Currently the biggest difference is that the Google audience is comparable to the Slashdot audience (with a little more AOL mixed in) but the mass media audience is the Fox Simple Life audience
While search engines remain a free market, Google serves the advertisers by serving the users. They have eyeballs to sell because they give users what they value. If they fail to serve the users they'll loose the eyeballs to the currently crappier options.
$600?
that's the cr@ppy base model...
go configure one with reasonable accessories...
you'll end up with a peice of carp almost as
capable as my cheap color palm but for the price of
a notebook PC!
(don't accidentally place an order!)
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Right, so you shouldn't let anyone see the postcard.
Again, that is merely a business model, not a moral
imperitive.
For a business model to be effective, consumers have to fall for it.
How much open source software do you think was developed by people utilizing training that was purchased by their employer?
Open source isn't free, closed source companies are footing the bill to train and sustain their developers
Additionally, how many open source developers do you think signed agreements with their real employers that state that the employers own the rights to anything they develop while in their employ? I bet there are hundreds.
I know I've had to sign a form that says exactly that at the places I've been hired at since school.
I think that if these claims are true, we could use your arguements to establish that all linux distros are inherently stolen IP.
Right or wrong, legal or not, if I find a postcard I like, I'll scan it onto my desktop, I'll blow it up to poster size, and I'll buy iron-on tatoo kits to put the image on my baby's diapers.
If you want a copy for your baby, I'd probably send you one for the cost of materials if you're nice
I would agree, however, that I'd crossed a punishable line if I'd offered these diapers on ebay as if they were official PostCard(tm) merchandise or if I set up a card table full of them at a swap meet
Of course you realize that the guy who made the three foot Bart Simpson out of Legos violated both trademark and copyright protections? How should fan art be punished?
My rule of thumb is that if it needs to be sorted out by lawyers and judges then it's a business issue and therefore without moral relevance.
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Would you have me believe the Lars Ulrich gets paid less than he has coming if Metalica songs get shared on Kazaa?
Part of what determines REAL market value is whether or not people would simply steal it rather than pay the price you've placed on it. For example, if you refuse to lower rent rates from some stupid number you made up to get yourself rich, you increase the likelyhood of being infested with squaters.
I've never seen $5 DVDs distributed illegaly, just the more expensive kind.
I won't ask to get anything scot-free; but I will shout my request to break apart monopolies and to criminalize price fixing that's backed up with lawsuits and rented Senators.
Publicly displayed art was purchased by someone, and hung for people to view.
Sure, that sounds WAY different from purchasing a CD and sharing it for public download
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yep, that's where I learned that you lose things if you leave them laying around.
That's also where I learned about singleton bullies and those that are able to bully through group negotiation (like RIAA).
Only Gene Roddenberry could believe our future includes a public of such moral standing that they would refuse to pick money up off of the ground, or if they saw that the previous tenent left the cable line hot they'd refuse to watch it and the'd report it immediately so the cable company could start billing them...
Why do so many stand up for the business interests of so few?
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I've always found myself believing that "sharing" intellectual property was inherently wrong.
Even if it is PART of their business model?
as in shareware, radio, publicly displayed art, etc...
Do you feel you owe an artist or his family a few dollars if you enjoy a statue or a painting?
What about the architect when you enjoy a building or a park?
Of course there's water on other planets.
I'd be shocked if there wasn't life to be found scattered throughout the universe.
The question I'm left with is why does anyone care?
Craftiness rules the current battlefeild;
expendable scouts (unmanned)
accurate weapons (gps, laser)
situational awareness (combat command systems)
psi-ops (photos, pamphlets, radios)
weapons that are secret because they weren't
weapons 30 minutes ago (airplanes, bird flu, etc)
I doubt any of our enemies even care exactly
how fast our planes can fly unless they are
planning to take over the controls.
that's nonsense.
what makes carbon dioxide emissions irresponsible?
would ozone emissions be irresponsible?
would H2O emissions be irresponsible?
I propose that everyone that feels this way should retain all personal
CO2 and H2O until they get over themselves and their sheeple science.
I'm not sure that cumulatively saving a billion dollars accomplishes anything.
The difference per person won't be felt.
The difference in income for the power companies might be felt.
I don't feel sorry for them, but they are a big part of our economy.
Like any other industry I would expect them to raise their price to maintain their income.
Sure, this is contrary to supply and demand but most of our economy is.
I think this can be used to increase law enforcement awareness of criminals
that would infringe on your rights to safe mobility
As to the freedom, if law enforcement can more efficiently identify and aprehend
actual criminals then laws that restrict freedom in order to inhibit criminal activity can be removed for example, I might be able to start bringing my toddler's plastic spork on airplanes when I fly with him again!:D
We're all criminals.
I was calling them cowards.
My point, better worded, might be that I haven't seen a reason justifying privacy in public that wasn't either criminal or juvenile.
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I would seriously try to ride a bike almost everywhere I went if I wasn't in constant fear for my life.
these turbines are going to have to be variable speed
Or your breathing is going to have to be variable.
sure, and is the solar panels aren't generating quite enough power wire a flashlight to them as well and direct its beam back onto the panel!
Currently the biggest difference is that the Google audience is comparable to the Slashdot audience (with a little more AOL mixed in) but the mass media audience is the Fox Simple Life audience
While search engines remain a free market, Google serves the advertisers by serving the users. They have eyeballs to sell because they give users what they value. If they fail to serve the users they'll loose the eyeballs to the currently crappier options.
It would really complicate matters if they don't have the technology to generate emag signals.
hehe, sounds like a good deal... the owners of the routers are probably pissed though...
$600?
that's the cr@ppy base model...
go configure one with reasonable accessories...
you'll end up with a peice of carp almost as capable as my cheap color palm but for the price of a notebook PC!
(don't accidentally place an order!)
Right, so you shouldn't let anyone see the postcard.
Again, that is merely a business model, not a moral imperitive.
For a business model to be effective, consumers have to fall for it.
How much open source software do you think was developed by people utilizing training that was purchased by their employer?
Open source isn't free, closed source companies are footing the bill to train and sustain their developers
Additionally, how many open source developers do you think signed agreements with their real employers that state that the employers own the rights to anything they develop while in their employ?
I bet there are hundreds.
I know I've had to sign a form that says exactly that at the places I've been hired at since school.
I think that if these claims are true, we could use your arguements to establish that all linux distros are inherently stolen IP.
Right or wrong, legal or not, if I find a postcard I like, I'll scan it onto my desktop, I'll blow it up to poster size, and I'll buy iron-on tatoo kits to put the image on my baby's diapers.
If you want a copy for your baby, I'd probably send you one for the cost of materials if you're nice
I would agree, however, that I'd crossed a punishable line if I'd offered these diapers on ebay as if they were official PostCard(tm) merchandise or if I set up a card table full of them at a swap meet
Of course you realize that the guy who made the three foot Bart Simpson out of Legos violated both trademark and copyright protections? How should fan art be punished?
My rule of thumb is that if it needs to be sorted out by lawyers and judges then it's a business issue and therefore without moral relevance.
Would you have me believe the Lars Ulrich gets paid less than he has coming if Metalica songs get shared on Kazaa?
Part of what determines REAL market value is whether or not people would simply steal it rather than pay the price you've placed on it. For example, if you refuse to lower rent rates from some stupid number you made up to get yourself rich, you increase the likelyhood of being infested with squaters.
I've never seen $5 DVDs distributed illegaly, just the more expensive kind.
I won't ask to get anything scot-free; but I will shout my request to break apart monopolies and to criminalize price fixing that's backed up with lawsuits and rented Senators.
Publicly displayed art was purchased by someone, and hung for people to view.
Sure, that sounds WAY different from purchasing a CD and sharing it for public download
yep, that's where I learned that you lose things if you leave them laying around.
That's also where I learned about singleton bullies and those that are able to bully through group negotiation (like RIAA).
Only Gene Roddenberry could believe our future includes a public of such moral standing that they would refuse to pick money up off of the ground, or if they saw that the previous tenent left the cable line hot they'd refuse to watch it and the'd report it immediately so the cable company could start billing them...
Why do so many stand up for the business interests of so few?
I've always found myself believing that "sharing" intellectual property was inherently wrong.
Even if it is PART of their business model?
as in shareware, radio, publicly displayed art, etc...
Do you feel you owe an artist or his family a few dollars if you enjoy a statue or a painting?
What about the architect when you enjoy a building or a park?
Of course there's water on other planets.
I'd be shocked if there wasn't life to be found
scattered throughout the universe.
The question I'm left with is why does anyone care?
I certainly
Who should it be kept secret from, the Afghans? Phillipino rebels?
The arms race is over, we won by a nose.
Besides, brute strength doesn't win conflicts anymore.
Craftiness rules the current battlefeild;
expendable scouts (unmanned)
accurate weapons (gps, laser)
situational awareness (combat command systems)
psi-ops (photos, pamphlets, radios)
weapons that are secret because they weren't
weapons 30 minutes ago (airplanes, bird flu, etc)
I doubt any of our enemies even care exactly
how fast our planes can fly unless they are
planning to take over the controls.
do you mean like the way that we all distanced ourselves from airplanes after the first fatalities? or automobiles?
the US Government has NEVER been stopped by national borders or jurisdictions when it was truely motivated.
What we should be looking into is how to make this
issue important to the people with money that actually
steer government activity
Actually, if it only reflect three specific wavelengths
then it's probably the _blackest_ thing you've ever seen.
There's no issue.
If you can't rip YOUR cd to YOUR ipod just download it.
It was available on a couple P2Ps a few days before it hit the shelves.
both of you forgot to establish that global warming is a bad(tm) thing.
it's a law.
that's nonsense.
what makes carbon dioxide emissions irresponsible?
would ozone emissions be irresponsible?
would H2O emissions be irresponsible?
I propose that everyone that feels this way should retain all personal
CO2 and H2O until they get over themselves and their sheeple science.
I'm not sure that cumulatively saving a billion dollars accomplishes anything.
The difference per person won't be felt.
The difference in income for the power companies might be felt.
I don't feel sorry for them, but they are a big part of our economy.
Like any other industry I would expect them to raise their price to maintain their income.
Sure, this is contrary to supply and demand but most of our economy is.
don't forget the leading "can be used"!
:D
I think this can be used to increase law enforcement awareness of criminals
that would infringe on your rights to safe mobility
As to the freedom, if law enforcement can more efficiently identify and aprehend
actual criminals then laws that restrict freedom in order to inhibit criminal activity can be removed
for example, I might be able to start bringing my toddler's plastic spork on airplanes when I fly with him again!
We're all criminals.
I was calling them cowards.
My point, better worded, might be that I haven't seen a reason justifying privacy in public that wasn't either criminal or juvenile.