please go ahead and excuse everyone of A: being google fanbois b: defending apple c: calling us shills d: detracting from the real concern here, which is the erosion of privacy.
It is for this reason I read slashdot's moderated comments, groklaw, techdirt, anandtech, fark, al jazeera etc. Need some sites that can make sense of things for me. Fortunately, there are plenty of sites with good information. Volokh might be a little bit too "Raw" for most people, however.
examples of bad filtering:
any news website that is also affiliated with a channel (including CNN) most news websites that have a convoluted registration process to be able to post - if it's more than email/username/password, it's not worth your time. all social networks most people you know
highlights of good filtering: anonymous accounts are supported information is information without a clear bias and doesn't tug emotionally.
There's your answer. The rest is for the judge to decide. If you ask me about my personal opinion, it's very damning and pretty much in line with what Honeywell is known for. However, I'm not the one making the decision here.
I think they're not talking about bittorrenting, it's more like "don't get processed information" which sums up as: don't watch news on TV, don't listen to any faux news/abc/nbc/ news site that basically has their information "processed" in the same concept as food.
Go to the sources. When a site says:
link blah blah linked from: etc etc.
Go to that source and read there instead, is what they're saying. Because the rest is interpretations which are useless.
Damage already done, and for years. Some group of kids is going to be brought up with this "Creationism is good" shit and be basically non-contributing/non-functional members of society.
Might take 4 years to overturn this and guess what? that's a quite large group of kids in Tennessee.
It seems pretty idiotic to whine about a product having gone past the release date. Even a simple view of the kickstarter page shows they're working on things. Acting like they're scamming or nonresponsive seems a bit of bullshit since they've been posting every couple weeks or so.
However, yes, it's a buy in to hope it happens - they are not shareholders and this is not stock.
acting like everyone needs a tax lawyer and accountant is skipping the fact that the people who want the software are by definition very interested and capable of doing it themselves.
Yep. this is a "purchase to shut it down.". Funny how things happened right around when they released for android (even though it's likely that this deal was in the works for months).
What CSIRO came up with was not inventive, and they sold the patent off to patent litigation firms. To act like they're innocent because they did some research is to paint a very very biased troll implying CSIRO is unique.
There are probably 125 companies around the globe that were doing what CSIRO did at the same time, it's just that they didn't patent it.
There is no reasonable royalty that exists when you are using MOSAID for patent extortion and are not suing those manufacturing the devices but the end users.
There's two phrase for it.
One is: patent shakedown the other is: patent misuse.
I fail to see substance to your claims of competitiveness. There are cheaper phones that do more than microsoft phones can. If your idea of "competitive" is a display and a wireless connection than sure, anything can be competitive. If you're talking smartphones you're full of shit.
I love how you act like it's over just because rejected a single complaint. I guess you were so quick to troll and hide information you couldn't even get your spelling right.
Look. They're late to the game, they're trying to mimic the apple hype and simultaneously deliver while not putting enough effort into making a competitive device to actually deliver. They're praying that being able to be around long enough off android revenue (before B&N/antitrust cut that to zero) will be enough for people to consider it a competitive device.
Microsoft is just following standard protocol with Nokia. What makes you think the business model has *ever* changed? Why? Well look no further than:
Embrace, Extend, Extinguish. where are we at with Nokia again? What always comes first?
Just think of what is uncovered when it shows MPAA has put data on megaupload's servers, not unlike the youtube case. I dont' even need to know specifics to guarantee this would happen because this is a commonly used service.
oh, hi anonymous "google must be evil" guy!
please go ahead and excuse everyone of A: being google fanbois
b: defending apple
c: calling us shills
d: detracting from the real concern here, which is the erosion of privacy.
but yeah, go ahead, keep it up!
isn't that another court that is very friendly to plaintiffs in patent lawsuits as well?
yep. it's amazing the US is complaining here, but then again our country is on a constant downward spiral into idiocy. can't say I'm surprised.
It is for this reason I read slashdot's moderated comments, groklaw, techdirt, anandtech, fark, al jazeera etc. Need some sites that can make sense of things for me. Fortunately, there are plenty of sites with good information. Volokh might be a little bit too "Raw" for most people, however.
examples of bad filtering:
any news website that is also affiliated with a channel (including CNN)
most news websites that have a convoluted registration process to be able to post - if it's more than email/username/password, it's not worth your time.
all social networks
most people you know
highlights of good filtering:
anonymous accounts are supported
information is information without a clear bias and doesn't tug emotionally.
There's your answer. The rest is for the judge to decide. If you ask me about my personal opinion, it's very damning and pretty much in line with what Honeywell is known for. However, I'm not the one making the decision here.
I think they're not talking about bittorrenting, it's more like "don't get processed information" which sums up as: don't watch news on TV, don't listen to any faux news/abc/nbc/ news site that basically has their information "processed" in the same concept as food.
Go to the sources. When a site says:
link blah blah
linked from: etc etc.
Go to that source and read there instead, is what they're saying. Because the rest is interpretations which are useless.
Actually, don't forget Microsoft.
Since they probably earn $10 per android headset (or was it $15), and Nokia (some amount).
Damage already done, and for years. Some group of kids is going to be brought up with this "Creationism is good" shit and be basically non-contributing/non-functional members of society.
Might take 4 years to overturn this and guess what? that's a quite large group of kids in Tennessee.
It seems pretty idiotic to whine about a product having gone past the release date. Even a simple view of the kickstarter page shows they're working on things. Acting like they're scamming or nonresponsive seems a bit of bullshit since they've been posting every couple weeks or so.
However, yes, it's a buy in to hope it happens - they are not shareholders and this is not stock.
Don't forget that the filing is free but there may still be a fee from H&R block to get a deposit.
So they're charging money for a free service. Love it, huh.
That's not even a question. Nobody said the lawyers shouldn't get paid. It's the plaintiffs who deserve more than a nearly nonexistent payout.
bravo, good sir. a nod to the pun in a different way but bravo :)
acting like everyone needs a tax lawyer and accountant is skipping the fact that the people who want the software are by definition very interested and capable of doing it themselves.
way to distract with a strawman, though.
$2k total out of almost $4m on the case is *justice* when being sued for a credit card breach?
Yep. this is a "purchase to shut it down.". Funny how things happened right around when they released for android (even though it's likely that this deal was in the works for months).
Most notably android doesn't include what anyone else makes off the phones.
Android: "$2".
developers: $50
manufacturers: some amount.
Since apple is involved with all of the above, they're naturally including all of that. Which is not exactly an apples to apples comparison.
yep. the people who attacked manning were whom exactly? the folks who generate the propaganda.
Of course they are and were pissed, not for a good reason though.
They are a patent troll. Ever read this article? One of hundreds.
http://www.rethink-wireless.com/2011/03/18/mosaid-sues-16-vendors-wi-fi-patents.htm
who do you suppose gave mosaid (known patent troll) the patents?
What CSIRO came up with was not inventive, and they sold the patent off to patent litigation firms. To act like they're innocent because they did some research is to paint a very very biased troll implying CSIRO is unique.
There are probably 125 companies around the globe that were doing what CSIRO did at the same time, it's just that they didn't patent it.
Bullshit.
There is no reasonable royalty that exists when you are using MOSAID for patent extortion and are not suing those manufacturing the devices but the end users.
There's two phrase for it.
One is: patent shakedown
the other is: patent misuse.
and the conversation stops.
I love it.
Hi Larry Bagina!
I fail to see substance to your claims of competitiveness. There are cheaper phones that do more than microsoft phones can. If your idea of "competitive" is a display and a wireless connection than sure, anything can be competitive. If you're talking smartphones you're full of shit.
You don't have to post the same thing twice.
http://www.groklaw.net/articlebasic.php?story=20120209222500188 is a nice and succinct answer to why the B&N vs MS case is only beginning. To act like its' over is FUD.
Oh really now? Hi microsoft shill, let's call you on your lies.
http://www.groklaw.net/articlebasic.php?story=20120209222500188
Also new evidence to substantiate B&N's claims seem to be showing up every day:
http://www.computerworld.com/s/article/9225831/Why_tech_vendors_fund_patent_trolls_?taxonomyId=214 being *EXACTLY* what B&N have claimed.
I love how you act like it's over just because rejected a single complaint. I guess you were so quick to troll and hide information you couldn't even get your spelling right.
Umm, what lucky referenced is *exactly* what they have done numerous times.
meet with a company, learn their stuff, either copy it and sell it as your own or bring down the company to acquire it for pennies. sound familiar?
Look. They're late to the game, they're trying to mimic the apple hype and simultaneously deliver while not putting enough effort into making a competitive device to actually deliver. They're praying that being able to be around long enough off android revenue (before B&N/antitrust cut that to zero) will be enough for people to consider it a competitive device.
Microsoft is just following standard protocol with Nokia. What makes you think the business model has *ever* changed? Why? Well look no further than:
Embrace, Extend, Extinguish. where are we at with Nokia again? What always comes first?
Won't someone think of the planted evidence?!
Just think of what is uncovered when it shows MPAA has put data on megaupload's servers, not unlike the youtube case. I dont' even need to know specifics to guarantee this would happen because this is a commonly used service.