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Wired's 2004 Vaporware Awards
l3pYr writes "Based on user submissions, Wired Magazine has posted its 2004 Vaporware Awards. Duke Nukem Forever has garnered the 'Lifetime Achievement Award,' so it doesn't - officially - make the list. Some of the lucky winners this year are: Alienware, Valve, Microsoft, Apple and TiVo."
Seriously. Does anybody actually use the beta/alpha version of it for anything? RMS has been promising it for such a long time.. especially after Linux took the GNU team by surprise.
For their lack of helping their customer with all their discontinued technologies (HPUX, PA-RISC, Alpha, Itanium workstations, Bluestone software)... I guess not really vaporware, since HP totally canceled them; but customers who originally bought stuff from them didn't really expect to be left out in the cold like that.
Where's my Atari 1450 XLD? Still waiting....
Don't blame Durga. I voted for Centauri.
Vaporware ..damn rt i still dont know what a TIVO does thats so different from any other service. :-)
Though they keep us hanging, Debian Sarge cannot be considered vapourware as Debian don't give release dates till they're good and ready.
(But I still want it now!)
Phoenix, Boston, Little Rock, see a pattern?
Taco did say they were working on wholesale changes, right? He's been musing about fixes and changes for years, yet this place looks EXACTLY the same as always.
At least get your damn pages complaint!
And on one page as well.
Save on pagination, view the printable version: http://www.wired.com/news/print/0,1294,66195,00.ht ml
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Vaporware Phantom Haunts Us All
By Leander Kahney
Story location: http://www.wired.com/news/culture/0,1284,66195,00. html
02:00 AM Jan. 07, 2005 PT
Year after year after year, tech companies promise spectacular products that twinkle and shine in demos and press releases, but slowly begin to fade and dim as the promised release dates near.
Welcome to the shadowy, spectral world of vaporware, a product purgatory where goods are promised, but not delivered.
Now in its eighth year, Wired News' annual Vaporware Awards celebrate all the wonderful gewgaws of 2004 that sadly never saw the light of day. And 2004 was a very good year for vaporware. A vintage year, indeed.
Not only were there plenty of vaporous products floating about -- several companies are fast heading for the hallowed halls of vaporware fame.
Companies like Valve, TiVo and 3D Realms Entertainment have been nominated year after year, sometimes for the same elusive product, sometimes for different wares. But one thing doesn't change: These tardy firms continue to over-promise and under-deliver.
Take 3D Realms, the (so-called) publisher of the long-awaited Duke Nukem Forever. After years of waiting, in 2003 we gave the company our Lifetime Achievement Award just to get it off the list.
Nonetheless, readers this year still sent in scads of votes for the AWOL product, so many it might have been the winner. Still, it's worth quoting some amusing barbs.
Readers dubbed the game Duke Nukem (Taking) Forever, Duke Nukem Neverever, Duke Nukem Whenever and Duke Nukem If Ever.
"NASA has planned, designed, developed and successfully landed a rover on Mars in the time this game has been in development," wrote reader Ray O'Neill. "So much for deadlines."
Adam Smith noted the game is a joke even to its own creators, who issued a spoof ship notice in December. "Obviously taunting the fans has become a great source of fun for the boys down at 3D Realms!" he said.
Sean Christmann said, "Duke Nukem is a legend now. It's gotten to the point where even if they do release the game, people might reject it simply to keep the vaporware lore alive."
We sent 3D Realms a note congratulating the firm for qualifying yet again for a Vaporware title, and invited it to submit a short victory speech. We haven't heard back. (We haven't heard from any of the other winners, either).
And so, based on the votes of Wired News' readers, here -- in reverse order -- are the bottom 10 vaporware products of 2004:
10. Alienware's Video Array
Alienware's Video Array is a high-end bit of hardware and software that allows video cards to run in parallel, dramatically boosting performance.
Or so the company says. Alienware promised the technology in Q4 2004. Needless to say, it's still off-planet.
Reader Adam Black said, "So, Alienware bashes Nvidia's SLI (a competing technology), then jumps on the bandwagon, and now their 'amazing' technology is nowhere to be found? I could have sworn Q4 2004 doesn't mean 2005!"
Sean Pelletier said, "They showcased at E3 this year that was supposed to crush Nvidia's SLI.... What a joke! It never showed up because it never worked!"
Trevor Fuller said simply: "Completely vapor."
9. Intel's Pentium 4 at 4 GHz
Intel was supposed to pump the Pentium 4 to 4 GHz in 2004. It fizzled at 3.8.
"I guess scaling to 10 GHz was BS from the spinmeisters after all," noted reader Mikko Ruskola. "Well, it sounded too good to be true anyway."
"Intel flopped on this one, and now in this category -- just like any other -- Intel is following AMD's lead," said Chad Meirose. "It is about time that AMD gets the public credit that they deserve, and Intel (who also makes great products) is shown for what they really are,
Seriously, the Slashdot visual design ranks among the best, except for that category that immitates the "Aqua" look of white letters on a very pale background (cannot be read). If you want very bad, go to aintitcoolnews.com To read that site, you need to copy and paste text into a text editor.
Don't blame Durga. I voted for Centauri.
I think it's fair for Apple to be on the list with the 3 Ghz claim, though they should have shared the honor with IBM. After all, Apple was just going off whatever they were told by IBM's R&D folks.
Somewhere, Microsoft programmers are spending their entire careers on a single piece of vaporware
That must be depressing...
But at least it's not as bad as Aintitcoolnews.
That site is arguably second only to IMDB when it comes to movie information, and it STILL looks like a geocities (are they even around anymore?) site.
#10 lists the product from Alienware that was supposed to be delivered in Q4 2004 (If I read it right). My question is this: How long must something be delayed to be considered vaporware? Obviously products like Duke Nukem and the Phantom qualify but what is the minimum amount of time needed?
Even if I was mistaken on #10 I still would like to hear what you all think.
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was n't that suppose to be out last year?
Wow another Wired news!! Wow they got that free subscription going to use eh!!
10. Alienware's Video Array
9. Intel's Pentium 4 at 4 GHz
8. Apple Computer's G5 Chips at 3 GHz
7. Team Fortress 2: Brotherhood of Arms
6. Gran Turismo 4
5. ATI's Radeon X800 series of video cards
4. TiVoToGo
3. Microsoft's Longhorn
2. CherryOS
1. Phantom Game Console
They're not really handing out any awards! They're just making it up!
One man's -1 Flamebait is another man's +5 Funny.
And this years price for the "Worst Article and Poor journalism" -award goes to... Wired!
Also special commendation on "How to build a website almost rivaling Geocities in how horrible it looks like" -award goes to Wired!
Apparently your product is now vaporware if it slips a quarter. I think by that definition every computer game I've ever played has at some point been vaporware...
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or the Son of God hanging dead and bloodied on a cross that told me this was a world condemned, but loved and bought with blood.
Also could be fit in the "vaporware" realm some of their claims, i.e. the "safe" feature is strongly attached to any of their products, be windows 95, internet explorer from the firsts versions, office, servers, etc).
WAAAA! Your promised me I could buy $piece_of_crap by Q4 2004. Its already January 7th of 2005! Oh, the humanity!! !IWANIT!!IW ANIT!!IWANIT!!IWANIT!!IWANIT!!IWANIT!!IWANIT!! /spoiled brat mode
IWANIT!!IWANIT!!IWANIT!!IWANIT!!IWANIT
who cares...
Where is the award for a default secure windows?
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The Alienware SLI is out, and it's been out for quite some time! It works great, too. It's just a bit pricey. Wired, get your stories straight!
I went to the movie theater to watch the 2nd Matrix movie the day it came out (so that tells you about the time it was) and there was a guy running Longhorn on his laptop. Me and an ECE friend of mine went over to ask him about it. He was raving how great it was and blah blah blah. My friend asked him, "So what's different about it, beside the GUI?" And this guy was like, "Um...it is just neat, and you don't have it." Cause it was without the new file system (which won't be on longhorn anyway) and without a ton of stuff. But it did look pretty...pretty confusing. Stuff was everyone. The desktop looked like a dumping ground. Taskbar at the bottom. Some kind of toolbar on the side, similar to Mac's toolbar at the bottom, and then some other media toolbar. Just cluttered. And so we asked him to show us some stuff. There was nothing. So I was thinking about it. All it really didn't have was the newest Media Player and the new file system. Well now you can download the newest media player and they aren't adding the new file system, so I guess in 2006, they will release basically the same version that guy had back two years ago. LOL!!
for not meeting their projected processor speed targets. Granted, they were over-hyped but the real reason they did not meet the targets is because both Intel and IBM ran into a lot of unforseen roadblocks when they went to 90 nm technology. I would hardly call that "vaporware".
Unlike Duke Nukem Forever, they were both going into uncharted waters, and it's really no surprise that they didn't make it to their destination as fast as they had wanted to....
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I think that copy protection scheme that said the CD "contained no Vapourware" shoud have been awarded something.
Hey, at least they DIDN't have Vapourware.
how long until
Why are the ATI X800 series cards considered vaporware? IF they are....what the hell is running HL2 in the computer then.
Of course the funny thing is, Tivo just announced TivoToGo's launch and I've got the updated server tool on my PC, ready and rarin' to go.
...maybe I spoke too soon about it not being vapor.
Of course, the nesc. software update still hasn't been pushed to my Tivo unit...
And I still have to buy a frellin third-party codec in order view the Tivo files on my comp...
Infinium Labs stock has been all over the place, was almost at 1.50 after rumors it would be displayed at MS and NVidia booths, now way down the past two days -- so is it really vaporware?
What is it about the unlucky version 4? Duke Nukem 4ever -- Elite 4(ever)? Maybe version 4 should be skipped entirely by software developers.
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The much-promised "new moderation system" we hear about every year in Taco's journals. ;)
I secretly think Duke Nuke 'Em has been waiting for the forthcoming Guns and Roses CD as it's soundtrack...I blame Axl...
WinFS surely would have deserved a mentioning on it's own. I mean, how long has MS been promising something like it? Wasn't it even supposed to ship with Win2000?
Maybe an other livetime achievement award is necessary.
...is to be showcased at MacWorld San Francisco next week, at ATI's own booth (#2217). Personally I'm more anxious to see it that all the alleged "headless eMacs" and "80G iPods". I'm not sure if you can call it vaporware, it was rather a product that missed its deadline for a couple of weeks (and since it was mid-December, availability was delayed to early January).
For the CherryOS award, the Wired article stated:
In October, a hitherto-unknown Hawaiian company, Maui X-Stream, rocked the tech world with news of CherryOS, a Mac emulator for Windows PCs that supposedly ran wicked fast and cost only $50. The software was offered as a download, but the stampeding hordes of closet Apple lovers at Slashdot crashed the servers before anyone could get it.
I resent being called a closet Apple lover....I am in fact a flaming Apple lover.
Having done so much with so little for so long, I now can do anything with nothing at all.
DN4 would be nice, but I'm still waiting for a *working* copy of BattleCruiser 3000 AD.
Working being the operative word here.
There are 01 kinds of cars in the world. The General Lee, and everything else.
Alienware CPU with Intel Pentium 4 4GHz, 2 ATI X800 video cards with Alienware Video Array enabled, running Microsoft Longhorn bundled with Duke Nukem Forever & Cherry OS (Capable of emulating Power PC G5 3GHz) will be available shortly* in computer stores near you...
*) Time is relative
P.S.: There are rumours that if you buy two, you will get the Phantom console for free.
I'm still waiting for The Secret of Vulcan Fury. Okay so they put the Trekies out out our misery and cancelled it, but still, this looks better than any old dumb Duke Nukem.
What if it is just turtles all the way down?
They were *really* stretching to get this list to 10 ... I guess things are pretty good in the world of vaporware given the bottom 3.
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Okay, these are both a little late, but isn't it a little unfair to call them vaporware? I mean, we can expect to see them eventually (at least the 4MHz CPU), and a delay of about 3 months is nothing like the delay we've suffered waiting for the Phantom. They wouldn't have qualified for these awards if their release date was Q2, and they just came out. Surely an annual award should wait for at least most of a year for a delay.
Seems to me that giving a vaporware award to something due out in Q4 2004 is a bit harsh. "Shit happens".
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Kast year was AmigaOS 4 vapourware number 9. This year there is still no release of the new OS for Amiga, but it is not on the list anymore.
When Amiga can not even produce vapourware, the legend is gone.
Maybe version 4 should be skipped entirely by software developers.
A Japanese word for "four" is shi, which sounds like the word for "death". Japanese fear of four seems to parallel American fear of thirteen, where American casinos often do not offer any gambling on the unpopular thirteenth floor of a building.
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Okay, so this is technically 2005 and the awards were for 2004.
They were promised - and no one's seen them!
No sig for you.
How long does it really take to make a 3d game when you're using someone elses engine?! First, it was supposed to use the Quake 2 engine. Then it switched over to the Unreal engine. It must have switched again because the Unreal engine is ancient by any standard.
My guess is that the owners of 3D Realms have enough money where they just don't give a rat's ass.
Does anyone here actually work for 3D Realms?! What's going on over there?!
If someone says he and his monkey have nothing to hide, they almost certainly do.
Criticizing the design would be better done in a kind of "suggestion box" or, perhaps, by emailing the designers. The people who complain about it in the forums seem to be under the delusion that the Slashdot designers/maintainers meticulously read every comment of every article.
He wasn't complaining to the designers, he was complaining to the rest of us. We have no means to fix it, all we can do is find a better alternative. He didn't suggest one.
"Then did St. Steve raise on high the Holy G5 of Cupertino, saying, 'Bless this, O Lord, that with it thou mayst blow thine Dell enemies to tiny bits, in thy mercy.' And the people did rejoice and did feast upon the renderings of lambs and toads and tree sloths and fruit bats and orangutans and lickable icons.... Now did the Lord say, 'Thou in 12 months, thou must count to three. Three shall be the number of the GHz and the number of the GHz shall be three. Four shalt thou not count, neither shalt thou count two-point-five, excepting that thou then proceedeth to three. Five is right out. Once the number three, being the number of the GHz, be reached, then thine will be great and powerful in my sight, however if thou shall have more than one button on thou mouse, who, being naughty in my sight, shall snuff thine's life.'"
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Would anyone find it ironic if Wired hyped their vaporware awards for an entire year and didn't come out with one that year?
Did we just slashdot whereisphantom.com through Wired?
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Uhm, OS4 beta is available to the public now. So is an update. And so is a second update as of December. So while it's not a "final" release, the public beta is being used by people who have an AmigaOne motherboard. (PowerPC CPU, PCI, AGP, USB, PS.2 keyboard/mouse, etc)
So with normal people not in the private beta program using AmigaOS 4 now, it may not qualify for this list anymore? I'm not sure what the nitty gritty details of public beta vs final release are...
Did the article submitter even RTFA?! Valve was NOT a winner this year... obviously Half-Life 2 shipped in Q4 2004.
I think the author puts the blame of CherryOS being vapourware on the shoulders of Slashdotters as evident in this statement.
The software was offered as a download, but the stampeding hordes of closet Apple lovers at Slashdot crashed the servers before anyone could get it.
Congratulations folks for contributing!
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Besides the MLM spams, arent persistant rumors of a $150 iPod? The mini came in a pricey $250. Now there are rumors of keychain size iPod at next weeks MacWorld.
http://www.pricegrabber.com/search_getprod.php/mas terid=2694795/search=ati%20x800
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What about the SCO Group's evidence that Linux contains Unix source code?
After nearly two years and Darl McBride's claims of "mountains of code" you'd think they'd have shown something by now.
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is the second coming of Jesus Christ.
1,900 years behind the original schedule, man.
What the fuck?
Irritable, left-wing and possibly humorous bumper stickers and t-shirts
Anyone can throw a computer in a pretty case and call it by whatever name they want -- the big deal is the price point they claim to be able to deliver (similar to a console, which MS already did with the XBox), and the concept of a 'subscription' (with a delivery mechanism) for games.
Showing a physical unit off at the CES is like showing a MMORPG without any multi-user support -- it might look pretty, but it's missing the core feature that's supposed to make it special.
Build it, and they will come^Hplain.
Your proposal is acceptible.
Don't blame Durga. I voted for Centauri.
What about the "object oriented filesystem" that Microsoft was to release in Cairo, about 1996.
And had been rehashed in WinFS, now due Q42006.
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The whole controversy was that it's a copy of (the very real) PearPC. Even if CherryOS never gets released, PearPC still exists. The ones who thought it was vapor are totally clueless. Like this guy:
>We will probably see a cure for death before we see
>a true platform emulator," said Tony Lunde. "It's still
>a pretty interesting idea, though."
Where do they find these people?
How about Cairo, the be-all-end-all everything's-a-relational-database now-it's-winfs now-it's-not information-at-your-fingertips OS from Microsoft? Jim Allchin has tried (and failed) to build this thing many, many times. Since WinFS has been dropped as a Longhorn feature, it looks like it's still not time for Cairo...
I wonder why SCO didn't make the list with its claims of infringing code in Linux.
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"6. Gran Turismo 4"... oops!p hp?aid= 6178
http://www.gamesindustry.biz/content_page.
Shipped Dec. 28th in Japan and sold 620,000 units in one week.... Vapor no more.
Expect 2 versions of Gran Turismo.
1.) The regular new gran turismo version. Probably won't make it in March 2005, I'd say May.
2.) The online version in 2006.
They are milking it for money.
I dual boot my Phantom Console with Longhorn and CherryOS. I also play Duke Nukem Forever on it every day. Vaporware Shmaperware! Those guys at Wired just don't know where to shop.
How ya like dat?
I've seen it used. Google sysrq and you fill find plenty of things that use it.
Don't blame Durga. I voted for Centauri.
What is this?
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Do I actually have to RTFA to see this award list or what!?
What has
"Oh, a lesson in not changing history from Mr I'm-my-own-Grandpa." - Dr Hubert Farnsworth
In October, a hitherto-unknown Hawaiian company, Maui X-Stream, rocked the tech world with news of CherryOS, a Mac emulator for Windows PCs that supposedly ran wicked fast and cost only $50. The software was offered as a download, but the stampeding hordes of closet Apple lovers at Slashdot crashed the servers before anyone could get it.
In the july Macworld, steve jobs showed everyone the slide from a year ago promissing 3 ghz. He said IBM was having trouble creating faster chips, but they were getting faster, just they were behind schedule.
Then he some convoluted explaination that they were getting faster at a faster rate %wise than intel which was a confusing statement since both chip makers increased speed by the same # of mhz..
Oh well..
They claimed no processor company hit their promised speed. Ours did.
We promised a 2GHz MIPS chip, and we not only hit it, we passed it almost immediately with a 2.5GHz MIPS. With a fast math processor built in.
Unfortunately, the market didn't care. 8^(
But we made our promised speed *and* release date.
So Intel, Apple, and Wired can all kiss my giga til it hertz!
Well, looks like they have come up with a plan to make money other than actually releasing software: selling baby doll shirts and hot pants. Or maybe selling click-thru's of people looking at their shirts and shorts on hard-nippled Maui babes--I can't tell...
I think they missed something very key. The other big (in my opinion... the true #1) is the proof that SCO supposedly has and keeps promising to show the world about the Unix code in Linux. They managed to start lots of lawsuits and even gained a few licensees. However, on numerous occasions they promised to "show the proof", yet they have yet to do so. We're coming up on year three and to date, no one has seen any damning code... not even those that signed the NDA.
9. Intel's Pentium 4 at 4 GHz
Intel was supposed to pump the Pentium 4 to 4 GHz in 2004. It fizzled at 3.8....
8. Apple Computer's G5 Chips at 3 GHz
Intel's in good company. Nobody hit the chip speeds they promised. In June 2003, Apple CEO Steve Jobs said IBM's G5 chips would be at 3 GHz within 12 months. It's been 18.
Ok, now why did they put Apple higher on the list than Intel? Intel has a far broader market reach, and Apple is dependent upon IBM for their chips. Intel is dependent on Intel. Doesn't seem fair, does it? Doesn't seem fair to Apple, does it?
Holy shit. Did I just write that? Was that me? Well folks, I think it's time to go chew on a shotgun barrel. I hereby bequeath my G5 to that stripper at Baby Doll's who really liked me. Maybe she can perform with it.
Oh man, now look at that last sentence... My sexual fantasies are involving G5s. Fuck this. Off with my head.
Is there really anyone who cares that TF2 didn't come out? And a better questions still is how many people now doubt that TF2 was a way to cover for HL2?
And don't get me wrong, TFC was neat but eh.... once I played CS TFC was a POS.
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3D Realms, to my knowledge, is not activly advertising DNF anymore. Now, they have not officially canceled it, but seeing as how it's not really being promoted (like the Phantom) I think it's moved away from vaperware and into the forgottenware catagory.
Hey, they were sure they could beat Bush.
We can also add Saddam's WMDs to the list.
It's good to use your head, but not as a battering ram.
The #1 prize should go to somebody who actually profited from nonexistent software that was allegedly written by somebody else a long time ago and has no current market value in the first place!
michael sims - he may not like what you have to say, so he will not defend your right to say it.
What's this then? Title of the article "Phantom console spotted in Snow City."
http://www.theinquirer.net/?article=20585
What's keeping the Duke Nukem Forever company in business? Has it been forever since they released a title?
Duke Nukem: "Forever"
...is the second coming of Jesus Christ.
:-)
To me, the thought of one less sequel in the world sounds pretty good.
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This 'digital 35mm film cartridge' was originally mentioned in 1997, for a 1998 debut. It made the Wired list two (or maybe three?) years. Now it's seven years later, and you STILL can't buy it, although the company STILL claims it exists.
This should be the first to get a lifetime award, ahead of Duke Nukem.
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Phantom missed the title of first on demand service by at least 20 odd years.
Despite the fact that Wired Magazine's online content is located at www.wired.com/wired/, these are different publications. Wired News is owned by Lycos, Inc. Wired Magazine is owned by The Condé Nast Publications Inc.
It's a bit like confusing Time and High Times.
Someone please mod the parent article up.
Damn I wish I had mod point more often.
Speak truth to power.
As a proud, forlorn Canadian, the most tragic piece of vaporware (or vapourware) is this year's NHL Hockey season.
Bring back Don Cherry, I can't talk to my wife any longer!
Thanks for the link!
I am happy to see that there will be big stupid icons in 90 billion colours wasting all the space, with the things you want to get at somewhere off the side of a scrollbar.
Way to go!
Which iteration of the gui is this?
They whose government reduces their essential liberties for temporary security, receive neither liberty nor security.
It wound up becoming this movie instead.
No, because that would naively assume that anything that can be demoed is a real, functioning piece of software.
A tremendous amounts of 'demo' software are nothing but hard-coded sales-tools which have NO WORKING PARTS and no commonality with the claimed product.
If I get to sit in front of it and push it buttons, it might exist. If a salesman pushes the buttons and tells me to ignore the man behind the curtain and that it'll be ready to ship/be built real soon the demo is nothing more than a stage show.
Screen shots are in the same category unless someone wathced the shots being gathered from running software. I've seen marketing glossies for UIs which have never been coded.
Never underestimate the unethical nature of people.
Lost at C:>. Found at C.
Is there some sort of secret republishing deal whereby Slashdot carries two Wired stories a day?!
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"Gigli" is not the easiest to spell, and the first movie I thought of, but I don't think it qualifies as "so bad, it's good."
And here's your one ticket buyer "MovieWatcher" as quoted on www.netflix.com:
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seriously, i dont give a shit about games, how about real tech that didnt happen? not everyone lives and dies by gaming hype and more hype. i want my flying cars.
ahhhh..... debian
sid is like that new hottie you have to have ( even though it always ends in disaster ) but nobody keeps you happier than sarge ( except for the occasional mood swings ) but at the end of the day you have to go back to woody ( damn its old ).
p.s- i swear to god i am not gay
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They can take Gran Turismo 4 off of that list. It made it out (in Japan) on December 28th, 2004. I've been playing it like nobody's business since that date, and it really was worth the wait. When played with the GT Force Pro, it's a very realistic driving experience. I drive an Evolution VIII in real life, and the one in the game behaves very much like the one I own. It's not perceft, of course, but as a console simulation that also has to emulate the physics of over 600 cars it's pretty impressive.
.9G, but it wasn't registering.
People hailed GT3 for its realism, but compared to 4 GT3 was nothing in terms of physics! Actually, I think GT4's realistic physics are going to hurt it for the casual gamer....I let some friends play it and each and every one of them would plow into the wall like a sled because the brakes lock up very easily and the cars all tend to understeer. I tried to get them to learn to use the G meter at the bottom of the display, and explain to them that most roadgoing cars with performance tires start to skid at around
The addition of the G-meter is a ery smart one, since gaming still can't duplicate the feel of cornering forces. For what it is, it's a simple, eeasy to read tool that helps immensely as long as you understand basic physics of driving.
DNF = Did Not Finish
Gran Turismo 4 [JP/Asian release] shipped on 12/28/04
You can buy it at http://www.ncsx.com/ and other online importers.
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The web site they referenced: http://www.whereisphantom.com Seems to be suffering the /. effect... (It still pings)...
/. readers linking to that site brought it down?
Can it be that thousands of
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Anyone remembers those bozos?
I wonder how Wired forgot about them!
The two press releases that shook the world:
http://www.specopslabs.com/publicity.htm
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Alienware slips by one quarter and they get on the list, but Voom has been promising me the uber DVR for almost a year with no follow through and there is no mention at all?
I demand a recount!
I LOVE the Voom service, as any real geek would, but that DVR needs to roll out already!
-Tom
A major news source calling a product that is in progress and likely to be forthcoming, but is still in the tweaks stage "vaporware" is not only misleading, it's downright harmful! It shakes consumer confidence and cheapens the brand name, it spreads rumors and jokes on Slashdot. It can affect the company's other products, keep merchandisers wary and even cause stock prices to drop. It's not slander... But it's in the ballpark.
At least half of the examples on the list will see the light of day in the very near future, and at least one (Tivo2Go) was released this week. Guess what, a projected release date is just a estimate-- things change, the market changes, bugs have to be worked out. That doesn't mean the project is smoke-and-mirrors.
Back in Dec 27th 2000, Wired listed "A new linux kernel" (iirc, that's how they put it) in #4. They were, I suppose, referring to v2.4 which came out, humm, 7 days later, in Jan 4th.
So, they've just done it again with TiVo ToGo (or however it is spelled) and GT4, which has been launched in Japan. Besides, there was even a teaser game out for some time, GT4 Prologue (featuring one tenth of the final game choice of cars, etc.).
Keep on rocking in the free world
...even the FAQ on Infinium's website is "Coming Soon!" It should probaly read: FAQ1: When will your product be released? http://phantom.net/products/faq.asp
"If it is just us, seems like an awful waste of space." -- movie: Contact
December 2003: Intel To Produce Cheap LCoS Chips
August 2004: Intel Delays TV Chip Launch
October 2004: Intel Cancels LCOS Development
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Where's the 'ANY' key? I see Esk, Kitarl, and Pig-Up...
Was supposed to come out in '97. 8 damn years. Bounced all over the dev world. I think a stake has been driven through its heart this time.
How did Metro3d get left out? Poor folks have been waiting since the age of the dreamcast for Armada 2 to be released, only to have every promised release date broken.
Last release dates were on November 2, 2004, then the 15th, and finally December 31st.
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Why doesn't /. have a "suggestion box"???!!!
the preceding comment is my own and in no way reflects the opinion of the Joint Chiefs of Staff
"Fab"'s like "Tab", but you put it in your dishwasher instead of drinking it.
An overview of the never-into-production 1450XLD.
"Obviously, Microsoft won't be able to finish the code until it's had a peek at Apple's forthcoming Tiger."
The innovation of Brand X continues! But perhaps Bill and Monkey Boy haven't noticed that developers-developers-developers aren't phlocking to OSX in droves.
"Bill Restemeyer suggested it be renamed "Longwait." "
But along with the traditional and now defunct announcements from Microsloth about things seen at ADG (that strangely were never released by Apple but sometimes got into Windows), the Microsloth press release always comes before market evaluation, need, or infinite number of redmond monkies.
"The company also cut a core feature, a new "revolutionary" file system called WinFS."
C'mon. Access as an FS! Hasn't everyone wanted a quasi relational database as their FS? I know ever time I want to look for a file in Doz I ask myself, "Hmm... maybe it would be faster if I typed in a 5 line SQL script."
SELECT FILE_NAME FROM ALL_FILES WHERE FILE_NAME = 'FUD.TXT'
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I still want my virtual reality helmet.
1. Bombardier Embryo (the cool 1-wheel Segway - expected release 2015) ;)
2. The Elder Scrolls IV: Oblivion ("not earlier than end of 2005")
3. New release of stable Debian branch. (I don't think any date was given)
4. GNU/HURD. Nuff said.
5. TESA-ROM (1TB storage on a roll of duct tape.)
6. "the new Amiga"
7. Moon Base (the schedule was 2005: Orbital station, 2010: Moon base, 2025: Mars base)
8. Peace in Kosovo...?
9. Working DRM (luckily...)
10. Linux ready for Desktop.
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In the article they are talking about the X800 XT, not the X800 Pro. My friend has a X800 Pro, so it's hardly vaporware. However, anyone got a X800 XT? Are they really on to something or just did poor research? I know they are pretty damn rare and don't know anyone with one(which hardly proves anything), but vaporware?
Later? The gospels are not the earliest texts in the NT. Paul wrote his epistels long before the gospels were written down. There is no proof that the gospels existed in the first century. (Paul btw. didn't even write anything about the earthly Jesus as a person. He was much more a pagan than a jew and for him, christ was some kind of cosmic vehicle for god to get in contact with men. But that's my interpretation here) Since christians of the first century didn't care about written narration and prefered oral tradition and personal spiritual inspiration, pre-gospel christians may really have not believed in an immediate rapture, but not for the reasons you cite. The whole idea of the rapture was probably not really popular back then. Revelation, the book of the NT which is the basis of all upstart end-time sects, is dated 96AD.
The view that early christians believed in an immediate coming of christ is certainly not based on two quotes, but on various historical writings about christianity. There was no homogenous group of early christians anyway. Some were basically jewish sects, some believed in duality, some even performed self-castration, just as Jesus actually demanded in in the gospels. Some believed in the trinity, others didn't. The list goes on.
The texts that actually reamined in the NT were selected by the catholic church, which succeded the power-struggle among christian churches. Of the couple of dozen gospels that were around the remaining four were not selected based on scientific grounds, but because of ideological reasons. This means that the NT was not the set of texts, let alone oral traditions, that early christians had. It was filtered by those who didn't believe in an immediate second coming by the end of the 4th century.
So you see, it is more complicated than picking a couple of quotes to rationalize a position. This also shows how your approach is futile. You hold a complex, apolegetic interpretation and you furthermore assume that this was the way early christians interpreted it. But you don't know that and you can't show that based just a couple of biblical quotes.
You furthermore assume that biblical texts must present a consistent whole. This assumption is unfounded and therefore not allowed within a historic assessment about the beliefs of early christians.
Whoever wrote Mark 9:1 and Matthew 24:34 believed exactly what these quotes say, namely that Jesus will come back really really soon. Earlier texts saying something else doesn't usually bother religionists at all. Christians don't care about what the OT really says either. The Jesus of the gospels doesn't resemble a jewish messiah for example.
TmsT made a really nice flash movie based on the non existance of the game!
TmsT's Duke Nukem Forever
Not Interesting and NOT Informative....
Who mods these things anyway?
Of blankness, I know nothing.
Getting a +5 Funny replying to a +5 Funny...
Now THAT is Karma Whoring!
Given that Gigabyte used SLI on a single card to produce a one-slot dual-GPU card, Video Array could be used to double it again. Imagine a pair of dual 6800 cards. Shame it looks like there are about three peices missing from this puzzle.
I think the grand old man and "inventor" of vaporware needs to be summoned:
Derek, come out and tell me where's the manual to BattleCruiser Millenium. Slashdot crowd deserves your explanation.
Derek, I know you reading this!
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For those of you who don't know who he is:
Derek Smart is the author of BattleCruiser 3000ad, a game that coined the term vaporware. He first started to hype it in 1995 stating that it will be ready in a few months. Eventually a working version got out around 2001. In the mean time Derek participated in USENET's longest flame wars and tried to insult everyone. Hence, August 22. is Derek Smart Says F-ck You Day.
Dr. smart has also been active in other online forums. Here is one enlightening example from EvilAvatar.
For more information see: this intro or comp.sys.ibm.pc.games.strategic.
you forgot winfs. rofl.
My personal favorite piece of vaporware is currently The Fool and his Money. I pre-ordered in Jan 2003 for a Halloween release, and it keeps getting pushed back, now to mid-2005. The best part, and why this is really a favorite, is that Cliff has always made such good, actual Mac puzzle games that it makes me think the "game" here is actually getting the orders without shipping any software. The very title of the purported release practically mocks you about it! I swear, I get the biggest smile every time I get an email saying there is going to be another delay. Entertainment money well spent, I say. The Phantom Console isn't half as fun when it comes to vaporware gaming!
(Paul btw. didn't even write anything about the earthly Jesus as a person. He was much more a pagan than a jew and for him, christ was some kind of cosmic vehicle for god to get in contact with men.)
Are you kidding me? Paul was a Pharisee named Saul before his conversion on the road to Damascus, and his main priority was stomping out the new cult of Christianity in the name of Judaism. He was about as Jewish as they came during that time period.
...when from behind our computers we hear from the TV/from their brother yelling in the next room/from the streaming broadcast: "It's now official: Desktop Linux is here!"
D E/GNOME/Ratpoison/evilwm/twm screens and ask ourselves, "It's HERE?!? SO WTF have I been using all this time?!?" and proceed to uninstall our GUI-fied desktops and switch back to green-on-black. That's the equivalent of burying our heads in the sand. Your brother walks in and looks at the screen and says, Oh, you have it installed already?
We jerk our heads up from our fully functional Windowmaker/enlightenment/FVWM/blackbox/Fluxbox/K
WARNING: Smartphones have side effects--most of them undocumented.
So you see, it is more complicated than picking a couple of quotes to rationalize a position. This also shows how your approach is futile. You hold a complex, apolegetic interpretation and you furthermore assume that this was the way early christians interpreted it. But you don't know that and you can't show that based just a couple of biblical quotes.
You are guilty of the same thing. Unless you were alive during the 1st century AD. I see no proof of your statements.
Evidently the Phantom has made an appearance at the Microsoft booth at CES. According to Mike Hall's blog, it's running on WindowsXP Embedded.
Below is the text describing the system. There's also a nice picture posted there as well.
Next is the Phantom from Infinium Labs (Windows XP Embedded), this is quite an interesting device, I guess most people have XBOX's, Playstations, Nintendo Game Cubes or other dedicated game consoles - the Phantom plays PC games - a user gets offered a list of games (the Phantom supports all current and future Windows PC games according to the Infinium web site), the games are downloaded into the Phantom and then played on your TV set - since these are PC games you control the games through a keyboard and mouse - the keyboard/mouse being displayed with the Phantom on the Microsoft booth has an interesting "Lap" console for the keyboard and mouse - apparently it's quite comfortable to sit and play games using this.
How is this post insightful? The burden of proof is upon the one theologizing.
His father was a pagan. And how did he convert on the road to damascus? By a vision as he claims. He didn't actually meet Jesus on this road. This was after Jesus was allegedly cruzified. So what exactly do you think I am kidding you about?
The pagan influence is usually acknowledged by modern theologians. In fact I'm debating a theologian on another forum right now, who rejects paul altogether.
The claims by Paul that he was a learned pharisee is challenged by some scholars.
The Problem of Paul
Paul's Bungling Attempt At Sounding Pharisaic
Proof of which statements? I made three statements about the first century:
Paul wrote his epistels long before the gospels were written down.
There is no proof that the gospels existed in the first century.
Revelation, the book of the NT which is the basis of all upstart end-time sects, is dated 96AD.
early christians didn't care about written tradition Items number one and three are the views of traditional scholars. Even the most bible thumping southern baptist deacon will agree to these two. Just look at the Wikipedia entry about the New Testament
The burden of proof for item number two is not on my side.
Item 4 can be infered from the fact that even though christian churches existed and that they had written works (like the epistels of paul) only a couple of years after jesus allegedly lived, they didn't bother to write anything about jesus down until at least 69 AD. (69 AD is the optimistic dating usually given by traditional scholars for the gospel of mark) Here is an interesting writeup about the The Formation of the New Testament Canon (2000) by Richard Carrier, an atheist, which contains further support for item 4, if you are interested.
The claims I made about the existance of alternative gospels and that they were selected by the catholic church is again not controversial at all. Ask any catholic priest or consult the catholic encyclopedia. In fact, you can download some alternative gospels from the web. (The gospel of thomas for example) But these claims are not about the first century anyway.