read the fine print. "as configured" price is $1,849. that's the specs you see there. the cheaper option has no SSD, weaker graphics, and less RAM. looking on amazon, i say no $699 option. there's a $729 option, and it comes with an i-3 processor.
Now Google navigation with the traffic jam avoidance of Waze could be really be good.
google has traffic jam avoidance. it just doesn't avoid traffic for the sake of avoiding traffic. for example, it won't suggest a slightly faster alternate route if it' results in significantly longer distance. this is generally what makes sense. e.g., it doesn't make sense to drive an extra 20 miles to save 5 minutes.
the sad fact is that it's typically faster to just sit there in traffic. i suppose if you are the type to irrationally avoid traffic at all costs, then google nav might not be your cup of tea.
I doubt it. I've said (when Scott Forstall stepped down) that Apple realised that it's not in the data industry. Sure, they can do a bit in-house, but they just don't have the resources to cross the moat that Google has with its infrastructure, code, and expertise.
dunno if it's a huge blow for apple, but it's painfully obvious that apple thinks maps and navigation technology is part of their core or they wouldn't have dove in head first building their own solution.
It's presented like a car SATNAV with lots of POI icons for food etc. prioritised over things like road names, railway stations, major universities, etc
+1. not only apple, but companies in general seem to think that the search for food or other consumer items takes precedence over all else in life. take a look at the apple keynote today... where their calendar will suggest restaurants if you happen to put food words in your calendar appt.
employees want apple products at work. macbooks. iphones. ipads. they are not always (often) allowed by IT, or by management, but if employees continue to want them they will eventually make their way into enterprise and push out windows. eventually those employees that want them will become IT / management and will allow them into the enterprise.
MSFT knows this, which is why they are pushing so hard to regain coolness on the consumer side. they know if people are using apple products in their personal life, they will eventually be asking for and getting them in the enterprise as well.
That's the lesson that the music industry learnt the hard way -- the people that aren't willing to pay are a lost cause either way, but DRM may alienate the paying customers.
that's ridiculous. you are essentially saying there there are two groups of people: ones that will pay for your music, and ones that won't. are you really denying the existence of people that would pay for your music if they couldn't download it?
when i was a kid, i spent untold $ on $15.99 CDs. there's no way i would have spent my very limited $ paying for music if i could have it almost instantly for free. i really doubt i'm usual here. if you have any doubts, i challenge you to ask any 16 year old what they'd do.
the problem is that support for it needs to be built into the mobile operating system. you can't have virtualization provided by a mobile app simply because of the restrictions put upon mobile apps. so now the problem is getting google or apple to implement virtualization support. that doesn't exist.
it's pretty slick. a true android virtual machine that runs an "enterprise" guest android gingerbread under your host personal device. the problem? it requires a custom android dist for each device it's released on.
It lets you throw something together quickly for a proof of concept
the thing about type safety... even if you use a non-type safe language, you still have to get it right or your crap will crash, or worse, run and do something unexpected. you still need to be type safe, it's just that you have to find all your bugs at runtime in stead of compile time. do we need to discuss why it's better to catch bugs at compile time?
are you serious? did you really just throw 2 more dists into the mix of 5 or more that i've already seen recommended on this thread? if you can't see the problem here here for the average user, you are part of it.
there seems to be a lot of folks here with experience. so far in this thread i've read: ubuntu 10, ubuntu 12, unity, gnome 3, gnome 2, centos, mint, fedora.
thanks for the proverbial car analogy, but with a car you can test drive it. however, the average person doesn't want to spend their weekend downloading and installing different linux dists. even if they do, the number of variables are unreasonable. can i get the right drivers? does my DVD writer work? is this or that one stable with my wifi chipset?
the last time i tried linux (about 3 years ago), i wiped a brand new off the shelf HP laptop and installed ubuntu.
1. DVD writer didn't work 2. sporadically would not mount my SD cards through card reader 3. screen would not sleep (would go black, but backlight stayed on) 4. media keys didn't work, including volume 5. weird problem where every HTTP connection would hang for several seconds (something to do w/ ipv6) 6. odd 8-bit-ish color palette when playing video (yes, i had proprietary graphics drivers installed)
i spent countless hours troubleshooting these and other problems. some i solved, some i didn't. i eventually installed windows 7 and never looked back.
yes i know, one data point doesn't prove anything. i'm just relaying my singular poor experience.
I suppose its nothing to do with the fact that the PC I bought 5 years ago is pretty much still as good as those I can get off the shelf today.
your computer from 5 years ago might still be good enough, but it's not "pretty much still as good" as a modern computer.
while processor clock speeds haven't advanced, processing power is much higher with the corei series processors than with the core2duo series. not to mention advancements in graphics subsystems and SSDs on the way to becoming standard.
maybe not the right wording, but i see his point. if i decided i wanted linux on my desktop today, i wouldn't be able to tell you which linux. i'd have to start poking around to find the latest greatest dist. i'd have to understand what i need, and what dist tailors to that. i have to understand if the latest greatest dist is going to fall out of favor in 2 years, in which case i'll have to do the exercise over again.
some people find that journey enchanting. most people do not.
they don't up the cost of schooling when you are rich, they drop it when you are dirt poor. no, i'm not dirt poor. if you are employed and have a family income above the poverty level, your kid isn't getting financial aid.
$50k / year is a standard amount for a decent private university. for a UC school, the cost is around $30k / year. for a CSU, it's $25k / year. if you aren't a CA resident, it's even higher.
russian missiles pointed at our european allies? you can back and forth until you are blue in the face. each country was threatening the other. the point is that cuba was playing the nuclear game just like everyone else.
This is insanity. She had a good portion of her schooling supplemented by the US Government. She is now paying taxes and is a law-abiding citizen. So they kick her out. Insanity.
her taxes are drops in the bucket compared to the taxes paid by generations of americans to build the system that allowed her both to obtain an excellent education and find a good paying job.
p.s., she obtained an awesome education from american universities for free, so i have a hard time feeling sorry for her. it's going to cost me hundreds of thousands of dollars to do the same for my son. so really, cry me a freaking river.
Rather than the inane 20000 then 65000 pool that exists today
as TFA stated, the pool is 65k-190k per year, where each visas lasts 3 years and can be extended to 6. and they are lobbying to increase that even higher.
If Orth had been a rank-and-file developer, then firing him for these comments would have been overkill.
i work on a product that is drastically less consumer facing than xbox, and even i know not to make statements about unreleased products. in fact, i know not to say anything at all about my employer in public. i don't represent them.
For someone like this, generating good PR is actually supposed to be a part of their job
how do you know that? MSFT and any other large company has groups dedicated to communicating to the public. for anyone else, the message is keep your mouth shut.
That's the thing about missiles... you typically see them coming
cruise missiles are designed to fly at very low altitudes and very high speeds defeating traditional radar systems. of course, you might have trouble with the sonic boom.
our problem with Cuba was that they were threatening to allow russia to deploy nuclear weapons. sure, we hated them in the first place for specious reasons, but we weren't threatening to melt them into nuclear ash just because they were commies.
i have even though i rarely use my phone other than to listen to music in my car with voice turn by turn navigation why even check the map on your phone yourself?
you think a dash mount is going to save your butt? dash mount is fine as long as you don't touch it in transit. if you allow even minor touching, the entire law gets thrown out the window because it becomes unenforceable if you require law enforcement to time how long you are distracted.
as for why even check the map? maybe you need to revise the address? set a new waypoint, such as for coffee or fuel?
also, while you are listening to music, i hope you don't adjust the volume or skip songs, or pause.
my wife has told me off for telling her that the train is running 3mins late
Sometimes my wife will ask me to pass her a particular bathroom product and she might say "pass me the blue one" but what she calls blue, I might call purple
I don't like saying "this will take about 15mins" if I know it'll take exactly 13 mins
how about if you know it will take 13 mins and 27 seconds? do you include the seconds? would you include tenths of a second? i'm curious how you decide how much precision to include. as much as possible?
Belt and suspenders? Dunno, man, started wearing a watch in '61 or so, didn't get a cell until '06. Don't have (nor can afford) a smartphone, have just a phone that gets and makes calls and serves as an alarm clock.
i'd be really surprised if your "just a phone" phone doesn't also have a clock. check out your manual.
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read the fine print. "as configured" price is $1,849. that's the specs you see there. the cheaper option has no SSD, weaker graphics, and less RAM. looking on amazon, i say no $699 option. there's a $729 option, and it comes with an i-3 processor.
I wish Google had investing in something much more worthwhile like offline navigation.
lucky for you, they have that already. menu > make available offline. select the rectangle of the map you want offline.
Now Google navigation with the traffic jam avoidance of Waze could be really be good.
google has traffic jam avoidance. it just doesn't avoid traffic for the sake of avoiding traffic. for example, it won't suggest a slightly faster alternate route if it' results in significantly longer distance. this is generally what makes sense. e.g., it doesn't make sense to drive an extra 20 miles to save 5 minutes.
the sad fact is that it's typically faster to just sit there in traffic. i suppose if you are the type to irrationally avoid traffic at all costs, then google nav might not be your cup of tea.
I doubt it. I've said (when Scott Forstall stepped down) that Apple realised that it's not in the data industry. Sure, they can do a bit in-house, but they just don't have the resources to cross the moat that Google has with its infrastructure, code, and expertise.
dunno if it's a huge blow for apple, but it's painfully obvious that apple thinks maps and navigation technology is part of their core or they wouldn't have dove in head first building their own solution.
It's presented like a car SATNAV with lots of POI icons for food etc. prioritised over things like road names, railway stations, major universities, etc
+1. not only apple, but companies in general seem to think that the search for food or other consumer items takes precedence over all else in life. take a look at the apple keynote today ... where their calendar will suggest restaurants if you happen to put food words in your calendar appt.
employees want apple products at work. macbooks. iphones. ipads. they are not always (often) allowed by IT, or by management, but if employees continue to want them they will eventually make their way into enterprise and push out windows. eventually those employees that want them will become IT / management and will allow them into the enterprise.
MSFT knows this, which is why they are pushing so hard to regain coolness on the consumer side. they know if people are using apple products in their personal life, they will eventually be asking for and getting them in the enterprise as well.
That's the lesson that the music industry learnt the hard way -- the people that aren't willing to pay are a lost cause either way, but DRM may alienate the paying customers.
that's ridiculous. you are essentially saying there there are two groups of people: ones that will pay for your music, and ones that won't. are you really denying the existence of people that would pay for your music if they couldn't download it?
when i was a kid, i spent untold $ on $15.99 CDs. there's no way i would have spent my very limited $ paying for music if i could have it almost instantly for free. i really doubt i'm usual here. if you have any doubts, i challenge you to ask any 16 year old what they'd do.
Hardware virtualization exists
the problem is that support for it needs to be built into the mobile operating system. you can't have virtualization provided by a mobile app simply because of the restrictions put upon mobile apps. so now the problem is getting google or apple to implement virtualization support. that doesn't exist.
vmware has an android vritualization solution on the market,
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HX_Kmc2n82k
it's pretty slick. a true android virtual machine that runs an "enterprise" guest android gingerbread under your host personal device. the problem? it requires a custom android dist for each device it's released on.
It lets you throw something together quickly for a proof of concept
the thing about type safety ... even if you use a non-type safe language, you still have to get it right or your crap will crash, or worse, run and do something unexpected. you still need to be type safe, it's just that you have to find all your bugs at runtime in stead of compile time. do we need to discuss why it's better to catch bugs at compile time?
You should have used Mandriva or Mageia.
are you serious? did you really just throw 2 more dists into the mix of 5 or more that i've already seen recommended on this thread? if you can't see the problem here here for the average user, you are part of it.
there seems to be a lot of folks here with experience. so far in this thread i've read: ubuntu 10, ubuntu 12, unity, gnome 3, gnome 2, centos, mint, fedora.
thanks for the proverbial car analogy, but with a car you can test drive it. however, the average person doesn't want to spend their weekend downloading and installing different linux dists. even if they do, the number of variables are unreasonable. can i get the right drivers? does my DVD writer work? is this or that one stable with my wifi chipset?
the last time i tried linux (about 3 years ago), i wiped a brand new off the shelf HP laptop and installed ubuntu.
1. DVD writer didn't work
2. sporadically would not mount my SD cards through card reader
3. screen would not sleep (would go black, but backlight stayed on)
4. media keys didn't work, including volume
5. weird problem where every HTTP connection would hang for several seconds (something to do w/ ipv6)
6. odd 8-bit-ish color palette when playing video (yes, i had proprietary graphics drivers installed)
i spent countless hours troubleshooting these and other problems. some i solved, some i didn't. i eventually installed windows 7 and never looked back.
yes i know, one data point doesn't prove anything. i'm just relaying my singular poor experience.
As well, it doesn't impede wanking at the computer. You know, as long as we're playing the stereotype card. :)
which stereotype? human male?
I suppose its nothing to do with the fact that the PC I bought 5 years ago is pretty much still as good as those I can get off the shelf today.
your computer from 5 years ago might still be good enough, but it's not "pretty much still as good" as a modern computer.
while processor clock speeds haven't advanced, processing power is much higher with the corei series processors than with the core2duo series. not to mention advancements in graphics subsystems and SSDs on the way to becoming standard.
There are no "distro wars" going on.
maybe not the right wording, but i see his point. if i decided i wanted linux on my desktop today, i wouldn't be able to tell you which linux. i'd have to start poking around to find the latest greatest dist. i'd have to understand what i need, and what dist tailors to that. i have to understand if the latest greatest dist is going to fall out of favor in 2 years, in which case i'll have to do the exercise over again.
some people find that journey enchanting. most people do not.
you're either very rich
they don't up the cost of schooling when you are rich, they drop it when you are dirt poor. no, i'm not dirt poor. if you are employed and have a family income above the poverty level, your kid isn't getting financial aid.
$50k / year is a standard amount for a decent private university. for a UC school, the cost is around $30k / year. for a CSU, it's $25k / year. if you aren't a CA resident, it's even higher.
russian missiles pointed at our european allies? you can back and forth until you are blue in the face. each country was threatening the other. the point is that cuba was playing the nuclear game just like everyone else.
This is insanity. She had a good portion of her schooling supplemented by the US Government. She is now paying taxes and is a law-abiding citizen. So they kick her out. Insanity.
her taxes are drops in the bucket compared to the taxes paid by generations of americans to build the system that allowed her both to obtain an excellent education and find a good paying job.
p.s., she obtained an awesome education from american universities for free, so i have a hard time feeling sorry for her. it's going to cost me hundreds of thousands of dollars to do the same for my son. so really, cry me a freaking river.
Rather than the inane 20000 then 65000 pool that exists today
as TFA stated, the pool is 65k-190k per year, where each visas lasts 3 years and can be extended to 6. and they are lobbying to increase that even higher.
yeah, i was talking about knocking down their offensive capabilities with conventional weapons.
If Orth had been a rank-and-file developer, then firing him for these comments would have been overkill.
i work on a product that is drastically less consumer facing than xbox, and even i know not to make statements about unreleased products. in fact, i know not to say anything at all about my employer in public. i don't represent them.
For someone like this, generating good PR is actually supposed to be a part of their job
how do you know that? MSFT and any other large company has groups dedicated to communicating to the public. for anyone else, the message is keep your mouth shut.
That's the thing about missiles... you typically see them coming
cruise missiles are designed to fly at very low altitudes and very high speeds defeating traditional radar systems. of course, you might have trouble with the sonic boom.
Cuba
our problem with Cuba was that they were threatening to allow russia to deploy nuclear weapons. sure, we hated them in the first place for specious reasons, but we weren't threatening to melt them into nuclear ash just because they were commies.
i have even though i rarely use my phone other than to listen to music in my car
with voice turn by turn navigation why even check the map on your phone yourself?
you think a dash mount is going to save your butt? dash mount is fine as long as you don't touch it in transit. if you allow even minor touching, the entire law gets thrown out the window because it becomes unenforceable if you require law enforcement to time how long you are distracted.
as for why even check the map? maybe you need to revise the address? set a new waypoint, such as for coffee or fuel?
also, while you are listening to music, i hope you don't adjust the volume or skip songs, or pause.
my wife has told me off for telling her that the train is running 3mins late
Sometimes my wife will ask me to pass her a particular bathroom product and she might say "pass me the blue one" but what she calls blue, I might call purple
good luck with your marriage.
I don't like saying "this will take about 15mins" if I know it'll take exactly 13 mins
how about if you know it will take 13 mins and 27 seconds? do you include the seconds? would you include tenths of a second? i'm curious how you decide how much precision to include. as much as possible?
Belt and suspenders? Dunno, man, started wearing a watch in '61 or so, didn't get a cell until '06. Don't have (nor can afford) a smartphone, have just a phone that gets and makes calls and serves as an alarm clock.
i'd be really surprised if your "just a phone" phone doesn't also have a clock. check out your manual.