My experience so far has been a mixed bag. I like some of the simplification, they've tried (with only some success) to use saner defaults and make everything easier to configure and use.
The panels work ok, but there are some serious quirks. If you make a panel with no menu, and you remove the hide buttons... you can no longer configure that panel. Only way I found to fix it is to add a menu to another panel, drag it to the menuless panel, then you can use the menu for configuring the panel. A pretty large oversight if you ask me.
The other extremely annoying panel problem is... on logout/login, the panel completely forgets the order of the launchers on it! If that's not a huge oversight, I don't know what is.
Now for my biggest gripe. Sawfish 2.0. Someone was smoking some serious crack. I don't mean to be mean, but it has absolutely been destroyed. It is completely useless. It plain sucks, terribly. First of all, it's crashy, very crashy. See the bugzilla database on gnome.org, serious crash bugs in sawfish 2.0, definately NOT release material. Second, sawfish was designed with extreme configurability in mind, every aspect of sawfish is meant to be configurable, but now they have completely removed 90% of the configuration options. They supposedly tried to choose sane defaults, but with something as configurable as sawfish, that's simply not going to happen. There are some serious problems with the default settings. The new sawfish control panel... what can I say, it plain sucks. The tabs are across the top now, and you have to use the dumb little arrow buttons to scroll across the stupid things. This makes it an extreme pain to search for settings.
No favorites menu. I always found this very useful, I always put all the little utilities I often use in there. It's gone, and there is no equivalent replacement. Now your stuck browsing through the damn apps menu. A very poor decision in my opinion.
Now those problems are all extremely annoying, time draining, and basically make gnome 2.0, simply put, not ready for prime time. It's simply not release quality at this point, not even close.
There are some positive aspects though, quite positive actually. Fonts, gnome2.0's font rendering is really, really great. Fonts are rendered very cleanly, not blurry looking, and not jaggy, they look very good. Speed, despite what the reviewer was saying, gnome 2.0 is pretty speedy, speedier than 1.4. It loads up really quick, probably 4 or 5 seconds on a reasonably fast machine. The menus are much less cluttered by default, a plus in my book, they were simply full of junk before. GTK+ 2.x is much better. The default theme actually looks pretty good, file selectors work better, save dialogs don't wack the filename when you change directories(!).
All in all, I have to say that I'm pretty disapointed. It's not a lost cause, but it seems to me that gnome may be heading in the wrong direction.
There was a funny scoping problem in Perl, where in some cases $_ would sometimes get wacked after calling a function that used it's own $_.
Took me forever to figure it out, becaue $_ wouldn't be left with something the function set it to, it would be... blah, forget, nonsensical. To get around it I had to use a temporary variable and set $_ to it's old value after calling the function.
There were 3 cases where I saw this bug, I haven't noticed it in any recent versino of Perl.
I see a lot of people posting sites where you can buy parts online, but no one has mentioned www.bunta.com. They have really great prices, and they've got everything you'll need.
They're a pretty good shop, never had a problem returning anything. Everything is always well packaged and usually arrives undamaged by the package destroyers(UPS).
Shop around of course, just wanted to point out bunta since no one else has yet.
In theory, in your head at least, you are correct. However, in practice, the windows registry gets fucked up enough to render a system unbootable far more easily than/etc.
The problem with the registry is that it is a single point of failure that is also prone to failure./etc is not prone to failure at all. Making trivial system changes, non-trivial meaning altering something not part of the boot sequence, can't fuck up your system that badly. With the registry, a simple crash or power failure can toast your system.
Further, your "multiple points of failure" line is complete bullshit. The files in/etc, being multiple files, isn't in any way meaningful at all, except modifying one can't corrupt another, so you're actually completely backasswards in your logic.
You are confused, the registry can easily become corrupted causing the system to be unbootable, that's one terrible single point of failure.
/etc is composed of many different files, the ones essential for bootup rarely, if ever, need to be modified, so it's extremely difficult for any type of crash to cause the system to be unbootable.
Registry-like configuration is simply a very bad idea.
How bout a gconf-ish tool, that doesn't use a stupid daemon that can break, keeps all files in xml or similar in ~/etc, or ~/gnome or ~/kde.
I've had single crashes toast windows registries(not on MY machine, windows doesn't touch this thing), and a single crash(with a network home dir though, not *quite* as bad as windows) can break gconf.
When will people fucking wake up and stop trying to copy MS, but do it right. Many MS ideas are simply Very Bad ideas in the first place and there is simply no "doing it right".
Oh yeah, the registry is great! I can edit my registry with notepad remotel.... fuck!
Oh yeah, the registry is great, I can edit it with regedit remot... I can edit it with regedit!
What was that registry key called? Damn, can't remember... Ok, I'll find it. How many keys are there anyway? 1,000,000!?! Holy fucking shit man! It's a good thing that'll be easier to find than a file in/etc on Linux... Fuck! That's not true!
Plain and simple, the registy = single point of failure, and is not meant to be a feature for the user.
While I am a bit miffed at gnome and kde for copying the registry idea(so friggin stupid.... imo), at least with gnome(not sure about kde, probably true there too) the "registry" is not one single massive database, it's composed of different hand editable text files, xml if I remember correctly.
I am curious, what does PHP offer that Perl does not? I'm not trying to troll, or start a flame war, I just honestly don't see what PHP gives me.
One thing I see people say is that it can be imbedded into your html, but you can do that with Apache::ASP, and a bunch of others, I wrote one myself for my current job.
Plus, with mod_perl, you can write your own handlers in Perl, which is really great, not sure if you can do that with PHP...
But the number one advantage with Perl, IMHO, is the CPAN.
I just don't see what PHP offers that Perl doesn't already do better.
Now, please folks, I'm interested in hearing what PHP actually offers, I'm not looking for "Perl looks like line noise" or "PHP is Perl for girlies" type comments.
So why don't you stop whining and buy a 3d video card from a vendor that currently supports linux.
I just got a GF4, and let me tell you it absolutely smokes in Linux. It actually performs slightly better in Linux than windows, only too bad that there are few native Linux games. I run a couple games in winex too, but you lose some performance doing that, but the GF4 really helps, now I can run JK2 in 1024 with all details turned on and it runs great.
FWIW, games that run well in winex, usually run more stable than they do in windows, even win2k, but admittedly win2k is plenty stable enough for gaming.
I really hope OpenGL 2 will attract developers away from D3D, that sure would be good for Linux in the future.
Not to be an asshole, but you're a moron. Mozilla is completely themeable, there is even a theme which makes it look almost exactly like IE. There is also the Modern theme which is very nice.
Seriously, a monoculture system is MUCH more likely to have serious security problems. By serious, I mean totally disasterous.
For example, simply look at the nature of all life. There are many different types of life, even among the same species there are variations. Within a single species, there is usually enough variation that if a nasty disease spreads throught that species, there are likely to be many (of the same species) that are varied enough that they will not be destroyed by that disease.
Another example, MS Outlook. While it's arguable whether or not MS Outlook is responsible for the security breaches related to it, you simply cannot argue that these problems would have been less disasterous had organizations not used one single email program.
While a monoculture isn't necessarily more prone to have security breaches, they are definately more prone to disaster.
Where the hell do you see a damn thing about a single Right Way, in mine or the parent post?
And FWIW, IMHO, web standards SHOULD be taken seriously, as having MS entirely control how people access the web just solidifies their monopoly in a whole new area, which is dangerous to the entire computing industry. Enough damage and stagnation in this industry has been done already.
20 Months subscription? $100? You don't need a 20 month subscription, you can subscribe whenever you want to upgrade. winex isn't going to stop working if you stop subscribing. And you can still use the CVS version if your a wanker who refuses to pay for anything, but you'll have to find nocd cracks for your games.
Note to fucktards, D3D *IS* SUPPORTED IN THE CVS VERSION, just not safedisk.
And why would you have to throw your Radeon away, it's got Linux support and from what I hear it works pretty well, and trangaming has been working on improving support for DRI drivers. Still, your better off with a Geforce anyway(in linux or windows) because the drivers are MUCH better.
And for some people, rebooting to windows to play a game for a few minutes just isn't an option. I often play games as I'm taking a break from working on something, and I'm not about to close all my work to reboot to windows, and what if I'm downloading something? Personally, I find it much less painful to use winex than to reboot to windows.
Transgaming has been working recently on getting winex working better with DRI based drivers, such as the Radeon.
Why not upgrade your TNT2 to a GF3 or 4? They're the best video cards around right now, and they will be until other card vendors start using a better driver architecture(like NVIDIA's "unified driver architecture") and stop having to write an entirely new driver for ever new card they develop. That would also make it much more reasonable for other vendors to support Linux, as it would take much less resources to do so.
I agree with you about Linux being a powerful gaming platform. It is way the hell better than windows. All Linux needs is more commercial support, and easier driver setup tools.
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The panels work ok, but there are some serious quirks. If you make a panel with no menu, and you remove the hide buttons... you can no longer configure that panel. Only way I found to fix it is to add a menu to another panel, drag it to the menuless panel, then you can use the menu for configuring the panel. A pretty large oversight if you ask me.
The other extremely annoying panel problem is... on logout/login, the panel completely forgets the order of the launchers on it! If that's not a huge oversight, I don't know what is.
Now for my biggest gripe. Sawfish 2.0. Someone was smoking some serious crack. I don't mean to be mean, but it has absolutely been destroyed. It is completely useless. It plain sucks, terribly. First of all, it's crashy, very crashy. See the bugzilla database on gnome.org, serious crash bugs in sawfish 2.0, definately NOT release material. Second, sawfish was designed with extreme configurability in mind, every aspect of sawfish is meant to be configurable, but now they have completely removed 90% of the configuration options. They supposedly tried to choose sane defaults, but with something as configurable as sawfish, that's simply not going to happen. There are some serious problems with the default settings. The new sawfish control panel... what can I say, it plain sucks. The tabs are across the top now, and you have to use the dumb little arrow buttons to scroll across the stupid things. This makes it an extreme pain to search for settings.
No favorites menu. I always found this very useful, I always put all the little utilities I often use in there. It's gone, and there is no equivalent replacement. Now your stuck browsing through the damn apps menu. A very poor decision in my opinion.
Now those problems are all extremely annoying, time draining, and basically make gnome 2.0, simply put, not ready for prime time. It's simply not release quality at this point, not even close.
There are some positive aspects though, quite positive actually. Fonts, gnome2.0's font rendering is really, really great. Fonts are rendered very cleanly, not blurry looking, and not jaggy, they look very good. Speed, despite what the reviewer was saying, gnome 2.0 is pretty speedy, speedier than 1.4. It loads up really quick, probably 4 or 5 seconds on a reasonably fast machine. The menus are much less cluttered by default, a plus in my book, they were simply full of junk before. GTK+ 2.x is much better. The default theme actually looks pretty good, file selectors work better, save dialogs don't wack the filename when you change directories(!).
All in all, I have to say that I'm pretty disapointed. It's not a lost cause, but it seems to me that gnome may be heading in the wrong direction.
And that's all I have to say about that.
Took me forever to figure it out, becaue $_ wouldn't be left with something the function set it to, it would be... blah, forget, nonsensical. To get around it I had to use a temporary variable and set $_ to it's old value after calling the function.
There were 3 cases where I saw this bug, I haven't noticed it in any recent versino of Perl.
Anyone else ever see this bug?
They're a pretty good shop, never had a problem returning anything. Everything is always well packaged and usually arrives undamaged by the package destroyers(UPS).
Shop around of course, just wanted to point out bunta since no one else has yet.
Good luck
The problem with the registry is that it is a single point of failure that is also prone to failure. /etc is not prone to failure at all. Making trivial system changes, non-trivial meaning altering something not part of the boot sequence, can't fuck up your system that badly. With the registry, a simple crash or power failure can toast your system.
Further, your "multiple points of failure" line is complete bullshit. The files in /etc, being multiple files, isn't in any way meaningful at all, except modifying one can't corrupt another, so you're actually completely backasswards in your logic.
How bout a gconf-ish tool, that doesn't use a stupid daemon that can break, keeps all files in xml or similar in ~/etc, or ~/gnome or ~/kde.
I've had single crashes toast windows registries(not on MY machine, windows doesn't touch this thing), and a single crash(with a network home dir though, not *quite* as bad as windows) can break gconf.
When will people fucking wake up and stop trying to copy MS, but do it right. Many MS ideas are simply Very Bad ideas in the first place and there is simply no "doing it right".
The registry is the perfect example of this.
Oh yeah, the registry is great, I can edit it with regedit remot... I can edit it with regedit!
What was that registry key called? Damn, can't remember... Ok, I'll find it. How many keys are there anyway? 1,000,000!?! Holy fucking shit man! It's a good thing that'll be easier to find than a file in /etc on Linux... Fuck! That's not true!
Plain and simple, the registy = single point of failure, and is not meant to be a feature for the user.
One thing I see people say is that it can be imbedded into your html, but you can do that with Apache::ASP, and a bunch of others, I wrote one myself for my current job.
Plus, with mod_perl, you can write your own handlers in Perl, which is really great, not sure if you can do that with PHP...
But the number one advantage with Perl, IMHO, is the CPAN.
I just don't see what PHP offers that Perl doesn't already do better.
Now, please folks, I'm interested in hearing what PHP actually offers, I'm not looking for "Perl looks like line noise" or "PHP is Perl for girlies" type comments.
here it is again...
oh, I see, you're just an ass wipe
I just got a GF4, and let me tell you it absolutely smokes in Linux. It actually performs slightly better in Linux than windows, only too bad that there are few native Linux games. I run a couple games in winex too, but you lose some performance doing that, but the GF4 really helps, now I can run JK2 in 1024 with all details turned on and it runs great.
FWIW, games that run well in winex, usually run more stable than they do in windows, even win2k, but admittedly win2k is plenty stable enough for gaming.
I really hope OpenGL 2 will attract developers away from D3D, that sure would be good for Linux in the future.
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I sure hope not.
How many here would willingly fight to their own deaths to start a revolution against such an authority? I would.
If so, why?
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For example, simply look at the nature of all life. There are many different types of life, even among the same species there are variations. Within a single species, there is usually enough variation that if a nasty disease spreads throught that species, there are likely to be many (of the same species) that are varied enough that they will not be destroyed by that disease.
Another example, MS Outlook. While it's arguable whether or not MS Outlook is responsible for the security breaches related to it, you simply cannot argue that these problems would have been less disasterous had organizations not used one single email program.
While a monoculture isn't necessarily more prone to have security breaches, they are definately more prone to disaster.
And damn, I sure know what you mean about banking websites...
And FWIW, IMHO, web standards SHOULD be taken seriously, as having MS entirely control how people access the web just solidifies their monopoly in a whole new area, which is dangerous to the entire computing industry. Enough damage and stagnation in this industry has been done already.
JMHO
I'm just glad I don't work with people as unprofessional as you...
20 Months subscription? $100? You don't need a 20 month subscription, you can subscribe whenever you want to upgrade. winex isn't going to stop working if you stop subscribing. And you can still use the CVS version if your a wanker who refuses to pay for anything, but you'll have to find nocd cracks for your games.
Note to fucktards, D3D *IS* SUPPORTED IN THE CVS VERSION, just not safedisk.
And why would you have to throw your Radeon away, it's got Linux support and from what I hear it works pretty well, and trangaming has been working on improving support for DRI drivers. Still, your better off with a Geforce anyway(in linux or windows) because the drivers are MUCH better.
And for some people, rebooting to windows to play a game for a few minutes just isn't an option. I often play games as I'm taking a break from working on something, and I'm not about to close all my work to reboot to windows, and what if I'm downloading something? Personally, I find it much less painful to use winex than to reboot to windows.
Why not upgrade your TNT2 to a GF3 or 4? They're the best video cards around right now, and they will be until other card vendors start using a better driver architecture(like NVIDIA's "unified driver architecture") and stop having to write an entirely new driver for ever new card they develop. That would also make it much more reasonable for other vendors to support Linux, as it would take much less resources to do so.
I agree with you about Linux being a powerful gaming platform. It is way the hell better than windows. All Linux needs is more commercial support, and easier driver setup tools.