What would you sue a Free Software author for? For YOU using THEIR work? You see, unless they sell it to you, you have no business relationship with them.
OTOH, of course you could go and sue a vendor, such as RedHat.
Hahahahaha, I can't believe anyone was stupid enough to mod this up (neglecting to consider any astro-turfing conspiracy theories at the moment...)!
Hahahah!
Ok... So a lawyer with a medium-sized corporation, and obviously isn't up on technology considering this priceless line, "it is simply unreasonable to assume that SCO's case is completely baseless. These are intelligent, wealthy people, and they did not get that way by filing groundless lawsuits."
So a lawyer who's not up on technology, gives a flying fuck enough to come to slashdot and post this, and takes a shot at groklaw while doing so...?
Maybe it's high-time to completely ditch anonymous postings, or maybe mod points just shouldn't be given out so easily.
Folks, unless they include something to give themselves some credibility, DON'T TAKE ANONYMOUSLY POSTINGS SERIOUSLY!!!
I know you were joking, and it was funny to:), but my serious answer to your joke of a question is, "God NO!"
Once SCO is fucking dead, we can get back to coding and building fun toys, and maybe some useful things too, with the Linux kernel, without this damn fiaSCO hanging over our heads. It would also be nice to see someone persue some sort of criminal investigation against the SCO execs, but I'm not holding my breath.
And even better would be Darl's head on a pike, but I don't think we do that sort of thing anymore, right?:)
disclaimer: no, I don't *really* want to see Mr. McBride dead, call off your snipers you crazy SOBs.
Does anyone else find it funny that Yahoo is so cluttered and confusing (well, IMHO anyway) that it should really have a search engine just for itself?
Heh, nothing worse than trying to get stuff done and having to use a site that's just got too damn much on it.
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As much as I enjoyed the ugly hack known as GNOME 1.x, personally, I like to be able to READ the text on my screen!
From my own experience, GNOME 2.x needs about 128MB of memory(256 if you want to run OOo too), and a 233mhz PII processor. That's hardly demanding these days, even in poorer countries. Those are the scraps we're throwing away here in the U.S. and elsewhere, afterall.
But that's not even considering that you can still use non-AA fonts with GTK2. Use the fonts that come with X, and don't set GDK_USE_XFT. Enjoy some nice jaggy fonts:)
I REALLY wish people would stop overstating the hardware requirements for GNOME 2, as they've done a hell of a lot of work to keep them sane.
Hmmm... From the browser stats at my place of business, IE has fallen below 90% of the browser market, and our users are generally not very technically adept.
In what other business is cutting off 10% of potential customers, without it being an absolute necessity of course(eg., alcohol/tobacco companies not selling to minors - bad example maybe, as they often try, heh), considered a good business decision, or even sane?
Where have you been? They already tried that. Microsoft offered them several billion dollars. Google told them to piss off.
MS tries to play that down, now, as if they weren't serious or something..., but I have friends who work at google who had some pretty funny things to say about the whole thing.
I agree with you nearly 100%, except one minor point. I don't know a single person not saavy enough to run Linux, who is capable of successfully installing Windows.
Heh, I didn't go as far as saying that Slashdot now has a pro-MS bias, I was just pointing out that there are quite a number of MS "fanboys" here these days, and it really shows in the moderation.
Also, I've noticed large numbers of pro-MS posts getting modded up and pro-*nix posts getting modded negatively, several days after stories leave the main page.
But let's be real, here. Last year in the span of six months, Debian, Gentoo, and GNU (twice!) were compromised. Now GNOME.
I take your point, however... Wasn't at least one of those not a software exploit, ie. someone "inside" messed up and a password got into the wrong hands? And wasn't the Gentoo exploit just one of the mirrors, said mirror not even running Gentoo?
Can you honestly rail on Microsoft?
Sure! Their business practices are detestable, their software is geared towards vendor lock-in instead of providing customers with what they need, and thier complicity in the SCO fiasco is deplorable and deserving of harsh punishment, possibly jail time. They have engaged in fraud, conspiracy, perjury, and corruption, if not more. Not to mention being a convicted predatory monopoly, and now they are a predatory monopoly that uses political influence to gain near impunity.
When was the last time their servers were compromised?
Really, how the fuck is anyone supposed to know that?
Hotmail just had a huge downtime, we don't know why it was taken offline. Perhaps it got "hacked." There's no reason to take anything they say at face value, they are known liars.
Just funny how things are viewed around here, with a certain bias some people don't even realize they have.
It seems to run both ways these days. Any pro-MS response seems to get modded up without consideration of merit - personally, I think it may be because a lot of the newcomers here are intimidated by the prospect of something different than what they're used to, ie. MS, Windows, Apple, proprietary development, etc.
I understand what you're saying, but I feel that you're wrong. Case in point, I am certainly not a hard-core perl programmer. I've been using perl for about 7 years, so I know the language well, but I haven't had difficulty maintaining other peoples' code for a long time. I have more trouble with say, C or C++. Sure, you can write some ugly one-liners in Perl, but I rarely see production code that is too difficult to figure out.
It's all about good coding practice. You can even write maintainable code in that nasty language people call PHP:)
Like I said though, to each his own. Some people worry that PHP is "killing" Perl, and other ridiculous nonsense... Frankly, there's more than enough room for both, and plenty more too.
I'm not religious though; if someone paid me to write PHP, I'd write PHP. But I won't touch VB though, that's the devil.
Heh, if you want to feel better about the language you have to use, just compare it to VB; "Well, at least I'm not writing this in VB..."
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Oh please... Perl's syntactical footprint isn't nearly that bad. Surely any competent programmer woudn't have a difficult time. Christ, perldoc comes with perl and is arguably the most useful language documentation that exists. Don't understand a bit of syntax, if you're using perl, you've got a huge reference right there.
As for PHP, it's an awful language. There are entirely too many core functions that all do way too similar things. How many regular expression functions are there, and separate functions for case (in)sensitivity? What the fuck were they thinking? Worse yet, they don't seem to follow any naming conventions for their functions. Sometimes words are separated by underscore, sometimes not. Some functions use a similar naming convention for case sensitivity, sometimes not.
PHP looks as if it was designed by beginning Perl programmers who hadn't even finished reading Learning Perl... You know the kind; they use all global variables, create libraries that pollute your namespace, mix logic and presentation, etc.
it's the ripping off of iTunes look/feel. Apple doesn't take to that well at all.
So what? There's not a goddam thing they can do about it. It's not copyright infringement, it's not trademark infringement, it's not even close to being identical.
Fuckin' Christ, Apple "rips off" nice user-interface designs these days themselves, from Mozilla, Microsoft, GNOME/KDE.
Have you tried the latest versions!? It used to do that in it's very early stages, but since the release that was dubbed "The Universe is Finite", it has been much more stable and can handle fairly large libraries.
I have a library of several thousand songs(MP3 and OGG), and it handles it just fine, over a 100Mb network.
What the fuck are you talking about? What could Apple possibly use to "smack this project down?"
They haven't used any Apple code, they aren't infringing any patents(far as I know), and they aren't breaking the DMCA with any DRM circumvention or anything of the sort.
So I ask you again, what the fuck are you talking about?
Even if it falls apart the first time you wash it?
Of course not. They should have a domestic policy similar to the mentioned non-domestic policy. It's simply ludicrous at this point to restrict domestic merchandise completely, especially considering that there's very little official domestic merchandise available.
Take a cut, that's only fair, and the foundation needs money to function. Require the merchandise to be of good quality, and require people to ask, or at least let the foundation know before selling merchandise.
It's not brain surgery, being friendly and maintaining control of a trademark and brand at the same time.
Allowing non-official domestic merchandise, as long as it's of decent quality, will only increase mozilla brand awareness, and will keep supporters happy and energized.
How about source distributions? For example, can Gentoo include firefox, using the name firefox, and include the firefox artwork? What if they include a couple minor bugfix patches?
It seems to me that Free Software shouldn't be encumbered by trademark issues any more than is required by current trademark law.
I sure hope the foundation doesn't become _overly_ concerned with legal matters; that is the path to boorishness.
I have donated money and time to the foundation, and if I find the foundation to be too strict regarding their trademarks(ie. more than required by trademark law), I will cease my support.
The only opinion I'll put forward regarding the current trademark policy, is that I think that the foundation shouldn't restrict domestic, unofficial merchandise. Taking a cut makes sense and is only fair, but an outright ban is ridiculous, unfriendly, and flies in the face of the ideals of a lot of people who have put time, money, and code into the foundation's projects.
disclaimer: I don't sell unofficial merchandise, nor have I ever purchased any. I was considering purchasing some official merchandise, but I'll have to rethink that.
Why oh why do you continue to troll all the Linux stories to this day?
Linux has adequate video and sound driver support. Not great, but adequate. You'd know that if you actually had a fucking clue about anything related to Linux, but you don't, not being a Linux user and all that.
Folks, stop modding this guy up. He does zero research about these topics, he's a known troll, and he's an inflamatory asshat. He used to troll all the SCO stores claiming to have insider information and such bullshit.
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OTOH, of course you could go and sue a vendor, such as RedHat.
Hahahah!
Ok... So a lawyer with a medium-sized corporation, and obviously isn't up on technology considering this priceless line, "it is simply unreasonable to assume that SCO's case is completely baseless. These are intelligent, wealthy people, and they did not get that way by filing groundless lawsuits."
So a lawyer who's not up on technology, gives a flying fuck enough to come to slashdot and post this, and takes a shot at groklaw while doing so...?
Maybe it's high-time to completely ditch anonymous postings, or maybe mod points just shouldn't be given out so easily.
Folks, unless they include something to give themselves some credibility, DON'T TAKE ANONYMOUSLY POSTINGS SERIOUSLY!!!
Once SCO is fucking dead, we can get back to coding and building fun toys, and maybe some useful things too, with the Linux kernel, without this damn fiaSCO hanging over our heads. It would also be nice to see someone persue some sort of criminal investigation against the SCO execs, but I'm not holding my breath.
And even better would be Darl's head on a pike, but I don't think we do that sort of thing anymore, right? :)
disclaimer: no, I don't *really* want to see Mr. McBride dead, call off your snipers you crazy SOBs.
Heh, nothing worse than trying to get stuff done and having to use a site that's just got too damn much on it.
From my own experience, GNOME 2.x needs about 128MB of memory(256 if you want to run OOo too), and a 233mhz PII processor. That's hardly demanding these days, even in poorer countries. Those are the scraps we're throwing away here in the U.S. and elsewhere, afterall.
But that's not even considering that you can still use non-AA fonts with GTK2. Use the fonts that come with X, and don't set GDK_USE_XFT. Enjoy some nice jaggy fonts :)
I REALLY wish people would stop overstating the hardware requirements for GNOME 2, as they've done a hell of a lot of work to keep them sane.
In what other business is cutting off 10% of potential customers, without it being an absolute necessity of course(eg., alcohol/tobacco companies not selling to minors - bad example maybe, as they often try, heh), considered a good business decision, or even sane?
Meh, whatever.
Huh? Well, perhaps fraud, for starters.
<ducks>
MS tries to play that down, now, as if they weren't serious or something..., but I have friends who work at google who had some pretty funny things to say about the whole thing.
Maybe in the circles he runs in, that is tactful :)
That's been my experience, anyway.
Cheers
Also, I've noticed large numbers of pro-MS posts getting modded up and pro-*nix posts getting modded negatively, several days after stories leave the main page.
I take your point, however... Wasn't at least one of those not a software exploit, ie. someone "inside" messed up and a password got into the wrong hands? And wasn't the Gentoo exploit just one of the mirrors, said mirror not even running Gentoo?
Can you honestly rail on Microsoft?
Sure! Their business practices are detestable, their software is geared towards vendor lock-in instead of providing customers with what they need, and thier complicity in the SCO fiasco is deplorable and deserving of harsh punishment, possibly jail time. They have engaged in fraud, conspiracy, perjury, and corruption, if not more. Not to mention being a convicted predatory monopoly, and now they are a predatory monopoly that uses political influence to gain near impunity.
When was the last time their servers were compromised?
Really, how the fuck is anyone supposed to know that?
Hotmail just had a huge downtime, we don't know why it was taken offline. Perhaps it got "hacked." There's no reason to take anything they say at face value, they are known liars.
Just funny how things are viewed around here, with a certain bias some people don't even realize they have.
It seems to run both ways these days. Any pro-MS response seems to get modded up without consideration of merit - personally, I think it may be because a lot of the newcomers here are intimidated by the prospect of something different than what they're used to, ie. MS, Windows, Apple, proprietary development, etc.
Your buildings fall down a lot, don't they?
It's all about good coding practice. You can even write maintainable code in that nasty language people call PHP :)
Like I said though, to each his own. Some people worry that PHP is "killing" Perl, and other ridiculous nonsense... Frankly, there's more than enough room for both, and plenty more too.
I'm not religious though; if someone paid me to write PHP, I'd write PHP. But I won't touch VB though, that's the devil.
Heh, if you want to feel better about the language you have to use, just compare it to VB; "Well, at least I'm not writing this in VB..."
As for PHP, it's an awful language. There are entirely too many core functions that all do way too similar things. How many regular expression functions are there, and separate functions for case (in)sensitivity? What the fuck were they thinking? Worse yet, they don't seem to follow any naming conventions for their functions. Sometimes words are separated by underscore, sometimes not. Some functions use a similar naming convention for case sensitivity, sometimes not.
PHP looks as if it was designed by beginning Perl programmers who hadn't even finished reading Learning Perl... You know the kind; they use all global variables, create libraries that pollute your namespace, mix logic and presentation, etc.
Meh, to each his own I guess.
So what? There's not a goddam thing they can do about it. It's not copyright infringement, it's not trademark infringement, it's not even close to being identical.
Fuckin' Christ, Apple "rips off" nice user-interface designs these days themselves, from Mozilla, Microsoft, GNOME/KDE.
Get a fucking clue.
I have a library of several thousand songs(MP3 and OGG), and it handles it just fine, over a 100Mb network.
They haven't used any Apple code, they aren't infringing any patents(far as I know), and they aren't breaking the DMCA with any DRM circumvention or anything of the sort.
So I ask you again, what the fuck are you talking about?
Of course not. They should have a domestic policy similar to the mentioned non-domestic policy. It's simply ludicrous at this point to restrict domestic merchandise completely, especially considering that there's very little official domestic merchandise available.
Take a cut, that's only fair, and the foundation needs money to function. Require the merchandise to be of good quality, and require people to ask, or at least let the foundation know before selling merchandise.
It's not brain surgery, being friendly and maintaining control of a trademark and brand at the same time.
Allowing non-official domestic merchandise, as long as it's of decent quality, will only increase mozilla brand awareness, and will keep supporters happy and energized.
How about source distributions? For example, can Gentoo include firefox, using the name firefox, and include the firefox artwork? What if they include a couple minor bugfix patches?
It seems to me that Free Software shouldn't be encumbered by trademark issues any more than is required by current trademark law.
I sure hope the foundation doesn't become _overly_ concerned with legal matters; that is the path to boorishness.
I have donated money and time to the foundation, and if I find the foundation to be too strict regarding their trademarks(ie. more than required by trademark law), I will cease my support.
The only opinion I'll put forward regarding the current trademark policy, is that I think that the foundation shouldn't restrict domestic, unofficial merchandise. Taking a cut makes sense and is only fair, but an outright ban is ridiculous, unfriendly, and flies in the face of the ideals of a lot of people who have put time, money, and code into the foundation's projects.
disclaimer: I don't sell unofficial merchandise, nor have I ever purchased any. I was considering purchasing some official merchandise, but I'll have to rethink that.
That could be fantastic for your average Joe, with much faster bootup and all.
Linux has adequate video and sound driver support. Not great, but adequate. You'd know that if you actually had a fucking clue about anything related to Linux, but you don't, not being a Linux user and all that.
Folks, stop modding this guy up. He does zero research about these topics, he's a known troll, and he's an inflamatory asshat. He used to troll all the SCO stores claiming to have insider information and such bullshit.
Now piss off, you insufferable moron.