ActiveDesktop. Ads and crap floating on the desktop. *shudder* The sleazy side of the 'net always takes advantage of the new-fangled technology we think is gonna be so great and utopian.
What happened to programming everything in assembler via a command-line?
Damn all this new-fangled technological progress. Let us embrace stagnancy, because it's old, which makes it better.
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The article told me, "You're probably wondering what advantage this will give you over today's plug-ins." Then it tells me I can just drag plug-ins to run them. I don't see how this is different from just clicking a link to run an XPI. He talks about dragging them off the page so they sit in a persistent window. What's so different from just clicking a link that opens a seperate browser window itself? And with Mono/.NET, we will already have net-based applications that blur the line between desktops and browsers, but without even needing a browser to begin with.
I guess I just think it's a neat idea, but I don't see what the advantage is or why I should care considering what's already out there.
All I have to do is point out how things are now. Look at the current state of Linux on the desktop compared to OS X and Windows, also taking into account the application base for each.
Linux will never, ever gain mainstream acceptance if no companies will develop for it. Amateur volunteer developers hacking away on weekends will never achieve the level of a funded, employed business entity who has a financial reason to develop the best software out there.
I don't get the aversion to commercial software on Linux.
3) mostly failed in the box-office because Cameron had done such a good job of transforming the series into a testosterone-fest that anything less was going to be a dissapointment.
Oh, come now. That's not why Alien Resurrection failed. First off, I'd hardly call Aliens a "testosterone-fest" considering the main character is a woman. Second, Alien Resurrection was a failed premise from the start. Cloning Ripley? Give me a break. Evil scientists, yet again, studying the aliens scientifically, and of course, they break loose. And you have the ragtag "tough" group of random ship crewmates who just happen to be there in order to get lost in a massive ship made up of the same corridors over and over again when the aliens get loose. This is the best premise he could come up with? And, of course, another surprise droid! Hooray.
Originally, Ripley was supposed to get raped by an alien. Thankfully, they changed that ending, though having the queen give birth to a stupid-looking creature wasn't much better.
Alien is an almost completely perfect and gorgeous horror sci-fi film. Aliens is an almost completely perfect and gorgeous action sci-fi film. Alien Resurrection is a cash-in crapfest that should never have been kicked around to start with. At least Alien 3, as grimy as it was, didn't try to devolve into camp, and had Fischer gone into it with an actual finish script (they literally didn't have a finished script when filming started), it would have turned out much better. Alien Resurrection's entire premise is a laughable and poorly-done retread, and even Whedon's normally snappy one-liners are pure shit. "I'm the monster's mother." Ripley is turned into a big joke.
P.S. I should say, I never, ever got the appeal of the Buffy TV show either, but, hey, different strokes.
There aren't any apps for Linux that they want. Why would anything need to be "rewritten" for Longhorn? Microsoft demonstrated older apps running at the PDC, but complete with the vector-scaling. The apps didn't know any better. They even played Quake 3 while a video was running in a spinning window.
This is the same thing I've heard since 1998. "This time, people will switch!"
Explain how Apache is the most popular web server, and yet the server which gets holed by worms on a regular basis is IIS
Have any stats to back that up?
Do you remember Gnome, Gentoo, Debian, GNU, Savannah, and more all getting hacked last year? Do you remember the article Slashdot posted that showed Linux was the most breached OS on the net?
I dislike how claims are just wildly thrown around here on Slashdot as though they're magically self-evident, and nobody questions it and instead reactively mods it up. Because, after all, IIS is bad and Apache is good, right? I read it in a Slashdot comment.
According to Google Zeitgeist, other browsers aren't even making a dent and have steadily declined since 2001. You can even see a spike where IE dipped, but then people apparently switched back to it.
You can easily set up permissions so that only certain users can install programs, or only power users, and so on. Modern applications are also written so that they don't require admin privileges to be run, though you still run across the shitty app once in a while that absolutely has to run as admin. You can go to the program's properties and tell it to log you in as an admin for just that program.
It's just different strokes for different folks. You're a more knowledgable user, so naturally you're able to stave off spyware a bit better. With the ActiveX management and pop-up blocking, this should help protect a lot of the more ignorant users out there.
Around here, the prevailing attitude is that you're an idiot if you use Internet Explorer, because, you know, it's "M$" and all. But in the real world, people don't treat their operating systems and web browsers like religions and just use whatever they like best. If you like IE, keep on using it! I like Firefox and so will keep on using that. Variety is what makes the world interesting, you know...
By the way, those features, a popular staple of Mozilla, were taken from the commercial browser Opera.
Everybody "innovates" new versions of old ideas. Hell yeah, I'd love to see tabbed browser and mouse gestures. Pop-up blocking is already coming in SP2, and a download manager is in the Longhorn betas.
Nobody's holding a gun to someone's head to use IE. If they don't like IE, they can use something else. If they don't know about anything else, that's not Microsoft's fault, it means they're just not informed. Mozilla needs to advertise better. It's the Internet, for pete's sake. Get the word out.
I love when people play victim just because IE is included with Windows. That's like saying you "don't have a choice" when it comes to Konquerer, simply because it's integrated into KDE. Sorry, you can use whatever you want on both KDE and Windows, and it's not the dominant browser's fault if people don't use anything else.
I guess what I'm trying to say is whining and playing victim isn't going to get people to switch any sooner. Mozilla can be a grownup and plug its browser, as can its users. I just don't see how people not knowing about it suddenly means IE is "forced" on them. Nobody's forcing anybody. If you were forced to use IE, that would mean Windows itself was blocking other browsers from working. That's just not true. You can use whatever the hell you want.
My mom certainly has no clue that there even IS anything other than IE to use. Most of our mothers probably don't even realize that IE is not "the Internet".
That has nothing to do with Microsoft. Mozilla can freely advertise its products. Microsoft isn't going to do it for them. If your mom has never heard of Firefox, then Firefox needs to get the word out better. That doesn't mean people don't have a choice, it means they're not informed.
He's right--nobody is holding a gun to your head to use IE. For the record, my mom does use Firefox. Of her own free will.
Tell me you're kidding. Do you even read Slashdot? If you believe what the majority here says, all OSS is infallible. Hell, that whole "many eyes" factor should have come into play here and the hole should have never existed. Right?
It didn't. Slashdot misreported (surprise). All that got taken out was some arcane network features. They'll likely be added in a Windows Update pack. WinFS is in Longhorn.
There are some cool features that warrant the change to XP (i.e., System Restore), but you are right that not much is actually changed.
The big thing is going to be Longhorn--that's why it's taking so long. WinFS, Avalon, whole new interface called Aero Glass, an entire.NET-based OS that replaces Win32, and so on. You're right that Microsoft hasn't offered much in the past 4 years as far as actual change goes (I consider 2000/XP because it finally got most people off the 9x core), but Longhorn is set to fulfill that. I'm already looking forward to the new era of Windows based entirely on safe and stable.NET code.
I admit it, I'm a fan of the.NET technologies. I'm really looking forward to Mono becoming mature. If all goes well I hope it can be ported to OS X.
The Source engine is supposed to be very scalable, requiring at mininum a DirectX 7 level video card. I'm sure the Sims 2 will be in the same arena, it being EA's big seller, and they love widespread target specs. The Sims 2 isn't exactly pushing graphics technology. It's mostly great game art that makes it look good.
I think it's a cool name. The Source engine, like it's the starting point for a lot of kick-ass content.
What else is there? The Quake engine, the CryEngine, the Unreal Warfare engine. They're all pretty silly. I actually thought Source was one of the more classy names, but what do I know.
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Why is this "Insightful?" What a waste of a mod point. Why don't you use it, I don't know, to mod the grandparent down to -1? Or use it elsewhere?
"v sick" isn't insightful in the slightest. It's just pointing out the obvious over a standard troll.
ActiveDesktop. Ads and crap floating on the desktop. *shudder* The sleazy side of the 'net always takes advantage of the new-fangled technology we think is gonna be so great and utopian.
What happened to programming everything in assembler via a command-line?
Damn all this new-fangled technological progress. Let us embrace stagnancy, because it's old, which makes it better.
The article told me, "You're probably wondering what advantage this will give you over today's plug-ins." Then it tells me I can just drag plug-ins to run them. I don't see how this is different from just clicking a link to run an XPI. He talks about dragging them off the page so they sit in a persistent window. What's so different from just clicking a link that opens a seperate browser window itself? And with Mono/.NET, we will already have net-based applications that blur the line between desktops and browsers, but without even needing a browser to begin with.
I guess I just think it's a neat idea, but I don't see what the advantage is or why I should care considering what's already out there.
All I have to do is point out how things are now. Look at the current state of Linux on the desktop compared to OS X and Windows, also taking into account the application base for each.
I thought Linux was about choice?
Linux will never, ever gain mainstream acceptance if no companies will develop for it. Amateur volunteer developers hacking away on weekends will never achieve the level of a funded, employed business entity who has a financial reason to develop the best software out there.
I don't get the aversion to commercial software on Linux.
I'm a bit confused how Alien Resurrection wasn't his story considering his own words on the subject, as quoted here: http://visceralflux.net/alien/aprod.html
Seems pretty proud of his script to me. Again, I don't get the appeal of this guy. Buffy the TV show seemed way too silly and goofy for my tastes.
3) mostly failed in the box-office because Cameron had done such a good job of transforming the series into a testosterone-fest that anything less was going to be a dissapointment.
Oh, come now. That's not why Alien Resurrection failed. First off, I'd hardly call Aliens a "testosterone-fest" considering the main character is a woman. Second, Alien Resurrection was a failed premise from the start. Cloning Ripley? Give me a break. Evil scientists, yet again, studying the aliens scientifically, and of course, they break loose. And you have the ragtag "tough" group of random ship crewmates who just happen to be there in order to get lost in a massive ship made up of the same corridors over and over again when the aliens get loose. This is the best premise he could come up with? And, of course, another surprise droid! Hooray.
Originally, Ripley was supposed to get raped by an alien. Thankfully, they changed that ending, though having the queen give birth to a stupid-looking creature wasn't much better.
Alien is an almost completely perfect and gorgeous horror sci-fi film. Aliens is an almost completely perfect and gorgeous action sci-fi film. Alien Resurrection is a cash-in crapfest that should never have been kicked around to start with. At least Alien 3, as grimy as it was, didn't try to devolve into camp, and had Fischer gone into it with an actual finish script (they literally didn't have a finished script when filming started), it would have turned out much better. Alien Resurrection's entire premise is a laughable and poorly-done retread, and even Whedon's normally snappy one-liners are pure shit. "I'm the monster's mother." Ripley is turned into a big joke.
P.S. I should say, I never, ever got the appeal of the Buffy TV show either, but, hey, different strokes.
There aren't any apps for Linux that they want. Why would anything need to be "rewritten" for Longhorn? Microsoft demonstrated older apps running at the PDC, but complete with the vector-scaling. The apps didn't know any better. They even played Quake 3 while a video was running in a spinning window.
This is the same thing I've heard since 1998. "This time, people will switch!"
Explain how Apache is the most popular web server, and yet the server which gets holed by worms on a regular basis is IIS
Have any stats to back that up?
Do you remember Gnome, Gentoo, Debian, GNU, Savannah, and more all getting hacked last year? Do you remember the article Slashdot posted that showed Linux was the most breached OS on the net?
I dislike how claims are just wildly thrown around here on Slashdot as though they're magically self-evident, and nobody questions it and instead reactively mods it up. Because, after all, IIS is bad and Apache is good, right? I read it in a Slashdot comment.
According to Google Zeitgeist, other browsers aren't even making a dent and have steadily declined since 2001. You can even see a spike where IE dipped, but then people apparently switched back to it.
Can't pick and choose statistics, y'know...
You can easily set up permissions so that only certain users can install programs, or only power users, and so on. Modern applications are also written so that they don't require admin privileges to be run, though you still run across the shitty app once in a while that absolutely has to run as admin. You can go to the program's properties and tell it to log you in as an admin for just that program.
Have you seen a little movie called Alien Resurrection? Talk about killing a franchise even more than it already was dead.
It's just different strokes for different folks. You're a more knowledgable user, so naturally you're able to stave off spyware a bit better. With the ActiveX management and pop-up blocking, this should help protect a lot of the more ignorant users out there.
Around here, the prevailing attitude is that you're an idiot if you use Internet Explorer, because, you know, it's "M$" and all. But in the real world, people don't treat their operating systems and web browsers like religions and just use whatever they like best. If you like IE, keep on using it! I like Firefox and so will keep on using that. Variety is what makes the world interesting, you know...
By the way, those features, a popular staple of Mozilla, were taken from the commercial browser Opera.
Everybody "innovates" new versions of old ideas. Hell yeah, I'd love to see tabbed browser and mouse gestures. Pop-up blocking is already coming in SP2, and a download manager is in the Longhorn betas.
Nobody's holding a gun to someone's head to use IE. If they don't like IE, they can use something else. If they don't know about anything else, that's not Microsoft's fault, it means they're just not informed. Mozilla needs to advertise better. It's the Internet, for pete's sake. Get the word out.
I love when people play victim just because IE is included with Windows. That's like saying you "don't have a choice" when it comes to Konquerer, simply because it's integrated into KDE. Sorry, you can use whatever you want on both KDE and Windows, and it's not the dominant browser's fault if people don't use anything else.
I guess what I'm trying to say is whining and playing victim isn't going to get people to switch any sooner. Mozilla can be a grownup and plug its browser, as can its users. I just don't see how people not knowing about it suddenly means IE is "forced" on them. Nobody's forcing anybody. If you were forced to use IE, that would mean Windows itself was blocking other browsers from working. That's just not true. You can use whatever the hell you want.
My mom certainly has no clue that there even IS anything other than IE to use. Most of our mothers probably don't even realize that IE is not "the Internet".
That has nothing to do with Microsoft. Mozilla can freely advertise its products. Microsoft isn't going to do it for them. If your mom has never heard of Firefox, then Firefox needs to get the word out better. That doesn't mean people don't have a choice, it means they're not informed.
He's right--nobody is holding a gun to your head to use IE. For the record, my mom does use Firefox. Of her own free will.
Tell me you're kidding. Do you even read Slashdot? If you believe what the majority here says, all OSS is infallible. Hell, that whole "many eyes" factor should have come into play here and the hole should have never existed. Right?
Welcome to the world of hypocrisy.
I'm some sure yahoo will knock me down for saying this, but it had to be said.
Why is this "Overrated?"
Is it because Overrated mods don't get meta-modded? Coward.
It didn't. Slashdot misreported (surprise). All that got taken out was some arcane network features. They'll likely be added in a Windows Update pack. WinFS is in Longhorn.
There are some cool features that warrant the change to XP (i.e., System Restore), but you are right that not much is actually changed.
.NET-based OS that replaces Win32, and so on. You're right that Microsoft hasn't offered much in the past 4 years as far as actual change goes (I consider 2000/XP because it finally got most people off the 9x core), but Longhorn is set to fulfill that. I'm already looking forward to the new era of Windows based entirely on safe and stable .NET code.
.NET technologies. I'm really looking forward to Mono becoming mature. If all goes well I hope it can be ported to OS X.
The big thing is going to be Longhorn--that's why it's taking so long. WinFS, Avalon, whole new interface called Aero Glass, an entire
I admit it, I'm a fan of the
I just love the idea of this, though it doesn't seem to be updated very often.
The Source engine is supposed to be very scalable, requiring at mininum a DirectX 7 level video card. I'm sure the Sims 2 will be in the same arena, it being EA's big seller, and they love widespread target specs. The Sims 2 isn't exactly pushing graphics technology. It's mostly great game art that makes it look good.
I think it's a cool name. The Source engine, like it's the starting point for a lot of kick-ass content.
What else is there? The Quake engine, the CryEngine, the Unreal Warfare engine. They're all pretty silly. I actually thought Source was one of the more classy names, but what do I know.