An "intelligent" liberal arts graduate, a linguist, an anthropologist, or social psychologist will be able to tell you what they mean when they use a word, even if it is not in line with what you will find in a dictionary. You don't seem to be able to do that, so no, this is not that I am trapped by that "geeky" "a word means what it says in the dictionary, no more and no less, gosh darn it!" mindset. You just seem to be trapped by that wannabe intellectual mindset of "if I say something stupid, I can just say that there really is no definition for the words I use" mindset. I only gave you a link to the definition of 'crime' because you made a statement about crime that was clearly not true, and then could not formulate a coherent definition of what YOU meant by the word.
You see, an "intelligent" liberal arts graduate, a linguist, an anthropologist, or social psychologist will tell you that noises produced by a person do not become language until there is an agreed upon meaning to them. That means that it is perfectly acceptable for "bad" to be defined as "good" if both the speaker and the listener agree that that is what it means. This also means that when you say that a word you have used, has no definition, then you are abdicating your claim that you are speaking a language when using that word. You place yourself as one of those million monkeys in front of a typewriter who just happened to randomly pound out a set of characters that look like a sentence.
So, you are just using words like "crime" that you really don't understand the definition of. That's cool, you don't have to try to fake it. It is just an opportunity for you to widen your vocabulary.
I would accept either, but you are right that they should be distinguished between. If we go with the version of "crime" that you suggest, then I would not say that most people have committed them, but then you have to look at all of the CEOs and other corporate types that make huge amounts of money without ever needing to fear the consequences on a regular basis.
You have that wrong. It's not that the people with IQs over 90 figure out that crime does not pay. They are just better at picking which crimes they can commit without going to jail. I have yet to meet an adult that has not committed some kind of crime and gotten away with it.
I don't understand this 'it's their network so they can do whatever they want with my data' attitude that seems to be very common. If you get in a cab, the cab driver doesn't have the right to do whatever they want to your body just because they own the cab. The data being sent is not Comcasts. The data belongs to the people sending and receiving the data. Comcast does not have the right to do whatever they want to MY data. When someone breaks something that you own, you have legal recourse.
That's one of the problems with this mythical thing called 'Intellectual Property'. It only seems to exist when a corporation is making money off of it. When it is a Comcast user's IP that Comcast is damaging, suddenly the 'IP' doesn't exist anymore, and all that matters is that the network is Comcast's.
You sound like you read the reports, and I am not prepared to start yet another huge project for myself by deciding to do in depth research, so I'll just ask...
Did any of these studies track the same individuals by economic class. I could definitely see a correlation between wealth and lead exposure, and could could also see there being an identical correlation between wealth and crime. If that is the case, it could very well mean that the connection isn't lead to crime, but wealth to crime.
And, if you are feeling the urge to accuse me of being an evil lead pusher, a shill for the lead industry, or a lead denier. Please understand that I do fully believe that lead exposure is a bad thing, and can have all sorts of ill effects. I just don't want to accept research as valid just because it happens to agree with what I already believe.
Not to mention that they eat disks for breakfast. I don't know if MS has fixed the problem with the 360 damaging disks or if the units completely failing has just overshadow the disk destroying defect. What I do know is that GameFly claims to be able to identify when disks are destroyed by the Xbox360.
Putting previously purchased software that looks new back on the shelf is no different than a clothing store putting a returned pair of pants back on the shelf. Or for that matter, a pair of pants that was taken into a changing room and tried on. There is obviously a gray area in retail concerning what is new and what is used.
As long as everyone remembers that my shade of gray is better than their shade of gray, everything will be ok though.
No, the discussion went right where you wanted it. To the 'lets not even discuss punishing the royal elite the way we do the average citizen'. The argument that it is ok to bring finacial ruin upon real people is ok, but doing the same to a corporation bad, is bizarre at best.
If a corporation is shut down for a year, they do not automatically loose their charter. Their assets are not seized other than by creditors who they have not paid. This is the EXACT same situation that a human is put into when they are jailed. When they get out of jail, they try to salvage what they can from what is left after being locked up for a year with no income. Your statement that it is 'death' is simply wrong, and an attempt to rationalize why we should have a caste system.
I wasn't calling BS on the cheating. I was calling BS on the fact that the individual had to play a bunch of poker, winning unrealistic hands to get other players to believe that he was cheating.
I would guess that your ISP is screwing with your lines. The only time I have any audio problems with my line is when I am doing a massive download that is consuming all of my bandwidth. I have used fax machines on my Vonage line, which is basically a modem, and hand no problem, but if you are getting echoing, then it is not a surprise that the modem doesn't work.
It sounds like your ISP is a cable company with a competing service, so I wouldn't be surprised if they were intentionally screwing with your data. One way to find out is to take your Vonage box over to a friends house that is with a different ISP, and see if the problem goes away.
I'm going to have to call BS. The cheater did not have to play more than one hand for the other players to know beyond a shadow of a doubt that he was cheating. I assume that these games have some kind of chat functionality, yes? If so, he could have just typed, "Nice pair of Aces you have there."
If they don't have a chat function, please disregard this post.
You seem to be trolling, as I know that you already read the answer to that. You replied to the post that contained:
"Yes, those that work for the corporation would be hurt, just like the people who work for me. (if I were wealthy enough to hire people to do my bidding)"
Either the law applies to entities that employ other entities or it does not. How many employees do you suggest an entity needs before locking them up is no longer a solution? The current situation where some legally recognized entities in the US can be imprisoned, and others cannot is a serious problem. For all intents and purposes it makes corporations royalty that are above the law.
I draw my line somewhere at the bottom of the primate area. It is a fuzzy line, but it is there somewhere. What concerns me more is the number of people that can't tell the difference between a dog and a human.
Then you quit your job and get one that won't require you to commit a crime. This whole idea that just because these CEOs are stinking rich and making tons of money, they shouldn't have to obey the law is ridiculous.
That is simply incorrect.
Corporations live off the recognition of the government. If the government revokes their charter, then they are dead. If the government recognizes them as a Corporation, then it lives on. Cutting off of it's revenue could simply make it destitute. The same as cutting off the ability of a real person to make money for six months could make them destitute. So, that is no excuse for the government to give one entity preferential treatment under the law over another.
Hell, many companies run in the red for years. That is certainly not the same as cutting off a real persons food supply for years.
Or, imprison the corporation itself. If I break the law, they lock me up, and I cannot do business with the rest of society. Do the same to the corporations. Send the sheriff out to lock the company doors, and prevent them from doing business for 6 months, a year, or whatever sentence they would give me.
Yes, it would be devistating to the corporation, just as devistating as it would be to me if I were locked up for a year.
Yes, those that work for the corporation would be hurt, just like the people who work for me. (if I were wealthy enough to hire people to do my bidding)
Yes, it would hurt the economy if all, or even a significant portion of corporations got shut down, just as it would hurt the economy if all, or even a significant portion of people were imprisioned.
You can bet that the corporations would get their act together right quick if the penalty for breaking the law was the same as for a real person.
I would say that one of the big problems we have is that corporations are considered to be 'people' when it is convenient, and not 'people' when that suits the needs of those in making money off of them.
I just checked. Lotus Notes does support MP3s. I don't know if they use the codec from the OS or if they implement their own, but when you say to view the file, it opens a new tab and plays the MP3.
Why you would thank that supporting file types would mean that you should not use an application is baffling.
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An "intelligent" liberal arts graduate, a linguist, an anthropologist, or social psychologist will be able to tell you what they mean when they use a word, even if it is not in line with what you will find in a dictionary. You don't seem to be able to do that, so no, this is not that I am trapped by that "geeky" "a word means what it says in the dictionary, no more and no less, gosh darn it!" mindset. You just seem to be trapped by that wannabe intellectual mindset of "if I say something stupid, I can just say that there really is no definition for the words I use" mindset. I only gave you a link to the definition of 'crime' because you made a statement about crime that was clearly not true, and then could not formulate a coherent definition of what YOU meant by the word.
You see, an "intelligent" liberal arts graduate, a linguist, an anthropologist, or social psychologist will tell you that noises produced by a person do not become language until there is an agreed upon meaning to them. That means that it is perfectly acceptable for "bad" to be defined as "good" if both the speaker and the listener agree that that is what it means. This also means that when you say that a word you have used, has no definition, then you are abdicating your claim that you are speaking a language when using that word. You place yourself as one of those million monkeys in front of a typewriter who just happened to randomly pound out a set of characters that look like a sentence.
So, you are just using words like "crime" that you really don't understand the definition of. That's cool, you don't have to try to fake it. It is just an opportunity for you to widen your vocabulary.
Here you go: Crime
So, your saying that crime doesn't pay because if it did, it wouldn't be a crime. I think you have a 'distinctive' definition of the word crime.
Well, Of course crime doesn't pay if your going to claim that crime doesn't exist.
I would accept either, but you are right that they should be distinguished between. If we go with the version of "crime" that you suggest, then I would not say that most people have committed them, but then you have to look at all of the CEOs and other corporate types that make huge amounts of money without ever needing to fear the consequences on a regular basis.
Good point.
You have that wrong. It's not that the people with IQs over 90 figure out that crime does not pay. They are just better at picking which crimes they can commit without going to jail. I have yet to meet an adult that has not committed some kind of crime and gotten away with it.
I don't understand this 'it's their network so they can do whatever they want with my data' attitude that seems to be very common. If you get in a cab, the cab driver doesn't have the right to do whatever they want to your body just because they own the cab. The data being sent is not Comcasts. The data belongs to the people sending and receiving the data. Comcast does not have the right to do whatever they want to MY data. When someone breaks something that you own, you have legal recourse.
That's one of the problems with this mythical thing called 'Intellectual Property'. It only seems to exist when a corporation is making money off of it. When it is a Comcast user's IP that Comcast is damaging, suddenly the 'IP' doesn't exist anymore, and all that matters is that the network is Comcast's.
You sound like you read the reports, and I am not prepared to start yet another huge project for myself by deciding to do in depth research, so I'll just ask...
Did any of these studies track the same individuals by economic class. I could definitely see a correlation between wealth and lead exposure, and could could also see there being an identical correlation between wealth and crime. If that is the case, it could very well mean that the connection isn't lead to crime, but wealth to crime.
And, if you are feeling the urge to accuse me of being an evil lead pusher, a shill for the lead industry, or a lead denier. Please understand that I do fully believe that lead exposure is a bad thing, and can have all sorts of ill effects. I just don't want to accept research as valid just because it happens to agree with what I already believe.
Not to mention that they eat disks for breakfast. I don't know if MS has fixed the problem with the 360 damaging disks or if the units completely failing has just overshadow the disk destroying defect. What I do know is that GameFly claims to be able to identify when disks are destroyed by the Xbox360.
Putting previously purchased software that looks new back on the shelf is no different than a clothing store putting a returned pair of pants back on the shelf. Or for that matter, a pair of pants that was taken into a changing room and tried on. There is obviously a gray area in retail concerning what is new and what is used.
As long as everyone remembers that my shade of gray is better than their shade of gray, everything will be ok though.
No, the discussion went right where you wanted it. To the 'lets not even discuss punishing the royal elite the way we do the average citizen'. The argument that it is ok to bring finacial ruin upon real people is ok, but doing the same to a corporation bad, is bizarre at best.
If a corporation is shut down for a year, they do not automatically loose their charter. Their assets are not seized other than by creditors who they have not paid. This is the EXACT same situation that a human is put into when they are jailed. When they get out of jail, they try to salvage what they can from what is left after being locked up for a year with no income. Your statement that it is 'death' is simply wrong, and an attempt to rationalize why we should have a caste system.
I wasn't calling BS on the cheating. I was calling BS on the fact that the individual had to play a bunch of poker, winning unrealistic hands to get other players to believe that he was cheating.
I would guess that your ISP is screwing with your lines. The only time I have any audio problems with my line is when I am doing a massive download that is consuming all of my bandwidth. I have used fax machines on my Vonage line, which is basically a modem, and hand no problem, but if you are getting echoing, then it is not a surprise that the modem doesn't work.
It sounds like your ISP is a cable company with a competing service, so I wouldn't be surprised if they were intentionally screwing with your data. One way to find out is to take your Vonage box over to a friends house that is with a different ISP, and see if the problem goes away.
I'm going to have to call BS. The cheater did not have to play more than one hand for the other players to know beyond a shadow of a doubt that he was cheating. I assume that these games have some kind of chat functionality, yes? If so, he could have just typed, "Nice pair of Aces you have there."
If they don't have a chat function, please disregard this post.
As a Vonage Customer, I will continue to use their superior service, even if the price does have to increase.
You seem to be trolling, as I know that you already read the answer to that. You replied to the post that contained:
"Yes, those that work for the corporation would be hurt, just like the people who work for me. (if I were wealthy enough to hire people to do my bidding)"
Either the law applies to entities that employ other entities or it does not. How many employees do you suggest an entity needs before locking them up is no longer a solution? The current situation where some legally recognized entities in the US can be imprisoned, and others cannot is a serious problem. For all intents and purposes it makes corporations royalty that are above the law.
I draw my line somewhere at the bottom of the primate area. It is a fuzzy line, but it is there somewhere. What concerns me more is the number of people that can't tell the difference between a dog and a human.
You can get them at Uline and come in quantities of 200 for $24.
Then you quit your job and get one that won't require you to commit a crime. This whole idea that just because these CEOs are stinking rich and making tons of money, they shouldn't have to obey the law is ridiculous.
And that's why you need insurance from Old Glory
"But can you show me a single sensible application of MP3 support in a mail program?"
Unified Messaging.
That is simply incorrect. Corporations live off the recognition of the government. If the government revokes their charter, then they are dead. If the government recognizes them as a Corporation, then it lives on. Cutting off of it's revenue could simply make it destitute. The same as cutting off the ability of a real person to make money for six months could make them destitute. So, that is no excuse for the government to give one entity preferential treatment under the law over another. Hell, many companies run in the red for years. That is certainly not the same as cutting off a real persons food supply for years.
Or, imprison the corporation itself. If I break the law, they lock me up, and I cannot do business with the rest of society. Do the same to the corporations. Send the sheriff out to lock the company doors, and prevent them from doing business for 6 months, a year, or whatever sentence they would give me.
Yes, it would be devistating to the corporation, just as devistating as it would be to me if I were locked up for a year.
Yes, those that work for the corporation would be hurt, just like the people who work for me. (if I were wealthy enough to hire people to do my bidding)
Yes, it would hurt the economy if all, or even a significant portion of corporations got shut down, just as it would hurt the economy if all, or even a significant portion of people were imprisioned.
You can bet that the corporations would get their act together right quick if the penalty for breaking the law was the same as for a real person.
I would say that one of the big problems we have is that corporations are considered to be 'people' when it is convenient, and not 'people' when that suits the needs of those in making money off of them.
I just checked. Lotus Notes does support MP3s. I don't know if they use the codec from the OS or if they implement their own, but when you say to view the file, it opens a new tab and plays the MP3.
Why you would thank that supporting file types would mean that you should not use an application is baffling.