So, an American administration is totally responsible for the American economy. Last we heard, the business cycle mattered. And the vaunted American people fucked themselves with buying houses they couldn't afford, flipping houses, taking equity out of their houses to gamble on the stock markets and whatever else what shiny. The Bush administration was complicit, as was Wall Street, as was the insurance industry, as were the builders, and the realtors, and the local zoning officials.
In the mean time, industry replaced workers with machines, shipped entire portions of itself overseas, and generally failed to innovate.
But somehow the Obama administration is entirely responsible for dragging the U.S. oxcart out of the ditch. That's some quality economics you have going there, maybe you could tell them how to fix it all. I'm sure they'd listen to you.
Regardless of whether you believe climate change is caused by man's activities, it is undeniable that man has pumped a lot of CO2 into the atmosphere. The direct result of this, also not contested, is that the oceans are acidifying. The result of that is lost of species at the base of the food chain. You do recall the food chain, yes? And that fucking it up at its base would result in fucking it up all the way up the chain, hence the term, food chain.
I think you are confusing mathematics with physics. Just because your mathematics describes part or even the entire universe (or multiverse if you need to go there...coffee's bad though), this would not imply the universe (or multiverse even with the bad coffee) IS the mathematics.
You also need an independent press, and you need government regulatory agencies to add in the cost that capitalism and democracy miss such as clean air and water.
Which is very comforting to punters who must trust a company with their credentials in order to do business with it.
One solution to mitigate risk is insurance. Companies should have to pay for security insurance. They cannot prevent every break in, but insurance companies have ways of evaluating an pricing risk. Customers would then at least have a shot at being made whole again.
You mean it will spread out until Billy Joe Bob takes it apart and "improves" it so that it becomes more like a light saber ready to blind you just as soon as you manage to tick Billy Joe Bob off. This cannot end well.
I think it is a mistake to think of Creationists as debating a world view that cannot hold up. That isn't what they are doing. What they are doing is proving to G-d they belong in Heaven when they die, the means, i.e., debating, are only there for the ends. They don't need to care what you say, just as long as they can be seen by Him as parroting the correct stuff.
Actually, it is quite efficient of them since that way they need not think for themselves. That issue is as old as the hills and the Greeks wrestled with it mightily.
In general, I think Physics would be very much diminished if the theorists could not conjure up mathematical spaces and structures that might have some physical bearing. It tells physicists where to look if not necessarily what to look for. In that sense, I think it is perfectly okay to have "theories" of this sort.
The problem with creationism is that it isn't a theory of this sort. It does not tell scientists where to look unless they expect scientists to go about ferreting for G-d.
In Islam, Allah is so ineffable, He doesn't communicate directly with humans. The escape clause (there's always one of those) is he gets to use angels. The Jewish G-d is one weird dude, smiting this, smoting that, and not real pleasant towards women. Selling one's daughters He's okay with...unless the Bible writers got that one wrong, in which case the Bible would be...hmm....what's the word I'm looking for...what's the word....
In the New Testament, Jesus claimed he'd be a'coming back 'round the mountain before the crowd hearing his words passed away. He's a bit late which would make him...damn, what's the word for that....
So this G-d fella is a bit hard to pin down, a bit weird when you do, and not entirely reliable. My guess is that scientists, were they to meet G-d, would find the issues surrounding Him insurmountable for use in Science.
Yep, all the U.S. needs to do is rely on its enemies being stupid enough to leak the information to the interwebs in videos. All secret information is known to be kept in video format for use by academics interested in non-proliferation.
Ya, I tend to agree, it will make the EPA decisions more bulletproof in the end, presuming the GOP doesn't game the system and have their cronies claim they cannot reproduce the data. Will tests failing to produce also be public?
Presuming the GOP cannot find a way to game the system, I think it will make the GOP rue the day that they forced this though, although I doubt it will pass muster in the Senate.
And yes, the GOP is a bunch of science-hating alleged legislators. The problem they have is that it is difficult spin science. Hence the term "alleged legislators". When the GOP became mostly about spin, they lost any objective analysis for governing. Now, we get to hear their talking points first, and their support for their talking points last and it usually doesn't support their talking points.
" We have work to do on four big areas: feature parity (especially for commenting); the overall UI, especially in terms of information density and headline scanning; plain old bugs; and, lastly, the need for a better framework for communicating about the How and the Why of this process. "
What is it about feature parity is it that you do not get? At least give them credit for trying. There is another way for Slashdot to die, it could die through doing the same old same old for the same old visitors.
And for a group of people who claim to be the voice of the industry in the trenches, a lot of carping seems to ignore plain business sense. If this site doesn't hold its own in a marketplace, it will go away just like every other product that fails to capture a decent return. You might not like putting it in those terms but you know it's true. Sites rarely exist for the mere enjoyment of its visitors. In the end, someone has to pay for it. The Slashdot crowd is the same crowd that will crucify government waste along the lines of, there's too few served to justify the expense.
Dice already said they need to redesign the beta. What more do you want from them, blood? So lay off with the immature "Waaaahhh...they aren't doing what I want them to."
Well, unless you believe the laws of physics have changed, then I imagine the floodwaters of Noah's time do just about what the flood waters currently do.
So, this G-d fellow is supposed to be even sneakier by tweaking the laws of physics? Wow, is there nothing He won't do? Because if there is, then you have bigger problems than a few buried dino bones.
Let's consider oil, it takes millions of years to produce that...coal as well. To do it, you must have it buried for a long time under a fair amount of pressure, enough so that 6 thousand years won't do it in the places we find it. Not only that, "More than 4000 years ago, according to Herodotus and Diodorus Siculus, asphalt was used in the construction of the walls and towers of Babylon;...". So you now have only about 2000 years to produce the oil and coal.
So this G-d guy not only buried the fossils, he buried the oil and coal. Man, what a weird Dude.
It can take a relatively short time to fossilize a bone. However, we have geological tests that can tell us the true age. And we have many different kinds of tests, they generally agree. However, fossils are embedded in rock that we know takes 10s of thousands if not millions of years to form. So, the fossils didn't get there except by either (a) dying inconveniently longer than 6 thousand years, or (b) this G-d Guy is pulling another fast one. A creationist must conclude he's a sneaky god.
That doesn't really type check. One property of facts deemed necessary is that they are true. You wouldn't claim the concept of an orange to be true would you? Why would you claim a concept like Emotion to be true. You might say someone truly felt a particular emotion. You might claim emotions exist, but emotions here is treated extensionally, like a set. That's akin to saying something like 1 + 1 = 2 in base 10 arithmetic.
The reason I'm being pedantic is that creationists do tend to start with things that hardly anyone can deny simply because they are true, but then start bobbing and weaving attempting an inductive reasoning argument claiming you accepted the basis. I've been down this road with them before, they are devious and not to be trusted.
I think a better argument is to merely accept what the creationists believe and then follow that to the logical conclusions.
A creationist must believe that G-d buried a lot of fossilized bones since science tells us that. And G-d created all the bridging fossils, so we got fooled by G-d. For those non-young Earth creationists, G-d has allowed the rest of the Universe and our solar system in particular to take periodic pot shots at us. What's He trying to do us, wipe us out? That's just the solar system, what about massive volcanoes that are also up to the job. This is some weird G-d, sets us up for success and then via the random luck of the draw, we get to go splat.
Oh, but Jesus says he'll come back to save us. Well, He also said the generation he was talking to would not pass away before He returned. We're still waiting. So did Jesus lie? Could He have been mistaken?
And as for how ethical G-d is, if a good Buddhist grows up never being exposed or even hearing of Christianity, is s/he damned to limbo or worse? How does that get squared with a loving G-d? Ah, but G-d has a plan...which merely involves people being in the wrong place at the wrong time and getting whacked through no fault of their own, like the little 3 year old in Italy who was nailed in mob hit on his family, he was just there so they decided to do him too.
While I agree with your sentiment, I do not think it is possible to have a logical argument with creationists. There does seem to be a trend among the religious conservatives or mere conservatives to simply deny that any evidence contradicting their predetermined solution is factual. Most people in general find it hard to walk back their beliefs, so it isn't a property entirely enjoyed by conservatives, it is just more noticeable with that crowd.
From Nobis Web site (sounds dodgy just from the language):
"Nobis Technology Group, LLC is the parent holding company to roughly a dozen specialized companies and a broad spectrum of websites. We are privately-held, employee-owned, and have been involved in a number of very lucrative Internet services companies of many names since 2002."
I don't trust NoScript to let them further out of the box for their alleged web site to tell me more.
I was hoping to see the Greek guy with the electric hair down there looking for aliens. One of these days he'll get abducted and his dreams will come true, kind of. The aliens will alter his memory and from then on he'll claim Jimmy Hoffa and Elvis kidnapped him.
Sure, let's only teach kiddies what they'll actually use. So...how to implement this...how, how, how? I have it, we'll test them at 5 years old. That will tell us their aptitude for different stuff then we only need teach them that. What you say? Maybe their aptitude changes with time? Okay, we'll test them again at 10 and at 15. Each time, we'll only teach them what the tests indicate. Of course, if Johnny or Sally becomes interested in physical science at 16, then s/he will be SOL because we didn't teach them the math we were sure they weren't going to use. Oh, I see, we can then start teaching them at 17...except, those formative years for math and logic are critical, so I guess they are SOL anyhow.
I see you were only taught what you'd use, that must be why you stopped your education at 5.
Ah, so they attempted to prevent you from turning into the unidimensional being you've become, shame on them. What do people do for fun in your dimension?
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So, an American administration is totally responsible for the American economy. Last we heard, the business cycle mattered. And the vaunted American people fucked themselves with buying houses they couldn't afford, flipping houses, taking equity out of their houses to gamble on the stock markets and whatever else what shiny. The Bush administration was complicit, as was Wall Street, as was the insurance industry, as were the builders, and the realtors, and the local zoning officials.
In the mean time, industry replaced workers with machines, shipped entire portions of itself overseas, and generally failed to innovate.
But somehow the Obama administration is entirely responsible for dragging the U.S. oxcart out of the ditch. That's some quality economics you have going there, maybe you could tell them how to fix it all. I'm sure they'd listen to you.
Regardless of whether you believe climate change is caused by man's activities, it is undeniable that man has pumped a lot of CO2 into the atmosphere. The direct result of this, also not contested, is that the oceans are acidifying. The result of that is lost of species at the base of the food chain. You do recall the food chain, yes? And that fucking it up at its base would result in fucking it up all the way up the chain, hence the term, food chain.
I think you are confusing mathematics with physics. Just because your mathematics describes part or even the entire universe (or multiverse if you need to go there...coffee's bad though), this would not imply the universe (or multiverse even with the bad coffee) IS the mathematics.
You also need an independent press, and you need government regulatory agencies to add in the cost that capitalism and democracy miss such as clean air and water.
Which is very comforting to punters who must trust a company with their credentials in order to do business with it.
One solution to mitigate risk is insurance. Companies should have to pay for security insurance. They cannot prevent every break in, but insurance companies have ways of evaluating an pricing risk. Customers would then at least have a shot at being made whole again.
The Chinese problem might be due to air pollution in the cities, they probably forget when out in the countryside.
You mean it will spread out until Billy Joe Bob takes it apart and "improves" it so that it becomes more like a light saber ready to blind you just as soon as you manage to tick Billy Joe Bob off. This cannot end well.
Okay, okay, settle down. They both did it to outfox the other.
I think it is a mistake to think of Creationists as debating a world view that cannot hold up. That isn't what they are doing. What they are doing is proving to G-d they belong in Heaven when they die, the means, i.e., debating, are only there for the ends. They don't need to care what you say, just as long as they can be seen by Him as parroting the correct stuff.
Actually, it is quite efficient of them since that way they need not think for themselves. That issue is as old as the hills and the Greeks wrestled with it mightily.
In general, I think Physics would be very much diminished if the theorists could not conjure up mathematical spaces and structures that might have some physical bearing. It tells physicists where to look if not necessarily what to look for. In that sense, I think it is perfectly okay to have "theories" of this sort.
The problem with creationism is that it isn't a theory of this sort. It does not tell scientists where to look unless they expect scientists to go about ferreting for G-d.
In Islam, Allah is so ineffable, He doesn't communicate directly with humans. The escape clause (there's always one of those) is he gets to use angels. The Jewish G-d is one weird dude, smiting this, smoting that, and not real pleasant towards women. Selling one's daughters He's okay with...unless the Bible writers got that one wrong, in which case the Bible would be...hmm....what's the word I'm looking for...what's the word....
In the New Testament, Jesus claimed he'd be a'coming back 'round the mountain before the crowd hearing his words passed away. He's a bit late which would make him...damn, what's the word for that....
So this G-d fella is a bit hard to pin down, a bit weird when you do, and not entirely reliable. My guess is that scientists, were they to meet G-d, would find the issues surrounding Him insurmountable for use in Science.
Yep, all the U.S. needs to do is rely on its enemies being stupid enough to leak the information to the interwebs in videos. All secret information is known to be kept in video format for use by academics interested in non-proliferation.
Ya, I tend to agree, it will make the EPA decisions more bulletproof in the end, presuming the GOP doesn't game the system and have their cronies claim they cannot reproduce the data. Will tests failing to produce also be public?
Presuming the GOP cannot find a way to game the system, I think it will make the GOP rue the day that they forced this though, although I doubt it will pass muster in the Senate.
And yes, the GOP is a bunch of science-hating alleged legislators. The problem they have is that it is difficult spin science. Hence the term "alleged legislators". When the GOP became mostly about spin, they lost any objective analysis for governing. Now, we get to hear their talking points first, and their support for their talking points last and it usually doesn't support their talking points.
The only people worse are the Democrat Party.
" We have work to do on four big areas: feature parity (especially for commenting); the overall UI, especially in terms of information density and headline scanning; plain old bugs; and, lastly, the need for a better framework for communicating about the How and the Why of this process. "
What is it about feature parity is it that you do not get? At least give them credit for trying. There is another way for Slashdot to die, it could die through doing the same old same old for the same old visitors.
And for a group of people who claim to be the voice of the industry in the trenches, a lot of carping seems to ignore plain business sense. If this site doesn't hold its own in a marketplace, it will go away just like every other product that fails to capture a decent return. You might not like putting it in those terms but you know it's true. Sites rarely exist for the mere enjoyment of its visitors. In the end, someone has to pay for it. The Slashdot crowd is the same crowd that will crucify government waste along the lines of, there's too few served to justify the expense.
Dice already said they need to redesign the beta. What more do you want from them, blood? So lay off with the immature "Waaaahhh...they aren't doing what I want them to."
"widely believed to be a CIA asset," by whom?
Well, unless you believe the laws of physics have changed, then I imagine the floodwaters of Noah's time do just about what the flood waters currently do.
So, this G-d fellow is supposed to be even sneakier by tweaking the laws of physics? Wow, is there nothing He won't do? Because if there is, then you have bigger problems than a few buried dino bones.
Let's consider oil, it takes millions of years to produce that...coal as well. To do it, you must have it buried for a long time under a fair amount of pressure, enough so that 6 thousand years won't do it in the places we find it. Not only that, "More than 4000 years ago, according to Herodotus and Diodorus Siculus, asphalt was used in the construction of the walls and towers of Babylon;...". So you now have only about 2000 years to produce the oil and coal.
So this G-d guy not only buried the fossils, he buried the oil and coal. Man, what a weird Dude.
It can take a relatively short time to fossilize a bone. However, we have geological tests that can tell us the true age. And we have many different kinds of tests, they generally agree. However, fossils are embedded in rock that we know takes 10s of thousands if not millions of years to form. So, the fossils didn't get there except by either (a) dying inconveniently longer than 6 thousand years, or (b) this G-d Guy is pulling another fast one. A creationist must conclude he's a sneaky god.
That doesn't really type check. One property of facts deemed necessary is that they are true. You wouldn't claim the concept of an orange to be true would you? Why would you claim a concept like Emotion to be true. You might say someone truly felt a particular emotion. You might claim emotions exist, but emotions here is treated extensionally, like a set. That's akin to saying something like 1 + 1 = 2 in base 10 arithmetic.
The reason I'm being pedantic is that creationists do tend to start with things that hardly anyone can deny simply because they are true, but then start bobbing and weaving attempting an inductive reasoning argument claiming you accepted the basis. I've been down this road with them before, they are devious and not to be trusted.
I think a better argument is to merely accept what the creationists believe and then follow that to the logical conclusions.
A creationist must believe that G-d buried a lot of fossilized bones since science tells us that. And G-d created all the bridging fossils, so we got fooled by G-d. For those non-young Earth creationists, G-d has allowed the rest of the Universe and our solar system in particular to take periodic pot shots at us. What's He trying to do us, wipe us out? That's just the solar system, what about massive volcanoes that are also up to the job. This is some weird G-d, sets us up for success and then via the random luck of the draw, we get to go splat.
Oh, but Jesus says he'll come back to save us. Well, He also said the generation he was talking to would not pass away before He returned. We're still waiting. So did Jesus lie? Could He have been mistaken?
And as for how ethical G-d is, if a good Buddhist grows up never being exposed or even hearing of Christianity, is s/he damned to limbo or worse? How does that get squared with a loving G-d? Ah, but G-d has a plan...which merely involves people being in the wrong place at the wrong time and getting whacked through no fault of their own, like the little 3 year old in Italy who was nailed in mob hit on his family, he was just there so they decided to do him too.
This...this is one funny G-d.
While I agree with your sentiment, I do not think it is possible to have a logical argument with creationists. There does seem to be a trend among the religious conservatives or mere conservatives to simply deny that any evidence contradicting their predetermined solution is factual. Most people in general find it hard to walk back their beliefs, so it isn't a property entirely enjoyed by conservatives, it is just more noticeable with that crowd.
From Nobis Web site (sounds dodgy just from the language):
"Nobis Technology Group, LLC is the parent holding company to roughly a dozen specialized companies and a broad spectrum of websites. We are privately-held, employee-owned, and have been involved in a number of very lucrative Internet services companies of many names since 2002."
I don't trust NoScript to let them further out of the box for their alleged web site to tell me more.
Unless they also mandate good levels of security for these systems, it will end in tears.
I was hoping to see the Greek guy with the electric hair down there looking for aliens. One of these days he'll get abducted and his dreams will come true, kind of. The aliens will alter his memory and from then on he'll claim Jimmy Hoffa and Elvis kidnapped him.
Sure, let's only teach kiddies what they'll actually use. So...how to implement this...how, how, how? I have it, we'll test them at 5 years old. That will tell us their aptitude for different stuff then we only need teach them that. What you say? Maybe their aptitude changes with time? Okay, we'll test them again at 10 and at 15. Each time, we'll only teach them what the tests indicate. Of course, if Johnny or Sally becomes interested in physical science at 16, then s/he will be SOL because we didn't teach them the math we were sure they weren't going to use. Oh, I see, we can then start teaching them at 17...except, those formative years for math and logic are critical, so I guess they are SOL anyhow.
I see you were only taught what you'd use, that must be why you stopped your education at 5.
Ah, so they attempted to prevent you from turning into the unidimensional being you've become, shame on them. What do people do for fun in your dimension?