I don't think thats the case. I think its just that culturally we fear what we don't understand and are being taught to be stupid and proud of it. Biology and evolution have nothing to do with it. We can learn these concepts we just willingly refuse to for religious and ideological reasons.
Linux can beat Microsoft only by Surviving. As a Linux user; I don't ask. "Will this be the year of Linux Desktop." I worry. "Will this be the year of the Linux genocide?" Because thats what MS calls for, the "genocide" of Linux. As with all previous years, the question is, as it always has been, what do we have to do as Linux users to Stay Alive!
Stop doing the configure make make install. Everything has to work within the package management Schemas. I'm serious! Stop! Your means of compiling an application should be: rpm -ba rapidsvn.spec.
It should meet all requirements and install all packages and resolve all dependency. If it doesn't, the developer isn't doing his job../configure; make; make install is not something you should ever execute again. I'm serious! Stop doing it that way, and if a SPEC File doesn't exist, MAKE ONE!
These people (Viacom and their ilk) are the worst of the worst as far as I can see. They want to control everything. They want to control how they think, what we say, what we can do. If they don't control it, they want it banned. These people are horrible.
What I must ask, where are efforts to fight these people? Do you realize these people hate the Internet? They will stop at nothing to dismantle the Internet.
I actually support the NTSC-> ATSC Change over. I just think the Cable companies should not be allowed to do what they are doing, and make Digital Cable all encrypted. Essentially, I'm in favor of the governments telling the Cable Companies, You MUST send your signal in unencrypted ATSC for the non-premium channels for your paying customers. They aren't doing that. What they are doing is just the the oppisite. EVERYTHING is getting encrypted by the cable companies, and we are ALL being forced to go to the Digital Tier. The Cable companies will be switching off NTSC Some time, but an ATSC won't replace it. That makes me so damn angry you have no idea. Its going to get to where if you want any Cable at all, you HAVE to have one of their boxes and pay the Digital cable rates.
Otherwise the Cable Company will tell you to go fuck yourself and put up an Antenna.
My issue is, that some of those drivers are Kernel Modules. What happens if the HSF Connexant Driver goes "Yeah this isn't the Kernel I was made for, I'm not loading." and my Modem stops working? I by no means expect Ubuntu to brick the laptop. but I can tell its loading at least one Proprietary Driver.
By the way. Why is the Nvidia Upgrade for the Ubuntu Laptops no longer availible from Dell? If you want a Laptop with an Nvidia Chipset, you have to buy Windows. The Linux Laptop allows ONLY for the Intel Chips??
I have a Ubuntu Preload Under warranty from Dell. It runs Feisty Fawn, I love it. I have one little problem. if you load up even a different Linux, you void your warranty, because they have a few proprietary drivers in the machines for some of the hardware, like the Win-modem. So. Here is an interesting question. How do you upgrade from Fiesty Fawn to Gutsy Gibbon without voiding your warranty?
Updates are small security patches in the form of a DIFF file that are applied to an existing peice of software. Backports are entirely new versions of software. Fedora makes no distinction between Updates and Backports. In CentOS and RHEL, Backports are not allowed. In Mandriva, Backports and Updates are Segregated into Main Updates, Main Backports, Contrib Updates and Contrib Backports. Backports are more likely to break something than an update will, Ubuntu also Segregates Updates and Backports.
Linux applications have undergone a Progression in order to try and stay on par with Windows and OSX. To offer greater services and compatibility than Windows can, Linux is trying to compete with applications that have a very small yet main stream arch of compatibility. Putting them at an advantage. They use less electricity because they have less stuff to run because they are FAR less compatible.
That being said, there is something to be said about using better discipline in writing Linux applications. That would help. But as with ACPI, Windows has an advantage. Lets see what we can do to take that advantage away. Remember what we are fighting for.
I wonder what this will mean to all those Flash only and ActiveX Heavy sites out there that look like garbage on the screen will be legally mandated to clean the page up?
Conversely, could this be used to push some Ultra-proprietary Screen reader technology only Windows Supports by adding elements that would make FireFox and Konqueror unusable?
What will the outcome be? Is this the sum of all fears?
Linux Programmers have shown incredible technical skill. The issue is artists. It is very hard for F/OSS people to get art designers. Art Designers tend not to be F/OSS and not as knowlegeable to the technical side of things to help develop the beauty side of things.
This will continue as long as large numbers of religious leaders and religious voters continue to run the country. You have to understand that about half this country believes that we are in a religious war to defeat an unholy enemy and that on both sides of this religiously motivated war will do whatever it takes to win. This applies just as much to the Islamic fanatics of the Wahabi in Saudi Arabia, as it does to the Christian fanatics that are prevalent in the US Military such as Peter Pace, and Congress, like Orrin Hatch.
Do understand something about Christianity though. Keep in mind, I am a Secular Aignostic. I don't believe in Christian doctrines.
In the Bible, God didn't come down and be selected by two thirds majority. In the Bible, The ten commandments aren't Ten generally considered good ideas, they are commandments. To this end, A cataclysmic impass has occurred.
Whether God exists is sorta irrellevent to the discussion sadly.
All these doctrines call for the ahnialation of all the others. Now how people implement the philosophies may vary, and some interpretations cherry pick and are benign enough to be tolerant. But the doctrines are not Tolerant. Tolerance would be seen as weakness in the tone these doctrines and allow them to be undermined. So the doctrines in their purest form call for the suppression of all freedoms and the extermination of competing ideas. Christian people can be very tolerant. but the actual religion itself is incapable of being tolerant. The same is true of Islam. The doctrines are written in a depressingly genocidal way.
Well, why is this important to whats going on now? Well. we now have U.S. Style Jeffersonian democracy vs. Christianity. For doctrines like Christianity in our case and Islam in theirs, Jeffersonian Demoracy and Christianity are incompatible. In the U.S. enough Americans chose Jesus over the Constitution. There were enough Americans who felt that following the dictates of their God was so important that they put people in power who believed as they did that religion was simply more important, and were willing to cast the constitution aside. The prevailing sentiment was there was "Too much Freedom, not enough God" Christian doctrine is such that things like Freedom of speech, privacy, etc cannot be tolerated because they undermine the religion. As long as the US loves God/Jesus more than Freedom, no one will have freedom, because in both the Bible and the Quran, no one has any freedom.
We get the privilige of living in a freer society only when times are peaceful, and the religious doctrines can be safely "ignored for convienence". Because part of being free means you are free Not to follow the religion's wishes. As such, Religions like Christianity and Islam, and liberal free society are fundamentally incompatible. We elected leaders who ascribe to this, so our freedoms, such as our private telephone conversations are going to be monitored to keep an eye on the population of 'good Christians'. It doesn't end there. Thats just the tip of the iceburg
Well, one of the things is the implementation of change tracking against a Domain Controller, something MS Office has done for a while. The point is, that the Kontact XML-RPC experience needs to be seemless, and it is not.
Why is it that Kontact does not have KOffice integration and Kerberos support. Kontact+eGroupware would be an Exchange Killer IF Kontact and eGroupware supported Kerberos so that I don't have to setup kwallet with Domain login and passwords for remote Calendars/Tasks/Address Book with XML-RPC.
I used to do something similar with fanout. The major advantage is that it scp's the files to the machines rather than each machine pulling the files over and over again, LDAP isn't nessessary but its a nice addition. Kerberos helps because you are not copying the ssh keys all over the place.
This guy's pissing me off, and I'm going to tell him one thing Mandriva Linux has that is very practical that no other Linux has unless you want to start your own mirror system. Domain based parallel application installation. In particular, using LDAP and Kerberos, you can use Kerberos authentication to mass deploy an entire network of application in one command. It uses LDAP to check it, Kerberos to authenticate it, SSH to copy it, and urpmi to install it. This is something I have not seen with any other Linux.
Linux has Active Directory authentication out of the box, an easy front end to ndiswrapper, an easy method for adding Internet software repositories. I really hate this guy. e all work so hard and he tramples on everything we have done.
Mark my words, I will see you using a Linux Desktop yet!
Is there any way we can really sock Microsoft in the Jaw on this? Like, can an organization or Alliance of some kind pre-emptively sue MS to say "You cannot repeatedly make threats that we infringe on your whatever simply because you want to scare people?
I agree, this business is war, and none of us is safe until the threat MS Represents is neutralized. They are coming for us all, its only a matter of time and preparedness.
The whole point however is that the days of installing the Client32 Novell Libraries in Windows is over. Nobody wants to do that anymore. People wants Domains. I have a Linux Domain at my house and two Linux Domain controllers. Its just easier if the whole network is interconnected and attempting to Alter the Linux Client Software to talk to anything else is extremely dangerous.
Windows Server do not at all co-exist with with Linux or any other type of server. Virtually all interoperability of Windows Servers and Linux Clients, or Linux Servers and Windows Clients is done through Reverse engineering of Windows SMB. So that makes Samba absolutely indespensible.
If you have have a Linux Server and a Heterogeneous or even one Windows client, you have no choice but to run Samba because Windows only talks to Windows.
Now before you go hauling off talking about Kerberos Realm mode: That mode is completely useless. With Kerberos Realm mode, you have no Domain functionality, your machine is reverted to Workgroup status. No roaming profiles, no policies, no drive mapping scripts. So repeat after me, "Kerberos Realm Mode is fucking Horrible!" and nobody uses it.
Now. So lets say you go the Samba Domain Controller Route. In fact, lets go ideal and say you have someone who really knows what they are doing. Samba Domain Controller With Kerberos, NT4 SP6 Policy Editor Running under Wine, with LDAP Backend, either with OpenLDAP or Fedora DS.
Well.
Your Linux Clients work just fine. They login, get account data out of LDAP, Authenticate with Kerberos, maybe use AFS or Samba with Kerberos Authentication. (That works only for Linux boxen under Samba 3.0)
Your Windows Clients? See a bizzare Hellscape of situations where it looks like its surrounded on all sides by "Windows NT 4.9" Servers that all claim to be primary domain controllers. The Kerberos mode? They ignore that and fall back to NTLMv2. They can't even tell the Kerberos or LDAP Servers are even there. Still pretty decent interoperability.
lets take the reverse.
Well, Windows Servers will run AD, thats all they will do, thats all they have done.
Windows clients, GPO, all that shit. Linux Clients? Well. You can try the "Services For Unix" method with Kerberos and LDAP trick, but its doubtful that will work. Your best chance again, Samba with Winbind. Linux has too reverse engineer everything. Microsoft policy is very is not Embrace, Extend, Exterminate with Windows Servers. Its just Exterminate. To Microsoft, the only good Linux User is a Dead Linux User.
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I don't think thats the case. I think its just that culturally we fear what we don't understand and are being taught to be stupid and proud of it. Biology and evolution have nothing to do with it. We can learn these concepts we just willingly refuse to for religious and ideological reasons.
Linux can beat Microsoft only by Surviving. As a Linux user; I don't ask. "Will this be the year of Linux Desktop." I worry. "Will this be the year of the Linux genocide?" Because thats what MS calls for, the "genocide" of Linux. As with all previous years, the question is, as it always has been, what do we have to do as Linux users to Stay Alive!
Stop doing the configure make make install. Everything has to work within the package management Schemas. I'm serious! Stop! Your means of compiling an application should be: rpm -ba rapidsvn.spec.
./configure; make; make install is not something you should ever execute again. I'm serious! Stop doing it that way, and if a SPEC File doesn't exist, MAKE ONE!
It should meet all requirements and install all packages and resolve all dependency. If it doesn't, the developer isn't doing his job.
These people (Viacom and their ilk) are the worst of the worst as far as I can see. They want to control everything. They want to control how they think, what we say, what we can do. If they don't control it, they want it banned. These people are horrible.
What I must ask, where are efforts to fight these people? Do you realize these people hate the Internet? They will stop at nothing to dismantle the Internet.
I actually support the NTSC-> ATSC Change over. I just think the Cable companies should not be allowed to do what they are doing, and make Digital Cable all encrypted. Essentially, I'm in favor of the governments telling the Cable Companies, You MUST send your signal in unencrypted ATSC for the non-premium channels for your paying customers. They aren't doing that. What they are doing is just the the oppisite. EVERYTHING is getting encrypted by the cable companies, and we are ALL being forced to go to the Digital Tier. The Cable companies will be switching off NTSC Some time, but an ATSC won't replace it. That makes me so damn angry you have no idea. Its going to get to where if you want any Cable at all, you HAVE to have one of their boxes and pay the Digital cable rates.
Otherwise the Cable Company will tell you to go fuck yourself and put up an Antenna.
No a Gutsy Upgrade will not void your warranty. HOWEVER. Your Dial-up Phone modem will stop working so says a Dell Linux Tech.
My issue is, that some of those drivers are Kernel Modules. What happens if the HSF Connexant Driver goes "Yeah this isn't the Kernel I was made for, I'm not loading." and my Modem stops working? I by no means expect Ubuntu to brick the laptop. but I can tell its loading at least one Proprietary Driver.
By the way. Why is the Nvidia Upgrade for the Ubuntu Laptops no longer availible from Dell? If you want a Laptop with an Nvidia Chipset, you have to buy Windows. The Linux Laptop allows ONLY for the Intel Chips??
I have a Ubuntu Preload Under warranty from Dell. It runs Feisty Fawn, I love it. I have one little problem. if you load up even a different Linux, you void your warranty, because they have a few proprietary drivers in the machines for some of the hardware, like the Win-modem. So. Here is an interesting question. How do you upgrade from Fiesty Fawn to Gutsy Gibbon without voiding your warranty?
You are confusing updates vs. Backports.
Updates are small security patches in the form of a DIFF file that are applied to an existing peice of software. Backports are entirely new versions of software. Fedora makes no distinction between Updates and Backports. In CentOS and RHEL, Backports are not allowed. In Mandriva, Backports and Updates are Segregated into Main Updates, Main Backports, Contrib Updates and Contrib Backports. Backports are more likely to break something than an update will, Ubuntu also Segregates Updates and Backports.
Linux applications have undergone a Progression in order to try and stay on par with Windows and OSX. To offer greater services and compatibility than Windows can, Linux is trying to compete with applications that have a very small yet main stream arch of compatibility. Putting them at an advantage. They use less electricity because they have less stuff to run because they are FAR less compatible.
That being said, there is something to be said about using better discipline in writing Linux applications. That would help. But as with ACPI, Windows has an advantage. Lets see what we can do to take that advantage away. Remember what we are fighting for.
I wonder what this will mean to all those Flash only and ActiveX Heavy sites out there that look like garbage on the screen will be legally mandated to clean the page up?
Conversely, could this be used to push some Ultra-proprietary Screen reader technology only Windows Supports by adding elements that would make FireFox and Konqueror unusable?
What will the outcome be? Is this the sum of all fears?
I ran into that with a Mega Man related Project. There are existing Linux projects that need the artists. I could point you to several.
Linux Programmers have shown incredible technical skill. The issue is artists. It is very hard for F/OSS people to get art designers. Art Designers tend not to be F/OSS and not as knowlegeable to the technical side of things to help develop the beauty side of things.
This will continue as long as large numbers of religious leaders and religious voters continue to run the country. You have to understand that about half this country believes that we are in a religious war to defeat an unholy enemy and that on both sides of this religiously motivated war will do whatever it takes to win. This applies just as much to the Islamic fanatics of the Wahabi in Saudi Arabia, as it does to the Christian fanatics that are prevalent in the US Military such as Peter Pace, and Congress, like Orrin Hatch.
Do understand something about Christianity though. Keep in mind, I am a Secular Aignostic. I don't believe in Christian doctrines.
In the Bible, God didn't come down and be selected by two thirds majority. In the Bible, The ten commandments aren't Ten generally considered good ideas, they are commandments. To this end, A cataclysmic impass has occurred.
Whether God exists is sorta irrellevent to the discussion sadly.
All these doctrines call for the ahnialation of all the others. Now how people implement the philosophies may vary, and some interpretations cherry pick and are benign enough to be tolerant. But the doctrines are not Tolerant. Tolerance would be seen as weakness in the tone these doctrines and allow them to be undermined. So the doctrines in their purest form call for the suppression of all freedoms and the extermination of competing ideas. Christian people can be very tolerant. but the actual religion itself is incapable of being tolerant. The same is true of Islam. The doctrines are written in a depressingly genocidal way.
Well, why is this important to whats going on now? Well. we now have U.S. Style Jeffersonian democracy vs. Christianity. For doctrines like Christianity in our case and Islam in theirs, Jeffersonian Demoracy and Christianity are incompatible. In the U.S. enough Americans chose Jesus over the Constitution. There were enough Americans who felt that following the dictates of their God was so important that they put people in power who believed as they did that religion was simply more important, and were willing to cast the constitution aside. The prevailing sentiment was there was "Too much Freedom, not enough God" Christian doctrine is such that things like Freedom of speech, privacy, etc cannot be tolerated because they undermine the religion. As long as the US loves God/Jesus more than Freedom, no one will have freedom, because in both the Bible and the Quran, no one has any freedom.
We get the privilige of living in a freer society only when times are peaceful, and the religious doctrines can be safely "ignored for convienence". Because part of being free means you are free Not to follow the religion's wishes. As such, Religions like Christianity and Islam, and liberal free society are fundamentally incompatible. We elected leaders who ascribe to this, so our freedoms, such as our private telephone conversations are going to be monitored to keep an eye on the population of 'good Christians'. It doesn't end there. Thats just the tip of the iceburg
Well, one of the things is the implementation of change tracking against a Domain Controller, something MS Office has done for a while. The point is, that the Kontact XML-RPC experience needs to be seemless, and it is not.
Why is it that Kontact does not have KOffice integration and Kerberos support. Kontact+eGroupware would be an Exchange Killer IF Kontact and eGroupware supported Kerberos so that I don't have to setup kwallet with Domain login and passwords for remote Calendars/Tasks/Address Book with XML-RPC.
Why no love of Kerberos!
I used to do something similar with fanout. The major advantage is that it scp's the files to the machines rather than each machine pulling the files over and over again, LDAP isn't nessessary but its a nice addition. Kerberos helps because you are not copying the ssh keys all over the place.
I tend to type badly when I am mad as Hell.
This guy's pissing me off, and I'm going to tell him one thing Mandriva Linux has that is very practical that no other Linux has unless you want to start your own mirror system. Domain based parallel application installation. In particular, using LDAP and Kerberos, you can use Kerberos authentication to mass deploy an entire network of application in one command. It uses LDAP to check it, Kerberos to authenticate it, SSH to copy it, and urpmi to install it. This is something I have not seen with any other Linux.
Linux has Active Directory authentication out of the box, an easy front end to ndiswrapper, an easy method for adding Internet software repositories. I really hate this guy. e all work so hard and he tramples on everything we have done.
Mark my words, I will see you using a Linux Desktop yet!
Its still in Drak3d as far as I can tell, you can use that or Compiz Fusion.
Is there any way we can really sock Microsoft in the Jaw on this? Like, can an organization or Alliance of some kind pre-emptively sue MS to say "You cannot repeatedly make threats that we infringe on your whatever simply because you want to scare people?
I agree, this business is war, and none of us is safe until the threat MS Represents is neutralized. They are coming for us all, its only a matter of time and preparedness.
The whole point however is that the days of installing the Client32 Novell Libraries in Windows is over. Nobody wants to do that anymore. People wants Domains. I have a Linux Domain at my house and two Linux Domain controllers. Its just easier if the whole network is interconnected and attempting to Alter the Linux Client Software to talk to anything else is extremely dangerous.
Windows Server do not at all co-exist with with Linux or any other type of server. Virtually all interoperability of Windows Servers and Linux Clients, or Linux Servers and Windows Clients is done through Reverse engineering of Windows SMB. So that makes Samba absolutely indespensible.
If you have have a Linux Server and a Heterogeneous or even one Windows client, you have no choice but to run Samba because Windows only talks to Windows.
Now before you go hauling off talking about Kerberos Realm mode:
That mode is completely useless. With Kerberos Realm mode, you have no Domain functionality, your machine is reverted to Workgroup status. No roaming profiles, no policies, no drive mapping scripts. So repeat after me, "Kerberos Realm Mode is fucking Horrible!" and nobody uses it.
Now. So lets say you go the Samba Domain Controller Route. In fact, lets go ideal and say you have someone who really knows what they are doing. Samba Domain Controller With Kerberos, NT4 SP6 Policy Editor Running under Wine, with LDAP Backend, either with OpenLDAP or Fedora DS.
Well.
Your Linux Clients work just fine. They login, get account data out of LDAP, Authenticate with Kerberos, maybe use AFS or Samba with Kerberos Authentication. (That works only for Linux boxen under Samba 3.0)
Your Windows Clients? See a bizzare Hellscape of situations where it looks like its surrounded on all sides by "Windows NT 4.9" Servers that all claim to be primary domain controllers. The Kerberos mode? They ignore that and fall back to NTLMv2. They can't even tell the Kerberos or LDAP Servers are even there. Still pretty decent interoperability.
lets take the reverse.
Well, Windows Servers will run AD, thats all they will do, thats all they have done.
Windows clients, GPO, all that shit. Linux Clients? Well. You can try the "Services For Unix" method with Kerberos and LDAP trick, but its doubtful that will work. Your best chance again, Samba with Winbind. Linux has too reverse engineer everything. Microsoft policy is very is not Embrace, Extend, Exterminate with Windows Servers. Its just Exterminate. To Microsoft, the only good Linux User is a Dead Linux User.