I don't think I did miss your point. You tried to score a cheap point by pointing out that repositories also use those code names. You can probably think up some more things that do if you wish.
My point is that in the end, those names are meant to be completely hidden unless you go looking, which effectively means they will be for the developers use only. It's quite likely that if not today, someday soon, a user can enjoy several versions of Ubuntu without ever seeing or hearing those names. Thus, those are development names.
Not that I personally think the names are bad, I like them. It's so much nicer to say Breezy and Dapper instead of 5.10 and 6.06, feels much more personal.
That's right, noone except testers and developers should ever have to type that. Regular users should have no business being in that file (it isn't completely true yet, but that's "should" for you - they are getting there).
You can do it, if you want to switch from an earlier version manually and dist-upgrade, but if you wait for a CD instead, as a regular user can be expected to do, it will take care of this for you.
I am not sure if it's actually finished yet, but the update-manager is supposed to be able to handle dist-upgrades for you too just as it does updated packages. It will pop a nice notification and if you wish, take care of it for you. That's another "should" for you - maybe an internet upgrade today will force you to type that line, but the idea is that you should not have to, and the distribution is getting there.
What you are pointing out is wrinkles in a still very new and not yet completely polished operating system.
When you use a closed format, you are shutting someone out. That's more or less the definition, why would it be closed if it wasn't to keep someone out of it?
Now, why would you - you, not some corporation, but you, personally - want to shut anyone out?
Ok, so it's unlikely to happen anyways - but if one were to toy around with the thought that Macs would rise to take a significant portion of the operating systems used, what would that mean? Not much, from my point of view. It would just mean new vendor lock-in, and probably even worse interoperability as the Apple specific formats become more common. While today WMA, DOC, XLS and PPT are enough trouble, we'd add AAC, CWK, SIT and what have you to the list. DRM will be just as common and prevalent (witness Fairplay and iTunes).
I'll readily admit that I don't know much about Macs and the formats that are used, maybe most are or are becoming open - I just know that every so often I get a file I can't open from a Mac user (yesterday, an AppleWorks file was the most recent). It was the same when I used Windows, so apparently little has changed over the years. That I can open MS files is just because the community has been so hard at work deciphering the formats and reimplementing them. If Apple becomes any more common, the community possibly would have to start over.
The way that Apple has handled any open source connections to their OS and other products quite clearly shows that they only want to take advantage of it, not contribute back [1][2][3]. While open standards and open source is not the same thing, and standards is IMO more important, they share a lot of common attributes and philosophy behind. I don't think Apple is interested in either.
It's quite possible that Apple makes a great OS, and great hardware, but it is also quite clear that they are just as predatory and monopolistic as ever Microsoft - they just haven't had the numbers to make the same impact. And I couldn't care which vendor tries to lock me hard to their platform and their DRM, it's all bad in either case. Until Apple decides to play fair with the rest of the world I won't be thinking any better of them than I do MS - being the underdog does not excuse bad behaviour, nor does "but they are doing it".
Being pragmatic to me does not only mean "use what works" it also means looking at what "will work" - and what will continue to do so.
(PS, I can't get a new, open format copy of the cwk file I received until the end of April due to vacations - anyone know of anything that can read this format on a Linux system? Thanks. DS)
It doesn't anymore, and the Wine guys said long ago that they will not waste their time playing catch up. But here's a little nugget from the latest newsletter; Microsoft mentioning Wine in their Genuine Advantage FAQs.:)
This long post is relevant to today's article because many OO languages still have objectStore methods that save the internal state of the object to disk.
Indeed they do, but things are perhaps getting better. Ruby, for instance, is switching to use YAML for this, a standard that is open, human-readable and terse, the two latter much more so than for instance XML. YAML has features specifically designed to allow object persistance for any language as well as persistance of any data.
It works nicely without creating lock-in problems. Any language with a YAML parser (and most have one by now) can get at the data easily, and even without the YAML specification it's usually obvious how the data should be read just from looking at it.
Avoid AA-type pseudoreligious programs. They have been proven not to work (no flames, please, go google the study yourself).
Yeah, I think I better! I am not involved in it myself, not having that kind of problem, but I know lots of people, some close (as in family), that has been helped and alcohol/drug free for many years thanks to AA and NA.
Now I have to call these people up and tell them that someone on Slashdot told me about a study I could search Google for that in fact proves that it didn't work.
Maybe you should Google for some success stories and see if there might be two sides to a story? Maybe this rumoured study of yours was asked for, maybe even financed by someone with another idea? There's a lot of benefits to being viewed as a succesful curator of these kinds of illnesses (as proven by the fact that the scientologists are recruiting that way). And studies have a long history in almost any subject of proving and counter-proving almost anything.
In short, I don't know shit about what program is the "best", but I've seen AA work and work well, even though it does seem a bit too religious for my taste.
Have to agree here - at the same time as I do get more and better applications to play with, the machine actually performs better for each update. The whole last 6 months (one release period) for Gnome has seen a lot of focus on improving speed and it shows when comparing for instance Breezy and Dapper.
OTOH, I guess MS is driving the hardware industry forward too, which is not all bad.
May I ask in what way? I recently bought a DiNovo media keyboard + laser mouse with bluetooth, and it was just plug and play. Insert USB stick, instantly use keyboard, mediapad and mouse. Friend of mine is syncing phone with calendar and used Skype via bluetooth headset.
I'm sure there are plenty of other things it should do and doesn't, as I know very little about bluetooth, but it worked fine for what I tried.
Getting all mouse buttons to work properly has finally also become realtively easy thanks to the evdev driver, but there is still lots and lots of work to be done with telling X to stop meddling in the affairs of the kernel.
It's true. You should only (be allowed to) use it if you are going to reinstall the system soon anyways and if you promise to never ever ask for support after running it.
That said, the very fact that the script exists means that there is demand for solutions to these things, but I'd rather see a real solution instead of a system trashing hack. It may be ok for Windows users to reinstall when the system gets too old, but Debian-based systems are supposed to be "install once, update forever". Automatix breaks this, often irreversibly (at least to non-experts).
I've had at least one very non-techie customer in a project working with us remotely via TortoiseSVN and that worked just fine. It's by no means as good as it could be (for this use), but if you can set it up for them and explain Commit and Update, you are probably set.
Note: this post is not necessarily directed at parent.
Paraphrasing an Apple-related sig as seen on Slashdot: "It's not PostgreSQL I hate, it's the PostgreSQL users".
First off, any product that turns it's users into the fanboy crowd as seen on Slashdot (or in fact, anywhere) anytime Mysql is mentioned must be dangerous in some way. Secondly, any product that needs that kind of cheering and propaganda must have something to hide. Thirdly, I do not want to identify with that kind of rabid fanboyism, no matter if it is well-founded or not.
If you guys would just try to tone it down a notch and wipe the foam from your lips, maybe we would be willing to listen. Attacking the competition - especially in the words and tone the PG crowd usually use - is bad marketing and it is only counter-productive.
Especially when the said Mysql user can't identify themselves with your list of flaws. Oh, I'm sure the list is valid - but I've never been bitten by any of the issues. Maybe because I program in a certain way, maybe because of the libs I use or maybe because they are mostly theoretical flaws - I don't know, but listen now, because I'm gonna repeat myself: I have never been bitten by any of the Mysql issues you PG people like to bring up.
It's very good to see that the Linux crowd mostly have learnt this - I'm a happy Linux-only user and I feel proud of that, especially as the blatant Windows bashers are so few and mostly kids anyways. Even though I feel those have much more of a case, personally.;-)
Focus on the good stuff, promote the strengths, outdo instead of attack the leader, behave civilized. In short, grow up. And I might be happy to apply for a membership one day.:)
Well, it does behave that way for Firefox + Download window + Epiphany (had to use that because Nautilus loads too fast in the new develoment snapshots of Ubuntu).
On the other hand, doing the same thing with OpenOffice.org, OO comes up on top of them all, though the splash gets hidden behind. So it may be at least partly application based, but then I think that the window manager isn't doing its job according to my wishes. I'm sure that its not only OOo either.
How does OOo do for you? Would be nice to know where the bug lies, so it could be fixed.
I'm used to it...this is after all Slashdot, where everything iTunes, no matter how restrictive, is good and anyone who suggests otherwise is just deluded or stupid.
You see, cheap shots go both ways.
You think that I'm narrowminded because I don't think any DRM is good, while I in fact have pretty good reasons for this. I think that Apple and RIAA want to lull people into thinking that DRM is a good thing before they crank it up a notch. In the end of the tunnel is Trusted Computing, something which they both, together with others actively stand behind. I agree that Fairplay isn't *very* restrictive *today*, but it is restrictive and make no mistakes on who is the actual owner of your content no matter who pays, and make no mistakes on what your rights are or how locked you are to a platform. OTOH, you have bought into the concept and mindset and now you - like all humans would - seek to justify this by arguing that it's really good. That is just human psyche.
I, on the other hand think You are narrowminded - or maybe at least shortsighted for not even acknowledging any potential bad sides to buying into this. You have given up your Manhattan - your freedom - for a few shiny pearls, and maybe you don't deserve any more than that then. But you are selling your whole tribe, not only yourself.
That's programmable through the window manager, though. With my current setup of Gnome, if I launch a new program, it pops up in the background, rather than in front.
I haven't been able to make this work consistently - what steps do you take to make this work? I use a very recent GNOME on most desktops, in several cases latest development. Thanks.
On a side note, I think it should automatically work like this: If you launch a program and then do nothing - it should get focus. Otherwise it shouldn't. If I actively touch any other app, that should retain focus when the other app loads. That would be completely awesome. (URGENT hints are wanted still, of course, so there's notification). There is nothing more irritating than keystrokes suddenly being eaten by some other application. I specifically choose to start working in this other app, who are you to come distrurb me?
He didn't come with any argument and he didn't refute anything of mine - what he did was illustrate the knee-jerk reaction such a statement always yields from the ones who have already bought into the scam. It's a human, natural reaction - but it is not an argument.
In a way it's even sneakier though, as it teaches the public that DRM is ok. Just watch how many who otherwise claim to love freedom who readily defends it whenever the issue comes up. As soon as the mindset it firmly in place, there will be no problem rolling out worse and worse protections, until we have "Trusted Computing" telling you exactly where you want to go today.
Not to mention that this series is among the best books I've ever read, if not *the* best. People may call it perverted if they want, but then they focus on the actions committed and not what lies behind them - Donaldson is really good at describing people who are doing things out of their own personal - and believable - motives, what drives them. Often with bad or even catastrophic results because they were misinformed or misdirected. This is true for his other books as well, especially the Covenant series are great too.
The Gap is also interesting because it's based on The Ring of the Nibelung (I think) and explores the concept of obtaining and losing absolute power (with omni-corporation instead of omni-being) and the exploration of victim/villain/rescuer and how they trade roles with each other during the story. All in all it's a fantastic story.
The controls of the other browsers are not that arbitrary, at least they aren't anymore. They actually fit in good with the systems they use, in that the same combinations work in the rest of the applications on that same system. This is at least mostly true for IE on Windows, Epiphany on Gnome, Konqueror in KDE, Firefox on many platforms, and probably more. This extends to themes, look and feel, naming of menus (example: Firefox moves the Preferences entry between platforms to conform). All of this makes it easy for a user to find things and be effective, and the user will feel at home with the application.
Opera doesn't feel at home anywhere, as it does everything its own way. That's a bad thing no matter how useful the actual functions are.
And to those saying that users can remap their keys easily, well that is true but I user shouldn't have to - great defaults will make a user look twice. Almost all other browsers have good defaults.
It may not help, but it is a great start in many cases to file bugs for feature requests such as this, especially as you can provide use cases as well as specifications. I'd go file at OpenOffice at least, perhaps at KOffice and Abiword too. Also, it could pay off to file bugs for these kind of features at your distros local bug tracker, as the distros themselves have something to win from this and usually does local development that is forwaded upstream. Ubuntu, Novell, Red Hat or Mandriva for instance are all quite big and could use any leverage like this.
Actually, if you collect the info needed (short use case, rationale and specification + links) and place it in an accessible place and let people know, others may help file the bugs, do the drafts and maybe even develop the thing.
It all depends if you can catch the interest of someone with enough knowledge to do it.
Slashdot Mirror
Maybe the Klingons have one...
Would half a parenthesis be considered a word?
Depends on how you split it, but both "parent" and "thesis" are words.
I don't think I did miss your point. You tried to score a cheap point by pointing out that repositories also use those code names. You can probably think up some more things that do if you wish.
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My point is that in the end, those names are meant to be completely hidden unless you go looking, which effectively means they will be for the developers use only. It's quite likely that if not today, someday soon, a user can enjoy several versions of Ubuntu without ever seeing or hearing those names. Thus, those are development names.
Not that I personally think the names are bad, I like them. It's so much nicer to say Breezy and Dapper instead of 5.10 and 6.06, feels much more personal.
On a sidenote, seems like the update-manager already knows how to dist-upgrade: http://www.ubuntu.com/testing/dapperbeta#head-ab1
That's right, noone except testers and developers should ever have to type that. Regular users should have no business being in that file (it isn't completely true yet, but that's "should" for you - they are getting there).
You can do it, if you want to switch from an earlier version manually and dist-upgrade, but if you wait for a CD instead, as a regular user can be expected to do, it will take care of this for you.
I am not sure if it's actually finished yet, but the update-manager is supposed to be able to handle dist-upgrades for you too just as it does updated packages. It will pop a nice notification and if you wish, take care of it for you. That's another "should" for you - maybe an internet upgrade today will force you to type that line, but the idea is that you should not have to, and the distribution is getting there.
What you are pointing out is wrinkles in a still very new and not yet completely polished operating system.
When you use a closed format, you are shutting someone out. That's more or less the definition, why would it be closed if it wasn't to keep someone out of it?
Now, why would you - you, not some corporation, but you, personally - want to shut anyone out?
Ok, so it's unlikely to happen anyways - but if one were to toy around with the thought that Macs would rise to take a significant portion of the operating systems used, what would that mean? Not much, from my point of view. It would just mean new vendor lock-in, and probably even worse interoperability as the Apple specific formats become more common. While today WMA, DOC, XLS and PPT are enough trouble, we'd add AAC, CWK, SIT and what have you to the list. DRM will be just as common and prevalent (witness Fairplay and iTunes).
I'll readily admit that I don't know much about Macs and the formats that are used, maybe most are or are becoming open - I just know that every so often I get a file I can't open from a Mac user (yesterday, an AppleWorks file was the most recent). It was the same when I used Windows, so apparently little has changed over the years. That I can open MS files is just because the community has been so hard at work deciphering the formats and reimplementing them. If Apple becomes any more common, the community possibly would have to start over.
The way that Apple has handled any open source connections to their OS and other products quite clearly shows that they only want to take advantage of it, not contribute back [1] [2] [3]. While open standards and open source is not the same thing, and standards is IMO more important, they share a lot of common attributes and philosophy behind. I don't think Apple is interested in either.
It's quite possible that Apple makes a great OS, and great hardware, but it is also quite clear that they are just as predatory and monopolistic as ever Microsoft - they just haven't had the numbers to make the same impact. And I couldn't care which vendor tries to lock me hard to their platform and their DRM, it's all bad in either case. Until Apple decides to play fair with the rest of the world I won't be thinking any better of them than I do MS - being the underdog does not excuse bad behaviour, nor does "but they are doing it".
Being pragmatic to me does not only mean "use what works" it also means looking at what "will work" - and what will continue to do so.
(PS, I can't get a new, open format copy of the cwk file I received until the end of April due to vacations - anyone know of anything that can read this format on a Linux system? Thanks. DS)
It doesn't anymore, and the Wine guys said long ago that they will not waste their time playing catch up. But here's a little nugget from the latest newsletter; Microsoft mentioning Wine in their Genuine Advantage FAQs. :)
The man who trades freedom for Real Media does not deserve either. Oh wait, nobody deserves Real Media.
This long post is relevant to today's article because many OO languages still have objectStore methods that save the internal state of the object to disk.
Indeed they do, but things are perhaps getting better. Ruby, for instance, is switching to use YAML for this, a standard that is open, human-readable and terse, the two latter much more so than for instance XML. YAML has features specifically designed to allow object persistance for any language as well as persistance of any data.
It works nicely without creating lock-in problems. Any language with a YAML parser (and most have one by now) can get at the data easily, and even without the YAML specification it's usually obvious how the data should be read just from looking at it.
Avoid AA-type pseudoreligious programs. They have been proven not to work (no flames, please, go google the study yourself).
Yeah, I think I better! I am not involved in it myself, not having that kind of problem, but I know lots of people, some close (as in family), that has been helped and alcohol/drug free for many years thanks to AA and NA.
Now I have to call these people up and tell them that someone on Slashdot told me about a study I could search Google for that in fact proves that it didn't work.
Maybe you should Google for some success stories and see if there might be two sides to a story? Maybe this rumoured study of yours was asked for, maybe even financed by someone with another idea? There's a lot of benefits to being viewed as a succesful curator of these kinds of illnesses (as proven by the fact that the scientologists are recruiting that way). And studies have a long history in almost any subject of proving and counter-proving almost anything.
In short, I don't know shit about what program is the "best", but I've seen AA work and work well, even though it does seem a bit too religious for my taste.
Have to agree here - at the same time as I do get more and better applications to play with, the machine actually performs better for each update. The whole last 6 months (one release period) for Gnome has seen a lot of focus on improving speed and it shows when comparing for instance Breezy and Dapper.
OTOH, I guess MS is driving the hardware industry forward too, which is not all bad.
Ubuntu is junky for Bluetooth as well.
May I ask in what way? I recently bought a DiNovo media keyboard + laser mouse with bluetooth, and it was just plug and play. Insert USB stick, instantly use keyboard, mediapad and mouse. Friend of mine is syncing phone with calendar and used Skype via bluetooth headset.
I'm sure there are plenty of other things it should do and doesn't, as I know very little about bluetooth, but it worked fine for what I tried.
Getting all mouse buttons to work properly has finally also become realtively easy thanks to the evdev driver, but there is still lots and lots of work to be done with telling X to stop meddling in the affairs of the kernel.
It's true. You should only (be allowed to) use it if you are going to reinstall the system soon anyways and if you promise to never ever ask for support after running it.
That said, the very fact that the script exists means that there is demand for solutions to these things, but I'd rather see a real solution instead of a system trashing hack. It may be ok for Windows users to reinstall when the system gets too old, but Debian-based systems are supposed to be "install once, update forever". Automatix breaks this, often irreversibly (at least to non-experts).
The non-free market would never tell you that. They would build it and charge you for it - no matter how well they actually implement it.
All of those responses are very common in the free world though. Sometimes it's a good thing (the developer may be right) but it's all too often rude.
I've had at least one very non-techie customer in a project working with us remotely via TortoiseSVN and that worked just fine. It's by no means as good as it could be (for this use), but if you can set it up for them and explain Commit and Update, you are probably set.
Note: this post is not necessarily directed at parent.
;-)
:)
Paraphrasing an Apple-related sig as seen on Slashdot: "It's not PostgreSQL I hate, it's the PostgreSQL users".
First off, any product that turns it's users into the fanboy crowd as seen on Slashdot (or in fact, anywhere) anytime Mysql is mentioned must be dangerous in some way. Secondly, any product that needs that kind of cheering and propaganda must have something to hide. Thirdly, I do not want to identify with that kind of rabid fanboyism, no matter if it is well-founded or not.
If you guys would just try to tone it down a notch and wipe the foam from your lips, maybe we would be willing to listen. Attacking the competition - especially in the words and tone the PG crowd usually use - is bad marketing and it is only counter-productive.
Especially when the said Mysql user can't identify themselves with your list of flaws. Oh, I'm sure the list is valid - but I've never been bitten by any of the issues. Maybe because I program in a certain way, maybe because of the libs I use or maybe because they are mostly theoretical flaws - I don't know, but listen now, because I'm gonna repeat myself: I have never been bitten by any of the Mysql issues you PG people like to bring up.
It's very good to see that the Linux crowd mostly have learnt this - I'm a happy Linux-only user and I feel proud of that, especially as the blatant Windows bashers are so few and mostly kids anyways. Even though I feel those have much more of a case, personally.
Focus on the good stuff, promote the strengths, outdo instead of attack the leader, behave civilized. In short, grow up. And I might be happy to apply for a membership one day.
Well, it does behave that way for Firefox + Download window + Epiphany (had to use that because Nautilus loads too fast in the new develoment snapshots of Ubuntu).
On the other hand, doing the same thing with OpenOffice.org, OO comes up on top of them all, though the splash gets hidden behind. So it may be at least partly application based, but then I think that the window manager isn't doing its job according to my wishes. I'm sure that its not only OOo either.
How does OOo do for you? Would be nice to know where the bug lies, so it could be fixed.
I'm used to it...this is after all Slashdot, where everything iTunes, no matter how restrictive, is good and anyone who suggests otherwise is just deluded or stupid.
You see, cheap shots go both ways.
You think that I'm narrowminded because I don't think any DRM is good, while I in fact have pretty good reasons for this. I think that Apple and RIAA want to lull people into thinking that DRM is a good thing before they crank it up a notch. In the end of the tunnel is Trusted Computing, something which they both, together with others actively stand behind. I agree that Fairplay isn't *very* restrictive *today*, but it is restrictive and make no mistakes on who is the actual owner of your content no matter who pays, and make no mistakes on what your rights are or how locked you are to a platform. OTOH, you have bought into the concept and mindset and now you - like all humans would - seek to justify this by arguing that it's really good. That is just human psyche.
I, on the other hand think You are narrowminded - or maybe at least shortsighted for not even acknowledging any potential bad sides to buying into this. You have given up your Manhattan - your freedom - for a few shiny pearls, and maybe you don't deserve any more than that then. But you are selling your whole tribe, not only yourself.
Just think about it.
That's programmable through the window manager, though. With my current setup of Gnome, if I launch a new program, it pops up in the background, rather than in front.
I haven't been able to make this work consistently - what steps do you take to make this work? I use a very recent GNOME on most desktops, in several cases latest development. Thanks.
On a side note, I think it should automatically work like this: If you launch a program and then do nothing - it should get focus. Otherwise it shouldn't. If I actively touch any other app, that should retain focus when the other app loads. That would be completely awesome. (URGENT hints are wanted still, of course, so there's notification). There is nothing more irritating than keystrokes suddenly being eaten by some other application. I specifically choose to start working in this other app, who are you to come distrurb me?
He didn't come with any argument and he didn't refute anything of mine - what he did was illustrate the knee-jerk reaction such a statement always yields from the ones who have already bought into the scam. It's a human, natural reaction - but it is not an argument.
What can I say... you make an excellent job at illustrating my point.
In a way it's even sneakier though, as it teaches the public that DRM is ok. Just watch how many who otherwise claim to love freedom who readily defends it whenever the issue comes up. As soon as the mindset it firmly in place, there will be no problem rolling out worse and worse protections, until we have "Trusted Computing" telling you exactly where you want to go today.
No thank you.
Not to mention that this series is among the best books I've ever read, if not *the* best. People may call it perverted if they want, but then they focus on the actions committed and not what lies behind them - Donaldson is really good at describing people who are doing things out of their own personal - and believable - motives, what drives them. Often with bad or even catastrophic results because they were misinformed or misdirected. This is true for his other books as well, especially the Covenant series are great too.
The Gap is also interesting because it's based on The Ring of the Nibelung (I think) and explores the concept of obtaining and losing absolute power (with omni-corporation instead of omni-being) and the exploration of victim/villain/rescuer and how they trade roles with each other during the story. All in all it's a fantastic story.
The controls of the other browsers are not that arbitrary, at least they aren't anymore. They actually fit in good with the systems they use, in that the same combinations work in the rest of the applications on that same system. This is at least mostly true for IE on Windows, Epiphany on Gnome, Konqueror in KDE, Firefox on many platforms, and probably more. This extends to themes, look and feel, naming of menus (example: Firefox moves the Preferences entry between platforms to conform). All of this makes it easy for a user to find things and be effective, and the user will feel at home with the application.
Opera doesn't feel at home anywhere, as it does everything its own way. That's a bad thing no matter how useful the actual functions are.
And to those saying that users can remap their keys easily, well that is true but I user shouldn't have to - great defaults will make a user look twice. Almost all other browsers have good defaults.
It may not help, but it is a great start in many cases to file bugs for feature requests such as this, especially as you can provide use cases as well as specifications. I'd go file at OpenOffice at least, perhaps at KOffice and Abiword too. Also, it could pay off to file bugs for these kind of features at your distros local bug tracker, as the distros themselves have something to win from this and usually does local development that is forwaded upstream. Ubuntu, Novell, Red Hat or Mandriva for instance are all quite big and could use any leverage like this.
Actually, if you collect the info needed (short use case, rationale and specification + links) and place it in an accessible place and let people know, others may help file the bugs, do the drafts and maybe even develop the thing.
It all depends if you can catch the interest of someone with enough knowledge to do it.
Good luck!