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I'm all for nice shell features, and I agree that a powerful CLI is a great tool for computer people, but there's plenty of stuff cmd.exe can in fact do which many (including you, apparently) don't realize. For example:
If I have a command line tool that converts TIFF -> PNG or whatever, I can do tiff2png *.tiff *.png and be done with it
Indeed. Try
for %1 in (*.tiff) do @tiff2png %1 %~n1.png
Is it what you're used to? No. Is it as simple? Arguably not. Does it do the job? Hell yeah.
Read up, and a lot of "what you *think* you should be able to" is indeed possible with cmd.exe. It's not always the nicest; not always prettiest. But it's often right there ready for you when you need/want it.
I know people who would consider an Apple laptop if they thought they could get Free Software to run
For every one of those, there are 50 people who will buy an Apple because "it just works". They care as much about the philosophy of the software as they do about the philosophy of the software on their washing machine or toaster.
They have stuff they want to do (do laundry, toast bread, send email). Why would they care about the obsessions of the F/OSS movement?
KABINDA, ZAIRE--In a move IBM offices are hailing as a major step in the company's ongoing worldwide telecommunications revolution, M'wana Ndeti, a member of Zaire's Bantu tribe, used an IBM global uplink network modem yesterday to crush a nut.
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According to Ndeti, of the modem's many powerful features, most impressive was its hard plastic casing, which easily sustained several minutes of vigorous pounding against a large stone. "I put the nut on a rock, and I hit it with the modem," Ndeti said. "The modem did not break. It is a good modem."
OK, there seems to be a lot of confusion here. I have heard, but do not have confirmation that the MS Word license includes a clause that says you will not open/modify any files you create in anything but Word.
You are contributing to the confusion. I have just read the Word 2003 EULA and no such clause exists.
One platform line? You mean like XP Home, XP Pro, and XP Media Center?
Yes, that's exactly what is meant. Do you understand what a platform line is?
Considering the average lifespan for a PC is 3 years, the fact there are any machines running 2000, let alone 9x, is pitiful.
What are you talking about? If the average lifespan of a PC is 3 years, is that supposed to mean that no 4,5,6-year-old PCs exist? Of course they do. XP came out October 2001; do the math. What's pitiful?
Can you explain how it doesn't qualify? I think you may be confused: you mentioned non-compliance with the HIG, but the HIG isn't referenced at all from the "Designed for Windows XP" specification.
Use F10. One press of F10 activates the main menu, both on Linux and Windows. Another press dismisses the menu.
Not quite correct. Try this in Windows (eg. in Firefox, which I'm using now): press F10. File menu highlights, right? Press it again; file menu highlight disappears. All hunky dory.
Now press down-arrow. See now where that highlight actually moved to? F10 didn't dismiss the menu modality entirely... it just moved it to the System menu. It takes one more press to move entirely out of "menu mode"...
Funnily enough, you won't find this behavior consistent across the three of Notepad, Firefox and Explorer. This experiment is left as an exercise for the reader.
actually by almost any definition my SIP phone is not a server, it does not accept incoming TCP connections
The SIP RFC (3261) actually requires that SIP devices accept incoming TCP connections; support for TCP is mandated in normative text in the specification.
Of course not all SIP clients are compliant with the RFC (sounds like yours isn't), but that's a different matter...
If it was as simple as blocking all SIP, then they would be cutting all MSN Messenger service, and that would not be a good business move.
MSN Messenger doesn't use SIP; it uses a proprietary protocol so blocking SIP will have no effect on it. Windows Messenger, on the other hand (and not to be confused with the Windows Messenger Service) is a triple-stack client, speaking SIP, MSN Messenger's protocol and Microsoft Exchange's IM protocol. It uses SIP for working with Office Live Communication Server, previously known as RTC Server.
The Court finds that the license agreements are enforceable contracts under both California
and Missouri law. California courts have enforced end user license agreements, which are valid under California law.
but it also disagrees with your assertion that you can't wave a statutory right:
The defendants in this case waived their
"fair use" right to reverse engineer by agreeing to the licensing agreement. Parties may waive their statutory rights under law in a contract.
Probably not directly what you're thinking about, but you should have a look at the Java SIP Servlet specification. SIP Servlets are to SIP (a VoIP signalling protocol) what "normal" Java servlets are to HTTP, and provides an object model for the underlying protocol. It's very simple, and neat being able to produce voice/telephony applications and services in Java.
How else would you do it? Cookies aren't reliable...
Ahhh! So you're saying that they wouldn't use cookies because they're not reliable, but it "seems logical" that they're using IP addresses, which---ahem---you were arguing above wouldn't produce reliable results.
Glad we've got that straight.
Our e-mail team wants us to forward SPAM to them so they can tweak the filter, BUT, if you do them Outlook will d/l images which tells the low-life spammers that I'm a real account. Brilliant...
Send them the spam message as an attachment to a new message. That way: (1) they will still have the original headers intact; (2) the images remain undownloaded.
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I'm all for nice shell features, and I agree that a powerful CLI is a great tool for computer people, but there's plenty of stuff cmd.exe can in fact do which many (including you, apparently) don't realize. For example:
Indeed. Try
for %1 in (*.tiff) do @tiff2png %1 %~n1.png
Is it what you're used to? No. Is it as simple? Arguably not. Does it do the job? Hell yeah.
Read up, and a lot of "what you *think* you should be able to" is indeed possible with cmd.exe. It's not always the nicest; not always prettiest. But it's often right there ready for you when you need/want it.
service providers want real operating systems on their hardware
Easy there tiger. Or were you thinking about service providers other than the three biggest in NA?
I know people who would consider an Apple laptop if they thought they could get Free Software to run
For every one of those, there are 50 people who will buy an Apple because "it just works". They care as much about the philosophy of the software as they do about the philosophy of the software on their washing machine or toaster.
They have stuff they want to do (do laundry, toast bread, send email). Why would they care about the obsessions of the F/OSS movement?
Most likely they will use the mouse as a slingshot and head back into the jungle.
Reminds me of this Onion article.
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I would hope that Icann would jump in and help out even if he is a little guy. I mean that's what they exist for right?
No, it's not. From the linked page, "ICANN does not resolve individual customer complaints".
OK, there seems to be a lot of confusion here. I have heard, but do not have confirmation that the MS Word license includes a clause that says you will not open/modify any files you create in anything but Word.
You are contributing to the confusion. I have just read the Word 2003 EULA and no such clause exists.
One platform line? You mean like XP Home, XP Pro, and XP Media Center?
Yes, that's exactly what is meant. Do you understand what a platform line is?
Considering the average lifespan for a PC is 3 years, the fact there are any machines running 2000, let alone 9x, is pitiful.
What are you talking about? If the average lifespan of a PC is 3 years, is that supposed to mean that no 4,5,6-year-old PCs exist? Of course they do. XP came out October 2001; do the math. What's pitiful?
Can you explain how it doesn't qualify? I think you may be confused: you mentioned non-compliance with the HIG, but the HIG isn't referenced at all from the "Designed for Windows XP" specification.
Take a look at the Designed for Windows XP Application Specification and let us know which bit you think Office doesn't comply with.
Use F10. One press of F10 activates the main menu, both on Linux and Windows. Another press dismisses the menu.
Not quite correct. Try this in Windows (eg. in Firefox, which I'm using now): press F10. File menu highlights, right? Press it again; file menu highlight disappears. All hunky dory.
Now press down-arrow. See now where that highlight actually moved to? F10 didn't dismiss the menu modality entirely... it just moved it to the System menu. It takes one more press to move entirely out of "menu mode"...
Funnily enough, you won't find this behavior consistent across the three of Notepad, Firefox and Explorer. This experiment is left as an exercise for the reader.
Dude, congratulations on your patience. A great post.
No; the pigeon-hole principle is that when you have n slots and >n items, at least one slot must be used more then once. It applies perfectly here.
See http://mathworld.wolfram.com/DirichletsBoxPrincipl e.html.
actually by almost any definition my SIP phone is not a server, it does not accept incoming TCP connections
The SIP RFC (3261) actually requires that SIP devices accept incoming TCP connections; support for TCP is mandated in normative text in the specification.
Of course not all SIP clients are compliant with the RFC (sounds like yours isn't), but that's a different matter...
If it was as simple as blocking all SIP, then they would be cutting all MSN Messenger service, and that would not be a good business move.
MSN Messenger doesn't use SIP; it uses a proprietary protocol so blocking SIP will have no effect on it. Windows Messenger, on the other hand (and not to be confused with the Windows Messenger Service) is a triple-stack client, speaking SIP, MSN Messenger's protocol and Microsoft Exchange's IM protocol. It uses SIP for working with Office Live Communication Server, previously known as RTC Server.
Not only does the court uphold the EULA:
but it also disagrees with your assertion that you can't wave a statutory right:Ubiquity and Dynamicsoft have SIP Servlet containers implementing the spec; there's also a reference implementation here to play with.