Likewise, currently you'll get in trouble if you take photos in the subway station in Tashkent, Uzbekistan. It's a pity because the subway stations there, as in Moscow, are sometimes surprisingly beautiful and photo-worthy. The police, as far as I know, are SUPPOSED to do this. The police also stop people at random and check their documents. It's unpleasant.
There's a lot to like about Uzbekistan, but the current government is not included. I hope I don't get any trouble for posting this.
Remember, courts want to encourage compliance with court orders or government agency orders instead of everyone pulling a Google.
No. You're conflating the judiciary and executive. Judges might be biased to see that people comply with other courts' orders, but I don't think that, in GENERAL, you'd find that most judges are biased in favor of the prosecutor, e.g., DOJ subpoena-ing Google.
Thanks, paiute. For the rest of you, d'ya know why it's "bated"? Because it means "restrained" or "moderated" -- like you are waiting to exhale, waiting to breathe a big sigh of relief. You still see a cognate of this in phrases like "The storm abated" or "Best Buy offers a price rebate."
So, y'all are going to remember this from now on, right??
Under what contexts are the murder of thousands of innocent children acceptable? Or unleashing biological weapons on the entire Egyptian population? Or disrupting their water supply? Do you not see the parallels between Moses' actions and modern-day terrorism?
Just the other day I was working on a C++ program using a linked list, which had a routine that had allocated a bunch of list nodes off the heap, and was about to deallocate them, when I heard a wee voice. The objects all squeaked out at me in a peeping little voice, "Where the HELL do you get off deleting us? Why, these here nodes didn't even get USED, you sloppy bastard!"
That's when I decided to stop mixing antifreeze into my martinis. Sure it adds pep, but it's just not worth it.
It's a question of authority. I sympathize with your anger -- sometimes I feel it too. (Twenty years ago for me it was RAGE--probably about something else and sublimated.) The book of Job is practically one long rant on the same theme. The thing is that, if God exists at all, then ultimately (rationally) we are not in any position to judge him fairly. He claims the authority to end our life, alongside his authority to begin it.
If a really big person (like, uh, Hercules crossed with Godzilla) went and did the doom-y things God did we would justly call him a monster. But God also gives life -- makes the trees blossom in the spring, lifts the fallen, protects the weak, etc. etc. Herculozilla doesn't do that. Basically God is in his own category, and can't be (rationally) judged like we judge other people. He can give life and take it away; he can raise up and bring low. So how are we to form an opinion? The standard Christian answer is to consider the cross as the ultimate statement of which side God is on. I read your later reply that the cross strikes you as self-contradictory also. I think of it more as puzzling but self-consistent, just counter-intuitive, like say the equivalency of deterministic and nondeterministic finite automata. It is no more perverse a theory than the quantum mechanical explanation of the double-slit experiment.
I think you must mean 'fair trade' not 'free trade' -- yes? Big difference.
"Free trade" means the invisible hand of the market is strangling Juan Valdez and holding him in wage slavery. Whereas in principle "fair trade" means that the coffee growers get a high enough price for their beans to, in fact, eat regularly, clothe themselves and their children, and probably even keep a roof over their heads. The price of a cuppa-joe must be somewhat higher, but one may enjoy the benefits of less conscience-smiting.
You don't pay tuition, you pay for tuition. Tuition is the education, the learning, the tutoring that you get. And $31,200 (or whatever) is the PRICE of this super-duper quality Stanford tuition.
If such a stand doesn't come from the populace themselves...
You have a point, but Google would be a fantastic tool for enabling the populace (which is restive, there is no doubt) to do so. Whereas, on the contrary, they are siding with the oppressors.
... all they really are is a business...
Maybe so, but they CLAIMED they were trying to be something more; I am disappointed. And they are NOT simply indexing information, they are doing that, and then also sanitizing it according to the wishes of the government. That second step there has ethical overtones I think you are overlooking.
I don't know where this comes from, the idea that Google should be making a stand for free speech
Many of us would say "standing up for free speech" is included in the "don't be evil" motto.
How do you know that they are only censoring one little site, and that they would never censor their other sites? Is it because their motto is "do no evil" with the unwritten addendum "(unless that inhibits expanding our market)?"
My point: the basis for trust has been eroded. I now have less confidence in Google.
Google has almost no choice in the matter.
Sound business tactics, but the situation is hardly their fault.
But they did have a choice, and their choice was to cave in. It is not sound business tactics if you make it your business to do no evil. They are burning their karma to keep themselves warm.
You can't follow two masters: you can't serve both (good) and Mammon.
In response to moving the queen... the opponent replied (audibly): "A woman's place is in the kitchen."
Ironic, because that piece that in English you call the Queen, is in Russian called the Ferz', basically, the king's "Grand Vizier" -- a traditionally masculine role. It is Karl Rove, not Laura Bush.
I dunno, can you bark out, "Stop slouching and get back to work!" or something like that? "You're going to leave a mark! No loitering, you goldbrickers!!"
I know there are lots of talented sw. engineers in Redmond, and I'd expect some portion of them like to hack on Linux or BSD. Who knows, maybe they've even formed a users' group or something. What do you know about the "extracurricular activities" of MS engineers, in connection with Linux? If any?
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Likewise, currently you'll get in trouble if you take photos in the subway station in Tashkent, Uzbekistan. It's a pity because the subway stations there, as in Moscow, are sometimes surprisingly beautiful and photo-worthy. The police, as far as I know, are SUPPOSED to do this. The police also stop people at random and check their documents. It's unpleasant.
There's a lot to like about Uzbekistan, but the current government is not included. I hope I don't get any trouble for posting this.
Remember, courts want to encourage compliance with court orders or government agency orders instead of everyone pulling a Google.
No. You're conflating the judiciary and executive. Judges might be biased to see that people comply with other courts' orders, but I don't think that, in GENERAL, you'd find that most judges are biased in favor of the prosecutor, e.g., DOJ subpoena-ing Google.
...as not informative. As the above AC noted, his name is a none-too-bizarre Russian last name.
Thanks, paiute. For the rest of you, d'ya know why it's "bated"? Because it means "restrained" or "moderated" -- like you are waiting to exhale, waiting to breathe a big sigh of relief. You still see a cognate of this in phrases like "The storm abated" or "Best Buy offers a price rebate."
So, y'all are going to remember this from now on, right??
Under what contexts are the murder of thousands of innocent children acceptable? Or unleashing biological weapons on the entire Egyptian population? Or disrupting their water supply? Do you not see the parallels between Moses' actions and modern-day terrorism?
Just the other day I was working on a C++ program using a linked list, which had a routine that had allocated a bunch of list nodes off the heap, and was about to deallocate them, when I heard a wee voice. The objects all squeaked out at me in a peeping little voice, "Where the HELL do you get off deleting us? Why, these here nodes didn't even get USED, you sloppy bastard!"
That's when I decided to stop mixing antifreeze into my martinis. Sure it adds pep, but it's just not worth it.
It's a question of authority. I sympathize with your anger -- sometimes I feel it too. (Twenty years ago for me it was RAGE--probably about something else and sublimated.) The book of Job is practically one long rant on the same theme. The thing is that, if God exists at all, then ultimately (rationally) we are not in any position to judge him fairly. He claims the authority to end our life, alongside his authority to begin it.
If a really big person (like, uh, Hercules crossed with Godzilla) went and did the doom-y things God did we would justly call him a monster. But God also gives life -- makes the trees blossom in the spring, lifts the fallen, protects the weak, etc. etc. Herculozilla doesn't do that. Basically God is in his own category, and can't be (rationally) judged like we judge other people. He can give life and take it away; he can raise up and bring low. So how are we to form an opinion? The standard Christian answer is to consider the cross as the ultimate statement of which side God is on. I read your later reply that the cross strikes you as self-contradictory also. I think of it more as puzzling but self-consistent, just counter-intuitive, like say the equivalency of deterministic and nondeterministic finite automata. It is no more perverse a theory than the quantum mechanical explanation of the double-slit experiment.
I like your Exodus/terrorism simile.
I think you must mean 'fair trade' not 'free trade' -- yes? Big difference.
"Free trade" means the invisible hand of the market is strangling Juan Valdez and holding him in wage slavery. Whereas in principle "fair trade" means that the coffee growers get a high enough price for their beans to, in fact, eat regularly, clothe themselves and their children, and probably even keep a roof over their heads. The price of a cuppa-joe must be somewhat higher, but one may enjoy the benefits of less conscience-smiting.
God bless you, mpeg4codec.
2) was that duty breached?
/., your suposed to spell it 'breech' :-)
Since this is
No need to pay the $31,200 tuition.
You don't pay tuition, you pay for tuition. Tuition is the education, the learning, the tutoring that you get. And $31,200 (or whatever) is the PRICE of this super-duper quality Stanford tuition.
When the jackbooted thugs from the Bush Junta kicked at your door ...
What is interesting is, that was (metaphorically) just yesterday. Then this happens today. *Sigh*
Next question: what search engine should I switch to?
If such a stand doesn't come from the populace themselves ...
... all they really are is a business ...
You have a point, but Google would be a fantastic tool for enabling the populace (which is restive, there is no doubt) to do so. Whereas, on the contrary, they are siding with the oppressors.
Maybe so, but they CLAIMED they were trying to be something more; I am disappointed. And they are NOT simply indexing information, they are doing that, and then also sanitizing it according to the wishes of the government. That second step there has ethical overtones I think you are overlooking.
I don't know where this comes from, the idea that Google should be making a stand for free speech
Many of us would say "standing up for free speech" is included in the "don't be evil" motto.
Censoring in google.cn ONLY
How do you know that they are only censoring one little site, and that they would never censor their other sites? Is it because their motto is "do no evil" with the unwritten addendum "(unless that inhibits expanding our market)?"
My point: the basis for trust has been eroded. I now have less confidence in Google.
Google has almost no choice in the matter.
Sound business tactics, but the situation is hardly their fault.
But they did have a choice, and their choice was to cave in. It is not sound business tactics if you make it your business to do no evil. They are burning their karma to keep themselves warm.
You can't follow two masters: you can't serve both (good) and Mammon.
In response to moving the queen ... the opponent replied (audibly): "A woman's place is in the kitchen."
:-)
Ironic, because that piece that in English you call the Queen, is in Russian called the Ferz', basically, the king's "Grand Vizier" -- a traditionally masculine role. It is Karl Rove, not Laura Bush.
Oh wait, maybe that is not such an apt simile.
One of them has breeched the outer perimeter
And what a relief that the outer perimeter has finally got on some trousers!
OMG you used the word "immanently" in a way that was . . . TOTALLY CORRECT!
I feel dizzy... Somebody run and get me my nitroglycerine tablets.
And what percentage, do you suppose, know what the word median means?
You receive "mechanics leans" on your property
I dunno, can you bark out, "Stop slouching and get back to work!" or something like that? "You're going to leave a mark! No loitering, you goldbrickers!!"
What? Oh, liens.
<emily_litella>Never mind.</emily_litella>
Those who deserve to sacrifice history are neither condemned to repeat security nor the freedom to know.- George Franklin
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E plebnista . .
It was feared NSI would "go rouge"
...in a tawdry and tasteless display of makeup madness
dude, it's a joke . . . o noes, here are the commie GPL police come to grab my code!!1
Perhaps buy a sheep or a cotton tree
;-)
Please, tell us more about these "cotton trees" of which you speak....
I know there are lots of talented sw. engineers in Redmond, and I'd expect some portion of them like to hack on Linux or BSD. Who knows, maybe they've even formed a users' group or something. What do you know about the "extracurricular activities" of MS engineers, in connection with Linux? If any?
Then he can exclaim that the limit of e^x as x approaches infinity is infinity.
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:-)
Fast forward to the future . .
ME: "Ha! Well, Mr. Bean, I guess you don't know everything. The proper answer to the question is 'The limit DOES NOT EXIST'."
At least that is what I tell my undergraduates ( more or less).
Look! Someone writing something new in FORTRAN! It's hardly ever seen outside of zoos now.
[aussie] This stuff is REALLY DANGEROUS! [/aussie]