Traveling between countries in Europe is generally similar to traveling between US states (at least at the borders I've crossed). You would still want to carry internationally-recognized ID, and a passport would fit that purpose.
and from what I understand in one day you can drive and cross 2 or more country borders.
Yep. Imagine driving across the Eastern states. There's been more than one day in my life where I've briefly visited three countries.
How do they all get around if they don't' have cars to drive?
Public transportation is pretty awesome, when well-implemented. A lot of people in Europe have cars, but a lot of them don't. If trains, streetcars, buses, and such suffice to get you where you need to go, why pay for the upkeep of your own vehicle?
That's a misleading way to put it. The OS supported multitasking, but due to a conscious decision, it wasn't exposed to the apps. Meanwhile, the system was running various background executables.
That's part of the point that I was trying to make. Basically, that "just use Linux" has a ton of practical problems (whether originating from hardware or software) some users, but not others...but only commenting on a little hole in the way someone phrased something is kind of cheap, and doesn't really add much to the discussion. As I said, only an idiot would claim any solution to be truly one-size-fits-all; it's too easy to come up with a counter-example. It's more interesting to assume that the other person isn't an idiot and continue the discussion from that point, IMO.
Probably the guy you responded to should have said "anyone who values privacy [above all else]", rather than omitting the bracketed text. You can always construct a set of use-cases where Linux won't be feasible, and no one in their right mind would argue otherwise. They might use a no-true-Scotsman argument that anyone who prizes a 10" 2-in-1 form factor over privacy doesn't truly value privacy, but that's a whole different argument.
I charge my iPhone 6 once every day, about the same time that I charge my Nexus 5. They're each usually at anywhere from 5-40% battery, depending on how heavily I've used them during the day. The iPhone's cable doesn't interfere with much, but if I had a choice, it'd be sitting on a charging pad right next to the Nexus.
I'd be ALL OVER IT if Google produced a new Nexus device with a 4.5" screen, wireless charging, and a MicroSD slot. The move to non-removable media, both with phones and with laptops, makes no sense to me. Something seems wrong when the easiest way to get media onto my phone is by using scp.
I am positive that every system emulated in Javascript already has native-code emulators available on those 3 OSes and more. Plus, they'll be available offline and use a fraction of the processing time to run full speed. This is a plus if I want to run some of them on my older laptop with a 4:3 screen, or if I want to use my kinda crappy tablet with its attached keyboard; neither of those systems is necessarily fast enough to run the emulators with the extra Javascript overhead (at least, it would limit me to the older systems, probably pre-90s).
If I want to try something out as a one-time thing, want to access it from multiple computers, or can't install software locally, then sure, I might choose to run the Javascript version of the software. Both ways have their benefits, and that's pretty obvious.
I read that years ago, and it fascinated me even as a teenager. It combined elements of engineering and navigation in ways that I hadn't ever considered, and this makes me want to seek out that book again.
No one who is a serious Pi user today will bother giving this a look.
Most of the people asking about Windows 10 in the Pi group I take part in are just interested in running "Windows 10" on a cheap computer, and they generally lose interest when they learn that it doesn't even provide a GUI. Developers actually talking about writing software for it have been few and far between.
I took some programming classes in high school, at a school that didn't have a typing prerequisite for those classes. The next year, at a new school, they waived the typing requirement because I'd already taken some programming, so obviously I must be able to type, right? In reality, I ended up learning to touch-type by instant messaging with friends during my last two years of high school. Imagining being a programmer while being confined to hunt-and-peck sounds extremely limiting.
Windows releases always have internal version numbers like these. 5.1.2600 < 6.0.6000, and 4.10.1998 < 5.00.2195 < 6.1.7601 (using your example releases)
I have a Sager NP5160, which is a Clevo chassis, dual-booting Windows and Linux Mint. The machine is fairly thick and heavy, but none of the hardware is soldered in, and you have easy access to the drives, wifi, RAM, CPU, GPU, and related heat sink+fan.
The only Linux problems I've had with it have been related to the Nvidia Optimus dual-GPU handling, but that was a bigger problem toward the beginning since it was a fairly new feature in 2011, and Linux support hadn't quite caught up yet. It's less problematic now.
You'll get no argument from me on that point, since it's statistically true. FranTaylor, in a different part of this thread, said something about a Lenovo data breach being a "WHEN (not if)" situation. I'm just pointing out that they can't have it both ways. That is, Linux can't be the malware panacea at the same time that a malware data breach is a foregone conclusion.
If we're talking about a BIOS-level rootkit though, a secure OS will only be of limited help, and if it were Lenovo's goal to deploy data-gathering software into a Linux system, I don't doubt that it would happen and be just as devastating as it would on Windows.
You mean except for all that Linux-based technology to slurp your data that Lenovo installed that no one has discovered yet, right?;-) Linux is a great tool, but it's neither infallible nor impregnable. The same applies to any other OS that you could conceivably be talking about.
I don't know; what will you say WHEN the same happens to you? My employer cares about their data; it keeps them in business. If I'm working for a company that proves incapable of staying in business, I'll find a new employer. If my own information is leaked in a way likely to cause me some form of harm, I'd seek legal counsel to explore my options in that direction.
"Shit happens". If I worry about everything that every company in the world does wrong, I'll quickly find myself completely unable to function in any meaningful way in society. Sure, I can avoid Lenovo hardware on my own, request Apple hardware for my workstation, install FreeBSD or some other OS that they likely haven't tailored spyware for, etc....and then still lose my bank information to the hacked terminal at the grocery store. To cut to the chase: What is your point?
Absolutely (well, in the literal sense, my boss doesn't, but the company certainly does). The company MitMs all SSL connections (certs are installed into all browsers that mark the company's CA as trusted). They could easily grab my login info for any site I connect to using a computer connected to the company network. That's not even getting into the tax + pay information, my address, phone number, and social security that the company has access to. What's your point? The situation will be similar nearly anywhere.
Personally? No. We'll see if my employer does next time they select new hardware. On the other hand, LSE's actions are detectable, and its presence can be detected through its actions on the Windows filesystem. I'd argue that no one needs to "trust" Lenovo at all; absence of the rooted firmware should be possible to verify (for instance, by mounting the drive in another vendor's hardware and doing a Windows system file check).
That's called "marketing". It's bullshit. A publicly-owned company will say anything if it's not illegal to say and they think it will help move more product. That's all the weight that I'd put behind their statements. Even if individuals in leadership of the company make a morally-backed statement on its behalf, it'll renege on it as soon as there seems to be more profit in doing that than in aligning their behavior to the message.
I feel like I already covered the "business choice" aspect. Leaked internal data is likely to be considered a practical problem, since it's likely to eventually cost the company money, in one way or another.
Hobby Lobby's privately held, and primarily by a single family, to a degree that it's difficult to separate the stance of the company from the collective stance of the family members. It's not a good example of an amoral entity.
WHY? Is there not enough money in the sales of the hardware?
PC hardware is fairly low-margin and has been for a long time. Manufacturers look for anything they can find to bump their profits up. Often that includes a bunch of "trialware", "partner offers", and other crap preloaded on the machine. There's been a certain amount of backlash from customers about easily-visible adware like that, so it makes some sense that Lenovo would try to get the same benefits by hiding it on the computer instead.
My employers. The hardware's decent, and they reimage every machine before it's delivered to the office. It's not like one corporation's going to care what another corporation does if it doesn't cause a practical problem (read as: cost them money). An amoral entity can't take a moral stand.
As for browsers, I should be able to remove Thawte from the trusted chain
Go ahead. In Firefox, hamburger->options->advanced->certificates->view certificates. Find the two headings for Thawte and set all of their entries to "distrust". I've no idea exactly how much of the web will stop working correctly after that, but it's not hard to do.
I should be able to configure a warning if a domain has changed its certificate authority chain since the last time we saw it.
You should, and I'm sure there's some kind of add-on or setting for that, but I don't know what it would be off the top of my head.
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Well, unless you count App Ops in Android 4.3 (until it was removed) and builds of CyanogenMod starting with 10.2.
and from what I understand in one day you can drive and cross 2 or more country borders.
Yep. Imagine driving across the Eastern states. There's been more than one day in my life where I've briefly visited three countries.
How do they all get around if they don't' have cars to drive?
Public transportation is pretty awesome, when well-implemented. A lot of people in Europe have cars, but a lot of them don't. If trains, streetcars, buses, and such suffice to get you where you need to go, why pay for the upkeep of your own vehicle?
That's a misleading way to put it. The OS supported multitasking, but due to a conscious decision, it wasn't exposed to the apps. Meanwhile, the system was running various background executables.
That's part of the point that I was trying to make. Basically, that "just use Linux" has a ton of practical problems (whether originating from hardware or software) some users, but not others...but only commenting on a little hole in the way someone phrased something is kind of cheap, and doesn't really add much to the discussion. As I said, only an idiot would claim any solution to be truly one-size-fits-all; it's too easy to come up with a counter-example. It's more interesting to assume that the other person isn't an idiot and continue the discussion from that point, IMO.
Probably the guy you responded to should have said "anyone who values privacy [above all else]", rather than omitting the bracketed text. You can always construct a set of use-cases where Linux won't be feasible, and no one in their right mind would argue otherwise. They might use a no-true-Scotsman argument that anyone who prizes a 10" 2-in-1 form factor over privacy doesn't truly value privacy, but that's a whole different argument.
I charge my iPhone 6 once every day, about the same time that I charge my Nexus 5. They're each usually at anywhere from 5-40% battery, depending on how heavily I've used them during the day. The iPhone's cable doesn't interfere with much, but if I had a choice, it'd be sitting on a charging pad right next to the Nexus.
I'd be ALL OVER IT if Google produced a new Nexus device with a 4.5" screen, wireless charging, and a MicroSD slot. The move to non-removable media, both with phones and with laptops, makes no sense to me. Something seems wrong when the easiest way to get media onto my phone is by using scp.
I am positive that every system emulated in Javascript already has native-code emulators available on those 3 OSes and more. Plus, they'll be available offline and use a fraction of the processing time to run full speed. This is a plus if I want to run some of them on my older laptop with a 4:3 screen, or if I want to use my kinda crappy tablet with its attached keyboard; neither of those systems is necessarily fast enough to run the emulators with the extra Javascript overhead (at least, it would limit me to the older systems, probably pre-90s).
If I want to try something out as a one-time thing, want to access it from multiple computers, or can't install software locally, then sure, I might choose to run the Javascript version of the software. Both ways have their benefits, and that's pretty obvious.
I read that years ago, and it fascinated me even as a teenager. It combined elements of engineering and navigation in ways that I hadn't ever considered, and this makes me want to seek out that book again.
No one who is a serious Pi user today will bother giving this a look.
Most of the people asking about Windows 10 in the Pi group I take part in are just interested in running "Windows 10" on a cheap computer, and they generally lose interest when they learn that it doesn't even provide a GUI. Developers actually talking about writing software for it have been few and far between.
I took some programming classes in high school, at a school that didn't have a typing prerequisite for those classes. The next year, at a new school, they waived the typing requirement because I'd already taken some programming, so obviously I must be able to type, right? In reality, I ended up learning to touch-type by instant messaging with friends during my last two years of high school. Imagining being a programmer while being confined to hunt-and-peck sounds extremely limiting.
Windows releases always have internal version numbers like these. 5.1.2600 < 6.0.6000, and 4.10.1998 < 5.00.2195 < 6.1.7601 (using your example releases)
I have a Sager NP5160, which is a Clevo chassis, dual-booting Windows and Linux Mint. The machine is fairly thick and heavy, but none of the hardware is soldered in, and you have easy access to the drives, wifi, RAM, CPU, GPU, and related heat sink+fan.
The only Linux problems I've had with it have been related to the Nvidia Optimus dual-GPU handling, but that was a bigger problem toward the beginning since it was a fairly new feature in 2011, and Linux support hadn't quite caught up yet. It's less problematic now.
You'll get no argument from me on that point, since it's statistically true. FranTaylor, in a different part of this thread, said something about a Lenovo data breach being a "WHEN (not if)" situation. I'm just pointing out that they can't have it both ways. That is, Linux can't be the malware panacea at the same time that a malware data breach is a foregone conclusion.
If we're talking about a BIOS-level rootkit though, a secure OS will only be of limited help, and if it were Lenovo's goal to deploy data-gathering software into a Linux system, I don't doubt that it would happen and be just as devastating as it would on Windows.
You mean except for all that Linux-based technology to slurp your data that Lenovo installed that no one has discovered yet, right? ;-) Linux is a great tool, but it's neither infallible nor impregnable. The same applies to any other OS that you could conceivably be talking about.
I don't know; what will you say WHEN the same happens to you? My employer cares about their data; it keeps them in business. If I'm working for a company that proves incapable of staying in business, I'll find a new employer. If my own information is leaked in a way likely to cause me some form of harm, I'd seek legal counsel to explore my options in that direction.
"Shit happens". If I worry about everything that every company in the world does wrong, I'll quickly find myself completely unable to function in any meaningful way in society. Sure, I can avoid Lenovo hardware on my own, request Apple hardware for my workstation, install FreeBSD or some other OS that they likely haven't tailored spyware for, etc....and then still lose my bank information to the hacked terminal at the grocery store. To cut to the chase: What is your point?
Absolutely (well, in the literal sense, my boss doesn't, but the company certainly does). The company MitMs all SSL connections (certs are installed into all browsers that mark the company's CA as trusted). They could easily grab my login info for any site I connect to using a computer connected to the company network. That's not even getting into the tax + pay information, my address, phone number, and social security that the company has access to. What's your point? The situation will be similar nearly anywhere.
Personally? No. We'll see if my employer does next time they select new hardware. On the other hand, LSE's actions are detectable, and its presence can be detected through its actions on the Windows filesystem. I'd argue that no one needs to "trust" Lenovo at all; absence of the rooted firmware should be possible to verify (for instance, by mounting the drive in another vendor's hardware and doing a Windows system file check).
That's called "marketing". It's bullshit. A publicly-owned company will say anything if it's not illegal to say and they think it will help move more product. That's all the weight that I'd put behind their statements. Even if individuals in leadership of the company make a morally-backed statement on its behalf, it'll renege on it as soon as there seems to be more profit in doing that than in aligning their behavior to the message.
I feel like I already covered the "business choice" aspect. Leaked internal data is likely to be considered a practical problem, since it's likely to eventually cost the company money, in one way or another.
LSE's only present in certain models of computer. None of the models in our ordering list are in Lenovo's list.
Hobby Lobby's privately held, and primarily by a single family, to a degree that it's difficult to separate the stance of the company from the collective stance of the family members. It's not a good example of an amoral entity.
WHY? Is there not enough money in the sales of the hardware?
PC hardware is fairly low-margin and has been for a long time. Manufacturers look for anything they can find to bump their profits up. Often that includes a bunch of "trialware", "partner offers", and other crap preloaded on the machine. There's been a certain amount of backlash from customers about easily-visible adware like that, so it makes some sense that Lenovo would try to get the same benefits by hiding it on the computer instead.
My employers. The hardware's decent, and they reimage every machine before it's delivered to the office. It's not like one corporation's going to care what another corporation does if it doesn't cause a practical problem (read as: cost them money). An amoral entity can't take a moral stand.
As for browsers, I should be able to remove Thawte from the trusted chain
Go ahead. In Firefox, hamburger->options->advanced->certificates->view certificates. Find the two headings for Thawte and set all of their entries to "distrust". I've no idea exactly how much of the web will stop working correctly after that, but it's not hard to do.
I should be able to configure a warning if a domain has changed its certificate authority chain since the last time we saw it.
You should, and I'm sure there's some kind of add-on or setting for that, but I don't know what it would be off the top of my head.