Propositional logic, first order logic, relevance logic, linear logic, intuitionistic logic, many modal logics, etc. are complete and consistent. What you mean is that first order logic extended with Peano's arithmetic axioms is incomplete as are many second and higher order logics.
Complete and consistent theories for physics are an entirely different kind of thing. Complete would probably mean "it works for everything we know about" and consistent means "we've not found out anything yet that yields a contradiction". Logical theories are judged complete or consistent with respect to a class of mathematical models. Physical theories must be judged complete or consistent with how the world is. The first is transcendental (think Kant), the second is not.
While I agree I do not care about native PDF support in my browser, if you are a scientist, just about all the papers you need to obtain to learn what others are discovering will be in PDF. Those, I can download, I need them rather in soft searchable content. Failing that, I'll take them as images. I think that is the proper use of PDF for scientists. I occasionally find a reference within a PDF as a hotlink useful. However, with adequate references, I can track it down myself. I also find that manufacturers' documentation on their widgets is useful in PDF. I do not want to rely on the cloud, i.e., I am supposed to rely on it being accessible now and in years time when I find a use for it, any more than is absolutely necessary. The cloud will be controlled by Business School Product. They have no use for utility unless it contributes to their progression up the corporate ladder.
yeah, I mean 9/11 never happened and certainly wouldn't happen again given the Taliban's plans to take over Central Asia. They're merely misunderstood.
You'd think if Allah was all he was cracked up to be, he wouldn't need Muslims threatening the rest of us with Fatwas and stupid death. If Muhammad was such a prophet for Allah, wouldn't Allah smite those who offended his legacy? Muslims have a saying, "If Allah wills it." Okay, then SFU and let Allah deal with us infidels while Muslims can go back to living their tiny little cloistered existences.
Muslims consider the Christian and Jewish G-d to be Allah and Jesus to be a prophet. They are unlikely to make fun of them. Islam's crime is rather the denigration of all non-Muslims into non-humans.
According to Wikipedia, TARP will cost the U. S. $89 billion. That's the amount you would recover if you were to recover all of TARP that is unrecoverable under the current rules. The rest has either already been paid back or will be paid back.
The real driver of the deficit is the underlying structural deficit of taxes not covering expenditures and the stimulus that Congress and the Administration insisted we needed to get the economy moving. Maybe it did do that. However, there is an alternate school of thought that the reluctance of American business and consumers to spend is the fear that the current upturn is merely deficit fueled and will go away when that stimulus finishes running through the system. The result is a shallower but longer recession.
Personally, I can see both sides, neither are good. Deficit spending is unsustainable and will prevent the U.S. from mobilizing for future shocks. The U.S. needs to live within its means. There is a problem in that only about 35-45% ( I think the figure is the low one) of Americans are paying income tax. That's wrong anyway you cut it. If all you tax are the rich, the rich will find a way to stop paying and your tax base is decimated. Companies can pass along some of their tax hit to their customers, sometimes all of it. So it unclear that taxing them is not taxing us. That doesn't mean we should not tax them, but understand the effects.
The biggest driver of deficits is are the social programs. Military + discretionary is roughly $1 trillion although I think there are some who would argue the Military budget is actually higher than it actually is. Whatever, over $2 trillion is social programs. Americans wish to retire too early, too many have their straws in social security, medical expenditures are out of control. The new health care bill does nothing to address this and probably increases expenditures. The problem is we have a for-profit health system. The U.S. needs to take the profit out by setting up a system that has non-profit carriers like some Euro countries. Research and new therapies will take a hit, but let's identify that problem when it arises and develop a funding formula that answers the problem instead of blindly assuming the for-profit system will.
Huh? How did the Jews get into this? Go ahead, be an anti-semetic. You are in good company: Hitler, Stalin, the House of Saud, The Inquisition, the Taliban, Hamas, Hezbollah, the Muslim Brotherhood, the modern neo-Nazies. They all have/had their conspiracy theories about the Jewish BoogieMan behind all that goes wrong in the world only to deflect criticism of their own failings or to make themselves feel superior.
The Anbar Awakening reduced Al Qaeda in Iraq to a mere shell and decreased attacks on coalition troops by over half. What have you been smoking?
Planes full of 100 dollar bills probably was stolen. The U.S. military was using them bills to pay people to work for the Iraqi gov, not against it.
"Why did Rumsfeld fail to secure Iraqi munitions dumps while putting policy into place that put most Sunnis out of work (De-Baathification?)" Stupidity. But don't let that stop your conspiracy theories.
Halliburton was the only company which had the resources to do those contracts. Granted, they didn't do them well. There was this war going on, you might have heard of it...but I doubt it given what you think.
Oh? And which dictators around the world are we propping up? We pulled the rug out from under Marcos in favor of a democracy. We put Noriega in Panama in jail and now that he's done his time, we're extraditing him to Spain for something or other. We pushed Musharraf in Pakistan into elections which he lost. We took out the Taliban in Afghanistan to attempt a democratic government instead of a theocracy run by a bunch of paranoid Pashtuns. We pushed for apartheid to stop in S. Africa. When we handed Kuwait back to the Kuwaitis, we made sure they opened up and become democratic. They still have a way to go but they're trying. When the Kosovo Muslims were being killed by the Serb, the U.S. bombed the Serbs back into their borders.
When the Indonesian sunami hit, it was the U.S. Navy bringing supplies and humanitarian aid onshore at U.S. expense. This to help a lot of Muslims who hate the U.S. given the rhetoric of leaders in Aceh, the province hit the hardest. When the Pakistan earthquake hit, it was the U.S. rushing in aid amongst others.
Now, about these dictators you claim we're supporting. Care to name names? I'll help you out a bit: Mubarak of Egypt. A bit tricky there, cut him off at the knees so the Muslim Brotherhood can get on with killing the Jews. That would make you happy but it isn't a humanitarian gesture. Hmmm....who else....errr....there must be some other dictator out there...surely....
Hehehehe...just give us time, we'll be taking down the House of Saud too, worthless bastards. Well, we will if I become president. We went after the wrong group of bastards.
We fund the Saudi regime to the same extend we buy oil because, well, we have this economy that runs on it. Actually, it was Roosevelt who wrote the original deal. We also buy Venezuelan oil, doesn't mean we support them either. Now if you mean we arm and help defend Saudi oil, yep, we do that. So if you and your friends would just stop driving those damn cars, we could stop.
FedGov sets up its own soldiers to be killed because it justifies continued presence in the Middle East? Really. And where did you learn this? And the U.S. bombed the Golden Dome? Now why would the U.S. do such a thing? C'mon give us a reason. Iraqi Oil? You means the stuff the Iraqis are contracting to the Chinese to help produce? Get a grip, man. There are worse things in the world than your beliefs, but they usually have more to back them up.
You are assuming the analysis is inaccurate. And no I'm not still waiting for WMDs to be found or links between Saddam and al Qaeda. Saddam was naughty all by himself.
So, how does it feel to be sympathetic to the Butcher of Baghdad and the rest of his murderous Sunnis? Care to explain to the Shi'ites in Iraq how much you value their freedom? Or the Kurds? Don't hold back, tell them how you really feel.
Actually, we waste less civilians with more analysis, more constraints, responsibility and oversight. You might have missed the changes the U.S. military made since Vietnam when you last looked in on them.
They cannot make it land butter-side up, they have no butter. Hell, they don't even have toast or toasters to toast in or electricity to waste on toasters. The little sawed-off Dear Leader Runt needs to go tits-up soon before the nation does...although it would serve China right if the entire N. Korean pop. made a run for the Chinese border seeing as how helpful China has been over N. Korea.
I think I can put the doomsayers at rest. I have a giant tote-board for recording their predictions so that the proper blame...errr....credit can be handed out after the Big Event happens...beeeellllions and beeelllions in prize money, they'll think they were SCO and their suit against IBM finally was resolved in their favor. In addition, there will be a ceremonial feast where the prize money will be handed out and a surprise vacation package for the winner aboard the Love Boat. Yep, she still sails the ocean blue. Englebert Humperdink will sing at their table, Wayne Newton will croon them to sleep. Errrr....wait a minute...ah, hehehehe, I sort of confused the winner's package with the loser's package. Anyhow, it's going to be big.
Yes, but that is not how it will be taught. A few science teachers maybe able to teach it this way, but it will instead be taught by people who are not scientists and unable to counter the theological arguments that will be brought up by ill-informed parents and school boards. Let the theory with the highest opinion ratings be the one taught.
You mean their papers were rejected by peer reviewed journals which eventually led to their non-advancement in their fields? Well, science is as scientists do and they made the rules.
Next, you probably wish to argue that many great scientific theories were once discounted. True, but you'd be comparing apples and oranges then. It is not known in advance which theories are lemons and which are actually good until enough evidence was presented to tip the balance. And that evidence is usually provided by scientists. A science cannot accept put-up whack-jobs (phlogiston) on the (usually) forlorn hope that sometime in the future they may pan out.
Now, about this phlogiston theory, I've personally selected to accept your monthly payments to a trust fund that will pay off when the theory is finally proven to be true. How much would you be contributing?
Not really, Venter is only aping what he's seen of real life. For it to be intelligent design (of life) and not intelligent copying, he'd have to generate entirely new *kinds* of organisms, i.e., those not built on DNA, cells, etc.
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Propositional logic, first order logic, relevance logic, linear logic, intuitionistic logic, many modal logics, etc. are complete and consistent. What you mean is that first order logic extended with Peano's arithmetic axioms is incomplete as are many second and higher order logics.
Complete and consistent theories for physics are an entirely different kind of thing. Complete would probably mean "it works for everything we know about" and consistent means "we've not found out anything yet that yields a contradiction". Logical theories are judged complete or consistent with respect to a class of mathematical models. Physical theories must be judged complete or consistent with how the world is. The first is transcendental (think Kant), the second is not.
One should develop a sense of proportion.
"Where the hell are they getting their security information from?" Recent Business School Product.
While I agree I do not care about native PDF support in my browser, if you are a scientist, just about all the papers you need to obtain to learn what others are discovering will be in PDF. Those, I can download, I need them rather in soft searchable content. Failing that, I'll take them as images. I think that is the proper use of PDF for scientists. I occasionally find a reference within a PDF as a hotlink useful. However, with adequate references, I can track it down myself. I also find that manufacturers' documentation on their widgets is useful in PDF. I do not want to rely on the cloud, i.e., I am supposed to rely on it being accessible now and in years time when I find a use for it, any more than is absolutely necessary. The cloud will be controlled by Business School Product. They have no use for utility unless it contributes to their progression up the corporate ladder.
"You know China must be interested.", Yep, just ask the Pakistanis who seem to see an Indian behind every bush.
yeah, I mean 9/11 never happened and certainly wouldn't happen again given the Taliban's plans to take over Central Asia. They're merely misunderstood.
The Koran.
You'd think if Allah was all he was cracked up to be, he wouldn't need Muslims threatening the rest of us with Fatwas and stupid death. If Muhammad was such a prophet for Allah, wouldn't Allah smite those who offended his legacy? Muslims have a saying, "If Allah wills it." Okay, then SFU and let Allah deal with us infidels while Muslims can go back to living their tiny little cloistered existences.
Muslims consider the Christian and Jewish G-d to be Allah and Jesus to be a prophet. They are unlikely to make fun of them. Islam's crime is rather the denigration of all non-Muslims into non-humans.
According to Wikipedia, TARP will cost the U. S. $89 billion. That's the amount you would recover if you were to recover all of TARP that is unrecoverable under the current rules. The rest has either already been paid back or will be paid back.
The real driver of the deficit is the underlying structural deficit of taxes not covering expenditures and the stimulus that Congress and the Administration insisted we needed to get the economy moving. Maybe it did do that. However, there is an alternate school of thought that the reluctance of American business and consumers to spend is the fear that the current upturn is merely deficit fueled and will go away when that stimulus finishes running through the system. The result is a shallower but longer recession.
Personally, I can see both sides, neither are good. Deficit spending is unsustainable and will prevent the U.S. from mobilizing for future shocks. The U.S. needs to live within its means. There is a problem in that only about 35-45% ( I think the figure is the low one) of Americans are paying income tax. That's wrong anyway you cut it. If all you tax are the rich, the rich will find a way to stop paying and your tax base is decimated. Companies can pass along some of their tax hit to their customers, sometimes all of it. So it unclear that taxing them is not taxing us. That doesn't mean we should not tax them, but understand the effects.
The biggest driver of deficits is are the social programs. Military + discretionary is roughly $1 trillion although I think there are some who would argue the Military budget is actually higher than it actually is. Whatever, over $2 trillion is social programs. Americans wish to retire too early, too many have their straws in social security, medical expenditures are out of control. The new health care bill does nothing to address this and probably increases expenditures. The problem is we have a for-profit health system. The U.S. needs to take the profit out by setting up a system that has non-profit carriers like some Euro countries. Research and new therapies will take a hit, but let's identify that problem when it arises and develop a funding formula that answers the problem instead of blindly assuming the for-profit system will.
No, it is actually Muppet. You just cannot see one of them without seeing they resemble a Muppet you've come to know and love.
Stop with the evil bullshit. Hitler, Stalin, Mao, they were evil. A company not doing what you wish is not being evil.
Now, now. Try the little RED pills this time.
"WHO in their right minds would knowingly buy a low-quality good"
Patrons of Wal-Mart.
Huh? How did the Jews get into this? Go ahead, be an anti-semetic. You are in good company: Hitler, Stalin, the House of Saud, The Inquisition, the Taliban, Hamas, Hezbollah, the Muslim Brotherhood, the modern neo-Nazies. They all have/had their conspiracy theories about the Jewish BoogieMan behind all that goes wrong in the world only to deflect criticism of their own failings or to make themselves feel superior.
The Anbar Awakening reduced Al Qaeda in Iraq to a mere shell and decreased attacks on coalition troops by over half. What have you been smoking?
Planes full of 100 dollar bills probably was stolen. The U.S. military was using them bills to pay people to work for the Iraqi gov, not against it.
"Why did Rumsfeld fail to secure Iraqi munitions dumps while putting policy into place that put most Sunnis out of work (De-Baathification?)" Stupidity. But don't let that stop your conspiracy theories.
Halliburton was the only company which had the resources to do those contracts. Granted, they didn't do them well. There was this war going on, you might have heard of it...but I doubt it given what you think.
Oh? And which dictators around the world are we propping up? We pulled the rug out from under Marcos in favor of a democracy. We put Noriega in Panama in jail and now that he's done his time, we're extraditing him to Spain for something or other. We pushed Musharraf in Pakistan into elections which he lost. We took out the Taliban in Afghanistan to attempt a democratic government instead of a theocracy run by a bunch of paranoid Pashtuns. We pushed for apartheid to stop in S. Africa. When we handed Kuwait back to the Kuwaitis, we made sure they opened up and become democratic. They still have a way to go but they're trying. When the Kosovo Muslims were being killed by the Serb, the U.S. bombed the Serbs back into their borders.
When the Indonesian sunami hit, it was the U.S. Navy bringing supplies and humanitarian aid onshore at U.S. expense. This to help a lot of Muslims who hate the U.S. given the rhetoric of leaders in Aceh, the province hit the hardest. When the Pakistan earthquake hit, it was the U.S. rushing in aid amongst others.
Now, about these dictators you claim we're supporting. Care to name names? I'll help you out a bit: Mubarak of Egypt. A bit tricky there, cut him off at the knees so the Muslim Brotherhood can get on with killing the Jews. That would make you happy but it isn't a humanitarian gesture. Hmmm....who else....errr....there must be some other dictator out there...surely....
Hehehehe...just give us time, we'll be taking down the House of Saud too, worthless bastards. Well, we will if I become president. We went after the wrong group of bastards.
We fund the Saudi regime to the same extend we buy oil because, well, we have this economy that runs on it. Actually, it was Roosevelt who wrote the original deal. We also buy Venezuelan oil, doesn't mean we support them either. Now if you mean we arm and help defend Saudi oil, yep, we do that. So if you and your friends would just stop driving those damn cars, we could stop.
FedGov sets up its own soldiers to be killed because it justifies continued presence in the Middle East? Really. And where did you learn this? And the U.S. bombed the Golden Dome? Now why would the U.S. do such a thing? C'mon give us a reason. Iraqi Oil? You means the stuff the Iraqis are contracting to the Chinese to help produce? Get a grip, man. There are worse things in the world than your beliefs, but they usually have more to back them up.
That was Reagan, get yer puppets straight, sheesh.
That would be Iranian Rials. Sort of like Dinars except with a different mob backing them.
You are assuming the analysis is inaccurate. And no I'm not still waiting for WMDs to be found or links between Saddam and al Qaeda. Saddam was naughty all by himself.
So, how does it feel to be sympathetic to the Butcher of Baghdad and the rest of his murderous Sunnis? Care to explain to the Shi'ites in Iraq how much you value their freedom? Or the Kurds? Don't hold back, tell them how you really feel.
Actually, we waste less civilians with more analysis, more constraints, responsibility and oversight. You might have missed the changes the U.S. military made since Vietnam when you last looked in on them.
They cannot make it land butter-side up, they have no butter. Hell, they don't even have toast or toasters to toast in or electricity to waste on toasters. The little sawed-off Dear Leader Runt needs to go tits-up soon before the nation does...although it would serve China right if the entire N. Korean pop. made a run for the Chinese border seeing as how helpful China has been over N. Korea.
I think I can put the doomsayers at rest. I have a giant tote-board for recording their predictions so that the proper blame...errr....credit can be handed out after the Big Event happens...beeeellllions and beeelllions in prize money, they'll think they were SCO and their suit against IBM finally was resolved in their favor. In addition, there will be a ceremonial feast where the prize money will be handed out and a surprise vacation package for the winner aboard the Love Boat. Yep, she still sails the ocean blue. Englebert Humperdink will sing at their table, Wayne Newton will croon them to sleep. Errrr....wait a minute...ah, hehehehe, I sort of confused the winner's package with the loser's package. Anyhow, it's going to be big.
Yes, but that is not how it will be taught. A few science teachers maybe able to teach it this way, but it will instead be taught by people who are not scientists and unable to counter the theological arguments that will be brought up by ill-informed parents and school boards. Let the theory with the highest opinion ratings be the one taught.
You mean their papers were rejected by peer reviewed journals which eventually led to their non-advancement in their fields? Well, science is as scientists do and they made the rules.
Next, you probably wish to argue that many great scientific theories were once discounted. True, but you'd be comparing apples and oranges then. It is not known in advance which theories are lemons and which are actually good until enough evidence was presented to tip the balance. And that evidence is usually provided by scientists. A science cannot accept put-up whack-jobs (phlogiston) on the (usually) forlorn hope that sometime in the future they may pan out.
Now, about this phlogiston theory, I've personally selected to accept your monthly payments to a trust fund that will pay off when the theory is finally proven to be true. How much would you be contributing?
Not really, Venter is only aping what he's seen of real life. For it to be intelligent design (of life) and not intelligent copying, he'd have to generate entirely new *kinds* of organisms, i.e., those not built on DNA, cells, etc.