That's a bit different... You did grind it up first, right?
We ate an old rooster once. It tasted good, but it was chewier than a big hunk of rubber in your mouth.
The source of the story was a couple of weeks ago about a shipping container shipped from Ireland to Bulgaria full of beef sides that had been stored for 20 or so years that was turned back by Bulgarian customs agents...
The marbling comes from packing the fat converted from the excess carbohydrates from being fed a high-carb diet, not from the antibiotics. The antibiotics in the feed increase the ability to feed cows this kind of diet in a feedlot or confined environment. Most beef cows are range-fed (can't beat BLM leases), because that's the cheapest way to feed them, bar none, if you have access to it. They get rounded up and "finished" at feedlots.
The flora of a ruminent are greatly affected by the pH level in the rumen. A high-carb diet, especially one in corn, causes a lower pH level than a grass diet in the rumen. This changes the flora in the rumen and intestine significantly, so that if these changes are not circumvented (by antibiotics, calcium carbonate, etc.), it becomes pretty easy for a stressed ruminant to go into ketosis, bloat, etc., which are all acutely bad for the animal. The pH level in the rumen does affect the pH level in the bloodstream...
Most dairy cows these days are confinement-raised. It's more cost-effective for most dairy farmers to utilize the land for raising feedstock that is not grazed rather than pasture (yes, in the long run it's the same thing if your feed is ensiled grass or alfalfa).
Not too many dairies around where I live (Rickreall Dairy, De Jong Dairy, etc) turn their cows out to pasture anymore. They still are pastured up by Tillamook. Driving through the Treasure Valley (I-84 between Nampa and Boise, ID), most of the dairies seem to be confinement operations... For the bigger dairies (1000+ cows), it does become a management issue, too. Is it feasible to bring in 1000 cows twice a day from pasture? No, probably not. But it is possible if they're only a few hundred feet max away from the milking racks...
Well, it's all up to the honesty of the farmer, actually. Most veterinary drugs have withdrawl times to make sure that they're out of the system of the animal. Ivomectrin is like 60 days or something like that (it's probably the most popular, and powerful, broad spectrum anti-parasitic drug. And it just went generic in the last year or so...).
If you're getting locker meat, the butcher/slaughterhouse is not testing the meat (locker meat, where you ostensibly buy the animal from the farmer and pick it up in neatly wrapped packages), nor is a USDA vet checking it out, either.
The USDA inspection process is mostly a visual check anyways: parasites in lungs, liver, heart? physical problems on the carcass? all the shit washed off of it? If so, it's good to go.
It's a trade-off.
At least you're not in Bulgaria getting sausage made from 20 yr old (yes, meat stored for 20 years) meat shipped there from Ireland...
Hmm... Poultry feed typically (it's hard to buy unmedicated poultry feed, btw, because chickens and turkeys get cocci, and get screwed up by it, rather easily) has amprolium in it, to prevent coccidiosis. Ruminant feeds can have some amprolium or antibiotics to prevent "overeating disease" (onset by ruminants typically moving off of grass feed to grain, like when they get moved to a feedlot). I have a bottle of sulfamethiazine sodium (sulmet) sitting on my table here, which can be used in water supplies to help prevent cocci as well in poultry and ruminants.
The situations where drugs are added to concentrated grain products are typically where the animals are not going to be getting anything besides grain products for their primary nutrition: feedlots, confinement dairy, commercial poultry and pork. It's cost-prohibitive to really do it if one is a small producer.
Penicillin isn't used in feeds much anymore, because it's been outlawed in the US, iirc. Besides, not much point putting it in feed when most infections it was designed to treat are penicillin-resistant now.
Most of the fall lambs grown in the Willamette Valley, OR, are raised over the winter on annual rye grass fields. They get sheared, right about now, and get sent to slaughter w/o seeing a feedlot. But this is just one small area, and not typical of the rest of the country.
For most people, margins on livestock (despite recent good prices) are pretty low, and prophylacticly treating livestock through feed or water is too expensive.
Hint: If you can find grass-fed meat (poultry, lamb, beef), it might be worth trying out. Not good, though, if you're on a Wal-Mart budget, unfortunately... And buy it from the farmer if you can (locker meat).
Yep. It's the mechanical action of washing one's hands, along with the chemical action of the soap on most germs, that does the most good. If the soap doesn't bust open the germs, it helps carry them away in suspension.
Washing only with water is about as good as not washing at all.
Ahh, but the process of Science is democratic, and certainly is political, albeit generally not in the public eye.
Darwin's debate is a fact of science. There are lots of facts that support the observations/conclusions/inferences that evolution theory brings up. There were lots of "facts" and "observations" that supported phrenology, but once people got off of the phrenology dogma and actually started to try and apply it, it fell apart.
At least most of the facts and observations that evolution theory tries to make are repeatable or repeatably observable. Simply waving one's hands at something and saying "God must have created that" (implying all the other values and judgement that go with that statement) is...wacky.
Just like there are a few scientists who doubt Einstein's relativity laws, some out ouf sheer stubbornness or stubborn ignorance, others out of "there's got to be a bit more to it than that", or "it's not quite 'elegant' enough" (at least these scientists are pushing forward), etc. There are others who argue against quantum mechanics "just because", because it fails to answer really the "why" well enough for them. At least they do not argue against the observations that QM explains, i.e., quantum tunneling, etc.
The good news is now Vista can be copied too! And since it's alot easier to copy than it is to lead, I expect Linux to catch up again in relative short order. The good news for those waiting for Vista is that it'll just be another 3-5 years before MS releases the next version after that, which should catch up pretty much to OSX (But the Macs will be on, what...OS XIV?)
Midway through the game, Master Chef tears off his battle armor and...it's really Duke Nukem in disguise! But wait. What happens to the little orcish imps and the other baddies, then? Where will all the hot chicks in minimalistic clothing come from?
It's more along the lines of JAR/EAR/WAR files for Java web applications, not for Linux apps typically installed by tar/rpm/deb/whatever. Thus, the *cross platform* talk about XULRunner, because the same install file, like a JAR file, should be as droppable and runnable into a Windows/Moz platform as a ZSeries/Linux/Moz server, just like a good generic JAR'd app is droppable into Tomcat, JBoss, Weblogic, Websphere, etc.
You don't need to be root to install software for the current user, even on Windows.
Actually, on Windows XP (SP2?), if you are in the wrong user permission group (i.e., Power Users), you can't properly install most software. It won't let you install apps in X:\Program Files, for example, because you won't be able to create directories or manipulate files in that tree. IT won't let you load stuff into X:\Windows or X:\Windows\System32, either. Yes, I was able to "install" some of the GNU utilities for Win32 (gawk), but I couldn't add the directory to the PATH environment variable, couldn't install it in X:\Program Files (or manually copy it to a folder there), or move gawk.exe to X:\Windows. Luckily, I knew the sys admins, and I got local administrator privs.
Mach was handy, they only need a substrate to run their desktop environment atop. Remember that NextStep was ported to Windows once already and that NT based systems are a small sorta microkernel with one or more subsystems sitting atop it.
No, NextStep 3.0 on Intel was about as Windows-dependent or -based as x86 Linux is. It was still a Mach microkernal/BSD-based Unix at the core for the OS. You did not need a Windows license to run Nextstep 3.0 when it came out on x86's (but of course paid for the Win3.x license with the PC).
Unless you're thinking of all the various OpenStep-based Shell replacements (like LiteStep, LDX, OpenStep, GnuStep, DarkStep, etc), but those are clones running in Windows.
The problem is, the people who really matter in the US, aren't you or me or Joe Sixpack, but our 541 honorable and esteemable representatives and senators, their staffs, their lobbyists, and various other rulemakers, policy deciders, advisors, etc. throughout the rest of the executive branch offices that could have an effect on the MPAA, but instead like the "IOC Board Member" treatment they get under the covers from the MPAA and RIAA.
At least Google hasn't corroborated to the point of getting at least two dissidents turned over to Chinese authorities for [torture and then] imprisonment.
You mean, like all the logistical and material support provided to Pakistan still after that big earthquake in their northern regions? Like all the military and logistical aid provided in Indonesia after the tsunamis last Christmas?
Sure, the US military carries them out, but in a humanitarian role. US involvements in the Baltics were, on a high level, humanitarian as well.
VESA Local Bus did have various other cards besides video cards available for it, including high performance disk drive controllers. AGP's design was deliberate by Intel to really only be useful for video cards, such as its mostly one-way data flow. Intel wasn't too happy with the VLB design, which was pretty much a hack, and also that it couldn't control how it was used, and was concerned about the power requirements and having to design for potential bad VLB card designs to protect itself.
People said the same thing about the old Logitech Scanman portable scanners (twas about the size of a trackball. With the software, it made it easy enough to join up scan strips into one whole). Then there is the Visioneer scanners, etc. Now would be a digital camera with a ring flash and a good high quality macro lens and good quality sensor. The flash would need to be bright enough yet diffuse enough to allow for hand-held picture taking, and if the optics are good enough so that simulating pixels (ala digital resolution) isn't a bad deal, either.
So, on the flip side, if the Creator created the universe, then who/what created the Creator, or the Creator before that, etc.?
The biblical account states the first thing in the created universe was light
No, like the Big Bang Theory, it states that the origin was that. But what was the base material for this "light" to be created from? And on and on and on.
You see, the Big Bang theory provides no answer to origins at all, it just defers the ultimate question further back in time. The Creation Story does nothing different, either. So what's your point?
The whole argument becomes dogma when told, "God made it, so stop questioning it." "Your questions are not valid, because God made it."
Just as equal, no one can come up with a general, exact solution to the N-body gravitational attraction problem. Instead, all we have are these fancy computer simulations of some given number of bodies, with all the mathematical tricks and transforms to actually compute them out in a humanly useful timeframe, and assumptions that the math is correct.
Nor do we really know how or why a flock of birds or school of fish manouvers in apparant synchronization at random times, yet we have mathematically based computer simulations that model the movements quite well, but do nothing to figure out the "how" or "why".
Belief (not scientific fact) in Intelligent Design is simply the belief that, that which exists is too complex to have occurred by chance alone and that an intelligent creator (God or god depending on ones belief system) created all that exists and existence itself, through an unspecified means.
I think that what is also implied with a lot of this is also the "don't need to research it, as it just comes from the Creator, and we don't research things that might reveal the Creator to be not what we thought it was." Look at Copernicus. Look at Galileo. Look at Da Vinci. All three poked holes in what would be during their times "Intelligent Design", with all the taboos, dont-go-theres, etc. that religiously inspired philosophies which lump That Which We Don't Know (Yet) as work of The Creator, and thus, off limits.
(Galileo and Copernicus are probably obvious. Da Vinci did the first autopsies, when it was a big no-no to open up human bodies. Good thing he didn't get found out, or he probably would have been burned at the stake).
How long did European humanity stumble along with Aristotle's 4 Humors, etc., with all the religious and social prohibitions against looking into that further?
Some people are always questioning, and those who don't like answering questions fall back to all sorts of things, with the ultimate retort now being the tenets of "Intelligent Design": "God made it, so why bother asking about it. That is good enough"
My main retorts to ID are then, "So, if it's 'intelligent', why would someone/something create mosquitoes, ticks, flees, chiggers, bedbugs, etc.?"
Here's a good biology experiment to be made regarding the role of parasites in the ecology of an environment. A scientist in California made an observation that a marshy area was biologically rich *BECAUSE* of the lifecycle requirements of a parasite, and posited that the area would probably be 30% less diverse without the parasite (parasite caused weird behaviors in fish, which caused more of them to look edible, which brought in more fish-eating birds, which increased chances of parasite which...)
Do you live near a marshy lake or estuary? Could you observe some of the same things in that area? Finding an area to make differential observations might be tricky, and you may not want to try and effect the same conditions elsewhere...
In Bellingham, WA, if you want to get "college-level" high school education, you go to Sehome HS. It is right next to campus of Western Washington University, and relative to the rest of Bellingham and Whatcom County, has probably more WWU professors in-district and their kids than any other school district in Bellingham or Whatcom County. If you were serious into college prep in high school, your parents will probably move into that district...
It was always a pleasure beating their team in Knowledge Bowl, however.
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That's a bit different... You did grind it up first, right?
We ate an old rooster once. It tasted good, but it was chewier than a big hunk of rubber in your mouth.
The source of the story was a couple of weeks ago about a shipping container shipped from Ireland to Bulgaria full of beef sides that had been stored for 20 or so years that was turned back by Bulgarian customs agents...
The marbling comes from packing the fat converted from the excess carbohydrates from being fed a high-carb diet, not from the antibiotics. The antibiotics in the feed increase the ability to feed cows this kind of diet in a feedlot or confined environment. Most beef cows are range-fed (can't beat BLM leases), because that's the cheapest way to feed them, bar none, if you have access to it. They get rounded up and "finished" at feedlots.
The flora of a ruminent are greatly affected by the pH level in the rumen. A high-carb diet, especially one in corn, causes a lower pH level than a grass diet in the rumen. This changes the flora in the rumen and intestine significantly, so that if these changes are not circumvented (by antibiotics, calcium carbonate, etc.), it becomes pretty easy for a stressed ruminant to go into ketosis, bloat, etc., which are all acutely bad for the animal. The pH level in the rumen does affect the pH level in the bloodstream...
Most dairy cows these days are confinement-raised. It's more cost-effective for most dairy farmers to utilize the land for raising feedstock that is not grazed rather than pasture (yes, in the long run it's the same thing if your feed is ensiled grass or alfalfa).
Not too many dairies around where I live (Rickreall Dairy, De Jong Dairy, etc) turn their cows out to pasture anymore.
They still are pastured up by Tillamook. Driving through the Treasure Valley (I-84 between Nampa and Boise, ID), most of the dairies seem to be confinement operations... For the bigger dairies (1000+ cows), it does become a management issue, too. Is it feasible to bring in 1000 cows twice a day from pasture? No, probably not. But it is possible if they're only a few hundred feet max away from the milking racks...
Well, it's all up to the honesty of the farmer, actually. Most veterinary drugs have withdrawl times to make sure that they're out of the system of the animal. Ivomectrin is like 60 days or something like that (it's probably the most popular, and powerful, broad spectrum anti-parasitic drug. And it just went generic in the last year or so...).
If you're getting locker meat, the butcher/slaughterhouse is not testing the meat (locker meat, where you ostensibly buy the animal from the farmer and pick it up in neatly wrapped packages), nor is a USDA vet checking it out, either.
The USDA inspection process is mostly a visual check anyways: parasites in lungs, liver, heart? physical problems on the carcass? all the shit washed off of it? If so, it's good to go.
It's a trade-off.
At least you're not in Bulgaria getting sausage made from 20 yr old (yes, meat stored for 20 years) meat shipped there from Ireland...
Hmm... Poultry feed typically (it's hard to buy unmedicated poultry feed, btw, because chickens and turkeys get cocci, and get screwed up by it, rather easily) has amprolium in it, to prevent coccidiosis. Ruminant feeds can have some amprolium or antibiotics to prevent "overeating disease" (onset by ruminants typically moving off of grass feed to grain, like when they get moved to a feedlot). I have a bottle of sulfamethiazine sodium (sulmet) sitting on my table here, which can be used in water supplies to help prevent cocci as well in poultry and ruminants.
The situations where drugs are added to concentrated grain products are typically where the animals are not going to be getting anything besides grain products for their primary nutrition: feedlots, confinement dairy, commercial poultry and pork. It's cost-prohibitive to really do it if one is a small producer.
Penicillin isn't used in feeds much anymore, because it's been outlawed in the US, iirc. Besides, not much point putting it in feed when most infections it was designed to treat are penicillin-resistant now.
Most of the fall lambs grown in the Willamette Valley, OR, are raised over the winter on annual rye grass fields. They get sheared, right about now, and get sent to slaughter w/o seeing a feedlot. But this is just one small area, and not typical of the rest of the country.
For most people, margins on livestock (despite recent good prices) are pretty low, and prophylacticly treating livestock through feed or water is too expensive.
Hint: If you can find grass-fed meat (poultry, lamb, beef), it might be worth trying out. Not good, though, if you're on a Wal-Mart budget, unfortunately... And buy it from the farmer if you can (locker meat).
Yep. It's the mechanical action of washing one's hands, along with the chemical action of the soap on most germs, that does the most good. If the soap doesn't bust open the germs, it helps carry them away in suspension.
Washing only with water is about as good as not washing at all.
Ahh, but the process of Science is democratic, and certainly is political, albeit generally not in the public eye.
Darwin's debate is a fact of science. There are lots of facts that support the observations/conclusions/inferences that evolution theory brings up. There were lots of "facts" and "observations" that supported phrenology, but once people got off of the phrenology dogma and actually started to try and apply it, it fell apart.
At least most of the facts and observations that evolution theory tries to make are repeatable or repeatably observable. Simply waving one's hands at something and saying "God must have created that" (implying all the other values and judgement that go with that statement) is...wacky.
Just like there are a few scientists who doubt Einstein's relativity laws, some out ouf sheer stubbornness or stubborn ignorance, others out of "there's got to be a bit more to it than that", or "it's not quite 'elegant' enough" (at least these scientists are pushing forward), etc. There are others who argue against quantum mechanics "just because", because it fails to answer really the "why" well enough for them. At least they do not argue against the observations that QM explains, i.e., quantum tunneling, etc.
At least if you buy the PDF's, Pragmatic Programmers iteratively "develops" the PDFs, so you can d/l a new version at a later date.
Again, how many Java books did you buy, that you rebought after each major Java upgrade, etc.?
The good news is now Vista can be copied too! And since it's alot easier to copy than it is to lead, I expect Linux to catch up again in relative short order.
The good news for those waiting for Vista is that it'll just be another 3-5 years before MS releases the next version after that, which should catch up pretty much to OSX (But the Macs will be on, what...OS XIV?)
Buy CD's at the used CD stores, and then rip to MP3/Ogg/whatever?
If they take away Fair Use, they'll have a tougher time getting rid of First Sale.
What VIC joystick? All most people used were the joysticks off their Atari 2600's.
Midway through the game, Master Chef tears off his battle armor and...it's really Duke Nukem in disguise! But wait. What happens to the little orcish imps and the other baddies, then? Where will all the hot chicks in minimalistic clothing come from?
It's more along the lines of JAR/EAR/WAR files for Java web applications, not for Linux apps typically installed by tar/rpm/deb/whatever. Thus, the *cross platform* talk about XULRunner, because the same install file, like a JAR file, should be as droppable and runnable into a Windows/Moz platform as a ZSeries/Linux/Moz server, just like a good generic JAR'd app is droppable into Tomcat, JBoss, Weblogic, Websphere, etc.
You don't need to be root to install software for the current user, even on Windows.
Actually, on Windows XP (SP2?), if you are in the wrong user permission group (i.e., Power Users), you can't properly install most software. It won't let you install apps in X:\Program Files, for example, because you won't be able to create directories or manipulate files in that tree. IT won't let you load stuff into X:\Windows or X:\Windows\System32, either. Yes, I was able to "install" some of the GNU utilities for Win32 (gawk), but I couldn't add the directory to the PATH environment variable, couldn't install it in X:\Program Files (or manually copy it to a folder there), or move gawk.exe to X:\Windows. Luckily, I knew the sys admins, and I got local administrator privs.
Just recently dealt with this, btw.
IBM had a lot involved with OpenDoc as well (remember reading some of the Byte articles about it).
Too bad OpenDoc lost. Try embedding a OLE container in a Word document that spans a page break. Or non-rectangular containers.
Oh, OpenDoc did this.
Mach was handy, they only need a substrate to run their desktop environment atop. Remember that NextStep was ported to Windows once already and that NT based systems are a small sorta microkernel with one or more subsystems sitting atop it.
No, NextStep 3.0 on Intel was about as Windows-dependent or -based as x86 Linux is. It was still a Mach microkernal/BSD-based Unix at the core for the OS. You did not need a Windows license to run Nextstep 3.0 when it came out on x86's (but of course paid for the Win3.x license with the PC).
Unless you're thinking of all the various OpenStep-based Shell replacements (like LiteStep, LDX, OpenStep, GnuStep, DarkStep, etc), but those are clones running in Windows.
The problem is, the people who really matter in the US, aren't you or me or Joe Sixpack, but our 541 honorable and esteemable representatives and senators, their staffs, their lobbyists, and various other rulemakers, policy deciders, advisors, etc. throughout the rest of the executive branch offices that could have an effect on the MPAA, but instead like the "IOC Board Member" treatment they get under the covers from the MPAA and RIAA.
Well, it's a good policy for China. Run a state-owned corporation, and really mess up, and you could end up in front of a firing squad.
At least Google hasn't corroborated to the point of getting at least two dissidents turned over to Chinese authorities for [torture and then] imprisonment.
You mean, like all the logistical and material support provided to Pakistan still after that big earthquake in their northern regions? Like all the military and logistical aid provided in Indonesia after the tsunamis last Christmas?
Sure, the US military carries them out, but in a humanitarian role. US involvements in the Baltics were, on a high level, humanitarian as well.
VESA Local Bus did have various other cards besides video cards available for it, including high performance disk drive controllers. AGP's design was deliberate by Intel to really only be useful for video cards, such as its mostly one-way data flow. Intel wasn't too happy with the VLB design, which was pretty much a hack, and also that it couldn't control how it was used, and was concerned about the power requirements and having to design for potential bad VLB card designs to protect itself.
People said the same thing about the old Logitech Scanman portable scanners (twas about the size of a trackball. With the software, it made it easy enough to join up scan strips into one whole). Then there is the Visioneer scanners, etc. Now would be a digital camera with a ring flash and a good high quality macro lens and good quality sensor. The flash would need to be bright enough yet diffuse enough to allow for hand-held picture taking, and if the optics are good enough so that simulating pixels (ala digital resolution) isn't a bad deal, either.
So, on the flip side, if the Creator created the universe, then who/what created the Creator, or the Creator before that, etc.?
The biblical account states the first thing in the created universe was light
No, like the Big Bang Theory, it states that the origin was that. But what was the base material for this "light" to be created from? And on and on and on.
You see, the Big Bang theory provides no answer to origins at all, it just defers the ultimate question further back in time.
The Creation Story does nothing different, either. So what's your point?
The whole argument becomes dogma when told, "God made it, so stop questioning it." "Your questions are not valid, because God made it."
Just as equal, no one can come up with a general, exact solution to the N-body gravitational attraction problem. Instead, all we have are these fancy computer simulations of some given number of bodies, with all the mathematical tricks and transforms to actually compute them out in a humanly useful timeframe, and assumptions that the math is correct.
Nor do we really know how or why a flock of birds or school of fish manouvers in apparant synchronization at random times, yet we have mathematically based computer simulations that model the movements quite well, but do nothing to figure out the "how" or "why".
Belief (not scientific fact) in Intelligent Design is simply the belief that, that which exists is too complex to have occurred by chance alone and that an intelligent creator (God or god depending on ones belief system) created all that exists and existence itself, through an unspecified means.
I think that what is also implied with a lot of this is also the "don't need to research it, as it just comes from the Creator, and we don't research things that might reveal the Creator to be not what we thought it was." Look at Copernicus. Look at Galileo. Look at Da Vinci. All three poked holes in what would be during their times "Intelligent Design", with all the taboos, dont-go-theres, etc. that religiously inspired philosophies which lump That Which We Don't Know (Yet) as work of The Creator, and thus, off limits.
(Galileo and Copernicus are probably obvious. Da Vinci did the first autopsies, when it was a big no-no to open up human bodies. Good thing he didn't get found out, or he probably would have been burned at the stake).
How long did European humanity stumble along with Aristotle's 4 Humors, etc., with all the religious and social prohibitions against looking into that further?
Some people are always questioning, and those who don't like answering questions fall back to all sorts of things, with the ultimate retort now being the tenets of "Intelligent Design": "God made it, so why bother asking about it. That is good enough"
My main retorts to ID are then, "So, if it's 'intelligent', why would someone/something create mosquitoes, ticks, flees, chiggers, bedbugs, etc.?"
Here's a good biology experiment to be made regarding the role of parasites in the ecology of an environment. A scientist in California made an observation that a marshy area was biologically rich *BECAUSE* of the lifecycle requirements of a parasite, and posited that the area would probably be 30% less diverse without the parasite (parasite caused weird behaviors in fish, which caused more of them to look edible, which brought in more fish-eating birds, which increased chances of parasite which...)
Do you live near a marshy lake or estuary? Could you observe some of the same things in that area? Finding an area to make differential observations might be tricky, and you may not want to try and effect the same conditions elsewhere...
In Bellingham, WA, if you want to get "college-level" high school education, you go to Sehome HS. It is right next to campus of Western Washington University, and relative to the rest of Bellingham and Whatcom County, has probably more WWU professors in-district and their kids than any other school district in Bellingham or Whatcom County. If you were serious into college prep in high school, your parents will probably move into that district...
It was always a pleasure beating their team in Knowledge Bowl, however.