And, you are fill of shit. You are assuming what you wish to prove, namely that religion comes from imaginary friends. Science is silent on the issue. And at its core, all religions are not Taliban. Christianity with its turn the other cheek. Buddhism with its notion of seeking enlightenment without hurting other people or beings.
You wish to argue that religion causes people to justify all kinds of inhumanity. Granted. However, were it not for religion, those who practice inhumanity would simply choose some other handy rationale for justifying inhumanity. Consider Christian charities that give without quid pro quo. There are Islamic charities that do similar work. There are Jewish and Buddhist and Hindu charities which similarly give help merely because helping others is good.
If you are going to damn every religion because of fanatics, you can choose to damn every human endeavor, no matter how good, for those who would pervert it. You have no depth of perception, and in fact, are no better than the those who you would damn.
Whenever I've compared the machines I would need with similar Dell or HP, I don't see much of a difference. You've done your own, fine, I'm happy you are happy with them.
I admit Apple isn't going to come to my house, but then I don't want Apple coming to my house. They simply aren't as large company as Dell (stock market cap doesn't count).
I never had any problem with Apple supporting my machines with alien RAM. I don't think they care but I don't know their policy. If it important to you, I'm sure you can look it up.
You seem to be anti-Apple at all cost. I'm not anti-linux or anti-pc other than just for myself, I simply don't like the look and feel of either.
I used to be Asst. Dir. of a Lab at a Uni. I did regularly have to use a windows box. Puke City, I still have nightmares.
Well, it must have been about 4 years ago that I bought Yellow Dog, I still have the disks so I'm sure they didn't come for free.
Apple seems to have good support, they are even based here in the U.S. and seems to be at Apple's HQ. I've used them on a number of occasions to track down hardware glitches.
What's ludicrous to you might not be for me. I don't mind paying extra for the box + OS and bundled software. Those packages are not that different than comparable systems from other manufacturers. I think you think buying a computer means buying the hardware. That's fine. But that is not what I'm buying.
Does Apple support third party RAM...errr...this is a trick question, right? There's a whole industry built around supporting Apple products and that industry is not owned by Apple.
Nonsense, I've used other systems and have generally been appalled at the way they work. We regularly must use the Defense Travel System on a Windows XP box. Yuck. There are many windows boxes here at the lab that similarly have the horrible stench of MS software no matter what they are running. The Linux boxes I've used weren't much better. I even bought yellow dog Linux for my Mac and dual booted for awhile. Eventually I realized I really, really disliked the way it worked.
You seem to make your decisions on the price of RAM and whether it runs Linux. How often do you upgrade RAM? I have bought RAM and not from Apple. I don't understand what that has to do with Apple equipment in general.
Probably not since the only thing I've seen from the big box manufacturers is...what...no taste. Besides, comparable systems from outside Apple are not all that much cheaper. I upgrade about every 3 years at work and about every....oooo....10 years at home. I suppose I'm about due there.
And I'd be worried the integration isn't very tight and since Apple can make changes without consulting the box manufacturers, it would be subject to breakage.
Does this mean I'm locked in? Yep. Don't care, it does what I want when I want and seems to last forever. The only reason I upgrade at work is for fast machines, much like any PC person. Also, I've been on Macs since they came out. My research life is built around them by choice, I simply like the way they work.
How come you were marked down to troll? I don't agree with that. I thought you had a legitimate question about why someone like me doesn't switch. I don't switch because price isn't everything.
Yes, your assessment is quite correct. It is well known that one can judge the measure of a man simply by looking him. Thank you for validating that cornerstone of human behavior.
Yeah, yer right. How come no one thought to program a computer with all the possible missteps and simply read off the result: thou shalt not drill this well. Gosh, you should go to work for the oil industry, I'm sure with your intellect you'd set them straight in no time.
Your prescriptions are all reactive; the damage will already have been done before any of your sad solutions can take effect. There will always be companies and individuals who will cut corners, coming in after the fact and screwing them won't stop the problems they are causing. On the other hand, it would be a full-employment program for lawyers, that much maligned and under-employed segment of American society.
Name one promising product Novell has to flog in the marketplace? Linux is Free, and Red Hat is beating them. Novell's network OS is dying. They have nothing and should have given up the ghost long ago, they just didn't realize they were dead.
Canopy doesn't have enough money. What would Microsoft get? Just about anyone who values Linux would run to Red Hat. Patents? I suppose they'd get a few, but probably not covering much since they already have a patent deal with Novell. Unix copyrights? What would they do with them?
Why? That case was peanuts in terms of cost to Novell. If anything, it would have increased the good will in the FOSS world and thus their distro would become more viable. But it wouldn't have decreased it.
I didn't forget, the West had the Greek heritage with its distinction between the power of man and the power of gods. The West was also quite mercantile in day to day dealings. Both of those strains eventually forced a change in the Church. The West was also less monolithic in its religious heritage. So when the Inquisition so horrified the inhabitants, there were strains in society that could be relied on to force change.
Just changing the guy at the top won't do it. The place with built with the Gates mentality of defending your local turf. So there are fiefdoms within MS that just won't get along because to do that would mean they'd have to give up their local power. It isn't clear how some guy at the top can change that without going through the organization with a meatcleaver. If that happens, MS will never recover. They've painted themselves into a technological corner. Their software is too big and bloated for the small devices and their organization is too big and bloated to take advantage of the fast changing world of small devices. All the research and "innovation" in the world won't fix that.
I do not believe Islam is capable of reform. In the West, political power comes from the people, if we forget the usurpers like lobbyists, corrupt politicians and the like. At least most constitutions of Western countries enshrine this notion. In Islamic countries, political power comes from Allah or at least that is what most Muslims believe and the usurpers like Mubarak and the Saudi royal family are aberrations. With the political will of the people denied by the people, the only true wielders of power in Islamic lands will be the mullahs and imams. These are the worst sort of people for wielding such power since they are answerable to no one. They will argue they are answerable to Allah but their own minds get to interpret how their actions are judged while here on Earth. So we get stupidities like the Saudi morality police, the fatwas against infidels they don't like, and the capricious nature of Islamic law; basing law on an out of date apocryphal book written by a probable late stage schizophrenic is not a basis for a successful society.
The Federal Reserve did have flaws with loose monetary policy. They are not public enemy number one, however. The Fed was only an enabler. They also enabled Congress to overspend. The overspending was the fault of the American people, and their representatives...which strangely enough the American people voted for...hence the American people are also responsible for the huge deficits as well as signing on to debt they had no conceivable hope of repaying.
The bankers are enablers, you are arguing the criminal isn't responsible for his crime because the goods were simply there to taken. You are absolving the American people of responsibility, something that has happened for way too long leading to the current economic crisis...which by the way won't be easy to fix because the American people will complain bitterly when government takes away the baubles they cannot pay for.
Making bankers pay isn't as easy as it sounds. When banks are big enough to imperil an entire system, the system itself needs reform before we allow banks to fail. And the highest bidder wouldn't be asking for a dime less than the original bank note he bought when he purchased the original bank, the homeowner will pay as per the contract he signed.
This has nothing to do with Libs or Red States, why the hell are you bringing up those red herrings. This is about whether we are going to somehow have a balance scale where every state gets back what it contributes to the federal purse. Let's forget about what the Feds do provide. It is simply a stupid argument that shows the ignorance of how a modern economy functions.
Yep, so we should always choose to teach truths and leave out the "historical teachings". I have a machine here which will tell you which ones those are so we never will have errant text books. For what I assure you is a small amount of money, I will let you use my machine. Just leave the money in small bills in the dead of night on my doorstep. You'll always be assured of the truth from now on.
So what? If this the United States or the Union of States Interested in Only Themselves? Texas wouldn't have the economy it does if it were not for the rest of the U.S. regardless of whether when they count their pennies they give and get from the feds that it comes out equal.
Nonsense, the primary responsibility for the irresponsibility in home loans is...the American people. They signed papers they didn't understand and reveled in being ignorant, they bought houses they could not afford, they bought second houses, they took out the equity in their current dwelling, they did everything they could think of to make a buck before the game of economic musical chairs stopped. Now that they got caught holding the bag, they are looking for scapegoats.
That doesn't mean they were not enabled by the federal gov. and by Wall Street securitizing loans and thus removing the connection between risk and collateral. They were ill-served by builders, realtors, local banks, mortgage companies, rating agencies, etc. All that, yet no one put a gun to the American dolt's head and said sign here or else. They did that all by themselves and I (being one myself) do not believe we should let us off the hook for cleaning up the mess.
Your classmates were not fat probably because of what they did after school. I recall growing up in the olden days (60's) and to come home meant to spend 5 minutes changing and rushing out the door to the football, basketball, or hockey game played with the neighborhood kids. We had a TV but Ma said it was a waste of time and said no. But there was little need to say no, sports were much more interesting. We'd get back for din-din and homework. Weekends were great because then you could get several games in a day instead of the 1 or 2 after school.
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And, you are fill of shit. You are assuming what you wish to prove, namely that religion comes from imaginary friends. Science is silent on the issue. And at its core, all religions are not Taliban. Christianity with its turn the other cheek. Buddhism with its notion of seeking enlightenment without hurting other people or beings.
You wish to argue that religion causes people to justify all kinds of inhumanity. Granted. However, were it not for religion, those who practice inhumanity would simply choose some other handy rationale for justifying inhumanity. Consider Christian charities that give without quid pro quo. There are Islamic charities that do similar work. There are Jewish and Buddhist and Hindu charities which similarly give help merely because helping others is good.
If you are going to damn every religion because of fanatics, you can choose to damn every human endeavor, no matter how good, for those who would pervert it. You have no depth of perception, and in fact, are no better than the those who you would damn.
Whenever I've compared the machines I would need with similar Dell or HP, I don't see much of a difference. You've done your own, fine, I'm happy you are happy with them.
I admit Apple isn't going to come to my house, but then I don't want Apple coming to my house. They simply aren't as large company as Dell (stock market cap doesn't count).
I never had any problem with Apple supporting my machines with alien RAM. I don't think they care but I don't know their policy. If it important to you, I'm sure you can look it up.
You seem to be anti-Apple at all cost. I'm not anti-linux or anti-pc other than just for myself, I simply don't like the look and feel of either.
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I used to be Asst. Dir. of a Lab at a Uni. I did regularly have to use a windows box. Puke City, I still have nightmares.
Well, it must have been about 4 years ago that I bought Yellow Dog, I still have the disks so I'm sure they didn't come for free.
Apple seems to have good support, they are even based here in the U.S. and seems to be at Apple's HQ. I've used them on a number of occasions to track down hardware glitches.
What's ludicrous to you might not be for me. I don't mind paying extra for the box + OS and bundled software. Those packages are not that different than comparable systems from other manufacturers. I think you think buying a computer means buying the hardware. That's fine. But that is not what I'm buying.
Does Apple support third party RAM...errr...this is a trick question, right? There's a whole industry built around supporting Apple products and that industry is not owned by Apple.
Nonsense, I've used other systems and have generally been appalled at the way they work. We regularly must use the Defense Travel System on a Windows XP box. Yuck. There are many windows boxes here at the lab that similarly have the horrible stench of MS software no matter what they are running. The Linux boxes I've used weren't much better. I even bought yellow dog Linux for my Mac and dual booted for awhile. Eventually I realized I really, really disliked the way it worked.
You seem to make your decisions on the price of RAM and whether it runs Linux. How often do you upgrade RAM? I have bought RAM and not from Apple. I don't understand what that has to do with Apple equipment in general.
Probably not since the only thing I've seen from the big box manufacturers is...what...no taste. Besides, comparable systems from outside Apple are not all that much cheaper. I upgrade about every 3 years at work and about every....oooo....10 years at home. I suppose I'm about due there.
And I'd be worried the integration isn't very tight and since Apple can make changes without consulting the box manufacturers, it would be subject to breakage.
Does this mean I'm locked in? Yep. Don't care, it does what I want when I want and seems to last forever. The only reason I upgrade at work is for fast machines, much like any PC person. Also, I've been on Macs since they came out. My research life is built around them by choice, I simply like the way they work.
How come you were marked down to troll? I don't agree with that. I thought you had a legitimate question about why someone like me doesn't switch. I don't switch because price isn't everything.
Yep, the OS should be free, right?
Not really, their software and its integration with hardware IS worth more than Windoze + box. I never met a Linux interface I liked.
Yes, your assessment is quite correct. It is well known that one can judge the measure of a man simply by looking him. Thank you for validating that cornerstone of human behavior.
Yeah, yer right. How come no one thought to program a computer with all the possible missteps and simply read off the result: thou shalt not drill this well. Gosh, you should go to work for the oil industry, I'm sure with your intellect you'd set them straight in no time.
Your prescriptions are all reactive; the damage will already have been done before any of your sad solutions can take effect. There will always be companies and individuals who will cut corners, coming in after the fact and screwing them won't stop the problems they are causing. On the other hand, it would be a full-employment program for lawyers, that much maligned and under-employed segment of American society.
Palmisano sees IBM growing everywhere except in the U.S. They are not an American company any more and they do not want more U.S. properties.
Name one promising product Novell has to flog in the marketplace? Linux is Free, and Red Hat is beating them. Novell's network OS is dying. They have nothing and should have given up the ghost long ago, they just didn't realize they were dead.
Canopy doesn't have enough money. What would Microsoft get? Just about anyone who values Linux would run to Red Hat. Patents? I suppose they'd get a few, but probably not covering much since they already have a patent deal with Novell. Unix copyrights? What would they do with them?
Why? That case was peanuts in terms of cost to Novell. If anything, it would have increased the good will in the FOSS world and thus their distro would become more viable. But it wouldn't have decreased it.
I didn't forget, the West had the Greek heritage with its distinction between the power of man and the power of gods. The West was also quite mercantile in day to day dealings. Both of those strains eventually forced a change in the Church. The West was also less monolithic in its religious heritage. So when the Inquisition so horrified the inhabitants, there were strains in society that could be relied on to force change.
Just changing the guy at the top won't do it. The place with built with the Gates mentality of defending your local turf. So there are fiefdoms within MS that just won't get along because to do that would mean they'd have to give up their local power. It isn't clear how some guy at the top can change that without going through the organization with a meatcleaver. If that happens, MS will never recover. They've painted themselves into a technological corner. Their software is too big and bloated for the small devices and their organization is too big and bloated to take advantage of the fast changing world of small devices. All the research and "innovation" in the world won't fix that.
Given the way Islamic societies treat Mohammed, that treatment is indistinguishable from worship. They are all guilty.
I do not believe Islam is capable of reform. In the West, political power comes from the people, if we forget the usurpers like lobbyists, corrupt politicians and the like. At least most constitutions of Western countries enshrine this notion. In Islamic countries, political power comes from Allah or at least that is what most Muslims believe and the usurpers like Mubarak and the Saudi royal family are aberrations. With the political will of the people denied by the people, the only true wielders of power in Islamic lands will be the mullahs and imams. These are the worst sort of people for wielding such power since they are answerable to no one. They will argue they are answerable to Allah but their own minds get to interpret how their actions are judged while here on Earth. So we get stupidities like the Saudi morality police, the fatwas against infidels they don't like, and the capricious nature of Islamic law; basing law on an out of date apocryphal book written by a probable late stage schizophrenic is not a basis for a successful society.
The Federal Reserve did have flaws with loose monetary policy. They are not public enemy number one, however. The Fed was only an enabler. They also enabled Congress to overspend. The overspending was the fault of the American people, and their representatives...which strangely enough the American people voted for...hence the American people are also responsible for the huge deficits as well as signing on to debt they had no conceivable hope of repaying.
The bankers are enablers, you are arguing the criminal isn't responsible for his crime because the goods were simply there to taken. You are absolving the American people of responsibility, something that has happened for way too long leading to the current economic crisis...which by the way won't be easy to fix because the American people will complain bitterly when government takes away the baubles they cannot pay for.
Making bankers pay isn't as easy as it sounds. When banks are big enough to imperil an entire system, the system itself needs reform before we allow banks to fail. And the highest bidder wouldn't be asking for a dime less than the original bank note he bought when he purchased the original bank, the homeowner will pay as per the contract he signed.
This has nothing to do with Libs or Red States, why the hell are you bringing up those red herrings. This is about whether we are going to somehow have a balance scale where every state gets back what it contributes to the federal purse. Let's forget about what the Feds do provide. It is simply a stupid argument that shows the ignorance of how a modern economy functions.
Yep, so we should always choose to teach truths and leave out the "historical teachings". I have a machine here which will tell you which ones those are so we never will have errant text books. For what I assure you is a small amount of money, I will let you use my machine. Just leave the money in small bills in the dead of night on my doorstep. You'll always be assured of the truth from now on.
So what? If this the United States or the Union of States Interested in Only Themselves? Texas wouldn't have the economy it does if it were not for the rest of the U.S. regardless of whether when they count their pennies they give and get from the feds that it comes out equal.
Nonsense, the primary responsibility for the irresponsibility in home loans is...the American people. They signed papers they didn't understand and reveled in being ignorant, they bought houses they could not afford, they bought second houses, they took out the equity in their current dwelling, they did everything they could think of to make a buck before the game of economic musical chairs stopped. Now that they got caught holding the bag, they are looking for scapegoats.
That doesn't mean they were not enabled by the federal gov. and by Wall Street securitizing loans and thus removing the connection between risk and collateral. They were ill-served by builders, realtors, local banks, mortgage companies, rating agencies, etc. All that, yet no one put a gun to the American dolt's head and said sign here or else. They did that all by themselves and I (being one myself) do not believe we should let us off the hook for cleaning up the mess.
Your classmates were not fat probably because of what they did after school. I recall growing up in the olden days (60's) and to come home meant to spend 5 minutes changing and rushing out the door to the football, basketball, or hockey game played with the neighborhood kids. We had a TV but Ma said it was a waste of time and said no. But there was little need to say no, sports were much more interesting. We'd get back for din-din and homework. Weekends were great because then you could get several games in a day instead of the 1 or 2 after school.