And if you wanted to use Yahoo as a pure search engine, just go to http://search.yahoo.com/. They don't force you into the portal page.
Re:FreeBSD is free'er, MacOS X better for users
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I was voicing my dislike of the GPL. Yes, I don't like it and I don't use it. But if you want to, be my guest. Put your code under house arrest. I never said you shouldn't.
Linux does not beat any BSD on speed or flexibility. Perhaps you have something with support. However, BSDs do beat or match BSD on speed and flexibility. There's a reason why Internet2 bandwidth records are held by NetBSD and not Linux.
[Linux is] king of the Unix family
If, by king, you mean it's popular, then you're right. However, if you're talking about quality, you better have something to back it up with other than "Well, they're using it, so I might as well be using it to!"
Re:The real difference...
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Are you kidding me? So *BSD is made of PHD holding engineers who are absolutely the most mature people ever. While Linux developers are blathering idiots who wouldn't know '==' from '='?
In comparison, yes.
Linux community = larger, therefore we have more "fanboys". With such a broad culture of people you're bound to run into a few you don't particularly like. I have been using Linux for 5 years. I'm not insanely anti-Microsoft, no I don't like their business but I don't go around telling everyone they are idiots for using their stuff. I really don't care what people use. I use my computers to get things done, I can do all those things in Linux so I choose to.
Yeah, so what? I like a small community as opposed to a large one, mainly because it doesn't attract band-wagon jumpers-on, who then naturally become part of the "It's the greatest thing since sliced bread!" crowd.
So I guess I kinda break up your statistic there huh? Probably the other thousands of people who just use Linux to get things done might as well.
Not really. You fit into them rather nicely.
You act like people just walked into developing Linux. "Jee you know what, I have no clue about anything computers but I think I'll make a kernel today!".
Um... That was almost the approach Linus took. He didn't really study existing kernels or anything. He just went for it. In fact, it started out as a terminal emulator and evolved from there. Not exactly screaming great engineering.
Post when you actually have something other then anecdotal evidence to try and make you look intelligent. Oh wait this is Slashdot, thats asking too much.
Highly suggest you do the same. As you said, that is far too much to ask (okay, I added the "far").
Re:FreeBSD is nice and clean
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What kind of weird mind reading powers do you have? The original poster made no mention of "latest and greatest software". Further, there is very little software which will not run on FreeBSD.
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Because you ummm... NEVER OWNED IT IN THE FIRST PLACE? You don't own the GPL software. Just because the combined work contains some of your work too, doesn't mean you get to own the whole kaboodle. You can do whatever you want with your diffs. Just don't pretend that you have any right whatsoever to distribute your work with my work except on the terms I allow
So, wait, if I spend weeks if not months writing a kernel module or a driver, I don't own it? Good to know. *runs to BSD* What if I harden the kernel to make up for your security lacking, huh? What? Again, not mine? Even though I worked so hard on it, going through many cases of Red Bull? *runs faster*
Funny, the BSD license is the best way to lose control over what you create. Someone like Microsoft can take all your "hard work", modify it slightly and sell it back to you. A big part of what OS X is worth is what BSD is worth. But the BSD developers all have to pay full price to use their own work. Granted, not the best of examples since Apple has contributed a lot, but you get the general idea.
I didn't lose anything. I still own it. It's still mine. I can do with it what I want. Microsoft used the power I gave them. Likewise, any modifications they make they fully own.
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The question is, are you drunk? I didn't object to you applying your terms. In fact, I supported such a decision. I was stating why I support my license, one which permits such freedom, and why I don't support another, which denies such freedom.
You're citing popularity instead of reason. By your logic, Windows is the right choice for both server and desktop. Windows is employed across the board at most Fortune 500 companies. Windows is what Linux and FreeBSD should have been.
The reality is Linux is more popular. Why? Who knows. But it is (an article on that would be nice). As a result, it gets the attention. Period.
As for this article not being news (which I largely agree with), then the Firefox usage statistics and ever stupid Google Labs release shouldn't be news either (For the love of God, remove the Google crap!).
Re:The real difference...
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The reason you'll see just as many BSD fanatics as Linux nuts is for just the same reason: the license.
Not a bad reason but a minor reason for most people. Unless you're writing kernel patches or selling a product using the code, do you really care?
My main reason for choosing *BSD over Linux is the community. Linux seems to be... Well, like Slashdot. A bunch of immature kids.
The *BSD culture (minus) seems to be one of pure engineers. They are writing code because they need or want it. It's usually top-quality, being released only after it works and works right. There's thought and design behind the code.
There isn't as much anti-Microsftness, or anti-commercial-softwareness, or anti-Linuxness even. It's still there, no doubt, but in smaller numbers, generally breaking out once in a blue moon.
These are people who seem to have been around the bush once or twice. They have some time under their belt, they know what they are doing (or at least appear to). In short, they are mature in almost every sense of the word.
I can't say any of this about Linux. But this is one mans opinion. (Yes, I know it's ironic comparing Linux users to Slashdotters while posting on Slashdot.)
So he installed FreeBSD and saw the blindling light of... Eliteness(?).
Don't judge a man by his email address.
-HyperChicken hyperchicken@goatse.cx
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If you're looking for something close to the style of FreeBSD, but with the new and freshness of Linux, try Gentoo.
Great idea, sir! Spend 6+ hours compiling something. Hooray!
Then again, you could have just installed FreeBSD and saved yourself 5.5 hours.
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The BSD doesn't take away freedom from the little guy. The BSD doesn't do anything. People who use BSD-licensed software and donate the code back are the ones not being nice to the little guy.
And why should they be nice to the little guy? If they work hard on modify the software, they should own it. A stupid license shouldn't remove their ownership and control over what they create.
The GPL, however, does take away freedom from anyone: If I modify GPL software, I am no longer allowed to own it and do with it what I see fit.
I have MSBlaster! And Slammer! No, you got to believe me. They keep attempt to spread from within me. It's very annoying and has cost me three friends already -- I can't loose many more! And this Norton Anti-Virus doesn't seem to be working. I don't even know where to put the CD!
so it would make more sense to provide a movie where the audience is more likely to make use of the service
What kind of weird fantasy world do you live in? FOX isn't providing a service with Futurama. It's a product that is designed to make money. They'll do whatever they can to make the most money from it.
I've used Windows, Solaris, and Linux. But if google made an os, I would switch to that pretty quickly.
Yeah, you didn't drink the Google koolaid. I mean, you already pledged to switch to Google OS before it is even announced (and likely before they are even working on it).
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And if you wanted to use Yahoo as a pure search engine, just go to http://search.yahoo.com/. They don't force you into the portal page.
I was voicing my dislike of the GPL. Yes, I don't like it and I don't use it. But if you want to, be my guest. Put your code under house arrest. I never said you shouldn't.
Nice spin, by the way.
Linux does not beat any BSD on speed or flexibility. Perhaps you have something with support. However, BSDs do beat or match BSD on speed and flexibility. There's a reason why Internet2 bandwidth records are held by NetBSD and not Linux.
[Linux is] king of the Unix family
If, by king, you mean it's popular, then you're right. However, if you're talking about quality, you better have something to back it up with other than "Well, they're using it, so I might as well be using it to!"
Are you kidding me? So *BSD is made of PHD holding engineers who are absolutely the most mature people ever. While Linux developers are blathering idiots who wouldn't know '==' from '='?
In comparison, yes.
Linux community = larger, therefore we have more "fanboys". With such a broad culture of people you're bound to run into a few you don't particularly like. I have been using Linux for 5 years. I'm not insanely anti-Microsoft, no I don't like their business but I don't go around telling everyone they are idiots for using their stuff. I really don't care what people use. I use my computers to get things done, I can do all those things in Linux so I choose to.
Yeah, so what? I like a small community as opposed to a large one, mainly because it doesn't attract band-wagon jumpers-on, who then naturally become part of the "It's the greatest thing since sliced bread!" crowd.
So I guess I kinda break up your statistic there huh? Probably the other thousands of people who just use Linux to get things done might as well.
Not really. You fit into them rather nicely.
You act like people just walked into developing Linux. "Jee you know what, I have no clue about anything computers but I think I'll make a kernel today!".
Um... That was almost the approach Linus took. He didn't really study existing kernels or anything. He just went for it. In fact, it started out as a terminal emulator and evolved from there. Not exactly screaming great engineering.
Post when you actually have something other then anecdotal evidence to try and make you look intelligent. Oh wait this is Slashdot, thats asking too much.
Highly suggest you do the same. As you said, that is far too much to ask (okay, I added the "far").
What kind of weird mind reading powers do you have? The original poster made no mention of "latest and greatest software". Further, there is very little software which will not run on FreeBSD.
Because you ummm... NEVER OWNED IT IN THE FIRST PLACE? You don't own the GPL software. Just because the combined work contains some of your work too, doesn't mean you get to own the whole kaboodle. You can do whatever you want with your diffs. Just don't pretend that you have any right whatsoever to distribute your work with my work except on the terms I allow
So, wait, if I spend weeks if not months writing a kernel module or a driver, I don't own it? Good to know. *runs to BSD* What if I harden the kernel to make up for your security lacking, huh? What? Again, not mine? Even though I worked so hard on it, going through many cases of Red Bull? *runs faster*
Funny, the BSD license is the best way to lose control over what you create. Someone like Microsoft can take all your "hard work", modify it slightly and sell it back to you. A big part of what OS X is worth is what BSD is worth. But the BSD developers all have to pay full price to use their own work. Granted, not the best of examples since Apple has contributed a lot, but you get the general idea.
I didn't lose anything. I still own it. It's still mine. I can do with it what I want. Microsoft used the power I gave them. Likewise, any modifications they make they fully own.
The question is, are you drunk? I didn't object to you applying your terms. In fact, I supported such a decision. I was stating why I support my license, one which permits such freedom, and why I don't support another, which denies such freedom.
You're citing popularity instead of reason. By your logic, Windows is the right choice for both server and desktop. Windows is employed across the board at most Fortune 500 companies. Windows is what Linux and FreeBSD should have been.
The reality is Linux is more popular. Why? Who knows. But it is (an article on that would be nice). As a result, it gets the attention. Period.
As for this article not being news (which I largely agree with), then the Firefox usage statistics and ever stupid Google Labs release shouldn't be news either (For the love of God, remove the Google crap!).
The reason you'll see just as many BSD fanatics as Linux nuts is for just the same reason: the license.
Not a bad reason but a minor reason for most people. Unless you're writing kernel patches or selling a product using the code, do you really care?
My main reason for choosing *BSD over Linux is the community. Linux seems to be... Well, like Slashdot. A bunch of immature kids.
The *BSD culture (minus) seems to be one of pure engineers. They are writing code because they need or want it. It's usually top-quality, being released only after it works and works right. There's thought and design behind the code.
There isn't as much anti-Microsftness, or anti-commercial-softwareness, or anti-Linuxness even. It's still there, no doubt, but in smaller numbers, generally breaking out once in a blue moon.
These are people who seem to have been around the bush once or twice. They have some time under their belt, they know what they are doing (or at least appear to). In short, they are mature in almost every sense of the word.
I can't say any of this about Linux. But this is one mans opinion. (Yes, I know it's ironic comparing Linux users to Slashdotters while posting on Slashdot.)
So he installed FreeBSD and saw the blindling light of... Eliteness(?).
Don't judge a man by his email address.
-HyperChicken
hyperchicken@goatse.cx
If you're looking for something close to the style of FreeBSD, but with the new and freshness of Linux, try Gentoo.
Great idea, sir! Spend 6+ hours compiling something. Hooray!
Then again, you could have just installed FreeBSD and saved yourself 5.5 hours.
The BSD doesn't take away freedom from the little guy. The BSD doesn't do anything. People who use BSD-licensed software and donate the code back are the ones not being nice to the little guy.
And why should they be nice to the little guy? If they work hard on modify the software, they should own it. A stupid license shouldn't remove their ownership and control over what they create.
The GPL, however, does take away freedom from anyone: If I modify GPL software, I am no longer allowed to own it and do with it what I see fit.
I have MSBlaster! And Slammer! No, you got to believe me. They keep attempt to spread from within me. It's very annoying and has cost me three friends already -- I can't loose many more! And this Norton Anti-Virus doesn't seem to be working. I don't even know where to put the CD!
This is my norm. I'm uncreative.
so it would make more sense to provide a movie where the audience is more likely to make use of the service
What kind of weird fantasy world do you live in? FOX isn't providing a service with Futurama. It's a product that is designed to make money. They'll do whatever they can to make the most money from it.
"Direct to download" isn't one of them.
It's easier to reach the core audience wouldn't you say?
Just because you can reach doesn't mean they'll come.
Just because they come doesn't you'll profit.
And "War Is The H-Word".
Just because it has geek appeal doesn't mean it gets a pass on things that keep all shows from becoming (legally) downloadable.
I'm walking on sunshine! WHOA-O-O!
I've used Windows, Solaris, and Linux. But if google made an os, I would switch to that pretty quickly.
Yeah, you didn't drink the Google koolaid. I mean, you already pledged to switch to Google OS before it is even announced (and likely before they are even working on it).
Of course Google takes a huge cut from it! I mean, it's their main business model. They need to take a large cut.
This is true. "Fact" and "Insightful" rarely go together on Slashdot. The grandparent is a rare case.
Exactly. No one knows my real name is Rex Banner.
Time to pollute Google and the likes with fake information. Websites containing boat loads of fake names, addresses, and phone numbers.
Who's with me?!
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