Well, if by "how do you feel about age discrimination" you mean "I'm a super hot 25 year old woman", and by "Are you open to the idea of adoption" you mean "I want to do you in every state of the union", then I'm all for it. If not, I will probably have to pass.
I'm not sure if I should give an anictdote about seeing the awe on my 19 year old cousin's face when she came to visit and saw the ocean for the first time, or if I should crack a joke about nerds living in their basement because they feel that they can get more out of reading a few books than they can by going out into the real world.
It is great that you can take off work for months at a time and still be able to afford to pay your bills. For the vast majority of people, that is not the case. This submitter is looking for a way that he can continue to work, while at the same time travel the country. The fact that this person could even consider this means that they already have far more leeway in their travel time that the vast majority of people.
The above sarcasm about you not having to have a job aside, you are probably just missing the point do to lack of imagination. This person isn't trying to take work on his 1 or 2 week vacation that he gets a year. He is trying to get an extra 6 or 12 months of travel and exploration ADDED to the 1 or two weeks a year that he already takes that don't include work.
So, who is in the worse position./.er A who gets two weeks away from it all, and 50 weeks of travel where every other week he gets to explore a new part of our country, or/.er B who get two weeks away from it all?
No, it is not. Since I telecommute and I homeschool my child, I have seriously considered packing up an RV and traveling the country. When we want to study the Civil War, we could go spend some time actually visiting historic battles sites. When we want to study the Revolution, we can go to Boston and look at the Boston Harbor. When we study desert ecosystems, we could go to the desert.
In fact, for me, I don't want to go RVing to get away from it all. I want to go RVing to get TO it all.
Given the amount of money to be made by both sides of the Global Warming debate, as well as the huge amount of obviously and verifiably inaccurate information spewed by both sides of the Global warming debate, I don't think that it is the subject you really want to use as a way to mock your opponents.
I agree that good laws are good and bad laws are bad. I will continue to vote for good laws and against bad laws, but that doesn't change the fact that the laws are in effect today. You also show why the laws cannot be fixed. Your suggestion doesn't fix the problem. It just makes the problem take a little longer to show it's flaw. If there is 100% enforcement, and thus everyone is obeying the law, and the speed limit is set to 100 mph, then at the next audit, it would be required to change to 99mph. each time the audit was done, the speed would go down. By the time the speed was 50 mph, the speed would be dropping by 2 mph each audit. Eventually, we would be back to all cars (and bicycles) moving on the road would be in violation of the law.
Also, if 1% of the people are going over the speed limit, then they are not the worst offenders. They are the only offenders.
So, I am not disagreeing that the laws need to be fixed. I am not disagreeing that non-enforcement is a bad thing. I am saying that 100% enforcement of a law that is literally impossible for the public to obey is even worse that the very bad situation we have now.
Wow, you put "you are wrong" in bold cap italics. That must make you right.
I expect a professional teacher to be able to teach other people how to do something that they already know how to do. I also expect that if she is incapable of getting other people who are in the profession of teaching to be motivated to learn, then she clearly does not have the skills to get people motivated to learn, and is thus incompetent.
You can yell all you want, but you are the one that said she could not teach a subject matter that she had already become familiar with. You are the one who said that her and her colleges could not get a piece of consumer equipment to work without bringing in someone else to figure it out for them. You are the one that said it was even a problem for your sister to figure out how to open a cardboard box.
Your yelling is proving my point that our education system is doomed. First you give the description of an incompetent teacher, then you get pissed when someone uses the word that fits your description. Your use of the two untouchable words "Teacher" and "Tech" do not absolve you of being exactly the kind of person that has made our public education a joke.
I don't know about other states, but in CA, when they do an audit of a streets speed limit, they set the speed limit to something like 80% of the average speed. If the law was strictly enforced the way that only inanimate objects can, it would be illegal to drive in CA. And for you bike riders who say 'Good', the speed limits apply to bicycles too.
She's not a tech teacher. As I stated elsewhere in this thread, she teaches English and Math, to 4th graders.
Who cares if she is a 'tech' teacher or not. A competent teacher can teach any material that they know. Your statements say that your sister is incompetent as a teacher.
That is completely different than teaching other people (who, to be honest, don't want to bother with it) things like this.
No, it is not. It is dramatically simpler than math, and if you think that 4th graders want to be bothered with learning Math and English, you are at the very least nieve. This statement reinforces your claims that your sister is incompetent.
Also, as I stated elsewhere, these things were made needlessly "interesting" to get working, because of incompetence on the manufacturer's part.
Doesn't matter. Your sister wasn't the first person to install one of these. There was plenty of information available to her if she was competent in the field of learning. Then after she knew how to install it, the fact that she had serious difficulty passing the information she already had on to others says that both she and the other teachers were incompetent in the field of education. They are perfect examples of the old saying "Those that can't do, teach".
Your posts are a very good example of why our education system cannot be fixed. Our teachers are incompetent at the core skills needed to properly do their jobs, they don't care to be competent, and the public at large is in denial about it.
I had an argument (debate?) with my wife and the cashier about Toys R Us collecting data for tracking reasons. It didn't last long, because when they started telling me I was paranoid, I took one step to the left and pointed to the sign that was posted on the wall of the checkout line that specifically said they were collecting the data for the purpose of tracking personal purchases to better server their customers.
I calculated the payback of my last round of upgrades (two years ago) since the new systems used noticeably less power than the old systems, as well as suspend working on the new systems.
My computer: 6 months to recoup the entire cost in electricity bill savings.
My wife's computer: 3 months to recoup the entire cost in electricity bill savings.
My son's computer: 4 months to recoup the entire cost in electricity bill savings.
I agree and disagree. Not everyone needs typing for post high school employment, but it is more a more common need than most, maybe any, other high school course offered.
Touch typing can certainly be enriching. Maybe as much as any other course. Once you have learned to touch type, you can stop thinking about how to record your words, and just do it. It encourages, review and editing of your own work. It allows the creative to flow without having to worry about the mechanics. How many musicians have you heard of that are creative when they don't 'touch type' their instruments. No doubt you would find the same thing with painters, and sculptors.
That being said, you are right. I see people get by without being able to do what I would consider basic math. People who struggle with multiplication and division. They generally do just fine. Many do just fine without being able to construct a proper sentence. Certainly they can do just fine without being able to type. Yes, it may limit their job choices, but the idea that anyone will be able to do any job is absurd. Society is by it's very nature about specialization. This seems to have been forgotten in education. Not everyone is going to leave school and have every single career path still in front of them, and that is OK.
I would also agree with you that due to the amount of typing in modern leisure activities, it is almost hard to make it to 18 without learning to type. Of course the same can be said for reading. At a recent homeschool conference, I sat in on a round table with other unschoolers. The more radical unschooling parents didn't teach their kids to read. Not one of them had a child over the age of about 8 that didn't learn to read on their own. Now, I am not a radical unschooler, so if my son had not learned to read by 3, I would have been putting real effort into teaching him to read my 5 or 6, but at the end of the day, when the kids needed a skill, they just learned it. Don't take this as saying typing is as important as reading, but just like a child that does not read until 8 or 9 is going to end up behind in many other subjects, the same can be said for typing. The question still remains though... Does it matter?
So, what your saying is that someone who's profession is the transfer of knowledge and how to learn, is lucky to have figured out how to do something new, and the rest of her peers in the same profession are simply incompetent.
These devices are just not that complicated. If a teacher cannot learn how to hook it up with a trivial amount of effort, then perhaps that person shouldn't be a teacher. It's not like classrooms are getting major tech upgrades every other week.
If I was your sister, your comment that "she teaches all the other teachers as best she can" would either shame me for being incompetent, or piss me off for having you spread false rumors about me.
That is a common BS excuse. If I as an individual own a business, and I get put in jail, the same thing will happen. Yes, to fewer people, but there will still be employees and customers that will be affected. Heck, if a housewife with a couple of kids gets thrown in jail, you are punishing more people than just the criminal. What you are advocating is fitting the punishment to the persons station in society. Caste systems are bad. Particularly for the people who are of a lower caste. You are advocating that real live humans are the untouchables of your caste system, and that this is a good thing.
Insightful. Don't you know, there are no conspiracies. All of the laws against conspiracy to commit crimes are just there to make you think that there are conspiracies. When you think there are conspiracies, you are just being duped by "them". When you think that sometimes crimes (or non-criminal acts) are discussed ahead of time by more one person, you are just falling for their plan. After all, that just what "they" want you to think.
Because the author and apparently the majority of Slashdot readers are not as well educated as they think they are. If I write an article about a clothing design I heard about, where I tie knots in white t-shirts, and call the article, 'Dye, Screen Printing, and now "Tie-Dying"', neither putting the words "Tie-Dying" in quotes, nor the fact that I somehow was unaware of the 60's/70's makes Tie-Dying new.
The term was coined in the late 70's. Here is a link to a book that are over a decade old that have the term, right in the title...
Hehe... That's kind of what my son got for his second birthday. About a week after his second birthday, I formatted his hard drive and gave him Windows and Ubuntu CDs. It only took him a couple of hours before he back to playing Klotski on it..
itself not a word, so you're off to a bad start right there)
Just because you don't know the definition of a word does not mean it isn't a word. When a term has been in regular usage for over 30 years it is a word. It is ideas like yours that make this discussion so ironic.
The irony is thick. Talking about the poor education offered by a method that you are obviously ignorant of. Don't feel bad. Public education is all about making definitive decisions based on wildly inaccurate sound bites, so your part of the majority. That makes you a "winner".
Except it is child A that learned how a TV worked because when his quit, he walked over to his computer and looked up the schematics, since that is the kind of thing that unschoolers do. He then used his volt meter to find that it was a $0.20 fuse that blew. He replaced it, and finished watching his cartoons in his pajamas. That or he just looked at the TV and thought, "I wonder how that works" and thus spent the day getting his education on how TVs work.
Child B on the other hand went to Best Buy to bust buy with his parents where they charged a new $2000 TV on their already maxed out credit card because TVs are magic boxes that kill you if you open them.
Unschooling is nothing new. It has been around and extremely popular amongst homeschooling for decades. What is new is that the general public is starting to come to terms with the fact that home school kids, on average, get dramatically better educations than those in the public school system. So, now all of those parents who never thought for themselves about how to educate their kids are joining in on the hip "new" craze of homeschooling. The problem is that the public school system is a business. A business that makes it's money based on the number of enrolled students. So, what they have done is pushed to convince these trendy homeschooling that homeschooling means enrolling your child in a public school, doing all of the same failed curriculum that the public school does, but do it in your home.
While this is certainly one way to homeschool your child, it isn't the only way, nor is it necessarily the best way. Some unschooling milestones for my child have been, learning to read just before turning 3, building his first solo electronics project at 3 (a helicopter launcher), learning to write at 4, being competent to use a PC at 1, doing his first OS install at 2, doing addition at 3, doing multiplication at 4, doing division at 5, being able to explain the civil war and what it's root causes were at 5, understanding the make up of the solar system at 3, etc. etc. etc.
There is no way that sitting at a desk, whether in a room with 20 other kids, or in your own home, you are going to be able to understand something like the Civil War as well as you will if you go out into a field with 200 people who are doing their very best to simulate actual battles. Walking up to a few cannons to see what they actually look like, as well as watching them actually fired is just better for an education than reading about it in a book.
The same can be said for vocabulary. Reading lists of words of of a weekly worksheet is just not going to build a vocabulary as well or as quickly as being exposed to large numbers of words in their proper context.
The difference between unschooling and goofing off pretty much boils down to whether you ask where, when, what, why, and how about the things you see in life. The concern that a parent must know huge sums of knowledge to properly educate their children is a red herring. To properly teach a subject, you only need to be about one level above the student. If your education does not allow you to teach at a 6th grade level, perhaps one should ask themselves why they don't even have a 7th grade education.
I actually support public education, because in my immense arrogance, I believe that not every parent is going to give their child the kind of quality education that I give mine. Given that there are some truly stupid people in the world, public education creates a chance to stop a downward spiral of ignorance. Public education isn't inherently a problem. It has just become a beast that has gotten out of control with an insatiable thirst for money and no accountability for producing results.
The meat can convert plants that human cannot eat into food that we can. a few bails of hay will do better at keeping meat fresh than it will at keeping a human alive and healthy.
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Well, if by "how do you feel about age discrimination" you mean "I'm a super hot 25 year old woman", and by "Are you open to the idea of adoption" you mean "I want to do you in every state of the union", then I'm all for it. If not, I will probably have to pass.
I'm not sure if I should give an anictdote about seeing the awe on my 19 year old cousin's face when she came to visit and saw the ocean for the first time, or if I should crack a joke about nerds living in their basement because they feel that they can get more out of reading a few books than they can by going out into the real world.
Well, I guess I'll make both.
It is great that you can take off work for months at a time and still be able to afford to pay your bills. For the vast majority of people, that is not the case. This submitter is looking for a way that he can continue to work, while at the same time travel the country. The fact that this person could even consider this means that they already have far more leeway in their travel time that the vast majority of people.
/.er A who gets two weeks away from it all, and 50 weeks of travel where every other week he gets to explore a new part of our country, or /.er B who get two weeks away from it all?
The above sarcasm about you not having to have a job aside, you are probably just missing the point do to lack of imagination. This person isn't trying to take work on his 1 or 2 week vacation that he gets a year. He is trying to get an extra 6 or 12 months of travel and exploration ADDED to the 1 or two weeks a year that he already takes that don't include work.
So, who is in the worse position.
No, it is not. Since I telecommute and I homeschool my child, I have seriously considered packing up an RV and traveling the country. When we want to study the Civil War, we could go spend some time actually visiting historic battles sites. When we want to study the Revolution, we can go to Boston and look at the Boston Harbor. When we study desert ecosystems, we could go to the desert. In fact, for me, I don't want to go RVing to get away from it all. I want to go RVing to get TO it all.
Given the amount of money to be made by both sides of the Global Warming debate, as well as the huge amount of obviously and verifiably inaccurate information spewed by both sides of the Global warming debate, I don't think that it is the subject you really want to use as a way to mock your opponents.
If a kid drops dead in health class, he is either definitely NOT otherwise healthy, or there is some serious mistreatment going on.
I agree that good laws are good and bad laws are bad. I will continue to vote for good laws and against bad laws, but that doesn't change the fact that the laws are in effect today. You also show why the laws cannot be fixed. Your suggestion doesn't fix the problem. It just makes the problem take a little longer to show it's flaw. If there is 100% enforcement, and thus everyone is obeying the law, and the speed limit is set to 100 mph, then at the next audit, it would be required to change to 99mph. each time the audit was done, the speed would go down. By the time the speed was 50 mph, the speed would be dropping by 2 mph each audit. Eventually, we would be back to all cars (and bicycles) moving on the road would be in violation of the law.
Also, if 1% of the people are going over the speed limit, then they are not the worst offenders. They are the only offenders.
So, I am not disagreeing that the laws need to be fixed. I am not disagreeing that non-enforcement is a bad thing. I am saying that 100% enforcement of a law that is literally impossible for the public to obey is even worse that the very bad situation we have now.
Wow, you put "you are wrong" in bold cap italics. That must make you right.
I expect a professional teacher to be able to teach other people how to do something that they already know how to do. I also expect that if she is incapable of getting other people who are in the profession of teaching to be motivated to learn, then she clearly does not have the skills to get people motivated to learn, and is thus incompetent.
You can yell all you want, but you are the one that said she could not teach a subject matter that she had already become familiar with. You are the one who said that her and her colleges could not get a piece of consumer equipment to work without bringing in someone else to figure it out for them. You are the one that said it was even a problem for your sister to figure out how to open a cardboard box.
Your yelling is proving my point that our education system is doomed. First you give the description of an incompetent teacher, then you get pissed when someone uses the word that fits your description. Your use of the two untouchable words "Teacher" and "Tech" do not absolve you of being exactly the kind of person that has made our public education a joke.
I don't know about other states, but in CA, when they do an audit of a streets speed limit, they set the speed limit to something like 80% of the average speed. If the law was strictly enforced the way that only inanimate objects can, it would be illegal to drive in CA. And for you bike riders who say 'Good', the speed limits apply to bicycles too.
She's not a tech teacher. As I stated elsewhere in this thread, she teaches English and Math, to 4th graders.
Who cares if she is a 'tech' teacher or not. A competent teacher can teach any material that they know. Your statements say that your sister is incompetent as a teacher.
That is completely different than teaching other people (who, to be honest, don't want to bother with it) things like this.
No, it is not. It is dramatically simpler than math, and if you think that 4th graders want to be bothered with learning Math and English, you are at the very least nieve. This statement reinforces your claims that your sister is incompetent.
Also, as I stated elsewhere, these things were made needlessly "interesting" to get working, because of incompetence on the manufacturer's part.
Doesn't matter. Your sister wasn't the first person to install one of these. There was plenty of information available to her if she was competent in the field of learning. Then after she knew how to install it, the fact that she had serious difficulty passing the information she already had on to others says that both she and the other teachers were incompetent in the field of education. They are perfect examples of the old saying "Those that can't do, teach".
Your posts are a very good example of why our education system cannot be fixed. Our teachers are incompetent at the core skills needed to properly do their jobs, they don't care to be competent, and the public at large is in denial about it.
I had an argument (debate?) with my wife and the cashier about Toys R Us collecting data for tracking reasons. It didn't last long, because when they started telling me I was paranoid, I took one step to the left and pointed to the sign that was posted on the wall of the checkout line that specifically said they were collecting the data for the purpose of tracking personal purchases to better server their customers.
I calculated the payback of my last round of upgrades (two years ago) since the new systems used noticeably less power than the old systems, as well as suspend working on the new systems. My computer: 6 months to recoup the entire cost in electricity bill savings.
My wife's computer: 3 months to recoup the entire cost in electricity bill savings.
My son's computer: 4 months to recoup the entire cost in electricity bill savings.
I agree and disagree. Not everyone needs typing for post high school employment, but it is more a more common need than most, maybe any, other high school course offered.
Touch typing can certainly be enriching. Maybe as much as any other course. Once you have learned to touch type, you can stop thinking about how to record your words, and just do it. It encourages, review and editing of your own work. It allows the creative to flow without having to worry about the mechanics. How many musicians have you heard of that are creative when they don't 'touch type' their instruments. No doubt you would find the same thing with painters, and sculptors.
That being said, you are right. I see people get by without being able to do what I would consider basic math. People who struggle with multiplication and division. They generally do just fine. Many do just fine without being able to construct a proper sentence. Certainly they can do just fine without being able to type. Yes, it may limit their job choices, but the idea that anyone will be able to do any job is absurd. Society is by it's very nature about specialization. This seems to have been forgotten in education. Not everyone is going to leave school and have every single career path still in front of them, and that is OK.
I would also agree with you that due to the amount of typing in modern leisure activities, it is almost hard to make it to 18 without learning to type. Of course the same can be said for reading. At a recent homeschool conference, I sat in on a round table with other unschoolers. The more radical unschooling parents didn't teach their kids to read. Not one of them had a child over the age of about 8 that didn't learn to read on their own. Now, I am not a radical unschooler, so if my son had not learned to read by 3, I would have been putting real effort into teaching him to read my 5 or 6, but at the end of the day, when the kids needed a skill, they just learned it. Don't take this as saying typing is as important as reading, but just like a child that does not read until 8 or 9 is going to end up behind in many other subjects, the same can be said for typing. The question still remains though... Does it matter?
So, what your saying is that someone who's profession is the transfer of knowledge and how to learn, is lucky to have figured out how to do something new, and the rest of her peers in the same profession are simply incompetent.
These devices are just not that complicated. If a teacher cannot learn how to hook it up with a trivial amount of effort, then perhaps that person shouldn't be a teacher. It's not like classrooms are getting major tech upgrades every other week.
If I was your sister, your comment that "she teaches all the other teachers as best she can" would either shame me for being incompetent, or piss me off for having you spread false rumors about me.
That is a common BS excuse. If I as an individual own a business, and I get put in jail, the same thing will happen. Yes, to fewer people, but there will still be employees and customers that will be affected. Heck, if a housewife with a couple of kids gets thrown in jail, you are punishing more people than just the criminal. What you are advocating is fitting the punishment to the persons station in society. Caste systems are bad. Particularly for the people who are of a lower caste. You are advocating that real live humans are the untouchables of your caste system, and that this is a good thing.
Insightful. Don't you know, there are no conspiracies. All of the laws against conspiracy to commit crimes are just there to make you think that there are conspiracies. When you think there are conspiracies, you are just being duped by "them". When you think that sometimes crimes (or non-criminal acts) are discussed ahead of time by more one person, you are just falling for their plan. After all, that just what "they" want you to think.
Because the author and apparently the majority of Slashdot readers are not as well educated as they think they are. If I write an article about a clothing design I heard about, where I tie knots in white t-shirts, and call the article, 'Dye, Screen Printing, and now "Tie-Dying"', neither putting the words "Tie-Dying" in quotes, nor the fact that I somehow was unaware of the 60's/70's makes Tie-Dying new.
The term was coined in the late 70's. Here is a link to a book that are over a decade old that have the term, right in the title...
1998: http://www.amazon.com/Unschooling-Handbook-Whole-Childs-Classroom/dp/0761512764/ref=pd_sim_b_6
In case you need a "For Dummies Book"
2001: http://www.amazon.com/Homeschooling-Dummies-Jennifer-Kaufeld/dp/0764508881/ref=sr_1_36?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1252178339&sr=1-36
And for older references just Google John Holt.
Hehe... That's kind of what my son got for his second birthday. About a week after his second birthday, I formatted his hard drive and gave him Windows and Ubuntu CDs. It only took him a couple of hours before he back to playing Klotski on it..
So, your saying that you can pick out the genetically superior people by finding out which ones were homeschooled? Hmmm... I guess that is one theory.
itself not a word, so you're off to a bad start right there)
Just because you don't know the definition of a word does not mean it isn't a word. When a term has been in regular usage for over 30 years it is a word. It is ideas like yours that make this discussion so ironic.
The irony is thick. Talking about the poor education offered by a method that you are obviously ignorant of. Don't feel bad. Public education is all about making definitive decisions based on wildly inaccurate sound bites, so your part of the majority. That makes you a "winner".
Except it is child A that learned how a TV worked because when his quit, he walked over to his computer and looked up the schematics, since that is the kind of thing that unschoolers do. He then used his volt meter to find that it was a $0.20 fuse that blew. He replaced it, and finished watching his cartoons in his pajamas. That or he just looked at the TV and thought, "I wonder how that works" and thus spent the day getting his education on how TVs work.
Child B on the other hand went to Best Buy to bust buy with his parents where they charged a new $2000 TV on their already maxed out credit card because TVs are magic boxes that kill you if you open them.
"unless you have a battery backup for the DRAM"
You say that like it is not a given....
Unschooling is nothing new. It has been around and extremely popular amongst homeschooling for decades. What is new is that the general public is starting to come to terms with the fact that home school kids, on average, get dramatically better educations than those in the public school system. So, now all of those parents who never thought for themselves about how to educate their kids are joining in on the hip "new" craze of homeschooling. The problem is that the public school system is a business. A business that makes it's money based on the number of enrolled students. So, what they have done is pushed to convince these trendy homeschooling that homeschooling means enrolling your child in a public school, doing all of the same failed curriculum that the public school does, but do it in your home.
While this is certainly one way to homeschool your child, it isn't the only way, nor is it necessarily the best way. Some unschooling milestones for my child have been, learning to read just before turning 3, building his first solo electronics project at 3 (a helicopter launcher), learning to write at 4, being competent to use a PC at 1, doing his first OS install at 2, doing addition at 3, doing multiplication at 4, doing division at 5, being able to explain the civil war and what it's root causes were at 5, understanding the make up of the solar system at 3, etc. etc. etc.
There is no way that sitting at a desk, whether in a room with 20 other kids, or in your own home, you are going to be able to understand something like the Civil War as well as you will if you go out into a field with 200 people who are doing their very best to simulate actual battles. Walking up to a few cannons to see what they actually look like, as well as watching them actually fired is just better for an education than reading about it in a book.
The same can be said for vocabulary. Reading lists of words of of a weekly worksheet is just not going to build a vocabulary as well or as quickly as being exposed to large numbers of words in their proper context.
The difference between unschooling and goofing off pretty much boils down to whether you ask where, when, what, why, and how about the things you see in life. The concern that a parent must know huge sums of knowledge to properly educate their children is a red herring. To properly teach a subject, you only need to be about one level above the student. If your education does not allow you to teach at a 6th grade level, perhaps one should ask themselves why they don't even have a 7th grade education.
I actually support public education, because in my immense arrogance, I believe that not every parent is going to give their child the kind of quality education that I give mine. Given that there are some truly stupid people in the world, public education creates a chance to stop a downward spiral of ignorance. Public education isn't inherently a problem. It has just become a beast that has gotten out of control with an insatiable thirst for money and no accountability for producing results.
The meat can convert plants that human cannot eat into food that we can. a few bails of hay will do better at keeping meat fresh than it will at keeping a human alive and healthy.