Meanwhile, compare to the massive level of support out there for.NET already. And the next version of Windows is replacing Win32 with.NET, so it's only a matter of time before it's everywhere.
Nobody's imposing conventions any more than C imposes conventions or GTK imposes conventions.
I'm sorry, but.NET is taking off, and taking off a lot more successfully than Java. I've never even seen a Java application on Windows before. I run across.NET binaries all the time, and companies like Adobe are already talking to Microsoft and examining.NET solutions for their products.
The reason for making the first letter of the method names upper case is because the programmer chose to do that. If you don't want to, you don't have to.
I uppercase the first letters of my methods, lowercase the first letters of my properties, etc. Gasp--I organize my shit.
This sort of goofy knee-jerk reaction illustrates just how closed-minded and out of touch some of you guys are. When all Linux desktops are based on Mono in five years and we're trading.NET binaries back and forth between Linux and Windows, will you still be complaining about "mangled conventions?" Go ahead and stick with your C language if you want.
And you also have limited ways to really integrate with the platform's desktop.
I'm posting this in the middle of writing a custom Outlook Bar control for my application in.NET.
Seems kind of pointless, actually--isn't the point of being cross-platform to not be platform-specific? If you need to integrate into a specific desktop, you'd be writing something that's not platform-independent anyway.
And the weather shouldn't be able to dictate when or where I play golf, but it does. It's one of those forces that's beyond your control and you have to just mitigate it when you can.
Pirates aren't the weather. Pirates are people who make their choices.
Doom3 is one of the most anticipated releases in a long time.
How does that justify people pirating it?
Is it that big of a deal to have it released at the same time everywhere and maximize your sales?
The point is it doesn't matter if id does that or not. It's their product and they can do what they want, and pirates shouldn't feel justified just because they think otherwise.
That's like saying the majority of Kazaa's traffic just might be legit.
Just because some Linux distros use it doesn't mean anything. I guarantee there is a lot more illegimate traffic going on than legit Linux distro traffic. Linux distros are not THAT widespread. There are a hell of a lot more people pirating music and movies than sharing the latest Slackware. Just saying.
Pirates shouldn't be able to dictate how a company releases its product. id can do whatever the hell it wants--it made Doom 3. People will pirate it no matter when it comes out, even though they shouldn't.
You know, all you guys who constantly called Doom 3 "vaporware" for absolutely no reason. It's not like the game was delayed, it's not like there was never any progress shown at E3. Yet for some reason I never understood, it became a running joke among some people here on Slashdot that Doom 3 would never come out or that it was vaporware.
Anyway, please step forward so we can help you pull your foot out of your mouth. You were wrong.
I don't believe he uses Free Software; that means that Microsoft is not satisfying their customers, and Free Software can perform better than Microsoft even in the ease of use area!"
Huh? I'm a bit confused. How does Free Software magically have higher usability than Microsoft all of the sudden? Just because the submitter thinks he doesn't use Free Software? It's common knowledge we're all working very hard to make the Linux desktop better in usability, because we all know it...well, sucks.
As this post claims, I would have to disagree with the world's richest man and say that compact disk media is here to stay for a while because there is just no substitute for a media that cost cents.
Is the submitter serious? In 10 years, compact disk media won't be around at all. I agree with Gates on this one (nice jealous quip about the "world's richest man").
Yeah, and he also said we wouldn't need more than 640k.
No, he didn't. He never said that. He denies it to this day, and I dare anyone to actually cite where he said this. Besides, back when he was supposed to have said it, 640k was enough for anybody.
If the applications were written correctly, Windows wouldn't be a pain in the ass to run as non-admin.
It's not Microsoft's fault that, say, Maxis chose to make the Sim require admin. Not a single application installed on my laptop requires admin. Why? Because I don't install garbage software. Windows does not require that your software have admin privileges to run. It's just that dumb software developers don't code correctly.
Slashdotters tend to say things like this. "I just FEEL something changing!" Well, that's because you visit Slashdot everyday, read posts day after day criticizing Microsoft, and form your perspectives based on the headlines posted on Slashdot. Yeah, if I did that, I can imagine I'd "feel" something changing too, because human perceptions are easy to shape.
You say everywhere around you people are throwing out Windows, which is either not true or means you have very techie friends. You claim Internet Explorer is losing market share without citing a single figure or study to prove that (Google Zeitgeist shows otherwise). You vaguely claim a "general awareness of alternative platforms" that is "beginning to progress," which is silly since I doubt you've scientifically polled the general public on this and are yet again just going by what you perceive your friends doing. There has been a lot of Windows insecurity talk, but it's mostly been on tech sites like Slashdot. The general public is busy with other things. Besides, tech studies have shown that Windows is no more insecure than OS X or major Linux distributions, according to that study Slashdot itself posted.
I would not be surprised one bit if there were one billion Windows users by 2010.
Microsoft is saying they expect even more people using computers and using Windows. Yes, they currently have 96% of existing computer users, but they're just saying more people will be using computers and that they will be running Windows.
They probably didn't feel comfortable with their level of testing thus far and wanted to do more. I imagine they're jumping through hoops to support to the more popular apps. But really, software makers should just get with it. I'm not gonna run anything that won't run with SP2.
Firefox and Mozilla love to hog up my memory. Again, I have to ask, why do they re-implement all their own widgets? It's completely insane. It's just a browser.
Opera is speedy, it renders Slashdot correctly (something Mozilla and Firefox still can't do), and it doesn't suck up all my memory just because some people wanted to reinvent the wheel. And all of Opera's best featurs have been ripped off and hailed as Mozilla innovations. Tabbed browsing? Mouse gestures? Pop-up blocking? It was all Opera first.
...how will you have lots of good games without good developer technology and APIs? The grandparent post was right (even if anti-"M$" mods have knocked him down for absolutely no reason other than praising Microsoft).
Ask yourself this--what do you think someone is going to say when you tell them they have to run a Windows API simulator to run their Windows applications? They'll just ask you with a smirk, "Then why don't I just run actual Windows?"
The rest of the world doesn't share the anti-Microsoft, almost religious viewpoint that Linux is the better operating system just because it's open source and UNIX-like. They'll want actual reasons to switch. At most, they'll just use Firefox on Windows if you try to bring up IE insecurities.
How about in practice? I switched my parents to linux. They had no problems using it. And believe me, my parents are far from computer savvy (my mother couldn't figure out how to install new fonts in windows). My girlfriend was curious as to what linux was like - I gave her a knoppix CD, and she figured everything else out herself.
Have your mom go buy a new printer and scanner and try to install it. Have them try to install an application themselves.
We always hear about people who have switched their non-computer-savvy relatives to Linux, but that doesn't mean anything. It's the computer-savvy people you need to target. People who do nothing else but write e-mail, surf eBay, and keep family photos can use pretty much anything from OS X to Windows 95 to KDE. It's not saying much to brag that Linux can use a printer or surf the net. It's when people want to install a new video card, or perhaps a new DVD burner, or perhaps they want to hook up a microphone and try some recording, or maybe they want to play The Sims 2, or maybe they want to install (or better yet, uninstall) an application. Perhaps they'd like to switch from dialup to DSL.
There are a million different possibilities that go beyond someone's grandma who just uses Linux to browse MSN and check their e-mail. I mean, big deal. There's more to a desktop than that.
It's the OS all your Windows applications and games won't run on...
It's not that easy to just tell someone, "Well, IE had a security exploit so it's time to switch to Linux!" The Linux desktop has usability and infrastructure issues. I don't expect them to remain forever, but it is sure taking a long time, and by then Apple's next version of MacOS will be out along with Windows Longhorn, and it will be another decade of playing catch-up with their new technologies.
I think right now the biggest thing I see keeping away commercial developers is the lack of a single binary installation/uninstallation API integrated into the desktop environment. You just can't be sure your app will still run in 5 years. Can you still run a Red Hat RPM you got in 1997? Windows can still run apps from 1991. In addition, a unified API akin to.NET or Cocoa, instead of these 20 or so different APIs which require that I install all of them since everybody likes to code for different ones instead of coding to a standard.
I guess that's it, really--you can't expect the Linux desktop to become standard if it doesn't embrace any standards itself. Now, I know a lot of people like that facet of Linux, and that's cool. I'm just saying, don't be surprised if it never takes off in the mainstream as a result. It has a long, long way to go, most of it internal infrastructure issues (the fact we're still using X11 is embarrassing).
This trend really only came to light in the 90s, particularly the mid- to late-90s. Compression is used to squeeze all the dynamics out of the music in order to make it sound "louder" than the other songs on the radio. It's different from just loud rock instruments. This has to do with the wretched trend of signal compression.
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If you're honestly comparing .NET/C# to wxWidgets, it's clear you've never even cracked open a book or read a single webpage about .NET and the CLR.
Yeah, and Java really took off now, didn't it?
.NET already. And the next version of Windows is replacing Win32 with .NET, so it's only a matter of time before it's everywhere.
.NET is taking off, and taking off a lot more successfully than Java. I've never even seen a Java application on Windows before. I run across .NET binaries all the time, and companies like Adobe are already talking to Microsoft and examining .NET solutions for their products.
Meanwhile, compare to the massive level of support out there for
Nobody's imposing conventions any more than C imposes conventions or GTK imposes conventions.
I'm sorry, but
The reason for making the first letter of the method names upper case is because the programmer chose to do that. If you don't want to, you don't have to.
.NET binaries back and forth between Linux and Windows, will you still be complaining about "mangled conventions?" Go ahead and stick with your C language if you want.
I uppercase the first letters of my methods, lowercase the first letters of my properties, etc. Gasp--I organize my shit.
This sort of goofy knee-jerk reaction illustrates just how closed-minded and out of touch some of you guys are. When all Linux desktops are based on Mono in five years and we're trading
And you also have limited ways to really integrate with the platform's desktop.
.NET.
I'm posting this in the middle of writing a custom Outlook Bar control for my application in
Seems kind of pointless, actually--isn't the point of being cross-platform to not be platform-specific? If you need to integrate into a specific desktop, you'd be writing something that's not platform-independent anyway.
And the weather shouldn't be able to dictate when or where I play golf, but it does. It's one of those forces that's beyond your control and you have to just mitigate it when you can.
Pirates aren't the weather. Pirates are people who make their choices.
Doom3 is one of the most anticipated releases in a long time.
How does that justify people pirating it?
Is it that big of a deal to have it released at the same time everywhere and maximize your sales?
The point is it doesn't matter if id does that or not. It's their product and they can do what they want, and pirates shouldn't feel justified just because they think otherwise.
That's like saying the majority of Kazaa's traffic just might be legit.
Just because some Linux distros use it doesn't mean anything. I guarantee there is a lot more illegimate traffic going on than legit Linux distro traffic. Linux distros are not THAT widespread. There are a hell of a lot more people pirating music and movies than sharing the latest Slackware. Just saying.
Pirates shouldn't be able to dictate how a company releases its product. id can do whatever the hell it wants--it made Doom 3. People will pirate it no matter when it comes out, even though they shouldn't.
You know, all you guys who constantly called Doom 3 "vaporware" for absolutely no reason. It's not like the game was delayed, it's not like there was never any progress shown at E3. Yet for some reason I never understood, it became a running joke among some people here on Slashdot that Doom 3 would never come out or that it was vaporware.
Anyway, please step forward so we can help you pull your foot out of your mouth. You were wrong.
I don't believe he uses Free Software; that means that Microsoft is not satisfying their customers, and Free Software can perform better than Microsoft even in the ease of use area!"
Huh? I'm a bit confused. How does Free Software magically have higher usability than Microsoft all of the sudden? Just because the submitter thinks he doesn't use Free Software? It's common knowledge we're all working very hard to make the Linux desktop better in usability, because we all know it...well, sucks.
Seems like a rather silly Microsoft jab to me.
As this post claims, I would have to disagree with the world's richest man and say that compact disk media is here to stay for a while because there is just no substitute for a media that cost cents.
Is the submitter serious? In 10 years, compact disk media won't be around at all. I agree with Gates on this one (nice jealous quip about the "world's richest man").
Yeah, and he also said we wouldn't need more than 640k.
No, he didn't. He never said that. He denies it to this day, and I dare anyone to actually cite where he said this. Besides, back when he was supposed to have said it, 640k was enough for anybody.
That doesn't mean that computing has failed or anything. That just means people use computers to do what they did before, but better and faster.
Computers are just a tool for most of the population. For geeks, they could be "so much more," but that's geeks.
What about this, eh?
If the applications were written correctly, Windows wouldn't be a pain in the ass to run as non-admin.
It's not Microsoft's fault that, say, Maxis chose to make the Sim require admin. Not a single application installed on my laptop requires admin. Why? Because I don't install garbage software. Windows does not require that your software have admin privileges to run. It's just that dumb software developers don't code correctly.
You mean the flaw that only affected IE5? Sorry, I don't think that's "GAYER THAN AIDS." There have been plenty of dumb-ass OSS mistakes as well.
Let me guess. You're a college student.
Slashdotters tend to say things like this. "I just FEEL something changing!" Well, that's because you visit Slashdot everyday, read posts day after day criticizing Microsoft, and form your perspectives based on the headlines posted on Slashdot. Yeah, if I did that, I can imagine I'd "feel" something changing too, because human perceptions are easy to shape.
You say everywhere around you people are throwing out Windows, which is either not true or means you have very techie friends. You claim Internet Explorer is losing market share without citing a single figure or study to prove that (Google Zeitgeist shows otherwise). You vaguely claim a "general awareness of alternative platforms" that is "beginning to progress," which is silly since I doubt you've scientifically polled the general public on this and are yet again just going by what you perceive your friends doing. There has been a lot of Windows insecurity talk, but it's mostly been on tech sites like Slashdot. The general public is busy with other things. Besides, tech studies have shown that Windows is no more insecure than OS X or major Linux distributions, according to that study Slashdot itself posted.
I would not be surprised one bit if there were one billion Windows users by 2010.
Microsoft is saying they expect even more people using computers and using Windows. Yes, they currently have 96% of existing computer users, but they're just saying more people will be using computers and that they will be running Windows.
Autopatcher.
They probably didn't feel comfortable with their level of testing thus far and wanted to do more. I imagine they're jumping through hoops to support to the more popular apps. But really, software makers should just get with it. I'm not gonna run anything that won't run with SP2.
Firefox and Mozilla love to hog up my memory. Again, I have to ask, why do they re-implement all their own widgets? It's completely insane. It's just a browser.
Opera is speedy, it renders Slashdot correctly (something Mozilla and Firefox still can't do), and it doesn't suck up all my memory just because some people wanted to reinvent the wheel. And all of Opera's best featurs have been ripped off and hailed as Mozilla innovations. Tabbed browsing? Mouse gestures? Pop-up blocking? It was all Opera first.
...how will you have lots of good games without good developer technology and APIs? The grandparent post was right (even if anti-"M$" mods have knocked him down for absolutely no reason other than praising Microsoft).
Ask yourself this--what do you think someone is going to say when you tell them they have to run a Windows API simulator to run their Windows applications? They'll just ask you with a smirk, "Then why don't I just run actual Windows?"
The rest of the world doesn't share the anti-Microsoft, almost religious viewpoint that Linux is the better operating system just because it's open source and UNIX-like. They'll want actual reasons to switch. At most, they'll just use Firefox on Windows if you try to bring up IE insecurities.
How about in practice? I switched my parents to linux. They had no problems using it. And believe me, my parents are far from computer savvy (my mother couldn't figure out how to install new fonts in windows). My girlfriend was curious as to what linux was like - I gave her a knoppix CD, and she figured everything else out herself.
Have your mom go buy a new printer and scanner and try to install it. Have them try to install an application themselves.
We always hear about people who have switched their non-computer-savvy relatives to Linux, but that doesn't mean anything. It's the computer-savvy people you need to target. People who do nothing else but write e-mail, surf eBay, and keep family photos can use pretty much anything from OS X to Windows 95 to KDE. It's not saying much to brag that Linux can use a printer or surf the net. It's when people want to install a new video card, or perhaps a new DVD burner, or perhaps they want to hook up a microphone and try some recording, or maybe they want to play The Sims 2, or maybe they want to install (or better yet, uninstall) an application. Perhaps they'd like to switch from dialup to DSL.
There are a million different possibilities that go beyond someone's grandma who just uses Linux to browse MSN and check their e-mail. I mean, big deal. There's more to a desktop than that.
It's the OS all your Windows applications and games won't run on...
.NET or Cocoa, instead of these 20 or so different APIs which require that I install all of them since everybody likes to code for different ones instead of coding to a standard.
It's not that easy to just tell someone, "Well, IE had a security exploit so it's time to switch to Linux!" The Linux desktop has usability and infrastructure issues. I don't expect them to remain forever, but it is sure taking a long time, and by then Apple's next version of MacOS will be out along with Windows Longhorn, and it will be another decade of playing catch-up with their new technologies.
I think right now the biggest thing I see keeping away commercial developers is the lack of a single binary installation/uninstallation API integrated into the desktop environment. You just can't be sure your app will still run in 5 years. Can you still run a Red Hat RPM you got in 1997? Windows can still run apps from 1991. In addition, a unified API akin to
I guess that's it, really--you can't expect the Linux desktop to become standard if it doesn't embrace any standards itself. Now, I know a lot of people like that facet of Linux, and that's cool. I'm just saying, don't be surprised if it never takes off in the mainstream as a result. It has a long, long way to go, most of it internal infrastructure issues (the fact we're still using X11 is embarrassing).
This trend really only came to light in the 90s, particularly the mid- to late-90s. Compression is used to squeeze all the dynamics out of the music in order to make it sound "louder" than the other songs on the radio. It's different from just loud rock instruments. This has to do with the wretched trend of signal compression.