A) the infrastructure is already in place, you would not even see any changes except one more line on your bill to explain the cost. B) You get paper stuff, why do you compare it to virtual documents that are sent through as data, with no real person used to deliver it, that costs moeny. C) Your point about the paper was that you get more of it then spam, however, that would be because your ISP probably does a pretty good job of covering your ass without you knowing about it. D) Talking about cell phones, you pay per call with a cap per month for the usage, how would this be any different...in fact, it would be the same, how many times have you told someone,...I have to watch my minutes...or I have no time left on my cell, it would make you more aware, voila mission accomplished.
You put up with being charged per phone call, unless you have a plan that caps it at xxx per month, no?
My method would at least let people know they were infected, and force them to do something about it. And when you say would not put up, they would have no choice if this new law passed, just like you have no choice to stop at a light even with no other traffic any other way, if it becomes the law, you have to do it.
If we incorporate a pay per email scheme, with an email costing anywhere from 1/2 to 1 cent per email....with a cap being set by the government so you don't get screwed over by the ISP, not only would it be beneficial for the ISP, as less bandwidth because less spam, but also, people infected would be aware that they are infected if not by the first bill, then by the second billing.
I am aware of my downloads next bill, cause i see the extra bandwith used, but i don't see the emails sent. If i get charged on the side, and see 1 million emails, but a cap of 20$ (let's say), then you bet your *ss I will clean my pc, and get myself organized not to get billed for that again. People that spend no time monitoring their system have no clue, unless someone points it out for them.
By forcing a pay per email, you also make sure to have paper trails, and someone has to pay for that..eventually as the botnets die out, the spammers will have to charge more for the less they are making, or it will not be worthwhile for them, and the spam kings will slowly go out of business. Right now, they incorporate the pricing into what they charge their clients, but if you raise the cost because now legit spammers have to pay per email, you will get clients investing elsewhere for their marketing.
Seems to me like they are not doing enough, you have the winter games, and if you impede the games because you are too cheap to fly in some extra zambonies that DO work from other cities, I hope that this will lead to the Olympics fining Vancouver city for such a lame reason to not have proper ice. Snow I understand, but the ice on rinks that you have hockey games all over the place...and major cities have plenty of , even if in the end you were not able to use your cool new toys cause they are broken, don't make the olympians suffer and hurt themselves on the ice , stop being so cheap vancouver!
I do agree, why does it have to be a forwarning to employers that you had a criminal past. If I spent my time in jail as decreed by the law for my crime, I have served my sentenced and therefor deserve the respect of doing the time, and start with a clean slate. No one will hire a criminal because they do not believe they have been reformed. I tend to agree the system is faulty, but I would start with making it somewhat less complicated for an ex con to get a job.
If he was young, and made a mistake, and paid for it, he deserves a REAL second chance. I think that is why so many of the cons try to get right back in after they get out....because not only have they become accustomed to that life, but also, they do not have to deal with rejection, starving, homelessness, etc..
i was wondering if they could just extend their support to xp or 7 , to include the 100 by 300 screen size, it would be great really...no need to reinvent the wheel, just reset screen resolutions to include smaller sizes.
Yes, but when I want to see my resolution in 100 by 300 then I should just have that option available, but don't take away all my other stuff. For example when I select a file on my mobile 5.0 phone, i have very limited things i can do to it, sometimes i cant even modify it such as an html file, i can edit it with notepad on xp, but i can only open it with browser on mobile 5.0 not edit it...stuff like that. Make the OS fit the screen sure, but leave all the rest of my stuff that i use, like control panel that allows me to see my services or running tasks.
I heard there was a phone out there (don't know which even if this one at all) that you could actually install windows xp on it, and have all the usefulness of a mini computer in your hand with an environment you already knew and could network with your home pc without a glitch. This would be so cool, although I am not sure if this phone does the same thing, I find my plam treo 700 limited in terms of windows functionality with its 5.0 mobile environment. I have a hard time trying to use the defacto windows way of thinking from the xp or before and using it to try and do stuff on mobile environment.
I would like to see what the 7 will be like, if closer to a real OS like xp, or just another limited version of the 5.0 OS?
>When you make baseless accusations 12 years of software development and tech support with windows, what have you got under your belt??? >So any future complaint or criticism, however legitimate, will simply be ignored. Maybe by an ignorant man such as yourself, but I know the vb.net community I am in, regards what I have to say with a little more respect, but then again, they might just all be tools too.
Who is this doc, and why do we care what he thinks about googles ads? Tell me the government is interested because of possible fraud or tax evasion, tell me someone is interested in becoming a competitor and are having a hard time and looking for input, but don't tell me some whiny guy needing some 15 minutes of blog fame needs to tell us why he thinks google ads are a boon to his existence.
You all know who this guy is, does he even have the proper credentials that say someone working for Symantec might, or any other security based company that is globally known and respected??? Also, how do we know he did not just paid for his comments about the virus/trojan/rootkit i mean seriously, you have to be pretty unbiased, and even though I did no research on the guy, I am sure neither did the guy that posted this story!!! Never fails, M$ alsways comes up with a way out or excuse why it is not their fault, EVER!
Except there will always be ones smarter then the small food chains. I can only imagine how easy it is to clone a card that has some money on it, and then use it anywhere. If you have to dial home to find out how much left is on the card, then that is better, also include the fact that verification happens at card level, instead of dial home level, I can't really trust these systems.
I allow myself only a small amount avail. on my atm card at any moment, and when I need more, I call in using a phone to the bank and ask them to transfer from my account that is not on the card to the account that is on the card, for the amount i need + a bit of change. This way if ever someone steals my info, forget trying to get money, I will know about it right away from my bank. If you try to use it more then 3 times after they sent a message saying you do not have enough money, they suspend the card. So someone trying to guess how much they can take uses up those attempts quickly only to find they can get a few dollars.
Or course they would not the public know, but it would be nice if the only person doing this was the FBI themselves, in a hidden way to farm information, and also keep a handle on criminal activity, so starting as of now, I say we let the FBI come up with the best dang trojan, and let them battle it out with the rest of them, and I would willingly go back every once in a while to the FBI infect me site, to make sure to get reinfected with theirs and let theirs remove all the others...could you imagine if we all did that, the only person left to blame for the stolen money would be them...but that would be impossible to prove.
So what happens if I have no internet connection, it just disables then I can't use my own computer, because I have no internet, I really hope not, can anyone verify this?
I agree, but the jist of it is to under stress be able to think for yourself, and come up with the answer because you know it, not because you looked at someone else's paper, however, I do think school and the real world are not the same. They should marry the 2 on a test, but separate the questions based on how you answered them. If you got help, using a computer and google or whatever, that question is then added to a subset for marking that is based on how you used that info rather then knowing it, and you will be judges also on how well it performs after... where as the questions you knew the answer to... are kep in that subset and marked accordingly, so 50 out of 100 questions were answered by computer and 50 by knowledge, your test score now is 2, 50/50 and 50/50...so you end up splitting the test score then taking the average between both scores to get the final score. The only critical thing is to be able to know when someone had help for an answer, it would be tough to know, but maybe facial recognition, and monitoring like they do or even an actual eTest that when you needed help (internet) you would then have to click on a link, which would set a flag for that question before moving to use the browser...?
I think this might be a ruse, only real techies know they can get out of it, the rest of them might think they have to upgrade to vista or 7 and do so. Nice one M$, I really hate that....I wonder if it was done on purpose...
I am looking back at my post, and I do not mention anything specific about windows versions except for XP, so what are YOU talking about? I will answer your question though as if it mattered, or even though I say I prefer xp, I detest the newer versions, because not only are they so bloated that you could not get anything to run on smaller older PCs, which is one thing I hate about M$ for pushing you to upgrade your machine all the time. I still have a PII laptop running xp, and it runs well and fine....second I have seen vista, and for the longest time, I was not the only one to think it was pure crap...the fact is it's still too buggy for any serious enterprise to invest in to upgrade.
As for windows 7, you have a lot more bells and whistles at the core, doing lord knows what needing at least 2gb ram....to run remotely well. I have a few friends at my office that program, and say there are still major issues with running vs2008 on it. There is something however that came from that version of windows that actually ports over to XP, is the windows identity verifier cross domain. I guess I'll wait to see if you even have any balls to answer the questions I asked you, but I guess that might not happen.
I agree, also the fact is, they would have to duplicate exactly the variables included in the study that would HAVE been from the cabinet ministers websites, compared to what they set up on their own to mimic. Sometimes being behind NSA run firewalls, mkaes a difference compared to godaddy hosting that they might use to host the supposed mimic websites
Awesome, it's nice to see finally someone able to not only tell the chinese where to go, but any country willing to try and censor their population's voice.
really, just cus you think you got a cool id, (idts) you can't say your a computer geek. The fact is, if you knew any of the answers, you know it would have taken 2 seconds to answer all of them, and let me know what your really about. I don't have time to waste anymore on you or reading your posts on other stories to know if you are able to tell the difference between a virus & a trojan.
Go home and complicate your wife's life please, not mine.
Yeah, like no one ever gets BBS news or has the internet, I have no time to watch TV so watching the news on TV is my last priority, 24 being the first. So I listen to many news plugs on RSS feeds, that's about it, but from what I see, you are right about the US being over there for their own selfish reasons, but now that they are there, they can not pull out, if you know anything, you will know that the regimes out there are just waiting for the US to pull out to go back in and take almost with no resistance, that country.
The fact they set their feet down on that soil, made it a curse that now they have to stay there and help until the government is stable, before leaving. If they leave too soon, the government being unstable will crumble. The fact is, they tried to copy and paste their government model, and now need to reinforce it, because if they leave, everything will be for nothing.
Anyways, I am not even American, so what do I care what you think about Americans, I was just explaining that like Syria or Chain, who control everything in and out on the internet, now we have added this country too to that list. Don't kid yourself, the US is watching, just not blocking.
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A) the infrastructure is already in place, you would not even see any changes except
one more line on your bill to explain the cost.
B) You get paper stuff, why do you compare it to virtual documents that are sent through
as data, with no real person used to deliver it, that costs moeny.
C) Your point about the paper was that you get more of it then spam, however, that would be
because your ISP probably does a pretty good job of covering your ass without you knowing about it.
D) Talking about cell phones, you pay per call with a cap per month for the usage,
how would this be any different...in fact, it would be the same, how many times have you told
someone,...I have to watch my minutes...or I have no time left on my cell, it would make you more aware, voila mission accomplished.
You put up with being charged per phone call,
unless you have a plan that caps it at xxx per month, no?
My method would at least let people know they were infected, and force them to do something about it.
And when you say would not put up, they would have no choice if this new law passed, just like you have no choice to stop at a light even with no other traffic any other way, if it becomes the law, you have to do it.
If we incorporate a pay per email scheme, with an email costing anywhere from 1/2 to 1 cent per email....with a cap being set by the government so you don't get screwed over by the ISP, not only would it be beneficial for the ISP, as less bandwidth because less spam, but also, people infected would be aware that they are infected if not by the first bill, then by the second billing.
I am aware of my downloads next bill, cause i see the extra bandwith used, but i don't see the emails sent.
If i get charged on the side, and see 1 million emails, but a cap of 20$ (let's say), then you bet your *ss I will clean my pc, and
get myself organized not to get billed for that again. People that spend no time monitoring their system have no clue, unless someone points it out for them.
By forcing a pay per email, you also make sure to have paper trails, and someone has to pay for that..eventually as the botnets die out, the spammers will have to charge more for the less they are making, or it will not be worthwhile for them, and the spam kings will slowly go out of business. Right now, they incorporate the pricing into what they charge their clients, but if you raise the cost because now legit spammers have to pay per email, you will get clients investing elsewhere for their marketing.
-ps, I am part french, and I really hate that part
This is why everybody hates the french, they are very arrogant.
Seems to me like they are not doing enough, you have the winter games, and if you impede the games because you are too cheap to fly in some extra zambonies that DO work from other cities, I hope that this will lead to the Olympics fining Vancouver city for such a lame reason to not have proper ice. Snow I understand, but the ice on rinks that you
have hockey games all over the place...and major cities have plenty of , even if in the end you were not able to use your cool new toys cause they are broken, don't make the olympians suffer and hurt themselves on the ice , stop being so cheap vancouver!
I do agree, why does it have to be a forwarning to employers that you had a criminal past. If I spent my time in jail as decreed by the law for my crime, I have served my sentenced and therefor deserve the respect of doing the time, and start with a clean slate. No one will hire a criminal because they do not believe they have been reformed. I tend to agree the system is faulty, but I would start with making it somewhat less complicated for an ex con to get a job.
If he was young, and made a mistake, and paid for it, he deserves a REAL second chance. I think that is why so many of the cons try to get right back in after they get out....because not only have they become accustomed to that life, but also, they do not have to deal with rejection, starving, homelessness, etc..
i was wondering if they could just extend their support to xp or 7 , to include the 100 by 300 screen size, it would be great really...no need to reinvent the wheel, just reset screen resolutions to include smaller sizes.
Yes, but when I want to see my resolution in 100 by 300 then I should just have that option available, but don't take away all my other stuff. For example when I select a file on my mobile 5.0 phone, i have very limited things i can do to it, sometimes i cant even modify it such as an html file, i can edit it with notepad on xp, but i can only open it with browser on mobile 5.0 not edit it...stuff like that. Make the OS fit the screen sure, but leave all the rest of my stuff that i use, like control panel that allows me to see my services or running tasks.
I heard there was a phone out there (don't know which even if this one at all) that you could actually install windows xp on it, and
have all the usefulness of a mini computer in your hand with an environment you already knew and could network with your home pc without a glitch. This would be so cool, although I am not sure if this phone does the same thing, I find my plam treo 700 limited in terms of windows functionality with its 5.0 mobile environment. I have a hard time trying to use the defacto windows way of thinking from the xp or before and using it to try and do stuff on mobile environment.
I would like to see what the 7 will be like, if closer to a real OS like xp, or just another limited version of the 5.0 OS?
Wow, only a tool could spew such crap
>ORLY :P
People that abbreviate are such tools, but then again so am I
>When you make baseless accusations
12 years of software development and tech support with windows,
what have you got under your belt???
>So any future complaint or criticism, however legitimate, will simply be ignored.
Maybe by an ignorant man such as yourself, but I know the vb.net community I am in,
regards what I have to say with a little more respect, but then again, they might just all be tools too.
Who is this doc, and why do we care what he thinks about googles ads? Tell me the government is interested because of possible fraud or tax evasion, tell me someone is interested in becoming a competitor and are having a hard time and looking for input, but don't tell me some whiny guy needing some 15 minutes of blog fame needs to tell us why he thinks google ads are a boon to his existence.
You all know who this guy is, does he even have the proper credentials that say someone working for Symantec might, or any other security based company that is globally known and respected??? Also, how do we know he did not just paid for his comments about the virus/trojan/rootkit i mean seriously, you have to be pretty unbiased, and even though I did no research on the guy, I am sure neither did the guy that posted this story!!! Never fails, M$ alsways comes up with a way out or excuse why it is not their fault, EVER!
Except there will always be ones smarter then the small food chains. I can only imagine how easy it is to clone a card that has some money on it, and then use it anywhere. If you have to dial home to find out how much left is on the card, then that is better, also include the fact that verification happens at card level, instead of dial home level, I can't really trust these systems.
I allow myself only a small amount avail. on my atm card at any moment, and when I need more, I call in using a phone to the bank and ask them to transfer from my account that is not on the card to the account that is on the card, for the amount i need + a bit of change. This way if ever someone steals my info, forget trying to get money, I will know about it right away from my bank. If you try to use it more then 3 times after they sent a message saying you do not have enough money, they suspend the card. So someone trying to guess how much they can take uses up those attempts quickly only to find they can get a few dollars.
Or course they would not the public know, but it would be nice if the only person doing this was the FBI themselves, in a hidden way to farm information, and also keep a handle on criminal activity, so starting as of now, I say we let the FBI come up with the best dang trojan, and let them battle it out with the rest of them, and I would willingly go back every once in a while to the FBI infect me site, to make sure to get reinfected with theirs and let theirs remove all the others...could you imagine if we all did that, the only person left to blame for the stolen money would be them...but that would be impossible to prove.
So what happens if I have no internet connection, it just disables then I can't use my own computer, because I have no internet, I really hope not, can anyone verify this?
I agree, but the jist of it is to under stress be able to think for yourself, and come up with the answer because you know it, not because you looked at someone else's paper, however, I do think school and the real world are not the same. They should marry the 2 on a test, but separate the questions based on how you answered them. If you got help, using a computer and google or whatever, that question is then added to a subset for marking that is based on how you used that info rather then knowing it, and you will be judges also on how well it performs after... where as the questions you knew the answer to... are kep in that subset and marked accordingly, so 50 out of 100 questions were answered by computer and 50 by knowledge, your test score now is 2, 50/50 and 50/50...so you end up splitting the test score then taking the average between both scores to get the final score. The only critical thing is to be able to know when someone had help for an answer, it would be tough to know, but maybe facial recognition, and monitoring like they do or even an actual eTest that when you needed help (internet) you would then have to click on a link, which would set a flag for that question before moving to use the browser...?
It could show promise.
I think this might be a ruse, only real techies know they can get out of it, the rest of them might think they have to upgrade to vista or 7 and do so. Nice one M$, I really hate that....I wonder if it was done on purpose...
I am looking back at my post, and I do not mention anything specific
about windows versions except for XP, so what are YOU talking about?
I will answer your question though as if it mattered, or
even though I say I prefer xp, I detest the newer versions,
because not only are they so bloated that you could not get anything to run
on smaller older PCs, which is one
thing I hate about M$ for pushing you to upgrade your machine all the time.
I still have a PII laptop running xp, and it runs well and fine....second
I have seen vista, and for the longest time, I was not the only one to think
it was pure crap...the fact is it's still too buggy for any serious enterprise
to invest in to upgrade.
As for windows 7, you have a lot more bells and whistles at the core, doing lord knows what needing at least 2gb ram ....to run remotely well. I have a few friends at my office that program, and say there are still major issues with running vs2008 on it. There is something however that came from that version of windows that actually ports over to XP, is the windows identity verifier cross domain. I guess I'll wait to see if you even have any balls to answer the questions I asked you, but I guess that might not happen.
I agree, also the fact is, they would have to duplicate exactly the variables included in the study that would HAVE been from the cabinet ministers websites, compared to what they set up on their own to mimic.
Sometimes being behind NSA run firewalls, mkaes a difference compared to godaddy hosting that they might use to host the supposed mimic websites
Awesome, it's nice to see finally someone able to not only tell the chinese where to go, but any country willing to try and censor
their population's voice.
really, just cus you think you got a cool id, (idts)
you can't say your a computer geek.
The fact is, if you knew any of the answers, you know it would have
taken 2 seconds to answer all of them, and let me know what
your really about. I don't have time to waste anymore
on you or reading your posts on other stories to know if you are able
to tell the difference between a virus & a trojan.
Go home and complicate your wife's life please, not mine.
Yeah, like no one ever gets BBS news or has the internet, I have no time to watch TV
so watching the news on TV is my last priority, 24 being the first. So I listen to many
news plugs on RSS feeds, that's about it, but from what I see, you are right about the US
being over there for their own selfish reasons, but now that they are there, they can not pull out,
if you know anything, you will know that the regimes out there are just waiting for the US
to pull out to go back in and take almost with no resistance, that country.
The fact they set their feet down on that soil, made it a curse that now they have to stay there and help until the government is stable, before leaving. If they leave too soon, the government
being unstable will crumble. The fact is, they tried to copy and paste their government model,
and now need to reinforce it, because if they leave, everything will be for nothing.
Anyways, I am not even American, so what do I care what you think about Americans, I was just explaining that like Syria or Chain, who control everything in and out on the internet, now we have
added this country too to that list. Don't kid yourself, the US is watching, just not blocking.