Here is a screenshot for you, about a thousand px on a side, 178kB. The background image is a big gumnut, up close and personal.
Note the following:
Menus on each document window
colour depths in the File/New dialog
room for biiiig numbers in the colour depths
more brushes
There are a lot more improvements but I couldn't be bothered ferreting them out for some random skeptic who probably won't even bother to read what I have posted.
This is CinePaint 0.18-1, (urpmi cinepaint, pause, done) the current version is 0.18-3.
Post constructive suggestions. If they really are arts students, get them to draw what they want it to look like and submit that. Too hard? Too obvious? Too constructive? Not sarcastic enough? Stop me when I get close.
Just exactly how many open-source database products give you TOP TALENT who get up in the MIDDLE OF THE NIGHT to fix the bug which is currently keeping you from processing your payroll (and making 40,000 employees happy)?
I support the infrastructure for a business with eight (8, no zeroes) employees. Their main line-of-business accounting program broke because the database behind it broke. The database provider (Pervasive) haven't responded to email or 'phone yet (6 days and counting). The accounting program providers (Pastel Australia) have all gone home until early January, but there's one guy in South Africa (which has also officially gone home until Jan) who's at least giving advice (not advice that can actually *fix* the problem yet, but he's working within his political/contractual boundaries) every day or so. Meanwhile, these guys wanted to get their invoices printed and into the snailmail by this week. Chances are...?
Good thing they got their last payroll out of the way just before the DB blew up. The next payroll day may not be so happy.
At another similarly sized site I had a problem with late in the afternoon of the same day using a FOSS database, one of the *developers* (not a salesthing or politically gelded tech support person) popped up at 9PM our time and fixed the problem. For free.
There are a *lot* more 8-seat sites out there than 40,000-seat sites.
1, 4, 8, 12, 16, 24, 32... the user shouldn't have to care.
As I understand it, once they shim GEGL in, the rest will be easy.
Unfortunately, the GEGL domain is off-air as I type, the last contribution to the GNOME repository for itis some testing stuff 9 months ago, and the last "real" code 11 months ago, most of it's a year or two old, all of the recent (in relative terms) changes were done by dsrogers. Not lookin' too sanguine.
FreeTouchUp hints at what you can do with it, sounds vaguely like PhotoShop, and you can be sure that lots of idiots will download "FreeFeelUp" before the difference sinks in. (-:
I s'pose we could try for something witty like "Frees Frame" or FLIP, for "Free/Libre Image Processor".
I have three images open in GIMP now, and can cut, paste, drag and drop between them with impunity. Each has it own set of menus, plus the right-click one.
If you want a separate context menu, invent one. C is not a difficult language to grasp. Then you can map the existing menu to one of the side-buttons of your mouse and be happy.
Translate the Script-Fu to C, and you can have a preview for it just like everything else. Script-Fu is exactly what it says it is: a scripting language, not an extension API. It means that ad-hoc is relatively trivial but it also means that until some genius figures out how to give you previews for stuff which takes seconds-to-minutes, you're out of luck. Quicker to translate little scripts like that into C.
What I would like to see in the existing previews is a zoom slider.
2.2 has Guillotine right there in the menus (Image, Transform Guillotine).
What it lacks is a way to tie image sections to one another to give an effect like ROWSPAN and COLSPAN from HTML. As things stand, you have to manually tack the appropriate image pieces back together again after the guillotine. If there were a simple Merge Pieces tool to do this, it would suffice, but I would be greatly pleased if you could mark sections of a Guide line (between intersecting Guides) and indicate that you didn't want the pieces either side of it separated.
...put a text-box on the File Open dialog where you can type to choose a file (e.g. hidden files/directories) or give the navigator hints.
No, I'm not talking about the separate Location box which Ctrl-L brings up (although that is handy for pasting URLs from other programs), I'm talking about a typing target integrated with the existing panel.
Have you used GIMP 2.2 (or even a late 2.0)? They have menus on every image window. Purists will complain that it's cluttered, but I find it very handy to have a choice of right-clicking if you happen to be a long way from the menu bar, or clicking on the menu bar if it's not a function you use often (hunt and peck made easier) or the bar happens to be nearest.
You can tack together the free-floating tool windows and make them one if you like. Admittedly, this should be one of the first startup tips and isn't.
So yes, they did respond to that particular feedback, even if you didn't find out about it yet.
It's also relatively trivial in most WMs to make those floating windows always-on-toppish like the PS ones (only more flexible).
It could also be stated with much fairness that PhotoShop users form a disproportionate population of those complaining about same. And that if you don't like it, you're at liberty create a fork or a parallel patch set to implement the windows however you like them. Before anyone OMFGs me, compare the amount of effort involved in doing that with the amount of effort involved in creating the whole GIMP in the first place, and remember that with PS it's pretty close to impossible to do anything of this nature.
BTW, my sister-in-law uses The GIMP heavily, and swears by the floating windows and the tearoff menus.
Can they really be that stupid? I mean, won't that level of stupidity be actionable when the sky really does fall and penguin little guts himself laughing?
PS, how would they react to you running the C#/.net stuff up on Mono?
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Here is a screenshot for you, about a thousand px on a side, 178kB. The background image is a big gumnut, up close and personal.
Note the following:
- Menus on each document window
- colour depths in the File/New dialog
- room for biiiig numbers in the colour depths
- more brushes
There are a lot more improvements but I couldn't be bothered ferreting them out for some random skeptic who probably won't even bother to read what I have posted.This is CinePaint 0.18-1, (urpmi cinepaint, pause, done) the current version is 0.18-3.
And can I recommend the #gimp IRC channel for instant advice?
The machine, of course, not any icons.
Post constructive suggestions. If they really are arts students, get them to draw what they want it to look like and submit that. Too hard? Too obvious? Too constructive? Not sarcastic enough? Stop me when I get close.
...try some random shots from my collection. There's a few sunsets and stuff in there too. Uses a Creative Commons Sharealike 2.0 licence.
Good thing they got their last payroll out of the way just before the DB blew up. The next payroll day may not be so happy.
At another similarly sized site I had a problem with late in the afternoon of the same day using a FOSS database, one of the *developers* (not a salesthing or politically gelded tech support person) popped up at 9PM our time and fixed the problem. For free.
There are a *lot* more 8-seat sites out there than 40,000-seat sites.
All of it. What did you do to provoke that?
I'm a vim user, but still, I can't see old Mike doing too well with that either.
A pikachu? Gosh, I'm... I'm... underwhelmed. (-:
Mine's here. A bit large, a bit gaudy, but the missus likes it. (-:
Robin Rowe dunnit.
At the risk of quoting Manfred from Ice Age... oh, and look, they're demoing it with a GIMP fork with up to 32-bits-per-channel and colour management.
1, 4, 8, 12, 16, 24, 32... the user shouldn't have to care.
As I understand it, once they shim GEGL in, the rest will be easy.
Unfortunately, the GEGL domain is off-air as I type, the last contribution to the GNOME repository for itis some testing stuff 9 months ago, and the last "real" code 11 months ago, most of it's a year or two old, all of the recent (in relative terms) changes were done by dsrogers. Not lookin' too sanguine.
I s'pose we could try for something witty like "Frees Frame" or FLIP, for "Free/Libre Image Processor".
...where I propose a PS personality module. Wouldn't hurt to do an MS-Paint PM either. (-:
I have three images open in GIMP now, and can cut, paste, drag and drop between them with impunity. Each has it own set of menus, plus the right-click one.
If you want a separate context menu, invent one. C is not a difficult language to grasp. Then you can map the existing menu to one of the side-buttons of your mouse and be happy.
What I would like to see in the existing previews is a zoom slider.
2.2 has Guillotine right there in the menus (Image, Transform Guillotine).
What it lacks is a way to tie image sections to one another to give an effect like ROWSPAN and COLSPAN from HTML. As things stand, you have to manually tack the appropriate image pieces back together again after the guillotine. If there were a simple Merge Pieces tool to do this, it would suffice, but I would be greatly pleased if you could mark sections of a Guide line (between intersecting Guides) and indicate that you didn't want the pieces either side of it separated.
...put a text-box on the File Open dialog where you can type to choose a file (e.g. hidden files/directories) or give the navigator hints.
No, I'm not talking about the separate Location box which Ctrl-L brings up (although that is handy for pasting URLs from other programs), I'm talking about a typing target integrated with the existing panel.
- Add the Free/FixedAspect/FixedSize options from the Rectangular Select tool into the Crop tool.
- Add a "macro recorder" to make writing Script-Fu easier
- Add a simple "debug mode" to trace Script-Fu execution and/or hand off to the Script-Fu Console from the invokation dialog box
- Add a de-red-eye tool that's a bit more intelligent, specifically
- that identifies round or ovoid red-eyes rather than anything red
- that uses soft edges rather than doing scalpel-like total excision
- build a Script-Fu to do this either straight from the camera or with all of the layers in a designated image.
There's lots more, that's just what's on the tip of my mind right now.I miss it a fair bit when using PS.
Have you used GIMP 2.2 (or even a late 2.0)? They have menus on every image window. Purists will complain that it's cluttered, but I find it very handy to have a choice of right-clicking if you happen to be a long way from the menu bar, or clicking on the menu bar if it's not a function you use often (hunt and peck made easier) or the bar happens to be nearest.
Call it "PhotoShop Masque for GIMP".
Yes, I am serious. PS users in transition would just love it. And you'll die of old age waiting for a GIMP personality for PS.
You can tack together the free-floating tool windows and make them one if you like. Admittedly, this should be one of the first startup tips and isn't.
So yes, they did respond to that particular feedback, even if you didn't find out about it yet.
It's also relatively trivial in most WMs to make those floating windows always-on-toppish like the PS ones (only more flexible).
It could also be stated with much fairness that PhotoShop users form a disproportionate population of those complaining about same. And that if you don't like it, you're at liberty create a fork or a parallel patch set to implement the windows however you like them. Before anyone OMFGs me, compare the amount of effort involved in doing that with the amount of effort involved in creating the whole GIMP in the first place, and remember that with PS it's pretty close to impossible to do anything of this nature.
BTW, my sister-in-law uses The GIMP heavily, and swears by the floating windows and the tearoff menus.
..."semi-literate" down as "amazed". (-:
...else +1 informative for that post.
...flips their entire network the bird.
Can they really be that stupid? I mean, won't that level of stupidity be actionable when the sky really does fall and penguin little guts himself laughing?
PS, how would they react to you running the C#/.net stuff up on Mono?
I sent Bob a nice email pointing out how empty Laura's words were, and recommending sourcing sound-bites from Melanie Hollands instead.