Why there is a war
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Router Wars
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· Score: 2, Informative
How did Juniper ever even get into the game against Cisco, the undisputed heavy weight router champion? Well, a lot of people credit that to Tony Li. So what did Cisco do? They re-hired Tony back from Juniper (well, actually Procket). Tony is credited with much of the work done on the orignal Cisco IOS. There is an article about his re-hiring on Light Reading.
I would say the war is nearly over. Cisco will break out the old saying, Resistence is futile, you will be assimilated.
to take a picture of Canada to that resolution, you'd pretty much be intentionally invading Canadian airspace
Sorry, not right. Since we are talking about satellites here "airspace" does not apply. This from a US Navy law page:
The upper limit of airspace subject to national jurisdiction has not been authoritatively defined by international law. International practice has established that airspace terminates at some point below the point at which artificial satellites can be placed in orbit without free-falling to earth. Outer space begins at that undefined point. All nations enjoy a freedom of equal access to outer space and none may appropriate it to its national airspace or exclusive use.
Toys are an artificial construct popularized by the Rockefeller and Carnegie foundations in the late 1800's.
Are you for real? Every museum I have ever been in has toys from through out the ages, transcending not only time but cultures. Think glass marbles where invented by Carnegie? Egyptians had them. Think dolls where invented by Rockefeller? Who through out history has not had them?
And yes, I did see that you said made them popular but I would say be the ubiquitous nature of them they were already popular.
The inherent psychological principle is that if you mentally dissociate your job from the context of your normal life
Come on. Even nature shows this to be the absolute opposite of the truth. Why do Lion cubs, puppies and every other cute little animal out there fight play? Because they are learning, not becoming disassociated. The point with toys is to encourage them to learn with them. There is nothing evil about that.
The 802.16d standard does allow for VoIP service. There is even CoS in the standard with voice and video in mind. But it won't be competition for mobile phones until the 802.16e standard is set. The d standard only supports nomadic service while the (not yet approved) e standard will support true mobility. Then you are right, WiMAX VoIP could create some interesting issues for the mobile carriers - once WiMAX is as ubiquitous as cell towers.
Well, I have to beg to differ with you. I work for one of those 140 companies and I have working on WiMAX as one of the many technologies we support. I understand what you are saying about better last mile media - they are cutting FTTP to my house as I type (lucky me!).
But WiMAX offers something cable, DSL, FTTP can't - nomadic and mobility services. The 802.16d standard allows nomadic service so I can take my recieve to a neighbors bigger house and have a LAN party even though he doesn't have BB service.
Better yet when the 802.16e standard is formalized it will offer true mobility. Imagine driving - well, riding not driving, down the road and playing City of Heroes while going 70 miles per hour.
Also another interesting thing about WiMAX is it will be a globally compatible technology. Take your WiMAX laptop to Europe and connect to HiperMAN. So WiMAX is a lot more than just a replacement for that last mile to your house.
BTW, the lastest version of the standard is supporting 2-11 GHz, not just 10-60 so it supports both LOS and NLOS.
Ah, so here come the Tin Foil Beanie types out of the woodwork. Well, I have been in the telecom business for about 20 years and let me clue you in. So you make a call over the regulated RBOC network and since that is over TDM I have total privacy, right? Well, no.
Two problems - first many carriers are starting to use VoIP on the backbone or even offering local VoIP service, so if you're paranoid about Vonage why not be paranoid about AT&T or MCI? Second, think TDM circuit are never monitored? Think again. The CO will, on occasion, tap into DS1 and DS3s to test for the integrity of the signal, especially on circuits that are showing errors. And I do mean covert them to analog and listen in. How do I know? I've worked in those environments. They listen for static but it is your call.
But wait - there's more. Say the FBI has a murder suspect and you are the gf of the murder suspect. With a court order I can record your calls, give records of all calls in last x months, etc.
So the TFB bunch better get bigger hats. If you are afraid that they store your contents you have to worry about the major carriers too.
Vonage and the others are not out there to listen in anymore than the RBOCs are. They are there to make a buck. And the only way to do that is to provide reliable service (ahem, try?) not to listen into your calls. There are problems and weaknesses in VoIP but lets not create FUD for those things that are no better or worse than traditional POTS lines.
The author says: For instance, a VoIP phone number won't likely be included in most phone directories, according to executives from various VoIP service providers, including VoicePulse, Voiceglo and Vonage. That could lead to trouble dealing with businesses such as banks and major fast food companies that often check local phone listings to verify addresses.
Am I to believe that if I am not listed in the phone book I can't get a checking account? So EVERYONE who has an unlisted number is in the same boat? Stupid is as stupid says.
And why is C/NET of all people running this? I have been in the telecom business for over 20 years. This sounds like something I would expect from Verizon, not C/NET.
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Can't believe no one caught this as a dupe from Dec.
I would say the war is nearly over. Cisco will break out the old saying, Resistence is futile, you will be assimilated.
to take a picture of Canada to that resolution, you'd pretty much be intentionally invading Canadian airspace
Sorry, not right. Since we are talking about satellites here "airspace" does not apply. This from a US Navy law page:
The upper limit of airspace subject to national jurisdiction has not been authoritatively defined by international law. International practice has established that airspace terminates at some point below the point at which artificial satellites can be placed in orbit without free-falling to earth. Outer space begins at that undefined point. All nations enjoy a freedom of equal access to outer space and none may appropriate it to its national airspace or exclusive use.
Are you for real? Every museum I have ever been in has toys from through out the ages, transcending not only time but cultures. Think glass marbles where invented by Carnegie? Egyptians had them. Think dolls where invented by Rockefeller? Who through out history has not had them?
And yes, I did see that you said made them popular but I would say be the ubiquitous nature of them they were already popular.
The inherent psychological principle is that if you mentally dissociate your job from the context of your normal life
Come on. Even nature shows this to be the absolute opposite of the truth. Why do Lion cubs, puppies and every other cute little animal out there fight play? Because they are learning, not becoming disassociated. The point with toys is to encourage them to learn with them. There is nothing evil about that.
The 802.16d standard does allow for VoIP service. There is even CoS in the standard with voice and video in mind. But it won't be competition for mobile phones until the 802.16e standard is set. The d standard only supports nomadic service while the (not yet approved) e standard will support true mobility. Then you are right, WiMAX VoIP could create some interesting issues for the mobile carriers - once WiMAX is as ubiquitous as cell towers.
But WiMAX offers something cable, DSL, FTTP can't - nomadic and mobility services. The 802.16d standard allows nomadic service so I can take my recieve to a neighbors bigger house and have a LAN party even though he doesn't have BB service.
Better yet when the 802.16e standard is formalized it will offer true mobility. Imagine driving - well, riding not driving, down the road and playing City of Heroes while going 70 miles per hour.
Also another interesting thing about WiMAX is it will be a globally compatible technology. Take your WiMAX laptop to Europe and connect to HiperMAN. So WiMAX is a lot more than just a replacement for that last mile to your house.
BTW, the lastest version of the standard is supporting 2-11 GHz, not just 10-60 so it supports both LOS and NLOS.
Two problems - first many carriers are starting to use VoIP on the backbone or even offering local VoIP service, so if you're paranoid about Vonage why not be paranoid about AT&T or MCI?
Second, think TDM circuit are never monitored? Think again. The CO will, on occasion, tap into DS1 and DS3s to test for the integrity of the signal, especially on circuits that are showing errors. And I do mean covert them to analog and listen in. How do I know? I've worked in those environments. They listen for static but it is your call.
But wait - there's more. Say the FBI has a murder suspect and you are the gf of the murder suspect. With a court order I can record your calls, give records of all calls in last x months, etc.
So the TFB bunch better get bigger hats. If you are afraid that they store your contents you have to worry about the major carriers too.
Vonage and the others are not out there to listen in anymore than the RBOCs are. They are there to make a buck. And the only way to do that is to provide reliable service (ahem, try?) not to listen into your calls. There are problems and weaknesses in VoIP but lets not create FUD for those things that are no better or worse than traditional POTS lines.
For instance, a VoIP phone number won't likely be included in most phone directories, according to executives from various VoIP service providers, including VoicePulse, Voiceglo and Vonage. That could lead to trouble dealing with businesses such as banks and major fast food companies that often check local phone listings to verify addresses.
Am I to believe that if I am not listed in the phone book I can't get a checking account? So EVERYONE who has an unlisted number is in the same boat? Stupid is as stupid says.
And why is C/NET of all people running this? I have been in the telecom business for over 20 years. This sounds like something I would expect from Verizon, not C/NET.
Didn't I just watch this story on DVD last night? I guess we know where this kid is going to school.