I don't agree with that saying though. People who server in the military learn to take orders, perhaps really dumb orders. I don't want a society filled with those people; I am afraid we may have just that anyway.
Why is it a loophole? Are you saying I can't spend money to support the viewpoints of the Candidate of my choice? Isn't that what freeedom of Speeach is all about?
I understand the need for campaign finance reform, but there is no way you should tell an individual how much she/he can spend on a viewpoint, any viewpoint.
What you are describing here is the Customer problem described above. The answer to you questions should be , "This story" or this portion of the design. If no one is writing stories, then no one will know what to do. Unless you have some huge design document....
There were two threads to my Rant, one about scripting languages in general and one about having to Script in Bash to get a Java executable.
I know about the $CLASSPATH thing, just like to make it explicit.
I find whene ever I start scripting, the scope of the application increases and I wish I were using a language that was good for large projects. Some people are comfortable using Perl in the Large, but I am not. Maybe I was just warped too early. Blame my CS instructors. I always do.
I've done the properties file trick as well, but i f you don't pass an overriding value on the command line, you have no way of customizing it other than by hardcoding the values and then checking for each one (/etc/home/$USER./ ).
I want to be able to create a Jar file with no extension that I could execute without putting anything on the command line. Ie
MyJavaApp
And execute it using./MyJavaApp just like any other language. I Don't want to go to gcj and make.o files. I don't want to wrap it in a shell script. THe Linux Kernel already seems to have some knowledge of Java Executables. Why can't we close the loop on this one, in a non platform specific but standardized way that Everyone (But Windows of course with its damn insitance on.exe) can love.
Why...because when I program I want an object oriented language. Notice the period at the end of that sentance. If I didn't want the Benefits of Java, I would not program in Java.
Yes, I would love it if the Runtime environments for PERL, Python, Java, Ruby, and a slew of other Lagnugaes could be combined so I could have one and only one virtual machine required.
What I really want is to not have to wrap any Java program I write in a Bash script just to get the Damn thing to run. I realize the gcj way is to compile to.o files, which is cool in its own way, but what I really want is:
Environmental Variables. Java used to have them. But because of the Mac (oS 9 and before, mind younot OSX) it was removed from the language. Instead, we have -D parameters on the command line. Oh Joy. So to run a program with a different config directory than expected I get:
CLASSPATH=Blah CLASSPATH=$CLASSPATH:Blue CLASS PATH=$CLASSPATH:Blink
and then I stick this whole thing into a bashscript. Will Groovy fix this for me? Nope, I'll just end up with
#!/usr/local/bin/groovy #cus you know they'll want to stick it in local
CLASSPATH=Blah CLASSPATH=$CLASSPATH:Blue CLASS PATH=$CLASSPATH:Blink
exec com.younglogic.app.Executable
#Or what ever groovy decries is the right way to execute a java executable.
I still won't use it to extend Mozilla, since that will involve spinning up the JVM and Mozilla already has one of those. Maybe be nice for Eclipse plugins, but, wait, now we are back to real programming tasks and those I want to do in Java.
Hey, Maybe we can call groovy from inside JSP, just to get two layers deep in the scripting. I bet that will speed up development.
If Dean was still in the race...the point would still be true. Dean could not have voted against the PATRIOT act as he was not in congress.
I THink what RMS was getting at is that voting against the Patriot act was a politically brave thing to do, and any member of congress willing to do so is worth supporting. I agree, however, that this is not reason enough on its own to support Kucinich over Dean.
Point's moot, I guess. I'll still take Kerry over Bush for President. Hopefully both Kucinich and Dean will end up with powerful positions on the Kerry Whitehouse. Personally, I'd like to see Dean as either Surgeon General or Secretary of Education. But what do I know.
El Guapo, I know I do not have your superior intellect or education, but could it be that once again you are mad at something else, and looking to take it out on me, Jefe?
While I really like Debian, for apache stuff, it quite often makes sense to build your own. I highly recommend the Apache Toolkit as a starting point. It sounds like it might server your needs.
That being said, I use the Debian stable apache, but my needs are simple.
It is interesting that Timothy posted my submission underneath the one about which distros are most used. While they are related topics, I think they should have been posted separately.
I submitted this article to be posted under developers.
There have been several comments about Swing in Ant. Yes the Sun JDK comes with Swing. But Debian cannot redistribute the Sun JDK due to Suns licensing. The Debian goal is to come up with a complete set of Java tools that are available under the oipen source license. While there are several compilers that work just fine (jikes and gnu javac among others) that does not address the libraries. The gnu classpath project, (I didn't included a link to keep from slashdotting their already slow servers) is attempting to fill the missing step, but needs help.Most of the classes that have not been completed are UI specific either under AWT or Swing.
As a post script, my submitted articles list shows this one as being rejected. Oh well...
They are those sled looking backbacks with the hard shell.
http://www.boblbee.com
THey are incredibly comfortable, with a slot right aginst your back for a laptop. I've been biking to work with mine for the better part of a hear and I can honestly say I love it.
I am not Christian. The Chronicles of Narnia were christian alegories. I do not like being proseletyzed by my own religion, nevermind someone elses. Yes, tolkien was a catholic, but his world was a synthesis of Finish, Norse, and Christian Mythology.
I've done peae keeping patrolling in Haiti, programmed in San Francisco before and after the boom, and travlelled to several countries. I know fantary from reality. Doesn't keep me from liking Tolkien and disliking Lewis.
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I served. I vote.
I don't agree with that saying though. People who server in the military learn to take orders, perhaps really dumb orders. I don't want a society filled with those people; I am afraid we may have just that anyway.
al Quaeda doesn't have an Army. They have a loose infrastructure to finance small pockets of OPerativs dispersed throughout the globe.
Fighting an Army is easy. You Just need a better equiped Army. Uncle Sam has that.
Occupation duty has been the bane of soldiers existance since the time of Babylon. Ironic that, eh?
Refactor when you get there. You will probably never get there.
Sorry
Sorry I don't have mod points
Sorry I'm the only one that realized this was a joke.
IANARS should be IANRS
In the immortal words of SSG King (NCO at Fort Benning 1993-4 when I was there)
I aint no rocket science.
This was alternated with
I aint no brain surgery.
No way will they release it under an LGPL compatable library. Sorry.
Fair enough. My own feelings are ambiguous enough on the issue.
Why is it a loophole? Are you saying I can't spend money to support the viewpoints of the Candidate of my choice? Isn't that what freeedom of Speeach is all about?
I understand the need for campaign finance reform, but there is no way you should tell an individual how much she/he can spend on a viewpoint, any viewpoint.
What you are describing here is the Customer problem described above. The answer to you questions should be , "This story" or this portion of the design. If no one is writing stories, then no one will know what to do. Unless you have some huge design document....
A Hammer and Chisel. Yeah, nobody uses it anymore, but we all know what it means.
And with storage as big as it is now, who deletes anything nowadays.
There were two threads to my Rant, one about scripting languages in general and one about having to Script in Bash to get a Java executable.
/home/$USER ./ ).
./MyJavaApp just like any other language. I Don't want to go to gcj and make .o files. I don't want to wrap it in a shell script. THe Linux Kernel already seems to have some knowledge of Java Executables. Why can't we close the loop on this one, in a non platform specific but standardized way that Everyone (But Windows of course with its damn insitance on .exe) can love.
I know about the $CLASSPATH thing, just like to make it explicit.
I find whene ever I start scripting, the scope of the application increases and I wish I were using a language that was good for large projects. Some people are comfortable using Perl in the Large, but I am not. Maybe I was just warped too early. Blame my CS instructors. I always do.
I've done the properties file trick as well, but i f you don't pass an overriding value on the command line, you have no way of customizing it other than by hardcoding the values and then checking for each one (/etc
I want to be able to create a Jar file with no extension that I could execute without putting anything on the command line. Ie
MyJavaApp
And execute it using
While I'm dreaming I'd like a Pony.
Yes, I am still illterate.
And I don't really hate Scripting languages. Some of my best friends code in Perl.
I guess with Groovy we can also use the time honored
Javaish? Funny, doesn't look like Javaish.
Ok, we got that out of the way.
.o files, which is cool in its own way, but what I really want is:
S PATH=$CLASSPATH:Blink
S PATH=$CLASSPATH:Blink
I hate scripting languages, except Bash shell.
Why...because when I program I want an object oriented language. Notice the period at the end of that sentance. If I didn't want the Benefits of Java, I would not program in Java.
Yes, I would love it if the Runtime environments for PERL, Python, Java, Ruby, and a slew of other Lagnugaes could be combined so I could have one and only one virtual machine required.
What I really want is to not have to wrap any Java program I write in a Bash script just to get the Damn thing to run. I realize the gcj way is to compile to
Environmental Variables. Java used to have them. But because of the Mac (oS 9 and before, mind younot OSX) it was removed from the language. Instead, we have -D parameters on the command line. Oh Joy. So to run a program with a different config directory than expected I get:
CLASSPATH=Blah
CLASSPATH=$CLASSPATH:Blue
CLAS
java -Dcustom.config.dir=/home/adam/blah -classpath=$CLASSPATH com.younglogic.app.Executable
and then I stick this whole thing into a bashscript. Will Groovy fix this for me? Nope, I'll just end up with
#!/usr/local/bin/groovy
#cus you know they'll want to stick it in local
CLASSPATH=Blah
CLASSPATH=$CLASSPATH:Blue
CLAS
exec com.younglogic.app.Executable
#Or what ever groovy decries is the right way to execute a java executable.
I still won't use it to extend Mozilla, since that will involve spinning up the JVM and Mozilla already has one of those. Maybe be nice for Eclipse plugins, but, wait, now we are back to real programming tasks and those I want to do in Java.
Hey, Maybe we can call groovy from inside JSP, just to get two layers deep in the scripting. I bet that will speed up development.
Pan Pant, Ahh. now I feel better.
From Debian. Of course. Or maybe one of the BSDs?
Maybe they want a box where they know all the hardware supports Linux without doing all the research.
I know IHBT.
Yeah, I think we should refer to the original as the unPATRIOTic Act.
i'd love to see Kucinich's bill get passed. Bush would never sign it, but maybe it will go before a new President early next year.
This is legislation I can get behind. Thanks for the heads up.
If Dean was still in the race...the point would still be true. Dean could not have voted against the PATRIOT act as he was not in congress.
I THink what RMS was getting at is that voting against the Patriot act was a politically brave thing to do, and any member of congress willing to do so is worth supporting. I agree, however, that this is not reason enough on its own to support Kucinich over Dean.
Point's moot, I guess. I'll still take Kerry over Bush for President. Hopefully both Kucinich and Dean will end up with powerful positions on the Kerry Whitehouse. Personally, I'd like to see Dean as either Surgeon General or Secretary of Education. But what do I know.
El Guapo, I know I do not have your superior intellect or education, but could it be that once again you are mad at something else, and looking to take it out on me, Jefe?
While I really like Debian, for apache stuff, it quite often makes sense to build your own. I highly recommend the Apache Toolkit as a starting point. It sounds like it might server your needs.
That being said, I use the Debian stable apache, but my needs are simple.
It is interesting that Timothy posted my submission underneath the one about which distros are most used. While they are related topics, I think they should have been posted separately.
I submitted this article to be posted under developers.
There have been several comments about Swing in Ant. Yes the Sun JDK comes with Swing. But Debian cannot redistribute the Sun JDK due to Suns licensing.
The Debian goal is to come up with a complete set of Java tools that are available under the oipen source license. While there are several compilers that work just fine (jikes and gnu javac among others) that does not address the libraries. The gnu classpath project, (I didn't included a link to keep from slashdotting their already slow servers) is attempting to fill the missing step, but needs help.Most of the classes that have not been completed are UI specific either under AWT or Swing.
As a post script, my submitted articles list shows this one as being rejected. Oh well...
No, the computer goes under your collar, the tooth goes in your mouth.
Blue Tooth indeed. Heh
Thanks.
Do you have the other pages as well?
I wonder if this is a Lilo issue. Which bootloader are you using?
They are those sled looking backbacks with the hard shell.
http://www.boblbee.com
THey are incredibly comfortable, with a slot right aginst your back for a laptop. I've been biking to work with mine for the better part of a hear and I can honestly say I love it.
I am not Christian. The Chronicles of Narnia were christian alegories. I do not like being proseletyzed by my own religion, nevermind someone elses. Yes, tolkien was a catholic, but his world was a synthesis of Finish, Norse, and Christian Mythology.
I've done peae keeping patrolling in Haiti, programmed in San Francisco before and after the boom, and travlelled to several countries. I know fantary from reality. Doesn't keep me from liking Tolkien and disliking Lewis.
Hear hear
That would make a good movie.
Andy Serkis for Silk.
Salma Hayak for Polgara.
Robbie Coltrane as Barak
Some unknowns as Garion and CeNedra
Bernard Hill as Belgarath