Well, maybe this flu is the birds' reaction to humanity's hundreds years long actions towards making them extinct:] Meaning we don't really need to kill them all now, we are already killing them for a long time now. Eventually they will all perish, maybe they'll take some of us with them as they go:P
Thing is, these laws are not made by "the majority", but by some sh*thead politicians and associations we couldn't care less about. On the other hand, a right is like a trademark: you don't defend it, you'll loose it someday [and as things keep on going, you will].
This is nothing but a fairly stale story with a very ostentatious (what a word) title. What would any of you expect from any news source. I am by no means a psychologist, still for me, as someone fairly knowledgeable in computer vision and image processing, this story tells one thing: we are just as far away from real self-aware and intelligent [not as in a.i. algorithms and logic, but intelligent as in being able to learn, adapt, understand abstract concepts, reason, etc.] robots as yesterday or last week. Being able to detect some shapes, draw some conclusions and make some action based on them can hardly be called self-awareness. It's a step, yes, but it's just a brick, not the building.
...between RedHat and Novell is that they are two separate companies. That means they are not the same. They are two, not one. They are run by different people. With different views on lots of issues. With different products. Yes, they have something in common, they have linux-based OSes to sell. Apart from that, I can't see anything else they would have in common. What's such an article good for, then ? Well, in any case, it's better than another dupe, I guess.
I may sound harsh and all, but I always said, those who prefer buying prebuilt, preinstalled boxes from big players all deserve what they get. Yes, the argument always comes that most people don't know crap about what they buy and that not every PC buyer has a friend who knows something about computers, but even considering that, I cannot say anything else. And the part where Dell emplyees can't put together a system that would work flawlessly when such an unknowing citizen buys such a box, well, that's no news either. Again, just eat up what you cooked.
All I want to say is, those people who are trying to market things, technologies, products, etc. which already exist in some form are always tagging new names on their stuff and try to sell it as something overly superior. I don't like these kinda guys:P
To put things straight, I am all and full on the part of the technologies that are converging the web and the web development process towards what buzzworders call web2.0 for a time now. But, just like with AJAX, I just feel the urge to throw things in different directions when I see new names tagged on existing technolgies and say everything else is just stupid and also those are stupid who don't ajax (yes, that's a verb) from now on.
That said, IMHO there are plenty of benefits of the emerging web2.0. But, if someone wanted to sell (as in persuading to use) me a programming/engineering/etc. model with the line "Has Excellent Feng Shui" I would just stand up, throw my tie in the garbage can and go out for a beer:P
Now come on, really. I'm not native English, still, I got to puke from the laughingly many of such and similar new "word" creations. Why do some people have to name everything with some new crazy hybrid abomination. Podjacking... right, let's call it podjerking, since some seem to jerk off on these "new" "words" and they probably need their daily dose of them so they create one every day.
So we will get one more chip to watch over our shoulders. We will get to the point where the damn mobo will have more chips to watch over us than chips to do our jobs.
My point is, it's good (?) to have rootkit-protection. Still, an automated rootkit-detector will never ever in this life work flawlessly, on all OSes and for all kernels. How many times will it bother people unnecessarily. How many times will it block software because it falsely thinks it's malicious ?
Maybe I'm nuts, but I never trust any company saying that all they want is to protect me. Gte lost.
My feeling about this whole we-protect-you, we-protect-others'-IP, we-protect-others'-(c), we protect your computer, we-protect-your-files, etc. scenario is somewhat cautious and mistrustful. This kind of protection always means the cancelation of some freedoms that were natural till that point [maybe I'm going a bit far with this, anyway]. And these days people seem too easily willing to give up less or more of them for... well, in this case for some word - rootkit - 90% of the computer using population doesn't even know but hey, protection is always good, right ?
I'm too young to think that, i.e. I can clearly remember many years of an era I lived through as a kid, stuff that some American people wouldn't believe. In this life, everything can happen, and if it can, it will, or already has happened. Nothing new under the Sun.
Regarding Babylon 5, I don't really care that most of the Western crowd praises Firefly, Farscape and co., among my memories of read sci-fi literature and watched sci-fi movies B5 has quite a special place. For me and some of my friends B5 was a story we just couldn't ever be fed up with. I even enjoyed the episodes where nothing really happened - there were a number of them where the story was around a side-story or a single person, they just ruled. First I watched the series on a German tv channel via satellite, then I watched as a national channel aired it and captured the whole stuff, then I watched the captured episodes every once in a while.
For me B5 is like Asimov: seen it, know it, still it's nice to pick it up again every now&then.
I call BS. He - writer - says Windows would have a hard time on that 266mmx+64mb ram laptop. I - and several others - have used win95 and win98 and even winme and yes, even winnt4 on lower spec machines (read 133mmx+32mb ram). So yes, I call BS on that.
That said, and me being strongly on the linux side, I couldn't agree more on the subject of linux's ability to power a system now considered by most people as useless junk, and to turn many-years-old granny machines into usable pieces of hardware. Hell, I remember how I ran Slackware on a 386dx40 with 4 megs of ram and a 850 megs Seagate hdd, and nobody who didn't see it wouldn't believe that it was useable, but it was, and it was fun. Miles better than using dos and win3.1 instead.
complaints and suggestions for improvement are unwelcome
No, I think the point was that in FOSS land you don't bash an app if it has different key bindings than some of your usual native os apps. As it is, mplayer's key bindings are fairly easy to figure out if you spent some time with more than one app. Anyway, both vlc and mplayer rock big time, and I personally don't really care what movie players people like as long as I can have them both close.
Exactly. What I always used to say - half funny, half sarcastic - that Microsoft was the first on this planet who could sell many billions worth of software that works absolutely nondeterministically. You can use them for months without problems, and you can also use them with dozens of x-files type of problems per workweek. One of my latest stories is when a winxp developer machine stable for about a year, used >10 hours per day, powered up 24/7, rebooted once per week, 2 printers connected and shared on a smaller lan, once it happened that no machine was able to log into and use the shared printers after a reboot. No new apps installed, no patches applied before the reboot, no viruses worms trojans, it just didn't work. Complete share removal, driver reinstall and re-sharing as the only way to "solve" the problem. And nobody knows the causes for what happened.
Thing is the above is just one of the many stories. With linux distros it never ever did happen to me that I couldn't tell the cause of a problem.
Of course you would [most of you anyways] and yet you're complaining here
The difference is most of us would remove anything that points to wishes of some company, that stands against FOSS directly or generally, that praises drm or gives some advantage for any company against some other. This document is not a businness contract, no corporation should be let to interfere into its contents, but as things stand american buy-everything style is not something anyone can stop. And if I seem biased, yes I am biased, since I'm not exactly pro-american regarding some businness and political style coming from that direction.
Just what I thought. It's enough hassle to update a company full of PCs for a next Windows version. Next they will have to junk all their desktop hardware and not just update the Windows line, but also buy a sh*t load of new hardware. Hardware wendors will _love_ Microsoft for this move. I guess Dell will owe them one.
Now these kids won't get to have Garageband for free, or iPhoto for free, or iMovie and iDVD
Right, like these apps would run usably on these hundred bucks configs.
XCode/GCC ships free with OS X, and these kids could have been designing the next great Cocoa apps. Cocoa simply whips the butt of everything
Narrowminded. You say we shoudln't "force" linux and linux dev tools on them. Instead we should force cocoa on them ? Nice.
kids will be taught the wrong ways to do things instead of the right ways
Ok, so your argument is that the osx way is right and the linux way is wrong. Not much to even begin with.
kids who would actually be interested in Linux and 100% open source would just wipe OS X off the laptop and install Linux
Actually this is the only argument that makes some sense.
everybody is a goddamned operating systems kernel engineer instead of a user who wants to get some fucking computer work done
Well, linux users' majority doesn't even know what the kernel is. They still manage fairly well. You telling that linux usage is all about code hacking then you're only fudding here.
to feel good about their software freedom
Actually, telling and informing people in their early computer years about alternatives to MS and Apple is Not A Bad Thing. Teaching them to think outside of the MS and Windows frame actually could lead to some real benefits on the genral OS evolution.
why put this software ideology and zealotry ahead of the wants or needs of users?
Funny [or not] when people think that those, who say that a foss linux-based os is better for this and that, are nuts, zealots, idiots, you name it.
Do we know what's best for them?
Well, mabe they should just let MS, Apple or someone else decide for them. Why do you think this is a choice made for them ? It's an option: someone is making a fraggin' cheap laptop for poor people with the hardware and software they see best fit to do the job. You say they're zealots for their os choice. I say they are practical and rational.
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Well, maybe this flu is the birds' reaction to humanity's hundreds years long actions towards making them extinct :] Meaning we don't really need to kill them all now, we are already killing them for a long time now. Eventually they will all perish, maybe they'll take some of us with them as they go :P
Thing is, these laws are not made by "the majority", but by some sh*thead politicians and associations we couldn't care less about. On the other hand, a right is like a trademark: you don't defend it, you'll loose it someday [and as things keep on going, you will].
This is nothing but a fairly stale story with a very ostentatious (what a word) title. What would any of you expect from any news source. I am by no means a psychologist, still for me, as someone fairly knowledgeable in computer vision and image processing, this story tells one thing: we are just as far away from real self-aware and intelligent [not as in a.i. algorithms and logic, but intelligent as in being able to learn, adapt, understand abstract concepts, reason, etc.] robots as yesterday or last week. Being able to detect some shapes, draw some conclusions and make some action based on them can hardly be called self-awareness. It's a step, yes, but it's just a brick, not the building.
...between RedHat and Novell is that they are two separate companies. That means they are not the same. They are two, not one. They are run by different people. With different views on lots of issues. With different products. Yes, they have something in common, they have linux-based OSes to sell. Apart from that, I can't see anything else they would have in common. What's such an article good for, then ? Well, in any case, it's better than another dupe, I guess.
I may sound harsh and all, but I always said, those who prefer buying prebuilt, preinstalled boxes from big players all deserve what they get. Yes, the argument always comes that most people don't know crap about what they buy and that not every PC buyer has a friend who knows something about computers, but even considering that, I cannot say anything else. And the part where Dell emplyees can't put together a system that would work flawlessly when such an unknowing citizen buys such a box, well, that's no news either. Again, just eat up what you cooked.
Rant coming, I got karma to loose :P
:P
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All I want to say is, those people who are trying to market things, technologies, products, etc. which already exist in some form are always tagging new names on their stuff and try to sell it as something overly superior. I don't like these kinda guys
To put things straight, I am all and full on the part of the technologies that are converging the web and the web development process towards what buzzworders call web2.0 for a time now. But, just like with AJAX, I just feel the urge to throw things in different directions when I see new names tagged on existing technolgies and say everything else is just stupid and also those are stupid who don't ajax (yes, that's a verb) from now on.
That said, IMHO there are plenty of benefits of the emerging web2.0. But, if someone wanted to sell (as in persuading to use) me a programming/engineering/etc. model with the line "Has Excellent Feng Shui" I would just stand up, throw my tie in the garbage can and go out for a beer
Now come on, really. I'm not native English, still, I got to puke from the laughingly many of such and similar new "word" creations. Why do some people have to name everything with some new crazy hybrid abomination. Podjacking... right, let's call it podjerking, since some seem to jerk off on these "new" "words" and they probably need their daily dose of them so they create one every day.
I really thought my Athlon64 allowed 64-bit enabled apps to run under win32
Well, don't get me wrong, but I don't think that was some advertisers' fault...
So we will get one more chip to watch over our shoulders. We will get to the point where the damn mobo will have more chips to watch over us than chips to do our jobs.
... well, in this case for some word - rootkit - 90% of the computer using population doesn't even know but hey, protection is always good, right ?
My point is, it's good (?) to have rootkit-protection. Still, an automated rootkit-detector will never ever in this life work flawlessly, on all OSes and for all kernels. How many times will it bother people unnecessarily. How many times will it block software because it falsely thinks it's malicious ?
Maybe I'm nuts, but I never trust any company saying that all they want is to protect me. Gte lost.
My feeling about this whole we-protect-you, we-protect-others'-IP, we-protect-others'-(c), we protect your computer, we-protect-your-files, etc. scenario is somewhat cautious and mistrustful. This kind of protection always means the cancelation of some freedoms that were natural till that point [maybe I'm going a bit far with this, anyway]. And these days people seem too easily willing to give up less or more of them for
I'll be somewhat off, so what.
People who thought 1984 was out-of-date
I'm too young to think that, i.e. I can clearly remember many years of an era I lived through as a kid, stuff that some American people wouldn't believe. In this life, everything can happen, and if it can, it will, or already has happened. Nothing new under the Sun.
Regarding Babylon 5, I don't really care that most of the Western crowd praises Firefly, Farscape and co., among my memories of read sci-fi literature and watched sci-fi movies B5 has quite a special place. For me and some of my friends B5 was a story we just couldn't ever be fed up with. I even enjoyed the episodes where nothing really happened - there were a number of them where the story was around a side-story or a single person, they just ruled. First I watched the series on a German tv channel via satellite, then I watched as a national channel aired it and captured the whole stuff, then I watched the captured episodes every once in a while.
For me B5 is like Asimov: seen it, know it, still it's nice to pick it up again every now&then.
MS: Google, all your base are belong to us !
Google: Hallowed are the Ori.
I call BS. He - writer - says Windows would have a hard time on that 266mmx+64mb ram laptop. I - and several others - have used win95 and win98 and even winme and yes, even winnt4 on lower spec machines (read 133mmx+32mb ram). So yes, I call BS on that.
That said, and me being strongly on the linux side, I couldn't agree more on the subject of linux's ability to power a system now considered by most people as useless junk, and to turn many-years-old granny machines into usable pieces of hardware. Hell, I remember how I ran Slackware on a 386dx40 with 4 megs of ram and a 850 megs Seagate hdd, and nobody who didn't see it wouldn't believe that it was useable, but it was, and it was fun. Miles better than using dos and win3.1 instead.
complaints and suggestions for improvement are unwelcome
No, I think the point was that in FOSS land you don't bash an app if it has different key bindings than some of your usual native os apps. As it is, mplayer's key bindings are fairly easy to figure out if you spent some time with more than one app. Anyway, both vlc and mplayer rock big time, and I personally don't really care what movie players people like as long as I can have them both close.
Exactly. What I always used to say - half funny, half sarcastic - that Microsoft was the first on this planet who could sell many billions worth of software that works absolutely nondeterministically. You can use them for months without problems, and you can also use them with dozens of x-files type of problems per workweek. One of my latest stories is when a winxp developer machine stable for about a year, used >10 hours per day, powered up 24/7, rebooted once per week, 2 printers connected and shared on a smaller lan, once it happened that no machine was able to log into and use the shared printers after a reboot. No new apps installed, no patches applied before the reboot, no viruses worms trojans, it just didn't work. Complete share removal, driver reinstall and re-sharing as the only way to "solve" the problem. And nobody knows the causes for what happened.
Thing is the above is just one of the many stories. With linux distros it never ever did happen to me that I couldn't tell the cause of a problem.
this is _Slashdot_,
/., since you got informative for that line.
Right, it must be
I just hope this day will be the one remembered as the day MS started to loose money and drop in red ink below Cray's numbers :P
:P
Of course you would [most of you anyways] and yet you're complaining here
The difference is most of us would remove anything that points to wishes of some company, that stands against FOSS directly or generally, that praises drm or gives some advantage for any company against some other. This document is not a businness contract, no corporation should be let to interfere into its contents, but as things stand american buy-everything style is not something anyone can stop. And if I seem biased, yes I am biased, since I'm not exactly pro-american regarding some businness and political style coming from that direction.
Supported ? I mean really, supported ? :D Now tell me how these guys can't make a flaw into a feature :P
I didn't know what to do, so I told my boss what I'd seen
You're lucky you're not my colleague. Did you get any pats on your back and promoted for being so "vigilant" ? Look ma' what's his doin'...
Ok, let's start a contest: who got more of his/her code in Sony's DRM sh*t ? :P
companies it is probalby not so nice
Just what I thought. It's enough hassle to update a company full of PCs for a next Windows version. Next they will have to junk all their desktop hardware and not just update the Windows line, but also buy a sh*t load of new hardware. Hardware wendors will _love_ Microsoft for this move. I guess Dell will owe them one.
I think this is a really good move from Microsoft, this way they will be able to
Yes, they will.
68 per cent longer
First, quality, dependability, ease of long time administration, etc. are far more important than time to make new services available.
Second, another MS-purchased independent study showing linux being inferior.
Honestly, we all have better things to do.
Now these kids won't get to have Garageband for free, or iPhoto for free, or iMovie and iDVD
Right, like these apps would run usably on these hundred bucks configs.
XCode/GCC ships free with OS X, and these kids could have been designing the next great Cocoa apps. Cocoa simply whips the butt of everything
Narrowminded. You say we shoudln't "force" linux and linux dev tools on them. Instead we should force cocoa on them ? Nice.
kids will be taught the wrong ways to do things instead of the right ways
Ok, so your argument is that the osx way is right and the linux way is wrong. Not much to even begin with.
kids who would actually be interested in Linux and 100% open source would just wipe OS X off the laptop and install Linux
Actually this is the only argument that makes some sense.
everybody is a goddamned operating systems kernel engineer instead of a user who wants to get some fucking computer work done
Well, linux users' majority doesn't even know what the kernel is. They still manage fairly well. You telling that linux usage is all about code hacking then you're only fudding here.
to feel good about their software freedom
Actually, telling and informing people in their early computer years about alternatives to MS and Apple is Not A Bad Thing. Teaching them to think outside of the MS and Windows frame actually could lead to some real benefits on the genral OS evolution.
why put this software ideology and zealotry ahead of the wants or needs of users?
Funny [or not] when people think that those, who say that a foss linux-based os is better for this and that, are nuts, zealots, idiots, you name it.
Do we know what's best for them?
Well, mabe they should just let MS, Apple or someone else decide for them. Why do you think this is a choice made for them ? It's an option: someone is making a fraggin' cheap laptop for poor people with the hardware and software they see best fit to do the job. You say they're zealots for their os choice. I say they are practical and rational.