I beg to differ - even though this wasn't my point I meant if they went broke and quit selling their software - computers will still be running - the world would still survive.
But to argue your point anyway if people in IT knew what to buy and what they were doing their shop should be able to survive without microsoft and their business should be able to function.
I know my shop would - but we don't allow microsft on the extranet or on any revenue generating servers (or any servers for that matter).
we also keep some linux live cds on hand for emergencies so people would still be able to get email and internet.
anybody that builds their infrastructure on windows is just plain nuts. all our email, dns, dhcp are linux/unix based boxes and have ran for years.
"I would not want to live in any of these countries, and the ability to pirate music to my heart's content would not make up for the other issues. Others may feel differently."
you do live in a country where you have the ability to pirate to your hearts content. just because you live in the US doesn't mean you can't pirate stuff. What the RIAA is doing doesn't do a thing to catching pirates. The only thing they are doing is limiting the legitmate buyers and how/where they play music. And now spyware is a legitimate business model all in the name of protecting IP.
your remarks are so off base here I don't know where to start.
RIAA are nothing but greedy middleman. the artists don't need them and I buy music from artists that do not use them. I don't pirate music but it isn't because my government tells me not to it is because it is ethically wrong and I will not do it.
What the RIAA is doing is an embarrassment to this country and I hope they go bankrupt and just basically disappear. With the internet I see that happening eventually I just hope I live long enough to see it.
I boycott the RIAA and I hope other americans do the same because of what they are doing is unconstitutional. I am glad the article named senators. At least I know who not to support next election.
"When costs are being driven into an equation, they have to be recovered somewhere," said Bill Smith, chief technology officer of BellSouth. ''Why do fundamental business economics not apply to the Internet?"
if this is the case then go ahead and build your fricken separate network for your iptv crap. leave the internet alone. or is it you are also using your network that is carrying the internet for your iptv and you want it back so you don't have to deploy more fiber.
if the above statement is true then all this is a non issue if you are building your second tier network with all this expensive fiber than go ahead an use it for iptv just leave what we go alone.
these guys are lying through their teeth and they can all go to hell.
how the government can be bought - IT professionals chose a solution based on an open standard and not on a vendor's product so it's CITIZENS can have access to their documents without having to buy a certain software product. What a concept.
But now they get restructured and told what to do because microsoft has some politicians in it's pockets.
Sure makes our forefathers proud doesn't it? Glad my dad fought in WWWII so these greedy politicians can sit on their fat arses and tell people how to do their jobs when they have no clue on how to do it themselves.
Anybody that doesn't think microsoft is running the government here in this instance is a fool and should wake up and smell the coffee. It pisses me off that more people aren't pissed off about this and let this happen.
stinks as far as I am concerned. why do we need two standards - so one can wipe out the other. microsoft is just doing this as a power play so they get to set the standards and not their customers or competition.
according to their history it says do not trust them - look at java, the halloween document, and the recent escapade that was the mp3 manufacturer order that said don't ship with any other codec but theirs.
they will eventually do something that makes the other standard absolete or non-existant and then they will get sued and pay off the plantiff and just go about their business. Meanwhile the other companies will go out of business.
It promotes it but at the same time slams linus when it can. All I am doing is reporting what the guy said at boot camp.
They need to stop trying tear down linux and start working with it. I think the teacher was way out of line comparing linus's quote to billy's 64k quote. gates isn't even in the same class of person as linus and they should never be grouped together.
solaris has it's place in the data center - it is great for high end stuff like their 6800's and above. but that is about it and sun just needs to realize that and try to help linux overtake microsoft for the desktop.
I think sun for some reason or another has their feeling hurt from linux and are just trying to match it on everything it does. Solaris just can't do that. I administer sun boxes for a living too and I think it is great for the 6800's and above. but linux is truely cross platform and I can have the same interface running on sparc, x86, amd64, itanium, pppc, and probably a few others that I have left out. solaris just can't match that and probably really shouldn't try.
She said the state embarked on an open standard open source mission. Wrong - it embarked on an open standard mission to ensure the CITIZENS could read THEIR documents for years on end without having to buy a piece of software from one company.
Open Source is all about IP and protecting it. It just enables everyone else to learn and grow from it.
what are you talking about? microsoft isn't any more accessible than open office - it is the third party apps that make it more accessible. I would suggest checking your facts before you post.
history tells us that we should not trust microsoft.
look at all their past actions with java, the halloween document etc etc I could go on and on.
they aren't working with the industry - look at their so called partners - do you see another software vendor in there no - you see hardware and some financial firms - that should tell you something.
this is nothing but some playground bullies getting their own gang together and saying we are doing our way or else.
we have to tell microsoft that we will do it our way or else.
so nice try microsoft - but we learned from java and all your other antics.
"Those people care about how fast they can get work done, and if their are improvements in UI and workflow in this version of Office, it's already got OpenOffice beat,"
not if those so-called improvements slow them down and they have to get training.
Slashdot Mirror
what is hotmail?
I don't allow any of his products in my house.
but is windows and office really necessary too.
it is delayed - because everything is so tied into the os that they can't do it any other way
finally someone with some fricken common sense.
this teacher should get a raise.
where I went to college we could not even bring a calculator to math class - that is the way it should be.
this is great and a trend I would love to see - get the fricken computers out of class period.
its not broken.
it works just fine - I did exactly that and had no trouble at all.
all shortcuts were there and the desktop was fully functional.
so now I chose between gnome and kde and the other 7 or 8 desktops I have installed -
it really isn't that hard
buy and recommend amd cpus - they blow intels away
funny how blackberry gets sued by a patent troll and now microsoft is getting in the market.
patents just seem to follow billy and steve wherever they go.
funny thing - probably just coincidence.
I have had these features with konqueror and firefox for the last two years.
such innovation
developers developers developers
you know billy and melinda were people of the year for time magazine for all their "generous contributions" (cough cough tax writeoffs) -
they have to get that money back somehow - lock them into a cell phone os - give it to them first but then make them upgrade later.
"innovation" at its best - good job billy - now if they only had a tv and or wall to project the computer screen.
I beg to differ - even though this wasn't my point I meant if they went broke and quit selling their software - computers will still be running - the world would still survive.
But to argue your point anyway if people in IT knew what to buy and what they were doing their shop should be able to survive without microsoft and their business should be able to function.
I know my shop would - but we don't allow microsft on the extranet or on any revenue generating servers (or any servers for that matter).
we also keep some linux live cds on hand for emergencies so people would still be able to get email and internet.
anybody that builds their infrastructure on windows is just plain nuts. all our email, dns, dhcp are linux/unix based boxes and have ran for years.
you couldn't pay me to take or look or do anything with microsoft's source code. microsoft seems to think that it is valuable or something.
well here is message to bill - if your source code went to cyberspace heaven today the world would still function fine without it.
so please take and keep your source code to yourself and go play with it by yourself.
"I would not want to live in any of these countries, and the ability to pirate music to my heart's content would not make up for the other issues. Others may feel differently."
you do live in a country where you have the ability to pirate to your hearts content.
just because you live in the US doesn't mean you can't pirate stuff. What the RIAA is doing doesn't do a thing to catching pirates. The only thing they are doing is limiting the legitmate buyers and how/where they play music. And now spyware is a legitimate business model all in the name of protecting IP.
your remarks are so off base here I don't know where to start.
RIAA are nothing but greedy middleman. the artists don't need them and I buy music from artists that do not use them. I don't pirate music but it isn't because my government tells me not to it is because it is ethically wrong and I will not do it.
What the RIAA is doing is an embarrassment to this country and I hope they go bankrupt and just basically disappear. With the internet I see that happening eventually I just hope I live long enough to see it.
I boycott the RIAA and I hope other americans do the same because of what they are doing is unconstitutional. I am glad the article named senators. At least I know who not to support next election.
a new drm business model for the MPAA and RIAA.
slimeballs
"When costs are being driven into an equation, they have to be recovered somewhere," said Bill Smith, chief technology officer of BellSouth. ''Why do fundamental business economics not apply to the Internet?"
if this is the case then go ahead and build your fricken separate network for your iptv crap. leave the internet alone. or is it you are also using your network that is carrying the internet for your iptv and you want it back so you don't have to deploy more fiber.
if the above statement is true then all this is a non issue if you are building your second tier network with all this expensive fiber than go ahead an use it for iptv just leave what we go alone.
these guys are lying through their teeth and they can all go to hell.
how the government can be bought - IT professionals chose a solution based on an open standard and not on a vendor's product so it's CITIZENS can have access to their documents without having to buy a certain software product. What a concept.
But now they get restructured and told what to do because microsoft has some politicians in it's pockets.
Sure makes our forefathers proud doesn't it? Glad my dad fought in WWWII so these greedy politicians can sit on their fat arses and tell people how to do their jobs when they have no clue on how to do it themselves.
Anybody that doesn't think microsoft is running the government here in this instance is a fool and should wake up and smell the coffee. It pisses me off that more people aren't pissed off about this and let this happen.
stinks as far as I am concerned. why do we need two standards - so one can wipe out the other. microsoft is just doing this as a power play so they get to set the standards and not their customers or competition.
according to their history it says do not trust them - look at java, the halloween document, and the recent escapade that was the mp3 manufacturer order that said don't ship with any other codec but theirs.
they will eventually do something that makes the other standard absolete or non-existant and then they will get sued and pay off the plantiff and just go about their business. Meanwhile the other companies will go out of business.
DO NOT TRUST MICROSOFT!!
now we can take out microsoft.
did the string come with the xbox or did he have to buy his own.
It promotes it but at the same time slams linus when it can. All I am doing is reporting what the guy said at boot camp.
They need to stop trying tear down linux and start working with it. I think the teacher was way out of line comparing linus's quote to billy's 64k quote. gates isn't even in the same class of person as linus and they should never be grouped together.
solaris has it's place in the data center - it is great for high end stuff like their 6800's and above. but that is about it and sun just needs to realize that and try to help linux overtake microsoft for the desktop.
I think sun for some reason or another has their feeling hurt from linux and are just trying to match it on everything it does. Solaris just can't do that. I administer sun boxes for a living too and I think it is great for the 6800's and above. but linux is truely cross platform and I can have the same interface running on sparc, x86, amd64, itanium, pppc, and probably a few others that I have left out. solaris just can't match that and probably really shouldn't try.
IP will be well and alive no matter what.
She said the state embarked on an open standard open source mission. Wrong - it embarked on an open standard mission to ensure the CITIZENS could read THEIR documents for years on end without having to buy a piece of software from one company.
Open Source is all about IP and protecting it. It just enables everyone else to learn and grow from it.
what are you talking about? microsoft isn't any more accessible than open office - it is the third party apps that make it more accessible. I would suggest checking your facts before you post.
history tells us that we should not trust microsoft.
look at all their past actions with java, the halloween document etc etc I could go on and on.
they aren't working with the industry - look at their so called partners - do you see another software vendor in there no - you see hardware and some financial firms - that should tell you something.
this is nothing but some playground bullies getting their own gang
together and saying we are doing our way or else.
we have to tell microsoft that we will do it our way or else.
so nice try microsoft - but we learned from java and all your other antics.
"Those people care about how fast they can get work done, and if their are improvements in UI and workflow in this version of Office, it's already got OpenOffice beat,"
not if those so-called improvements slow them down and they have to get training.
I just got it to work on my fc4 installation
something you did must not be right
it also works on my ubuntu installation.