A mouse on your modem huh, how qute. There is no real need to be an ass you know, especially if you screw up in your post anyways. Should I go "BZZZT, try again" as well?
Well, here it is. BZZZT, try again. The PeeCee didn't have any use for that mouse back in '83, while the ST at least had a coherent GUI and OS. Besides, who gives a flying f^Hduck? The mouse conceptualized from the Xerox PARC project. They were the first. Everyone feel better now? Look, they'll be those who will keep on ranting about the 1-button since well... thats all there is to rant about. Frankly, I don't get what the problem is. The interface is FULLY usable with the stock mouse. Yes, I prefer my optical 3-button mouse. Yes, I will use it with my Mini or iBook when I get it.
With the exception of f*@#@^-up un-PC hardware (yes, that includes YOU, Mr. Sony Vaio - although you are supported now too) and various odds-and-ends (such as cheapo WiFi cards), Linux has by FAR the most comprehensive hardware support when compared with Windows.
I was cleaning my room earlier this month and stumbled upon a pack of 5.25" floppies with data that goes back a WAY. Naturally, I wanted to see what was on the disks (and back them up on an almost as-ancient DDS device or CDRW). To my amazement, Windows XP refused to recognise the 5.25" half-height floppy OR the full-height 360K floppy. No such problems with Linux. Got an IBM PS/2 built around MCA bus and a SCSI or ESDI disk? Good luck with anything out of Redmond newer than WFW 3.11. And yet no problems with Linux - which has support for Microchannel, ESDI AND the quirky ESDI behavior found on my now-gone m55. I suppose I won't have to mention an old MFM drive OR non-IDE non-SCSI CD-ROM (yes, I needed a CDROM in a machine and this is all I had, rofl) - Linux 1, Windows 0. You don't even need to deal with obsolete or odd equipment to see that Linux kicks Windows where it hurts when it comes to hardware support. I have a PCI Adaptec UltraWide differential SCSI adapter that has NEVER worked under Windows XP. Never. Well, let me restate that. Windows refused to recognise the device most of the time. When it DID recognise it, it displayed the little exclamation sign next to the device name MOST of the time... and when it didn't, I received bluescreen STOP errors after light usage. NEVER had that problem with Linux. In fact, when I updated my PowerMac clone, I moved the adapter AND the 20Gb disk out of my Athlon machine, and it has no problems working with Linux/PPC either. Heck, SATA support in Windows XP means scrounging for drivers on vendor-supplied floppy... what a joke. I laughed my ass off when my dad couldn't install XP on a SATA drive, but could install SuSE.
My motherboard is in the process of dieing from leaking caps:'(. I don't even bother looking at it anymore... I have leaking and bulging caps, and technically it could break at any second.
Technically, it could be made to work. Just like Win'95, which ran in protected mode, could be made to use BIOS for disk access... so it would actually drop back into real mode, perform the operation, and go back. Yeah, it sucks.
There is really no good reason TO make it work. Unnecessary overhead... hell.. do you really want your kernel to constantly switch from 64 to 32-bit mode? Thats pretty expensive!
First of all its "Torvalds," and secondly, it wasn't easy in the sense of 'any dumbass can write one.' Plus, a more attractive development model (read: less philosophising about theory... HURD really is more like a research project) and a more practical 'lets get this weird device to work' approach led to the effective relegation of the HURD to the boondocks. It [Linux] really is a simpler and straight-forwarder design too.
My first incarnation of EKP was a simple monolithic kernel and if I stuck with it I would be already porting GNU CC to it. Alas, my curiosity led me astray down the path of micro- and exo-kernels, so instead I am filling my garbage can with flawed designs.
Am I the only one who thought about putting together a cheap mini-ITX system, dropping the 2Watt model in, dressing the box up as something non-descript and totally not-computerific, configuring the system to play DI.FM's trance channel and dropping the whole contraption off in some non-descript closet in a forgotten office with a nearby LAN jack??
Did I claim that installing Slackware on derelict hardware makes for "geek cred"? Did I claim to be a "geek?" I am not a "geek." Following instructions like a good little trained ape and installing Slackware doesn't classify for any credentials. What did you do when/your/ kernel didn't recognise the hard-drive? I know what I did, I hacked it so it would.
Yes, Richard M. Stallman is a very opinionated guy. Thats just how visionaries are. As a visionary he is very good, unlike the dorques who keep proclaiming "200X will teh year of the Lo0nix." And unlike the soap-box material over at Wired, he made his mark on the world. He created the FSF, the GPL and a ton of software you likely use. Please tell me, ThJ, what contributions have you made so far that give you +v to claim Stallman as "obsessed" "overdramatic" and "harming more than helping?" Harming? Don't make me laugh. He created that which you claim he is harming. Of course you're not the only one who thinks that RMS doesn't belong. A thousand years ago you wouldn't be the only one thinking the world was flat too.
BSD style licenses are about giving greedy and uscrupulous individuals and companies a free hand to your code - getting code free and ripe for the taking, and no provisions for commiting back any changes to the community that wrote the code. This rougly means that any company can take BSD licensed code, make some changes to it to "improve" on the original, make a fast buck and leave the original developers in the cold. Oh..and... keep their changes locked in a vault until the end of the world.
Microsoft claimed network stability and security in Windows 2000. Gee, I wonder if that was due to the TCP/IP stack and user-land utilities they filched off BSD? How did this help BSD again?
When you lose that programming job, after having been forced to train your outsourced replacement who will be getting 1% of your wages, and won't be able to find another programming job for reasonable wages - please come back and tell us more about how outsourcing creates more jobs here in the US.
In fact it does the opposite, with the "accidental" side-effect of down-the-toilet quality of software banged-out in those sweatshops abroad.
I miss the 90s. I really do miss the times when GNU+Linux wasn't "hip" and "cool" and was restricted to that niche of serious computer scientists, hackers and tinkerers who never saw the light of day. Whenever I mention Linux now I get verbally assaulted with inane banter by lusers who, 10 years ago, would be clamoring over the "coming innovation" of Windows '95. Often times, an idiot tries impressing me by telling me how awfully hard it was for him to install Fedora Core, but that he succeded and still hasn't wiped it from his disk to go back to masturbating over Windows XP. Likely expecting some newfound sense of respect for him from me, he does listen to me recalling six years ago, when I had forced my own Slackware-derived distro to boot up on an IBM PS/2 m55 (2.9 MB of RAM, 60mb ESDI harddrive on MCA, Microchannel architecture, 386+387 16mhz). Then he looks down on the ground, and promptly leaves, never again making eye contact with me and ridding me of his stupidity...
Thus its really pretty good that SDL and OpenGL have Python, Perl and Ruby bindings. There you go - simple languages which are really easy to use to prototype/hack-together small inconsequential things.
AGP for all intents and purposes, is essentially a hacked PCI bus. AGP 1x was just a differently-shaped PCI slot.
Its actually a GOOD thing the driver doesn't try to set FW automagically. I had a P3 with some shitty iNtEl chipset freeze if you tried that so, Thank God (TM)
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Why? Planning on playing Doom3 with your 2.2 or 2.0 kernel???
ALSA is to stay. OSS is gone. Alsa is not going anywhere.
Well, half the instructions on that page are instructions to get out of X (hint: hard to update X-Server parts while in X. Besides you should be dropping down into single-user mode (telinit 1) for ANY maintenance done to box). Looking at the remainder... you obviously have your "run the NVIDIA script," as well as a couple of quirks due to Redhat braindeadness (hey! lets break as much shit as possible! udev is *NOT* for public consumption!). Oh - and one step is redundant (modprobe nvidia), as the DRM-part of the Nvidia driver will do that if it isn't loaded.
Anyways, thats exactly why there are many different distros. If RedHat was the only Linux distro, I'd already run FreeBSD.
Please DO elaborate on the inherent abilities of Windows to yield "better performance." Is there some special NtXXXXXXX or ZwXXXXXXX call that automagically increases your intelligence level too?
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First I need a soldering iron that can be used for finer work than soldering pots :-)
A mouse on your modem huh, how qute. There is no real need to be an ass you know, especially if you screw up in your post anyways. Should I go "BZZZT, try again" as well?
Well, here it is.
BZZZT, try again. The PeeCee didn't have any use for that mouse back in '83, while the ST at least had a coherent GUI and OS. Besides, who gives a flying f^Hduck? The mouse conceptualized from the Xerox PARC project. They were the first. Everyone feel better now? Look, they'll be those who will keep on ranting about the 1-button since well... thats all there is to rant about. Frankly, I don't get what the problem is. The interface is FULLY usable with the stock mouse. Yes, I prefer my optical 3-button mouse. Yes, I will use it with my Mini or iBook when I get it.
With the exception of f*@#@^-up un-PC hardware (yes, that includes YOU, Mr. Sony Vaio - although you are supported now too) and various odds-and-ends (such as cheapo WiFi cards), Linux has by FAR the most comprehensive hardware support when compared with Windows.
/PPC either. Heck, SATA support in Windows XP means scrounging for drivers on vendor-supplied floppy... what a joke. I laughed my ass off when my dad couldn't install XP on a SATA drive, but could install SuSE.
I was cleaning my room earlier this month and stumbled upon a pack of 5.25" floppies with data that goes back a WAY. Naturally, I wanted to see what was on the disks (and back them up on an almost as-ancient DDS device or CDRW). To my amazement, Windows XP refused to recognise the 5.25" half-height floppy OR the full-height 360K floppy. No such problems with Linux. Got an IBM PS/2 built around MCA bus and a SCSI or ESDI disk? Good luck with anything out of Redmond newer than WFW 3.11. And yet no problems with Linux - which has support for Microchannel, ESDI AND the quirky ESDI behavior found on my now-gone m55. I suppose I won't have to mention an old MFM drive OR non-IDE non-SCSI CD-ROM (yes, I needed a CDROM in a machine and this is all I had, rofl) - Linux 1, Windows 0. You don't even need to deal with obsolete or odd equipment to see that Linux kicks Windows where it hurts when it comes to hardware support. I have a PCI Adaptec UltraWide differential SCSI adapter that has NEVER worked under Windows XP. Never. Well, let me restate that. Windows refused to recognise the device most of the time. When it DID recognise it, it displayed the little exclamation sign next to the device name MOST of the time... and when it didn't, I received bluescreen STOP errors after light usage. NEVER had that problem with Linux. In fact, when I updated my PowerMac clone, I moved the adapter AND the 20Gb disk out of my Athlon machine, and it has no problems working with Linux
My motherboard is in the process of dieing from leaking caps :'(. I don't even bother looking at it anymore... I have leaking and bulging caps, and technically it could break at any second.
Damn.
Yeah.. Windows XP 32-bit edition has a "WINE" of sorts. Its called WoW. Yes, it works the same way as Wine. And they omitted it in XP 64-bit.
Interesting trivia...
The northbridge-CPU bus used on the Athlon is the EV6 bus... hailing from the EV6 DEC Alpha CPU.
Technically, it could be made to work. Just like Win'95, which ran in protected mode, could be made to use BIOS for disk access... so it would actually drop back into real mode, perform the operation, and go back. Yeah, it sucks.
There is really no good reason TO make it work. Unnecessary overhead... hell.. do you really want your kernel to constantly switch from 64 to 32-bit mode? Thats pretty expensive!
Speaking of your sig (Torvalds' email address.)
Linus Benedict Torvalds - torvalds@klaava.Helsinki.FI
Hey, you never said anything about his RECENT email address =P.
First of all its "Torvalds," and secondly, it wasn't easy in the sense of 'any dumbass can write one.' Plus, a more attractive development model (read: less philosophising about theory... HURD really is more like a research project) and a more practical 'lets get this weird device to work' approach led to the effective relegation of the HURD to the boondocks. It [Linux] really is a simpler and straight-forwarder design too.
My first incarnation of EKP was a simple monolithic kernel and if I stuck with it I would be already porting GNU CC to it. Alas, my curiosity led me astray down the path of micro- and exo-kernels, so instead I am filling my garbage can with flawed designs.
And as an afterthought... Have you even ever *tried* writing a kernel?
An operating system kernel is now "a simple project?" Especially one that breaches new territory in kernel design?
If HURD gets the vaporware award, then you get the dumbass award.
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Hehe, I love your sig.
Am I the only one who thought about putting together a cheap mini-ITX system, dropping the 2Watt model in, dressing the box up as something non-descript and totally not-computerific, configuring the system to play DI.FM's trance channel and dropping the whole contraption off in some non-descript closet in a forgotten office with a nearby LAN jack??
Might do wonders for improving music taste.
Did I claim that installing Slackware on derelict hardware makes for "geek cred"? Did I claim to be a "geek?" I am not a "geek." Following instructions like a good little trained ape and installing Slackware doesn't classify for any credentials. What did you do when /your/ kernel didn't recognise the hard-drive? I know what I did, I hacked it so it would.
Yes, Richard M. Stallman is a very opinionated guy. Thats just how visionaries are. As a visionary he is very good, unlike the dorques who keep proclaiming "200X will teh year of the Lo0nix." And unlike the soap-box material over at Wired, he made his mark on the world. He created the FSF, the GPL and a ton of software you likely use. Please tell me, ThJ, what contributions have you made so far that give you +v to claim Stallman as "obsessed" "overdramatic" and "harming more than helping?" Harming? Don't make me laugh. He created that which you claim he is harming. Of course you're not the only one who thinks that RMS doesn't belong. A thousand years ago you wouldn't be the only one thinking the world was flat too.
BSD style licenses are about giving greedy and uscrupulous individuals and companies a free hand to your code - getting code free and ripe for the taking, and no provisions for commiting back any changes to the community that wrote the code. This rougly means that any company can take BSD licensed code, make some changes to it to "improve" on the original, make a fast buck and leave the original developers in the cold. Oh..and... keep their changes locked in a vault until the end of the world.
Microsoft claimed network stability and security in Windows 2000. Gee, I wonder if that was due to the TCP/IP stack and user-land utilities they filched off BSD? How did this help BSD again?
When you lose that programming job, after having been forced to train your outsourced replacement who will be getting 1% of your wages, and won't be able to find another programming job for reasonable wages - please come back and tell us more about how outsourcing creates more jobs here in the US.
In fact it does the opposite, with the "accidental" side-effect of down-the-toilet quality of software banged-out in those sweatshops abroad.
Thats an interesting idea... it should be pretty trivial to add support for this to the drivers... and an appropriate IOCTL...
You're an idiot.
I miss the 90s. I really do miss the times when GNU+Linux wasn't "hip" and "cool" and was restricted to that niche of serious computer scientists, hackers and tinkerers who never saw the light of day. Whenever I mention Linux now I get verbally assaulted with inane banter by lusers who, 10 years ago, would be clamoring over the "coming innovation" of Windows '95. Often times, an idiot tries impressing me by telling me how awfully hard it was for him to install Fedora Core, but that he succeded and still hasn't wiped it from his disk to go back to masturbating over Windows XP. Likely expecting some newfound sense of respect for him from me, he does listen to me recalling six years ago, when I had forced my own Slackware-derived distro to boot up on an IBM PS/2 m55 (2.9 MB of RAM, 60mb ESDI harddrive on MCA, Microchannel architecture, 386+387 16mhz). Then he looks down on the ground, and promptly leaves, never again making eye contact with me and ridding me of his stupidity...
Press Ctrl-C to kill ISC's DHCP client, I have to do that everytime I forget to plug the TP cable into my Debian PowerMac-clone.
Thus its really pretty good that SDL and OpenGL have Python, Perl and Ruby bindings. There you go - simple languages which are really easy to use to prototype/hack-together small inconsequential things.
NVidia has a shiny configuration utility, y'know.
AGP for all intents and purposes, is essentially a hacked PCI bus. AGP 1x was just a differently-shaped PCI slot. Its actually a GOOD thing the driver doesn't try to set FW automagically. I had a P3 with some shitty iNtEl chipset freeze if you tried that so, Thank God (TM)
Why? Planning on playing Doom3 with your 2.2 or 2.0 kernel???
ALSA is to stay. OSS is gone. Alsa is not going anywhere.
Well, half the instructions on that page are instructions to get out of X (hint: hard to update X-Server parts while in X. Besides you should be dropping down into single-user mode (telinit 1) for ANY maintenance done to box). Looking at the remainder... you obviously have your "run the NVIDIA script," as well as a couple of quirks due to Redhat braindeadness (hey! lets break as much shit as possible! udev is *NOT* for public consumption!). Oh - and one step is redundant (modprobe nvidia), as the DRM-part of the Nvidia driver will do that if it isn't loaded.
Anyways, thats exactly why there are many different distros. If RedHat was the only Linux distro, I'd already run FreeBSD.
Please DO elaborate on the inherent abilities of Windows to yield "better performance." Is there some special NtXXXXXXX or ZwXXXXXXX call that automagically increases your intelligence level too?