the point of an rts isnt really to play a role. you don't select the "you move over there and shoot that guy in the face" text option when you want to tell one of your soldiers to attack another unit. you left click on the guy and then right click on its target and off your unit goes. that's what i mean about an rts being too abstract to call an rpg.
with your looser use of the term literaly almost any game could be called an rpg. at that point you would have only one catagory of game, which would be silly.
yes but using two big generic catagories like that doesnt tell you anything about the games that fall under them. putting both quake and baulder's gate (two radicaly different games) into the same catagory of role playing is kind of silly.
plus (just to nit-pick), an rts is most deffinitly not a role playing game as you are simply not playing a role (except in a few exceptions where it's part of the story you are in fact not god in an rts). your position in most rts games is far too abstract to discribe it as role playing.
wouldn't this be defamation? i would think putting some one who has not been convicted of a sex offence in a data base for sex offenders would fall under the catagory of dafamation.
i also love this bit from the article...
A civilly declared offender, however, could petition the court to have the person's name removed from the new list after six years if there have been no new problems and the judge believes the person is unlikely to abuse again
unlikely to abuse again!? but if they've abused before then why havent they been convicted?
The article does state that this is an alternative to opening up a one time windoew to bring civil suits againts catholic priests for alleged sexual abuse but this seems like it has massive potential for abuse. even if this is only used for profiling priests it still doesnt address the issue that some of these priest may not have done anything wrong.
Not that this is especially important but why does the topic line say "colours" given that the site admins have stated several times that this is an American site?
Everyone will have to forgive me because this is completely off topic but this is really annoying the piss out of me.
Your signature The "USAPATRIOT" Act has nothing to do with patriotism, so I pronounce it "the you sap at riot act" to avoid confusion. literally makes absolutely no sense and is annoying. While I am certainly not a fan of the PATRIOT act suggesting that its acronym means or should read something completely unintelligible is neither funny or interesting.
As good old John Nowak politely pointed out (sarcasm) I read the study wrong. The real amount is 12.5 percent of Americans 50+ play games (based off the numbers on the ESA report), which only emphasizes my point that not many older people play games.
I do agree with you, however, that the Wii controller offers interesting interface options to those who might not have the manual dexterity they used to have.
well you are correct (sorry i was busy at work and misread the study) but my point still stands. Given that only 50 percent of Americans play games (from the study) and that only 25 percent of those people are 50+ the number of people 50+ playing games is actually less than 25 percent.
So congrats on being great and finding fault but said fault was irrelevant. You do earn an A+ for arrogance and being an ass (I would call it trolling) with your "Why do I even bother with Games postings..." comment, however. Thanks!
Statistics do. Here's some research done by the ESA on the subject http://www.theesa.com/facts/gamer_data.php . Only 25 percent of the 50+ age group plays games and you can bet the bulk of that group is clustered towards 50 years of age and less around 64. Certainly in the future there will be more older gamers but right now the number of people 64 or older playing games is fairly small.
Regardless of his professional work (which is edited by an editor mind you) using a blog as a resource is still slop. Further more my examples of his extremely sloppy work in at the one randomly selected artical from that site indicates that he may need an editor to keep a proper level of journalistic quality.
While I am most definitely not a republican and I'm not refuting anything you are saying, you should furnish better sources for your arguments if you're going to hurl about such a massive accusation as that. Greg Palast seems to be hardly a reputable source for something "we all know". In just a quick peak at his site I find this little gem
In a deft maneuver at the end of last week, Bush rammed through Congress a massive reduction in the inheritance tax.
Nothing of the sort happened. For starters this is a republican agenda, not just a Bush one so stating Bush did this is stupid. Second and more importantly, this was not rammed through congress. the House voted in favor of it but it did not clear the Senate. The beginning of the article is precious too, with the author insinuating that the estate tax cut was going to some how victimize poor, wealthy, elderly women. I don't know much about Greg Palast but at least this one article I read reeks of bloggish, crap journalism.
While I will agree that both parties are subject to corruption I find your examples of moral or immoral actions on the part of the democrat and republican parties a bit skewed.
Republicans brought an end to slavery in America.
Wow, talk about a radicaly outdated reference. The republican party of Lincoln is almost nothing like the party of today. packeteer said it well when he said it was liberals who freed the slaves, not modern day republicans.
I also find it funny that, that is the most recent positive deed you can come with for the republican party. speaks wonders for them.
Democrats let 1,000,000 Rwandans die.
Both parties are guilty of ignoring Africa. I don't see Bush Jr. rushing to do anything about the situation in Sudan and the massive loss of life taking place there. I should also mention before some one says "it's because we're too busy with Iraq" that there was plenty of violence happening in Africa prior to 9/11 and America's military adventurism in the middle east.
I've never done anything of the sort. I'm referring to my own experience in which my tags were expired on my car, which violated a rule the complex had to prevent abandoned vehicles. I am a low-income college student and at the time I was having problems paying off a ticket (42mph in a 30mph zone) and therefore wasn't able to register my vehicle on time. I was constantly harass by elderly elements of my condo association despite never having had a previous complaint against me for about 2 years (I had made them fully aware of my fiscal situation) and despite the fact that the vehicle was certainly not abandoned. I literally had to park my car in a nearby complex just to get some peace.
That and delivering meals to the elderly in a volunteer capacity (my high school required volunteer service) for about a year has lead me to the conclusion that there are indeed segments of the elderly who really do hate everyone. Furthermore, these people will go to great lengths to cause grief for others just for the righteous glory of it.
The article states that they've already tried going through the police with no success. My statement was made with the assumption that they has persued all avenues along this path.
In regards to community government, trying to get anything out of them for something as small as this would take months. Months of enduring a horrible high pitch sound while trying to relaxe in their yard.
The only time efficient solution I could come with for if I was in that situation would be to go over there and smash it.
Or at night, plan a raid, whereby you break the device in such a fashion that all the nice little leds stay on...
Screw that. I'd just head over there at 3 in the morning and smash it with a hammer (and I'm dead serious for those looking to mod this funny). I've had to deal with people of this sort in dealing with my condo association and let me tell you, there are certain segments of the elderly who literally hate everyone. Given that the police will do nothing about this, the only option is to take things into your own hands. These units are fairly expensive and some one on a limited budget (such as your typical elderly neighbor) will likely not have the resources to replace such a device. I would Hop the fence at three in the morning and anything that looked like it might be emitting the sound would be either stolen or smashed.
For anyone who has moral concerns over smashing the property of an elderly person, said person should take into consideration the fact that this elderly person has installed a device which targets young neighbors regardless of their actions or behavior. Punishing all individuals of a given group regardless of guilt is certainly immoral. Furthermore, said elderly neighbor has plenty of options through the local police department in dealing with disturbances and has no right to take things into their own hands
Given that the police will do nothing about this, one has no option but to take things into ones own hands.
Of course if you choose this course of action you should be careful in doing so and recongnize the fact that it is illegal. I'm really just saying what I would personally do and not necessarily what you should do.
I'm scratching my head over what you said about the gamecube. you say you hate it but then go on to say you love nintendo's first party games. now the gamecube really didnt do all that much different from the n64, it just had a bit more power behind it.
so this leads me to ask, why hate the gamecube and yet love nintendo and its earlier systems?
No, it's her political leftism that they are attacking. Otherwise why not call her a fascist for an even better response. As an added bonus, communism doesnt even directly imply dictatorial style rule. Marx never established how a communist nation was to run. This would become a major problem for those revolutionaries attempting to put his ideology into practice.
The site the add was for was http://www.thoseshirts.com/ and is most definitely a company pandering to the right wing.
Also, I should note that I would find a news agency with adds pandering to the far left also a questionable source for information.
does anybody know anything about UPI? (i dont) it's linked to as the source for the article on chinese fusion.
i ask because there was an add for shirts labeling hillary clinton as a communist on the site. i dont care what your political affiliation is it should be obvious that she is not a communist. seeing this kind of advertising (what one should recognize as extremist advertising, regardless of left or right political alignment) does not speak well of the source.
What is the PS3 really providing that the xbox isn't? They've got what might be the next home video format support and what appears to be a last minute tacked on motion sensor on the controler. Meanwhile the 360 has Live.
I'll allow that I might be missing something but I really don't see any of this "potential" that you're refering to in the PS3 above and beyond the potential in the 360.
Of course the parent is talking about video games and you're talking about portable digital audio players which last time i checked were not in fact video games.
The ipods success in Japan versus the xbox's lack there of has to do with the fact that there has not been a historical dominance in portable mp3 players by japanese companies. Furthermore, there is nothing culturaly distinctive between a Japanese made mp3 player and an American one where as there are substancial differences between games made and played between the two countries.
maybe some one else mentioned this already and i just missed it but doesnt it seem a bit absurd to anyone else the suggestion that humanity's one common ancestor was around during the golden age of greece? how the hell would said ancestor make it down into australia or the americas fast enough to become the single common ancestor for all of humanity? i'm certain that south america and australia still have blood lines that havent been touched by individuals from outside their continent and those populations were established well before the golden age of greece.
It seems kind of hasty to jump to this conclusion. I personally know two individuals who do independent tech work, advertising in the local newspaper and through word of mouth. Both are highly competent and on the rare occasion I find myself needing to consult with an outside source for tech help they have always come through for me (of course I get my help for free).
One's a full time student using this as a means of making some money on the side and the other is just somebody who enjoys the personal freedom this kind of work affords him and isn't overly concerned about making allot of money.
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the point of an rts isnt really to play a role. you don't select the "you move over there and shoot that guy in the face" text option when you want to tell one of your soldiers to attack another unit. you left click on the guy and then right click on its target and off your unit goes. that's what i mean about an rts being too abstract to call an rpg.
with your looser use of the term literaly almost any game could be called an rpg. at that point you would have only one catagory of game, which would be silly.
yes but using two big generic catagories like that doesnt tell you anything about the games that fall under them. putting both quake and baulder's gate (two radicaly different games) into the same catagory of role playing is kind of silly.
plus (just to nit-pick), an rts is most deffinitly not a role playing game as you are simply not playing a role (except in a few exceptions where it's part of the story you are in fact not god in an rts). your position in most rts games is far too abstract to discribe it as role playing.
wouldn't this be defamation? i would think putting some one who has not been convicted of a sex offence in a data base for sex offenders would fall under the catagory of dafamation.
i also love this bit from the article...
A civilly declared offender, however, could petition the court to have the person's name removed from the new list after six years if there have been no new problems and the judge believes the person is unlikely to abuse again
unlikely to abuse again!? but if they've abused before then why havent they been convicted?
The article does state that this is an alternative to opening up a one time windoew to bring civil suits againts catholic priests for alleged sexual abuse but this seems like it has massive potential for abuse. even if this is only used for profiling priests it still doesnt address the issue that some of these priest may not have done anything wrong.
Not that this is especially important but why does the topic line say "colours" given that the site admins have stated several times that this is an American site?
Everyone will have to forgive me because this is completely off topic but this is really annoying the piss out of me.
Your signature The "USAPATRIOT" Act has nothing to do with patriotism, so I pronounce it "the you sap at riot act" to avoid confusion. literally makes absolutely no sense and is annoying. While I am certainly not a fan of the PATRIOT act suggesting that its acronym means or should read something completely unintelligible is neither funny or interesting.
As good old John Nowak politely pointed out (sarcasm) I read the study wrong. The real amount is 12.5 percent of Americans 50+ play games (based off the numbers on the ESA report), which only emphasizes my point that not many older people play games.
I do agree with you, however, that the Wii controller offers interesting interface options to those who might not have the manual dexterity they used to have.
well you are correct (sorry i was busy at work and misread the study) but my point still stands. Given that only 50 percent of Americans play games (from the study) and that only 25 percent of those people are 50+ the number of people 50+ playing games is actually less than 25 percent.
So congrats on being great and finding fault but said fault was irrelevant. You do earn an A+ for arrogance and being an ass (I would call it trolling) with your "Why do I even bother with Games postings..." comment, however. Thanks!
Who says older folks don't play games?
Statistics do. Here's some research done by the ESA on the subject http://www.theesa.com/facts/gamer_data.php . Only 25 percent of the 50+ age group plays games and you can bet the bulk of that group is clustered towards 50 years of age and less around 64. Certainly in the future there will be more older gamers but right now the number of people 64 or older playing games is fairly small.
Regardless of his professional work (which is edited by an editor mind you) using a blog as a resource is still slop. Further more my examples of his extremely sloppy work in at the one randomly selected artical from that site indicates that he may need an editor to keep a proper level of journalistic quality.
While I am most definitely not a republican and I'm not refuting anything you are saying, you should furnish better sources for your arguments if you're going to hurl about such a massive accusation as that. Greg Palast seems to be hardly a reputable source for something "we all know". In just a quick peak at his site I find this little gem
In a deft maneuver at the end of last week, Bush rammed through Congress a massive reduction in the inheritance tax.
Nothing of the sort happened. For starters this is a republican agenda, not just a Bush one so stating Bush did this is stupid. Second and more importantly, this was not rammed through congress. the House voted in favor of it but it did not clear the Senate. The beginning of the article is precious too, with the author insinuating that the estate tax cut was going to some how victimize poor, wealthy, elderly women. I don't know much about Greg Palast but at least this one article I read reeks of bloggish, crap journalism.
While I will agree that both parties are subject to corruption I find your examples of moral or immoral actions on the part of the democrat and republican parties a bit skewed.
Republicans brought an end to slavery in America.
Wow, talk about a radicaly outdated reference. The republican party of Lincoln is almost nothing like the party of today. packeteer said it well when he said it was liberals who freed the slaves, not modern day republicans.
I also find it funny that, that is the most recent positive deed you can come with for the republican party. speaks wonders for them.
Democrats let 1,000,000 Rwandans die.
Both parties are guilty of ignoring Africa. I don't see Bush Jr. rushing to do anything about the situation in Sudan and the massive loss of life taking place there. I should also mention before some one says "it's because we're too busy with Iraq" that there was plenty of violence happening in Africa prior to 9/11 and America's military adventurism in the middle east.
I've never done anything of the sort. I'm referring to my own experience in which my tags were expired on my car, which violated a rule the complex had to prevent abandoned vehicles. I am a low-income college student and at the time I was having problems paying off a ticket (42mph in a 30mph zone) and therefore wasn't able to register my vehicle on time. I was constantly harass by elderly elements of my condo association despite never having had a previous complaint against me for about 2 years (I had made them fully aware of my fiscal situation) and despite the fact that the vehicle was certainly not abandoned. I literally had to park my car in a nearby complex just to get some peace.
That and delivering meals to the elderly in a volunteer capacity (my high school required volunteer service) for about a year has lead me to the conclusion that there are indeed segments of the elderly who really do hate everyone. Furthermore, these people will go to great lengths to cause grief for others just for the righteous glory of it.
What are we playing Magic the Gathering here?
The article states that they've already tried going through the police with no success. My statement was made with the assumption that they has persued all avenues along this path.
In regards to community government, trying to get anything out of them for something as small as this would take months. Months of enduring a horrible high pitch sound while trying to relaxe in their yard.
The only time efficient solution I could come with for if I was in that situation would be to go over there and smash it.
God bless gun owners. Capital punishment for petty vandalism dished out by any ignorant joe. I love America.
Or at night, plan a raid, whereby you break the device in such a fashion that all the nice little leds stay on...
Screw that. I'd just head over there at 3 in the morning and smash it with a hammer (and I'm dead serious for those looking to mod this funny). I've had to deal with people of this sort in dealing with my condo association and let me tell you, there are certain segments of the elderly who literally hate everyone. Given that the police will do nothing about this, the only option is to take things into your own hands. These units are fairly expensive and some one on a limited budget (such as your typical elderly neighbor) will likely not have the resources to replace such a device. I would Hop the fence at three in the morning and anything that looked like it might be emitting the sound would be either stolen or smashed.
For anyone who has moral concerns over smashing the property of an elderly person, said person should take into consideration the fact that this elderly person has installed a device which targets young neighbors regardless of their actions or behavior. Punishing all individuals of a given group regardless of guilt is certainly immoral. Furthermore, said elderly neighbor has plenty of options through the local police department in dealing with disturbances and has no right to take things into their own hands
Given that the police will do nothing about this, one has no option but to take things into ones own hands.
Of course if you choose this course of action you should be careful in doing so and recongnize the fact that it is illegal. I'm really just saying what I would personally do and not necessarily what you should do.
I'm scratching my head over what you said about the gamecube. you say you hate it but then go on to say you love nintendo's first party games. now the gamecube really didnt do all that much different from the n64, it just had a bit more power behind it. so this leads me to ask, why hate the gamecube and yet love nintendo and its earlier systems?
No, it's her political leftism that they are attacking. Otherwise why not call her a fascist for an even better response. As an added bonus, communism doesnt even directly imply dictatorial style rule. Marx never established how a communist nation was to run. This would become a major problem for those revolutionaries attempting to put his ideology into practice.
The site the add was for was http://www.thoseshirts.com/ and is most definitely a company pandering to the right wing.
Also, I should note that I would find a news agency with adds pandering to the far left also a questionable source for information.
does anybody know anything about UPI? (i dont) it's linked to as the source for the article on chinese fusion. i ask because there was an add for shirts labeling hillary clinton as a communist on the site. i dont care what your political affiliation is it should be obvious that she is not a communist. seeing this kind of advertising (what one should recognize as extremist advertising, regardless of left or right political alignment) does not speak well of the source.
this is classic "part of the problem" thinking. I prefer to be a member of the "part of the solution crowd".
holy crap that's cool
What is the PS3 really providing that the xbox isn't? They've got what might be the next home video format support and what appears to be a last minute tacked on motion sensor on the controler. Meanwhile the 360 has Live.
I'll allow that I might be missing something but I really don't see any of this "potential" that you're refering to in the PS3 above and beyond the potential in the 360.
Of course the parent is talking about video games and you're talking about portable digital audio players which last time i checked were not in fact video games.
The ipods success in Japan versus the xbox's lack there of has to do with the fact that there has not been a historical dominance in portable mp3 players by japanese companies. Furthermore, there is nothing culturaly distinctive between a Japanese made mp3 player and an American one where as there are substancial differences between games made and played between the two countries.
So in conclusion your ipod analogy does not work.
maybe some one else mentioned this already and i just missed it but doesnt it seem a bit absurd to anyone else the suggestion that humanity's one common ancestor was around during the golden age of greece? how the hell would said ancestor make it down into australia or the americas fast enough to become the single common ancestor for all of humanity? i'm certain that south america and australia still have blood lines that havent been touched by individuals from outside their continent and those populations were established well before the golden age of greece.
It seems kind of hasty to jump to this conclusion. I personally know two individuals who do independent tech work, advertising in the local newspaper and through word of mouth. Both are highly competent and on the rare occasion I find myself needing to consult with an outside source for tech help they have always come through for me (of course I get my help for free). One's a full time student using this as a means of making some money on the side and the other is just somebody who enjoys the personal freedom this kind of work affords him and isn't overly concerned about making allot of money.