As per the article, this mutation is from an X chromosome having either a double set of red or green and a lack of the other. So, without genetic manipulation, male children from these women would have approx. a 50/50 chance of being color blind. (Approx., since the egg X mix in the article can 'correct' the problem) I personally feel that's an immoral thing to do (intentionally introducing a gene that needs technology to "maintain" it)
But, as per you said, we would have the excuse of:
"But mom, you see 4 colors, so I can only see 2, it's not my fault i'm wearing red/green plaid pants with a pink shirt." (or perhaps you have the golfer gene)
Funny they moderated me as flaimbait and not you, who in a way requested it. Guess I was a bit "over the top" Que sara, sara. Yes i totally agree that you should always be informed before voicing your opinion. I was taking offense at the implication that because a person is American, they should not voice an opinion on how a government should be run. That is cultural bigatry, wether a part of that culture or not.
and there have been several hypothesized additions to GATC. If life is in fact on other worlds, and in fact used DNA, then you are left with the simple argument of when do new 'genetic bits' appear. This has been a mainstay of SF for years. From Anne McCaffrey's Pern (triple helix) to the X-Files having a hybrid human-alien with a new pair GATC XF (dum-dum dum [shocking surprising music sound])
As for DNA being the only means of complex information transmission... Why would life be based on organic chemistry? Orgainic chemistry has a certain set of assumptions (STP anyone) that may not be valid on other worlds. Yes, I know life lives under extremely varied conditions, but it formed under a specific set and adapts to others. This of course still leaves that implication that all life based on organic chemistry uses DNA, or more specifically GATC, but it could be far different, or would be. examples...
a) each double helix is only one gene, leading to a much higher rate of mutation, or redundancy.
b) mitochondria totally control the cell, no DNA in nucleus, implying many more mitos inside a cell
c) only RNA in cells.
d) no mitochondria, other source of energy
e) 'animal' cells have plant wall
f) DNA floats free in cell, not contained in nucleus
g) additional pairs, say KY and BP
there is always room for near infinite variation given the scale you want to apply DNA too.
IANAG too. The reason why virii mutate at a high rate is they use RNA, as opposed to DNA to carry thier genetic information. RNA is a single strand, while DNA is a double strand. This leaves RNA with little to no error correction, other than redundancy, to fix copying mistakes and radiation damage. It would be concievably easy to make a mutation resistant virus by using a lot of redundancy, perhaps even incorporating some protien based RNA repair. As for altruistic intentions on Tonga's part, as many have pointed out, this country just sold its gTLD,.to. Not a good sign.
What will probly happen is a homesteading will be implemented. You claim a chunk, have to get there and stay there for so long. A good way to limit the typical amount of "paid homesteading" (where a person/corp/group pays people to homestead lots of plots for them) would be that your then liable for any damages your new "home" causes. You want KD-1997.23.A, sure, oh, and it's heading for the earth/mars/space station Andromeda. Correct its orbit or pay mondo fines.
Probly a mass limit too. Say, anything charon's mass or more. That's a really rough guess, it's been a long time since i read "Mining the Sky"
Also put a year abandonment clause in so ownership isn't in perpetuity.(sp?) But liability for damages still is. So you get people/corp deeding over stakes to National Park Services of Space.
Oops, forgot to point out, if fingerprinting is the weakest link in the chain, means that it is the strongest piece of evidence. This seemes to be missed in your post and the child posts. And since the acticle was predicated based apon a case where the fingerprint was the strongest piece of evidence, this counts against the "unlikelyness" of the even occuring.
Iff fingerprint matching is the only link in the chain, then fingerprint matching is the weakest link.
Iff a stronger form of evidence is added to a chain containing only fingerprint matching, then fingerprint matching is the weakest link.
Iff a stronger form of evidence is added to a chain containing fingerprint matching and any stronger evidence, then fingerprint matching is the weakest link.
The point of the arguement is that Finger Printing as it now stands can never be conclusive. It currently falls into the pseudo-science realm with astrology, dowsing, and advertising. In such that; if you do it wrong, you must not be doing it right. That the lack of falsifiability (ouch) is what raises science above the snake-oil, ponzi-schemes and Presidential Elections. It is equally interesting about the dogmatic zeal which FPEs defend thier core tenants. Perhaps more proof that: cognitive ideas = k, and that we are only redistributing them to reach the least entropic state. Kinda like a society wide protien fold of group thought. Better folding = more prosperous society, etc. Hows that for psuedo-science?
Uh.... if i take your assumption of 1 in 10,000 people having similiar fingerprints, lets start assuming...
a) That's 7,322,564 people in New York,NY (1990 US Census) with a rate of 1/10,000 gives approx. 732 similiar ones give or take a variance of 1/x^2, whatever x being. Maybe as many as 1000, as few as 500.
b) That's further assuming we discount all the transient workers coming into town & all the tourists. Which may double the population on a given day. A population doubling due to this would not just double the "similiar score" to 1464, but would be something on the order of, hmm... 732^2, or 535824. Wow.. half a million, because this is combinitorial. Suzie Q182 matches 1464 other fingers, and each of those 1464 other fingers have thier own set of 1464 matches, but not with 100% overlap. False positives tend to blow up.
In fact, you could prove that someone out there has two fingers that are similiar to another persons singular digit. I'm not sure how to finagle the numbers to find out if the two fingers would be rated as similiar or dissimiliar. There probly is a secondary rate preventing a person from having two matching fingers.
Now for some more fun, you give the assumption that "if the over 100 people with the same fingerprints in the country never set foot in the city" to determine what country your talking about. (all figures are Bistro-Math(tm), please don't nitpick, instead create your own cosmology)
100 people times 10,000 is 1 million plus a bit for the guy with the finger that lives in the town. Well, you don't live in Albania(3,490,435),Liechtenstein(32,207), or Bangladesh(129,194,224). But you may be referring to Botswana(1,576,470), or Estonia(1,431,471), or Swaziland(1,083,289). Or go to http://www.infoplease.com/ipa/A0004389.html to find out for yourself.
Basically, a rate of 1/10,000 is scientifically un exceptable. And since there is no "rate" since all mistakes are due to technician error, not error in the system (can you say Cult?) there is no way for it to be a science.
In this, the best parallel is with TVs. Today, there is a TV in the living room, the parents bedroom, the childrens room, and maybe the kitchen. Computers are, Surprise!, following the same paradigm. You had the big family console that cost $$$$ and was to "Further the Knowledge of the Family." That decomposed into: parents want one thing, children want another, and we can afford more than one. Now into this enters the FireWall on PCI. This goes into the parents computer cuz thier "WinME box for bills" never crashes, running lines out to the kids Kiwi-Raspberry iMac and the kitchens iPaq. When the parents want the kids to go to bed and not use the Net, they do, since the parents have direct control over the pipe.
In fact, I would not be surprise to see a similiar product for the cable. Parenting has moved from an "installing vital morals young *whack whack*" to the "judiciary adversarial system" where the parents and the children are out to foil one another's cases before a percieved 3rd party judge, be it: Timmy's mom lets him do it, this is wrong in the eye's of GOD, or if you do this you can do that.
a) it would ignore the system where the voting had become to complex for the people you do want voting.
b) and assumes that there is a certain type you don't want voting... wich kicks in the balls of the constitution, the bill of rights, and the declaration of independance.
The WHOLE DAMN POINT is that everyone gets a FAIR vote. If you're Mr.Einstein but get a ballot resembling the unabridged tax code and Mr.Moron P Freely gets a big marker and ballot with one checkbox per side. [quick joke... Florida(jeb) directions:"please flip over to vote for Gore" on both sides] That's not fair, is it? then why in the hell would the reverse be true? I want the idiots voting, I also want the smarts, the greens, the blue, the KennyGs (must destroy), the Pauly Shores, cuz that means I value my vote, becuase I value theirs. My vote is important because just that, it's MINE.
Correct, i attacked (but probly not destroyed) his(assumption) point of view. In balancing the Karma, I'll go babysit my friends kid for 4 hours, help out on the next habitat for humanity project, and re-educate (assuming they were educated before) some of similiar ilk that kick sand castles down and say "It builds character"
I would guess that nothing has changed as the dilineation (sp?) of people into those four groups occurs in your brain. Trust me, crack open any of those supposed groups torsos and you'll find the same iternals. Cliques are just like conceptual art, they don't physically exist, only mentally exist, and both are a joke on humanity. (viral memes anyone?) At best it can be considered a detremental standing wave in which the Set upon which it exists is minds. Best to analyze it and see about dampening or disrupting it into discreet people... (ack, this post is a train wreck. never mix physics, stat, art appreciation, Ender's Game, and 2 pounds of Chewey-Sweet-Tarts)
I will give you that the post was not a troll, as per it was not an anti-statement posted for the purpose of "stirring up the ant-hill,"
That said, the post was not moderated correctly, it was PLAGIARISM (as it came from a source not of aclaudet's mind), it is lacking all manner of internal citation (where each statement came from), and finally, it did not rebut the very point it was trying to rebut.
CT is voting for candidate GORE because CT hates candidate BUSH more. aclaudet rebuts: this is the very reason you should not vote for GORE. Then as support Copy&Pastes a long laundry list of past purorted Gore lies. If point for point correspondance was made for GORE and BUSH in the list, then it would be a form of support (but not for the rebutal thesis)
Now here comes the really funny part. I'm chuckling.:)
By arguing in the support part with "hates candidate GORE more," aclaudet makes the argument: vote for candidate BUSH because aclaudet hates candidate GORE more. but then you must apply aclaudet's rebutal:
For the love of God, don't vote for Bush espically(sic.) for that reason.
which leads me to what i'll do about it.
a) metamoderate down those who moderated this up so high
b) reject any term papers submitted by aclaudet
c) go actually look up some of those quotes on the better known urban legend and quote web sites
d) partially agree that voting against a candidate is a horrible waste of your piece of democracy
e) once again post: In the pull down for formatting CT et al need to put a "Spell Check" that only works when you use the preview button, my spelling is attrocious.
Yup, a straw-man is where you don't directly argue against something, but set up similiar looking arguments that are easily disproved and attack those. Better yet, lets go to the dictionaries!
The Nizkor Project"The Straw Man fallacy is committed when a person simply ignores a person's actual position and substitutes a distorted, exaggerated or
misrepresented version of that position.....
This sort of "reasoning" is fallacious because attacking a distorted version of a position simply does not constitute an attack on the position itself. One
might as well expect an attack on a poor drawing of a person to hurt the person."
Stephen's Guide"The author attacks an argument which is different from, and usually weaker than, the opposition's best argument. "
and finally, A Prof's Website"Straw Man occurs when an opponent takes the original argument of his/her adversary and then offers a close imitation, or straw man, version of the original argument; "knocks down" the straw man version of the argument (because the straw man, as its name implies, is a much easier target to hit, undermine, etc.) -- and thereby gives the appearance of having successfully countered/overcome/answered the original argument."
How I do love strawmen, but I'm off to find the wizard, the wonderful wizard of OZ, a wonderful wiz, if ever there iz, the wonderful wizard of Oz.
From what I recall from several sources:
a) most oxygen from CO2 is done by ocean micro-organisms.
b) ever do titration in chemistry lab?
c) at some point *whoosh* the ocean chemistry can change in days just like titration experiments, because it is a titration experiment.
d) which would lead to an oceans-wide red tide
Leaving only the question, At what point does this occur?
As to demographic transition, lets look at China and India(the world's largest democracy). Both countries have huge populations that are/were boomming. As they (rightfully) demand their fair share of oil, plastic, iron, aluminum, nitrogen; you're looking at a far more drastic shift in global balances. (P.S. I think 1 billion homosapiens would be just right, to many puppies.)
You seem to be under the impression that there is some natural mathematical steady state that we approach as time approaches infinity. I simply ask for proof.
Why settle the stars? There have been at least 3 massive mass extinctions in earth's history. Dinosaurs with an asteroid to the head & another where all multi-cellular life croaked in an earlier episode. Best to get off the earth so we can avoid being wiped out by either an asteroid or a super-bug that breaks down multi-cellular cohesion. (I don't want to liquify, do you?, the super-bug thing is a theory, no proof that this is what happened, I like to think a mutant-folded protien, like prion, was responsible)
Information of this nature should be contained in Meta-Data...I can think of 5 file systems that support it, HFS+ and BeOS's file system among them.
Having an extrememly long name within the file system is poor design. It should be bounded by the vageries of the human mind. We don't remember stuff in cases. (i.e. it's a string of letters not, A String Of Letters) The cases pop out during to post-thinking due to ingraned rules like capitalize names, first word, etc. The same goes for objects (what the filename represents) Just look at what happens when an object gets a long name; Surface To Air Missile-->SAM, we abbreviate it. It's not because this gives us more info, but because our brains like nice tidy little bits. It used contextual rules to know we aren't talking about our neighbor Samantha. And from a programming issue speed is correlationally related to data volume... more to deal with, longer to deal with it. the longer a file name is, the more likely a context switch will occur during a function involving it. (this is a piddly example but i can't think of a better one right now)
Personally, I'm partial to the modified pangeasperma/hydrocarbon theory. It contends, based on growing evidence, that oil was actually created in vast quantities (were talking a drop in the galactic bucket still) in space after the first stars and whatnot winked out going nova. This would have happened realatively early. This would have "seeded" many of the planets forming around the slower growth, longer term stars. The bacteria that have been recently discovered living in oil deposits and thier genetic makeup being realatively close all help out. Then again maybe the universe is a created simulation to discover if a simulated universe can discover it is really a simulated universe. *POOF*
Please people, you have all but killed DVORAK, the twiddler is a geek toy for gargoyles, please don't shun chording into the closet too.
Chord is simultaneous pressing of keys, ala pipe organ chords, to get a single input. Pressing a keyboard key(s) at the same time you 'click' the mouse is one of the best all brain methods that can be used.
[Left Brain] I want to do action here (spatial)! [Right Brain] I want to do event here (contextual)!
You can't get much more distrubuted than that. You may be able to argue over which side the chord keyboard should be on.
Anyone remember a 20/20 (long running american investigative news program) report on engineers at a missile guidance system manufactuer using Radio Shack resistors, capacitors, etc. in the guidance systems for MMX missile and other long range (continental) nuclear ballistic missiles? For those who don't; Seems they had not only underbid on price, but on time. The company couldn't wait for the government tollerance tested parts so they went down to the local Radio Shack and picked up the parts. Built the guidance systems and shipped them out under budget and before the due date. When the government tolerance tested parts arrived, they just threw them in the trash as they were no longer useful. I believe the finding of several boxes of government electronic parts is what triggered the investigation. The governments parts were tested to within.05% or so of tolerance, while Radio Shacks gold resistors give you 5% at best. They never did a follow up to see if the guidance systems were recalled or whatnot, but since the program ended with the information that the guidance systems were already installed in the missiles, and the missile were already placed in bunkers that all further information was classified.
Since I really don't feel like a hour-and-a-half search of the campus library, I'll just make some unsubstanciated claims against the 18th century illiteracy.
a) since the acceptance of the guttenberg press making cheap bibles, the church has made a concerted effort to make sure the general populace could read at least the bible. Hence Sunday school.
b) literacy has always been underestimated in the past and even today, since almost all sampling is done of males, not females. Most knowledge storage and retrieval is through female social structures, and many cultures have previously seen "reed'n 'n rite'n" as actually a negative male social trait, leading them to say they can't do it, when they can.
c)and to quickly refute that books were not entertainment, please research copyright battles between the US and Britian between 1776-1875. Most books mentioned there are of entertainment value only.
"US-Democracy is 270 million YESes and NOes a day, not one every four years." is meant to point out that Democracy, at least in the US, shouldn't/doesn't happen only every 4 years, at a presidential election, it is meant to be praticed every day by every citizen. Kinda a retaliation to the 'you can't complain if you didn't vote' mentality. Which implies you can't complain for 4 years if you didn't vote, which I personally think is ridiculous, and would be highly damaging. but also the equally damaging, oops, i'll vote better in four years... end rant.
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As per the article, this mutation is from an X chromosome having either a double set of red or green and a lack of the other. So, without genetic manipulation, male children from these women would have approx. a 50/50 chance of being color blind. (Approx., since the egg X mix in the article can 'correct' the problem) I personally feel that's an immoral thing to do (intentionally introducing a gene that needs technology to "maintain" it)
But, as per you said, we would have the excuse of:
"But mom, you see 4 colors, so I can only see 2, it's not my fault i'm wearing red/green plaid pants with a pink shirt." (or perhaps you have the golfer gene)
Funny they moderated me as flaimbait and not you, who in a way requested it. Guess I was a bit "over the top" Que sara, sara. Yes i totally agree that you should always be informed before voicing your opinion. I was taking offense at the implication that because a person is American, they should not voice an opinion on how a government should be run. That is cultural bigatry, wether a part of that culture or not.
and there have been several hypothesized additions to GATC. If life is in fact on other worlds, and in fact used DNA, then you are left with the simple argument of when do new 'genetic bits' appear. This has been a mainstay of SF for years. From Anne McCaffrey's Pern (triple helix) to the X-Files having a hybrid human-alien with a new pair GATC XF (dum-dum dum [shocking surprising music sound])
As for DNA being the only means of complex information transmission... Why would life be based on organic chemistry? Orgainic chemistry has a certain set of assumptions (STP anyone) that may not be valid on other worlds. Yes, I know life lives under extremely varied conditions, but it formed under a specific set and adapts to others. This of course still leaves that implication that all life based on organic chemistry uses DNA, or more specifically GATC, but it could be far different, or would be. examples...
a) each double helix is only one gene, leading to a much higher rate of mutation, or redundancy.
b) mitochondria totally control the cell, no DNA in nucleus, implying many more mitos inside a cell
c) only RNA in cells.
d) no mitochondria, other source of energy
e) 'animal' cells have plant wall
f) DNA floats free in cell, not contained in nucleus
g) additional pairs, say KY and BP
there is always room for near infinite variation given the scale you want to apply DNA too.
IANAG too. The reason why virii mutate at a high rate is they use RNA, as opposed to DNA to carry thier genetic information. RNA is a single strand, while DNA is a double strand. This leaves RNA with little to no error correction, other than redundancy, to fix copying mistakes and radiation damage. It would be concievably easy to make a mutation resistant virus by using a lot of redundancy, perhaps even incorporating some protien based RNA repair. As for altruistic intentions on Tonga's part, as many have pointed out, this country just sold its gTLD, .to. Not a good sign.
What will probly happen is a homesteading will be implemented. You claim a chunk, have to get there and stay there for so long. A good way to limit the typical amount of "paid homesteading" (where a person/corp/group pays people to homestead lots of plots for them) would be that your then liable for any damages your new "home" causes. You want KD-1997.23.A, sure, oh, and it's heading for the earth/mars/space station Andromeda. Correct its orbit or pay mondo fines.
Probly a mass limit too. Say, anything charon's mass or more. That's a really rough guess, it's been a long time since i read "Mining the Sky"
Also put a year abandonment clause in so ownership isn't in perpetuity.(sp?) But liability for damages still is. So you get people/corp deeding over stakes to National Park Services of Space.
no joke, never try to do math while watching Johny Bravo. i will stand by the formulas and assumptions, but the numbers i used were way off.
Oops, forgot to point out, if fingerprinting is the weakest link in the chain, means that it is the strongest piece of evidence. This seemes to be missed in your post and the child posts. And since the acticle was predicated based apon a case where the fingerprint was the strongest piece of evidence, this counts against the "unlikelyness" of the even occuring.
Iff fingerprint matching is the only link in the chain, then fingerprint matching is the weakest link.
Iff a stronger form of evidence is added to a chain containing only fingerprint matching, then fingerprint matching is the weakest link.
Iff a stronger form of evidence is added to a chain containing fingerprint matching and any stronger evidence, then fingerprint matching is the weakest link.
The point of the arguement is that Finger Printing as it now stands can never be conclusive. It currently falls into the pseudo-science realm with astrology, dowsing, and advertising. In such that; if you do it wrong, you must not be doing it right. That the lack of falsifiability (ouch) is what raises science above the snake-oil, ponzi-schemes and Presidential Elections. It is equally interesting about the dogmatic zeal which FPEs defend thier core tenants. Perhaps more proof that: cognitive ideas = k, and that we are only redistributing them to reach the least entropic state. Kinda like a society wide protien fold of group thought. Better folding = more prosperous society, etc. Hows that for psuedo-science?
Uh.... if i take your assumption of 1 in 10,000 people having similiar fingerprints, lets start assuming...
,Liechtenstein(32,207), or Bangladesh(129,194,224). But you may be referring to Botswana(1,576,470), or Estonia(1,431,471), or Swaziland(1,083,289). Or go to http://www.infoplease.com/ipa/A0004389.html to find out for yourself.
a) That's 7,322,564 people in New York,NY (1990 US Census) with a rate of 1/10,000 gives approx. 732 similiar ones give or take a variance of 1/x^2, whatever x being. Maybe as many as 1000, as few as 500.
b) That's further assuming we discount all the transient workers coming into town & all the tourists. Which may double the population on a given day. A population doubling due to this would not just double the "similiar score" to 1464, but would be something on the order of, hmm... 732^2, or 535824. Wow.. half a million, because this is combinitorial. Suzie Q182 matches 1464 other fingers, and each of those 1464 other fingers have thier own set of 1464 matches, but not with 100% overlap. False positives tend to blow up.
In fact, you could prove that someone out there has two fingers that are similiar to another persons singular digit. I'm not sure how to finagle the numbers to find out if the two fingers would be rated as similiar or dissimiliar. There probly is a secondary rate preventing a person from having two matching fingers.
Now for some more fun, you give the assumption that "if the over 100 people with the same fingerprints in the country never set foot in the city" to determine what country your talking about. (all figures are Bistro-Math(tm), please don't nitpick, instead create your own cosmology)
100 people times 10,000 is 1 million plus a bit for the guy with the finger that lives in the town. Well, you don't live in Albania(3,490,435)
Basically, a rate of 1/10,000 is scientifically un exceptable. And since there is no "rate" since all mistakes are due to technician error, not error in the system (can you say Cult?) there is no way for it to be a science.
In this, the best parallel is with TVs. Today, there is a TV in the living room, the parents bedroom, the childrens room, and maybe the kitchen. Computers are, Surprise!, following the same paradigm. You had the big family console that cost $$$$ and was to "Further the Knowledge of the Family." That decomposed into: parents want one thing, children want another, and we can afford more than one. Now into this enters the FireWall on PCI. This goes into the parents computer cuz thier "WinME box for bills" never crashes, running lines out to the kids Kiwi-Raspberry iMac and the kitchens iPaq. When the parents want the kids to go to bed and not use the Net, they do, since the parents have direct control over the pipe.
In fact, I would not be surprise to see a similiar product for the cable. Parenting has moved from an "installing vital morals young *whack whack*" to the "judiciary adversarial system" where the parents and the children are out to foil one another's cases before a percieved 3rd party judge, be it: Timmy's mom lets him do it, this is wrong in the eye's of GOD, or if you do this you can do that.
Unfortunetly, your argument is wrong in that:
a) it would ignore the system where the voting had become to complex for the people you do want voting.
b) and assumes that there is a certain type you don't want voting... wich kicks in the balls of the constitution, the bill of rights, and the declaration of independance.
The WHOLE DAMN POINT is that everyone gets a FAIR vote. If you're Mr.Einstein but get a ballot resembling the unabridged tax code and Mr.Moron P Freely gets a big marker and ballot with one checkbox per side. [quick joke... Florida(jeb) directions:"please flip over to vote for Gore" on both sides] That's not fair, is it? then why in the hell would the reverse be true? I want the idiots voting, I also want the smarts, the greens, the blue, the KennyGs (must destroy), the Pauly Shores, cuz that means I value my vote, becuase I value theirs. My vote is important because just that, it's MINE.
On average, a person sites between 4 and 5 unsubstantiated statistics per day.
Correct, i attacked (but probly not destroyed) his(assumption) point of view. In balancing the Karma, I'll go babysit my friends kid for 4 hours, help out on the next habitat for humanity project, and re-educate (assuming they were educated before) some of similiar ilk that kick sand castles down and say "It builds character"
I would guess that nothing has changed as the dilineation (sp?) of people into those four groups occurs in your brain. Trust me, crack open any of those supposed groups torsos and you'll find the same iternals. Cliques are just like conceptual art, they don't physically exist, only mentally exist, and both are a joke on humanity. (viral memes anyone?) At best it can be considered a detremental standing wave in which the Set upon which it exists is minds. Best to analyze it and see about dampening or disrupting it into discreet people... (ack, this post is a train wreck. never mix physics, stat, art appreciation, Ender's Game, and 2 pounds of Chewey-Sweet-Tarts)
That said, the post was not moderated correctly, it was PLAGIARISM (as it came from a source not of aclaudet's mind), it is lacking all manner of internal citation (where each statement came from), and finally, it did not rebut the very point it was trying to rebut.
CT is voting for candidate GORE because CT hates candidate BUSH more. aclaudet rebuts: this is the very reason you should not vote for GORE. Then as support Copy&Pastes a long laundry list of past purorted Gore lies. If point for point correspondance was made for GORE and BUSH in the list, then it would be a form of support (but not for the rebutal thesis)
Now here comes the really funny part. I'm chuckling. :)
By arguing in the support part with "hates candidate GORE more," aclaudet makes the argument: vote for candidate BUSH because aclaudet hates candidate GORE more. but then you must apply aclaudet's rebutal:
which leads me to what i'll do about it.
a) metamoderate down those who moderated this up so high
b) reject any term papers submitted by aclaudet
c) go actually look up some of those quotes on the better known urban legend and quote web sites
d) partially agree that voting against a candidate is a horrible waste of your piece of democracy
e) once again post: In the pull down for formatting CT et al need to put a "Spell Check" that only works when you use the preview button, my spelling is attrocious.
The Nizkor Project"The Straw Man fallacy is committed when a person simply ignores a person's actual position and substitutes a distorted, exaggerated or misrepresented version of that position..... This sort of "reasoning" is fallacious because attacking a distorted version of a position simply does not constitute an attack on the position itself. One might as well expect an attack on a poor drawing of a person to hurt the person."
Stephen's Guide"The author attacks an argument which is different from, and usually weaker than, the opposition's best argument. "
and finally, A Prof's Website"Straw Man occurs when an opponent takes the original argument of his/her adversary and then offers a close imitation, or straw man, version of the original argument; "knocks down" the straw man version of the argument (because the straw man, as its name implies, is a much easier target to hit, undermine, etc.) -- and thereby gives the appearance of having successfully countered/overcome/answered the original argument."
How I do love strawmen, but I'm off to find the wizard, the wonderful wizard of OZ, a wonderful wiz, if ever there iz, the wonderful wizard of Oz.
Can't wait till they sell these at a loss, gonna hack me up some M$ console. Hope they open at $99, MUhahahahahahahahahahaha
From what I recall from several sources:
a) most oxygen from CO2 is done by ocean micro-organisms.
b) ever do titration in chemistry lab?
c) at some point *whoosh* the ocean chemistry can change in days just like titration experiments, because it is a titration experiment.
d) which would lead to an oceans-wide red tide
Leaving only the question, At what point does this occur?
As to demographic transition, lets look at China and India(the world's largest democracy). Both countries have huge populations that are/were boomming. As they (rightfully) demand their fair share of oil, plastic, iron, aluminum, nitrogen; you're looking at a far more drastic shift in global balances. (P.S. I think 1 billion homosapiens would be just right, to many puppies.)
You seem to be under the impression that there is some natural mathematical steady state that we approach as time approaches infinity. I simply ask for proof.
Why settle the stars? There have been at least 3 massive mass extinctions in earth's history. Dinosaurs with an asteroid to the head & another where all multi-cellular life croaked in an earlier episode. Best to get off the earth so we can avoid being wiped out by either an asteroid or a super-bug that breaks down multi-cellular cohesion. (I don't want to liquify, do you?, the super-bug thing is a theory, no proof that this is what happened, I like to think a mutant-folded protien, like prion, was responsible)
Information of this nature should be contained in Meta-Data...I can think of 5 file systems that support it, HFS+ and BeOS's file system among them.
Having an extrememly long name within the file system is poor design. It should be bounded by the vageries of the human mind. We don't remember stuff in cases. (i.e. it's a string of letters not, A String Of Letters) The cases pop out during to post-thinking due to ingraned rules like capitalize names, first word, etc. The same goes for objects (what the filename represents) Just look at what happens when an object gets a long name; Surface To Air Missile-->SAM, we abbreviate it. It's not because this gives us more info, but because our brains like nice tidy little bits. It used contextual rules to know we aren't talking about our neighbor Samantha. And from a programming issue speed is correlationally related to data volume... more to deal with, longer to deal with it. the longer a file name is, the more likely a context switch will occur during a function involving it. (this is a piddly example but i can't think of a better one right now)
Personally, I'm partial to the modified pangeasperma/hydrocarbon theory. It contends, based on growing evidence, that oil was actually created in vast quantities (were talking a drop in the galactic bucket still) in space after the first stars and whatnot winked out going nova. This would have happened realatively early. This would have "seeded" many of the planets forming around the slower growth, longer term stars. The bacteria that have been recently discovered living in oil deposits and thier genetic makeup being realatively close all help out. Then again maybe the universe is a created simulation to discover if a simulated universe can discover it is really a simulated universe. *POOF*
this thread is kinda dead and all but...
Please people, you have all but killed DVORAK, the twiddler is a geek toy for gargoyles, please don't shun chording into the closet too.
Chord is simultaneous pressing of keys, ala pipe organ chords, to get a single input. Pressing a keyboard key(s) at the same time you 'click' the mouse is one of the best all brain methods that can be used.
[Left Brain] I want to do action here (spatial)!
[Right Brain] I want to do event here (contextual)!
You can't get much more distrubuted than that. You may be able to argue over which side the chord keyboard should be on.
Anyone remember a 20/20 (long running american investigative news program) report on engineers at a missile guidance system manufactuer using Radio Shack resistors, capacitors, etc. in the guidance systems for MMX missile and other long range (continental) nuclear ballistic missiles? For those who don't; Seems they had not only underbid on price, but on time. The company couldn't wait for the government tollerance tested parts so they went down to the local Radio Shack and picked up the parts. Built the guidance systems and shipped them out under budget and before the due date. When the government tolerance tested parts arrived, they just threw them in the trash as they were no longer useful. I believe the finding of several boxes of government electronic parts is what triggered the investigation. The governments parts were tested to within .05% or so of tolerance, while Radio Shacks gold resistors give you 5% at best. They never did a follow up to see if the guidance systems were recalled or whatnot, but since the program ended with the information that the guidance systems were already installed in the missiles, and the missile were already placed in bunkers that all further information was classified.
Since I really don't feel like a hour-and-a-half search of the campus library, I'll just make some unsubstanciated claims against the 18th century illiteracy.
a) since the acceptance of the guttenberg press making cheap bibles, the church has made a concerted effort to make sure the general populace could read at least the bible. Hence Sunday school.
b) literacy has always been underestimated in the past and even today, since almost all sampling is done of males, not females. Most knowledge storage and retrieval is through female social structures, and many cultures have previously seen "reed'n 'n rite'n" as actually a negative male social trait, leading them to say they can't do it, when they can.
c)and to quickly refute that books were not entertainment, please research copyright battles between the US and Britian between 1776-1875. Most books mentioned there are of entertainment value only.
"US-Democracy is 270 million YESes and NOes a day, not one every four years." is meant to point out that Democracy, at least in the US, shouldn't/doesn't happen only every 4 years, at a presidential election, it is meant to be praticed every day by every citizen. Kinda a retaliation to the 'you can't complain if you didn't vote' mentality. Which implies you can't complain for 4 years if you didn't vote, which I personally think is ridiculous, and would be highly damaging. but also the equally damaging, oops, i'll vote better in four years ... end rant.