I see it as I see VB, just one more language which will be remembered along with RPG, but time will tell.
-- James Dornan AKA TigerSmile
I wonder what our chances of an open courty session, or daily access to transcripts as they hear the case?
BTW: Just how much $$$ is MS tossing at politicos to bend the government to their will?
I'm sure we'll see the Borg-Bll on
PS: When is MS going to write
-- Tiger Smile AKA James Dornan
>Never understood how people like you can joke
>about a war where millions of people were killed
>in action, and millions of others effectively
>murdered for living in the wrong country or
>subscribing to the wrong religion.
You sound like a very serious person. Humor, I'm sure often does piss someone off somewhere. I don't know if you fought in the war, or had a close friend or family member fight or die in WWII. I have, my father was there.
How can I joke about events wherein people suffered and died? I suspect much the same way other have. Mel Brooks (who is jewish) has made fun of many events in hitory where people were killed for stupid reasons. The BBC aired an very popular TV show about WWII called Ello Ello(or some such). Broadcast in the US was a show called Hogans Heros, which also made fun of the war.
People can enjoy mement of humor without having it having an impact on their serious feelings about such events. I might very well make you "sick" or fill you with hate. It's hard for me to tell. You did little to eplain why you were made sick by my post.
I can only say that it was written in good humor. I doubt there was anything serious in my post. I was sure that even without a smiley face that people would know I was joking.
On a serious note, it's not important ot trace the roots of the oginal settlers who landed in, what's now called New England. From my point of veiw the people of the US have come here from all over the world. We had an exptremely imperfect history which included slavery, geneocide, and much more. I was not around for much of that. I except that the people who came before me had poor judgement (as I'm sure I will), or were maybe evil. I don't know. I do know that there are enough of us trying to be better and make this a better country.
History is something that came before. It's important to understand, but it's also important to understand that it's not over. History starts now. History starts with you, with me, and with the next tick of the clock.
I do the best I can to help other, to expect, to understand, to listen. I know that the goverenment of the US has often done wrong. The government is often the tool of whomever can pay the most to get "their man" into office. This scheme of government has cost lives, cultures, and almost entire races of people.
I am just a man. I must start with what is inside me, and move outward from there. I try to be the kind of people I might have looked up to as a child. I want my childern to look up to me.
I like to think that the people of the US (not the current rulers) see themselves as part of the world. We are not from here, not originally. We are the brothers, sister, uncles, mother, to all the people of the world. When there is a war somewhere in the world you know that there are people in the US who are losing family. That is a hard thought. What other country in this world is so touched by the world's pain?
Our government is not always so touched, but the people are. Our government is somewhat out of our hands and in the pockets of large companies, or other bank accounts. Our companies will go to any leight to insure that they make the most money, no matter how many lives are lost as long as they are lost outside of the US.
The US is imperfect, and we have much to be asamed about in our history and current activities, but we always dream of a better US and a better world. Someplace where the lives, and wishes of every single person means something. We want a better world, because we are from every part of the world.
I am a serious person, but I know that humor, jokes, and making fun are important. I am truely sorry that not everyone can see humor for what it is. I'm sorry, you felt hurt. I also know that that is no reason to stop.
-- TigerSmile
James Dornan
Dear England,
Every so sorry to inform you again, that we are not interested in paying taxes to you. I thought we made that clear in Boston. Again, I'm so sorry the message was not clear. That is something I cannot apologize for enough. Sorry, sorry, and sorry.
What I have trouble uderstanding is that after killing so many of your "red coats", how did we leave you with the idea in mind that we still wanted to be taxed. I fear we, here in the "states", are not good at communication.
Never the less, do have you people speak to ours. We'll setup a meeting, and "do lunch" as they say.
PS: Please be kind to us, after all we did help a little with that small Hitler problem. Thanks.
-- With love,
The States
Shake your first, yell and scream? Yes! Watch for Lars next project "CD This." An 8 track that will tell those CD people off for the last might. A toung lsahing they'll never forget.
-- James Dornan
You have an interesting method for building up your little tiny kingdom within the bowels of the legal system, while promoting your own profession. I am impressed. You indicate that if anything is to be done, that it would require action a year ago, making action unlikely. You infact blame Beozs and Tim for not defending the people whom your office attacts.
You office may have had it's uses once, but it only serves to retard the software world. You talk as if we cannot see the slimy smile that crawls across your evil face, but we can. We know that your office would not exist, and that you might have to prove you could hold a job, if things were set right. That scares you.
We should not place our efforts into creating a system to defend those that have done nothing, except maybe not file to patent folks, knives, and spoons. Our efforts are better spending our time removing the patent office. No new patents, and Mr Dickerson, I'd like to see you go the way of all other Bond villians.
-- James Dornan
Yes, he did say that. Later he said it was about 'control' and not about stealing.
odd.
-- James Dornan
He explains that this whole thing makes them look like assholes. I think that in an age where the new digital airwaves carry sound perfectly, that yes he, the band, his lawyers, and people they hire to gather names do look like assholes. I think it's important that they understand that we are digital air breathers and listeners. What makes them asshole? The fast that they blame the air for their over-the-top attacks on fans.
Lars, please to shaking a fist at us, or the new digital air we breath. You'll lose our respect, self respect, money, fans, and more. Work with the digital airwaves and be a hero.
-- James Dornan
As I happen to be the owner of TheSmell.com.
-- James Dornan