"And how would you fill up your WalMarts? Americans don't manufacture anything anymore... "
I didn't know America was the only country on the planet other than China?
India, Taiwan (for the win), Pakistan, Vietnam, Mexico, South America *.*.. etc etc.
It's this kind of thinking that is holding the public back from taking action, stop spreading this nonsense around. Not buying Made in China =/= Only buying Made in USA.
IBM has long since gotten out of the OS and application suite game, just like you said so why is it relevant to today? Look at what they are doing today for a valid comparison. They're into networking, consulting, and open standards for communication. Among other things. So, what the guy was saying is that they were winning in this realm, not winning in some imaginary OS war that ended 10 years ago.
We should have to have a separate branch of Judges that are semi-experts in a field. It's mind boggling how much power judges have in our society. And yet I'm sure some of them are baffled by things that 10 year olds know instinctively.
I hope that works out for you. I do worry that paraphrasing corporate letters won't have the same credibility to the public at large, than the actual letters themselves.
Problem is the "[the letter said]" part looks like he / said she / said crap. How often do people paraphrase and embellish things to fit their own purposes?
"Man I got fired because I was late one time."
Turns out the guy left early 5 times, was warned about working the full shift, and then was late once which was enough to fire him.
Due to people's inherent need to exaggerate things to get support / sympathy, the actual letter a company sent is going to be more powerful and have much more of a psychological effect on the public. "There it is in black and white, there is no denying what's on the letter." But there is denying a paraphrase.
My $0.02
Consultants != programmers. Well, maybe they were at one point.
I had an acquaintance who worked at AOL, of all places, as a developer. They were developing not something new to the public, but a new toolset for their employees to use when customers called in. They hired 200 consultants from a consulting firm, at some $600 at hour. Though their hours are not 8 hour days, but more about the meetings they attend. Anyway, he said these 200 some odd guys would attend meetings and randomly throw out "buzzwords", like "object oriented", and "scalable" and stuff like that. That is all they did. They would do that so they would get paid for that session. Most of them didn't talk more than once the whole meeting.
Oh and the project got nowhere and was abandoned after 6 months. Mythical man month and all that.
That's the kind of thing he's referring to. I know there are some real useful consultants out there, but you've also got these other guys that give a bad stereotype.
IIRC they are also made of the same stuff our own cells are made of. Bacteria are targeted by breaking down chemicals in their cell walls that our cells don't have. Killing viruses directly = killing us. I think.
How did they teach OS, compilers, low level networking, etc etc with Java?
Did they switch over just the introductory classes to java? Or everything. If it's just introductory stuff that's fine. The people who know C already will do well in the later stage classes, and the people who don't won't make it.
Agreed. I thought the whole point of using Java was to focus on using Algorithms to solve problems, and the whole basis of a CS degree is finding patterns in code and scientifically analyzing which ones work the best. And they make it clear that programming language picks are not very relevant because your skills in algorithms, OO, and other concepts will allow you to pick up any language and learn it quickly.
If you want to learn C++ buy a book, or ten.
Good point. What good is travel going to do if we have the same issues on the place we arrive to. Well, initially we will have near 0 resources and the amount of efficiency to sustain us will have to be amazing. Solving problems here on earth starts to seem more appealing. Until we can make those Genesis Torpedos in Star Trek.
IIRC we do not ban China's toys. Consumers themselves have taken it upon themselves to not buy them. Our government has stopped sticking up for us in trade issues for some time now. Mostly due to breathless corporate interest groups worried about losing their Christmas bonus if we stop exploiting weary foreigners for their cheap labor and inability to stick up for themselves.
China's government sees how greed driven we are and ironically exploits us for it. Mattel publicly apologized for "faulty design" of toys that were painted with lead in China, despite that not being in the recipe. Who could make a corporation take one on the chin like that and embarrass itself? The #1 source of toy labor in the world, that's who. If they had given China the bird, then they would be denied the deals and Hasbro or Fisher Price would promptly put them out of business. China has our corporations by the balls, and our corporations have our government by the balls. That's why we are having trouble staying ahead. We've had saboteurs in our midst, who only cared about satiating their own greed, and not the future of our country.
And I disagree, there are no other competitors in this game. It's the US and China. Everyone else is watching with popcorn. No one else is close, IMO. Europe could have been but they'd rather enjoy a high standard of living instead of paying billions for defense initiatives. I guess they don't buy into the broken window fallacy.
Well you could say that Open source includes the innovation of a free software paradigm. One that despite criticism keeps getting better. But beyond that, I'd say the most impressive stuff in OSS is in the linux OS and GUI's. You want to talk about copying, Windows Vista now asks for a password when making control panel settings. Where have I seen that before? For years? As well a lot of the Vista "special" effects were available as options in gnome for some time now.
Firefox was successful enough to "force" Microsoft to update IE. Firefox still has better security, not arbitrarily installing things without user interaction; even waiting 3 seconds to make sure the user has time to think about what they are installing. If IE doesn't do that now (I don't use IE 7), then it probably will in a future release. Tabbed browsing in IE7? What an amazing innovation.
I know what you mean. But if you think about it, a good part of open source software is filling a "need." There is a need for a java IDE that has x features. There is a need for a full featured text editor with extra utilities for editing code. There is a need for convenience installers for linux programs. There is a need for games. Wait, what kind of games?
There is where it becomes very open ended and not well defined. The passion of wanting to develop an open source application to fulfill a need does not mesh with the artistic vision of commercial game developers. So they can implement bland imitations of popular games, or games that just don't have widespread appeal.
It would help if when someone was inspired to make a ground breaking game, they would say "I'm making this for linux, screw making money." After this point I'm guessing, but it seems more likely that given significant inspiration for a game, someone will go to work for commercial companies. At that point making a linux version becomes laughable among bean counters who only see numbers of customers, and don't share a passion for free software.
There's probably more to it, but that is my initial take on it.
Oddly enough, I think he means that the netscape issue was the first big "omg microsoft is a monopoly" issue raised. At least the first one the public could relate to. And had netscape not been killed off by IE they might've been allowed to be monopolistic longer. Though this is fairly speculatory.
Forgive my ignorance, is online gambling even an export? People browse to find the sites themselves, regardless of where its from. It's not something any country can "count on" as some kind of good. Why is their country the "supplier of online gambling?" Couldn't any country make this claim?
The difference between Steroids and Mind enhancers is that Steroids are actually proven to increase performance. Snake oil brain pills aren't a threat to anyone.
Dumb sales people or not, you would be damaging their merchandise. Especially if its jewelry. They might be dumb, but you don't have the right to do kind of test until you purchase your item. So.. there must be a better way.
You know, it's cute to refer to "the big four" browsers, but you could've at least listed what you think those are - we are not mind readers.
Had it been "the non-removable one pre-bundled with world's most popular OS, and the one that established a significant market share despite being completely optional", then most people would know what you meant.
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"And how would you fill up your WalMarts? Americans don't manufacture anything anymore... " I didn't know America was the only country on the planet other than China? India, Taiwan (for the win), Pakistan, Vietnam, Mexico, South America *.*.. etc etc. It's this kind of thinking that is holding the public back from taking action, stop spreading this nonsense around. Not buying Made in China =/= Only buying Made in USA.
Check.Every.Label.
IBM has long since gotten out of the OS and application suite game, just like you said so why is it relevant to today? Look at what they are doing today for a valid comparison. They're into networking, consulting, and open standards for communication. Among other things. So, what the guy was saying is that they were winning in this realm, not winning in some imaginary OS war that ended 10 years ago.
Thank you for introducing me to this game. It looks like it will be a staple along with OpenArena.
We should have to have a separate branch of Judges that are semi-experts in a field. It's mind boggling how much power judges have in our society. And yet I'm sure some of them are baffled by things that 10 year olds know instinctively.
I hope that works out for you. I do worry that paraphrasing corporate letters won't have the same credibility to the public at large, than the actual letters themselves.
Problem is the "[the letter said]" part looks like he / said she / said crap. How often do people paraphrase and embellish things to fit their own purposes? "Man I got fired because I was late one time." Turns out the guy left early 5 times, was warned about working the full shift, and then was late once which was enough to fire him. Due to people's inherent need to exaggerate things to get support / sympathy, the actual letter a company sent is going to be more powerful and have much more of a psychological effect on the public. "There it is in black and white, there is no denying what's on the letter." But there is denying a paraphrase. My $0.02
Consultants != programmers. Well, maybe they were at one point. I had an acquaintance who worked at AOL, of all places, as a developer. They were developing not something new to the public, but a new toolset for their employees to use when customers called in. They hired 200 consultants from a consulting firm, at some $600 at hour. Though their hours are not 8 hour days, but more about the meetings they attend. Anyway, he said these 200 some odd guys would attend meetings and randomly throw out "buzzwords", like "object oriented", and "scalable" and stuff like that. That is all they did. They would do that so they would get paid for that session. Most of them didn't talk more than once the whole meeting. Oh and the project got nowhere and was abandoned after 6 months. Mythical man month and all that. That's the kind of thing he's referring to. I know there are some real useful consultants out there, but you've also got these other guys that give a bad stereotype.
I thought your lawyer worked for you? You can't tell your lawyer "I'm not settling?"
IIRC they are also made of the same stuff our own cells are made of. Bacteria are targeted by breaking down chemicals in their cell walls that our cells don't have. Killing viruses directly = killing us. I think.
How did they teach OS, compilers, low level networking, etc etc with Java? Did they switch over just the introductory classes to java? Or everything. If it's just introductory stuff that's fine. The people who know C already will do well in the later stage classes, and the people who don't won't make it.
I'm not sure what to think about that.
Maybe you should just come out and say that Java programmers are lazy or something, I think that's the gist of it.
Agreed. I thought the whole point of using Java was to focus on using Algorithms to solve problems, and the whole basis of a CS degree is finding patterns in code and scientifically analyzing which ones work the best. And they make it clear that programming language picks are not very relevant because your skills in algorithms, OO, and other concepts will allow you to pick up any language and learn it quickly. If you want to learn C++ buy a book, or ten.
"It's" is a contraction for "it is."
Good point. What good is travel going to do if we have the same issues on the place we arrive to. Well, initially we will have near 0 resources and the amount of efficiency to sustain us will have to be amazing. Solving problems here on earth starts to seem more appealing. Until we can make those Genesis Torpedos in Star Trek.
IIRC we do not ban China's toys. Consumers themselves have taken it upon themselves to not buy them. Our government has stopped sticking up for us in trade issues for some time now. Mostly due to breathless corporate interest groups worried about losing their Christmas bonus if we stop exploiting weary foreigners for their cheap labor and inability to stick up for themselves. China's government sees how greed driven we are and ironically exploits us for it. Mattel publicly apologized for "faulty design" of toys that were painted with lead in China, despite that not being in the recipe. Who could make a corporation take one on the chin like that and embarrass itself? The #1 source of toy labor in the world, that's who. If they had given China the bird, then they would be denied the deals and Hasbro or Fisher Price would promptly put them out of business. China has our corporations by the balls, and our corporations have our government by the balls. That's why we are having trouble staying ahead. We've had saboteurs in our midst, who only cared about satiating their own greed, and not the future of our country. And I disagree, there are no other competitors in this game. It's the US and China. Everyone else is watching with popcorn. No one else is close, IMO. Europe could have been but they'd rather enjoy a high standard of living instead of paying billions for defense initiatives. I guess they don't buy into the broken window fallacy.
They probably already have a knock off in China.
Well you could say that Open source includes the innovation of a free software paradigm. One that despite criticism keeps getting better. But beyond that, I'd say the most impressive stuff in OSS is in the linux OS and GUI's. You want to talk about copying, Windows Vista now asks for a password when making control panel settings. Where have I seen that before? For years? As well a lot of the Vista "special" effects were available as options in gnome for some time now. Firefox was successful enough to "force" Microsoft to update IE. Firefox still has better security, not arbitrarily installing things without user interaction; even waiting 3 seconds to make sure the user has time to think about what they are installing. If IE doesn't do that now (I don't use IE 7), then it probably will in a future release. Tabbed browsing in IE7? What an amazing innovation.
I know what you mean. But if you think about it, a good part of open source software is filling a "need." There is a need for a java IDE that has x features. There is a need for a full featured text editor with extra utilities for editing code. There is a need for convenience installers for linux programs. There is a need for games. Wait, what kind of games? There is where it becomes very open ended and not well defined. The passion of wanting to develop an open source application to fulfill a need does not mesh with the artistic vision of commercial game developers. So they can implement bland imitations of popular games, or games that just don't have widespread appeal. It would help if when someone was inspired to make a ground breaking game, they would say "I'm making this for linux, screw making money." After this point I'm guessing, but it seems more likely that given significant inspiration for a game, someone will go to work for commercial companies. At that point making a linux version becomes laughable among bean counters who only see numbers of customers, and don't share a passion for free software. There's probably more to it, but that is my initial take on it.
The mp3's couldn't be "Made in China" (legally at least), so Walmart abandoned it for having a poor profit margin.
Oddly enough, I think he means that the netscape issue was the first big "omg microsoft is a monopoly" issue raised. At least the first one the public could relate to. And had netscape not been killed off by IE they might've been allowed to be monopolistic longer. Though this is fairly speculatory.
Forgive my ignorance, is online gambling even an export? People browse to find the sites themselves, regardless of where its from. It's not something any country can "count on" as some kind of good. Why is their country the "supplier of online gambling?" Couldn't any country make this claim?
The difference between Steroids and Mind enhancers is that Steroids are actually proven to increase performance. Snake oil brain pills aren't a threat to anyone.
Dumb sales people or not, you would be damaging their merchandise. Especially if its jewelry. They might be dumb, but you don't have the right to do kind of test until you purchase your item. So.. there must be a better way.
You know, it's cute to refer to "the big four" browsers, but you could've at least listed what you think those are - we are not mind readers.
Had it been "the non-removable one pre-bundled with world's most popular OS, and the one that established a significant market share despite being completely optional", then most people would know what you meant.
FTFY