Your post clearly says you're a really dumb fucking idiot to suggest herd-think doesn't exist on slashdot.
No. I'm saying that your particular claims of herd think validating your POV need to be substantiated. It is a logical fallacy to say, "Herd think exists, therefore I am a victim of it." But that's precisely the argument you just made in your vitriolic response.
Link or it didn't happen. I mean be serious, if you are going to claim that you wrote something and the reaction here condemns "the slashdot herd" to hypocrisy, lets see exactly what you are basing your claims on. I've got this funny feeling the reality of what happened isn't anywhere near as drastic as you want to make it out to be.
Or is it that you just expect everyone here to take it all on your word without any actual evidence? That would be rich.
I think we need more of a definition of what constitutes a "time out" - an idle tcp connection consumes practically no bandwidth and should only use resources on the end-points (i.e. the phone and the web server). So I don't see what sort of value the telco would gain by causing idle tcp connections to disconnect faster. If anything, it could lead to extra traffic as the connection gets re-established more frequently which probably means more than just the basic tcp 3-way handshake because it will involve higher layer protocols (login/password, etc).
As for changing towers, I don't think that matters as the phone doesn't renegotiate a new ip address just because of a tower hand-off.
I remember they refused government requests for search logs while Yahoo, MIcrosoft, etc. showed no resistance.
I don't remember them, being any more principled than any other service provider. Got a cite? They certainly cave to the DMCA notices in their search results. Something that I don't think they are even legally required to do since they aren't hosting the material.
But if you are saying that its "all or nothing" well that's just plain wrong. Just about all the big ISPs have different levels of service in different regions that they cover -- hell I have FIOS and yet their 150Mbps product is not available in my area. Plus, there ain't no good reason why an ISP dedicated to serving just the 5 boroughs shouldn't exist, after all, with millions of people in the city there ought to be plenty of customers.
You're completely ignorant. I work for Best Buy. When someone returns something, it is either restored and CLEARLY labeled with a giant blue sticker that says "Open Box Computer" or it is sent back to the factory to be melted down for parts. Period. You don't know what you're talking about at all.
I'm pretty sure I know exactly what I am talking about. Or perhaps you can explain how it is that the items in the "inspected by" boxes had a bunch of smudgy fingerprints on them and were missing internal plastic bags while the same items in the unmolested boxes were pristine?
This is exactly right. BBY didn't open it, it was returned by a customer and they are reselling it. It is illegal to sell a returned item as new, at least in the US.
My guess is that the "inspected by" stickers are their legal CYA - they still charged you the new price but they informed you it wasn't a new product by including those stickers.
FWIW, this happened to me yesterday. I ordered via "store pickup" some accessories for my new HP touchpad (that "touchstone" wireless charging station is really slick) and some of the boxes had those stickers. I decided not to make a fuss since I was getting a ~65% discount to begin with and the store was otherwise out of stock. But under other circumstances I would have refused the merchandise.
As long as the US has legislation like the PATRIOT ACT and the federal courts are fine eroding the 4th amendment, there will not be better alternatives.
The difference is that PATRIOT act stuff is limited in scope. The feds show up and demand the tracing of specific users. Google is all about wholesale data-harvesting of each and every user because that's their business model.
Don't even try to take this as a defense of the PATRIOT act. But, at least so far, we do not have a legal requirement for ISPs to record anything about all of their customers. Fear-mongering politicians keep trying to get such laws passed, but it hasn't happened yet.
No it doesn't. Some handsets can't be completely turned off. Take the battery out or use a foil bag.
This.
I will go so far as to say that most phones can not be completely turned off - and that's the way its been for at least a decade. And as you say, either pull the battery or put it in a shielded container (which will drain your battery really quick as your phone starts transmitting at max power trying to contact a cell tower).
Inception is a technical masterpiece. But it has zero heart and the "twist" is telegraphed practically from the start of the movie.
I liked The Prestige, by the same director, much more. And to make it relevant to the topic, The Prestige is SF too, with Tesla as a pivotal supporting character.
even though it was promised to only be used for external threats, recently the US Border Patrol in conjunction with local police recently used heat seeking drones to find pot plantations in the area and made arrests.
A citation would be nice. That is the kind of thing that ought to be widely documented to demonstrate exactly how this "security" feature creeps beyond the official justification.
Well OK, as soon as you have only good speech on the blogs and internet, we will see to it that there is no more censorship. Agreed?
You have fundamentally misinterpreted my point. You have basically embraced censorship by restating my goal as to somehow "remove all the bad speech."
You couldn't be more wrong.
Bad speech will always, always exist. If you censor it, it just goes underground where people who encounter it have even less of a chance of hearing any counter-arguments.
We need bad speech to be out in the open so that it can be refuted and so that we know who the people are who believe it. That's why I support and even encourage the most bigoted people to speak their minds in public, better for us all that we know who the assholes are and can choose to associate with them or not.
I'm surprised no one has already mentioned this -- Andresson is on the board of directors for HP. Last week HP announced they were dropping most hardware and converting to a "software" company. I think it's bullshit and so did a lot of people as their share price dropped 20% on the news.
So, Marc is doing spin control by trying to sell HP's new plan in the form of a editorial in the Wall-Street Journal. Don't try to read anything deeper into it than that.
Armchair quarterback: I bet if I added up your accomplishments against those of Linux Torvalds, you would be found wanting.
You don't need to be a baker to know when the bread is stale.
And while I think vranash is mostly off-base, I find your counterpoint to be of a class much worse than his criticisms because it doesn't attempt to bring about a better understanding of the situation, all it does is try to shout down someone you disagree with.
Because companies that pay us to do these things care an awful lot about how their site looks to the most amount of people. Then again, they hire people for "SEO," so it's not like they know what they're talking about. But who's going to tell them that?
Sounds to me like you are arguing yourself out of a business opportunity. If FF's rapid update schedule is a problem (or even if it isn't but your clients think it is) then that means more billable hours for you - hours that you don't even have to take the blame for screwing up, it's all Mozilla's "fault."
Kim is a family name (surname) in Korea and while most asians put the family name first, they don't do that in the US where these grants are handed out. So, Kim as a given name mostly contra-indicates asian. Wilfong is anglo too.
Of course the kind of person most likely to discriminate against someone because they think they are asian is probably least likely to really know much about asian names and would probably end up making the same error. Which would be ironic.
I've actually been a Nielsen family twice. The first time I still had a TV, but no antenna or cable hookup. (I had a VCR though.) Second time, I didn't even have a TV.
I tried explaining this to them, but they could never quite get the concept...
Near field communication is only as secure as the size and sensitivity of the nearest antenna. Just because your mobile phone has a weak antenna doesn't mean a malicious actor has to limit himself.
Yes, screw NFC - we would be a lot better off with 2D barcodes displayed on the phone and a camera on the POS terminal. If you need 2-way communication (which I doubt is really necessary) then just use the camera on the phone and a small (e-ink?) display on the POS terminal. Bonus in that no new tech on the consumer end is needed, every smart phone currently on the market has all you need to pull it off.
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I love how you constructed a "most likely" hypothetical scenario with no direct evidence and then used it to call someone names.
Which is exactly what the OP did. Do you see any direct evidence from him? Hell, he could have made it all up in his head for all we know.
Your post clearly says you're a really dumb fucking idiot to suggest herd-think doesn't exist on slashdot.
No. I'm saying that your particular claims of herd think validating your POV need to be substantiated. It is a logical fallacy to say, "Herd think exists, therefore I am a victim of it." But that's precisely the argument you just made in your vitriolic response.
Link or it didn't happen. I mean be serious, if you are going to claim that you wrote something and the reaction here condemns "the slashdot herd" to hypocrisy, lets see exactly what you are basing your claims on. I've got this funny feeling the reality of what happened isn't anywhere near as drastic as you want to make it out to be.
Or is it that you just expect everyone here to take it all on your word without any actual evidence? That would be rich.
I think we need more of a definition of what constitutes a "time out" - an idle tcp connection consumes practically no bandwidth and should only use resources on the end-points (i.e. the phone and the web server). So I don't see what sort of value the telco would gain by causing idle tcp connections to disconnect faster. If anything, it could lead to extra traffic as the connection gets re-established more frequently which probably means more than just the basic tcp 3-way handshake because it will involve higher layer protocols (login/password, etc).
As for changing towers, I don't think that matters as the phone doesn't renegotiate a new ip address just because of a tower hand-off.
I remember they refused government requests for search logs while Yahoo, MIcrosoft, etc. showed no resistance.
I don't remember them, being any more principled than any other service provider. Got a cite? They certainly cave to the DMCA notices in their search results. Something that I don't think they are even legally required to do since they aren't hosting the material.
Compensated? Sorry your meaning is not clear.
But if you are saying that its "all or nothing" well that's just plain wrong. Just about all the big ISPs have different levels of service in different regions that they cover -- hell I have FIOS and yet their 150Mbps product is not available in my area. Plus, there ain't no good reason why an ISP dedicated to serving just the 5 boroughs shouldn't exist, after all, with millions of people in the city there ought to be plenty of customers.
You're completely ignorant. I work for Best Buy. When someone returns something, it is either restored and CLEARLY labeled with a giant blue sticker that says "Open Box Computer" or it is sent back to the factory to be melted down for parts. Period. You don't know what you're talking about at all.
I'm pretty sure I know exactly what I am talking about.
Or perhaps you can explain how it is that the items in the "inspected by" boxes had a bunch of smudgy fingerprints on them and were missing internal plastic bags while the same items in the unmolested boxes were pristine?
I'd take it back and tell them it isn't new,
This is exactly right. BBY didn't open it, it was returned by a customer and they are reselling it. It is illegal to sell a returned item as new, at least in the US.
My guess is that the "inspected by" stickers are their legal CYA - they still charged you the new price but they informed you it wasn't a new product by including those stickers.
FWIW, this happened to me yesterday. I ordered via "store pickup" some accessories for my new HP touchpad (that "touchstone" wireless charging station is really slick) and some of the boxes had those stickers. I decided not to make a fuss since I was getting a ~65% discount to begin with and the store was otherwise out of stock. But under other circumstances I would have refused the merchandise.
That is a very densely populated area.
Doesn't seem to have helped NYC.
Both in the same market trying to subscribe the same customers is doing the job.
OMG, 20mbps!
Sorry dude, but that's a shit-bitrate. Get back to us when you can do 1Gbps for under $50
It would be nice to know what town you are talking about. Some slashdotter might be looking to move to a rural area with good internet.
Do our current ISPs offer better privacy?
YES.
As long as the US has legislation like the PATRIOT ACT and the federal courts are fine eroding the 4th amendment, there will not be better alternatives.
The difference is that PATRIOT act stuff is limited in scope. The feds show up and demand the tracing of specific users. Google is all about wholesale data-harvesting of each and every user because that's their business model.
Don't even try to take this as a defense of the PATRIOT act. But, at least so far, we do not have a legal requirement for ISPs to record anything about all of their customers. Fear-mongering politicians keep trying to get such laws passed, but it hasn't happened yet.
What the summary doesn't inform us is how long before you die you have to start this regimen in order to get the full 3-year benefit
It also doesn't address quality of life. I'd hate to put in all that effort just to be able to spend an extra 3 years bed-ridden...
No it doesn't. Some handsets can't be completely turned off. Take the battery out or use a foil bag.
This.
I will go so far as to say that most phones can not be completely turned off - and that's the way its been for at least a decade. And as you say, either pull the battery or put it in a shielded container (which will drain your battery really quick as your phone starts transmitting at max power trying to contact a cell tower).
Inception is a technical masterpiece.
But it has zero heart and the "twist" is telegraphed practically from the start of the movie.
I liked The Prestige, by the same director, much more.
And to make it relevant to the topic, The Prestige is SF too, with Tesla as a pivotal supporting character.
even though it was promised to only be used for external threats, recently the US Border Patrol in conjunction with local police recently used heat seeking drones to find pot plantations in the area and made arrests.
A citation would be nice. That is the kind of thing that ought to be widely documented to demonstrate exactly how this "security" feature creeps beyond the official justification.
Well OK, as soon as you have only good speech on the blogs and internet, we will see to it that there is no more censorship. Agreed?
You have fundamentally misinterpreted my point. You have basically embraced censorship by restating my goal as to somehow "remove all the bad speech."
You couldn't be more wrong.
Bad speech will always, always exist. If you censor it, it just goes underground where people who encounter it have even less of a chance of hearing any counter-arguments.
We need bad speech to be out in the open so that it can be refuted and so that we know who the people are who believe it. That's why I support and even encourage the most bigoted people to speak their minds in public, better for us all that we know who the assholes are and can choose to associate with them or not.
This makes a good case for IPV6 so every site/device will have their own IP instead of sharing one IP for a million blogs.
I'm afraid you came away from this story having learned the wrong lesson.
The fix isn't IPV6, the fix is to abolish censorship.
The only cure for bad speech is good speech, not no speech.
I'm surprised no one has already mentioned this -- Andresson is on the board of directors for HP. Last week HP announced they were dropping most hardware and converting to a "software" company. I think it's bullshit and so did a lot of people as their share price dropped 20% on the news.
So, Marc is doing spin control by trying to sell HP's new plan in the form of a editorial in the Wall-Street Journal. Don't try to read anything deeper into it than that.
Too bad a said this out on a public forum. Now I (assume) I can't patent it.
Most of the world is "first to file" not "first to invent" and, iirc, the US is in the process of chaning to "first to file" too.
Armchair quarterback: I bet if I added up your accomplishments against those of Linux Torvalds, you would be found wanting.
You don't need to be a baker to know when the bread is stale.
And while I think vranash is mostly off-base, I find your counterpoint to be of a class much worse than his criticisms because it doesn't attempt to bring about a better understanding of the situation, all it does is try to shout down someone you disagree with.
Because companies that pay us to do these things care an awful lot about how their site looks to the most amount of people. Then again, they hire people for "SEO," so it's not like they know what they're talking about. But who's going to tell them that?
Sounds to me like you are arguing yourself out of a business opportunity. If FF's rapid update schedule is a problem (or even if it isn't but your clients think it is) then that means more billable hours for you - hours that you don't even have to take the blame for screwing up, it's all Mozilla's "fault."
Kim Wilfong
Kim? Possibly Asian.
Kim is a family name (surname) in Korea and while most asians put the family name first, they don't do that in the US where these grants are handed out. So, Kim as a given name mostly contra-indicates asian. Wilfong is anglo too.
Of course the kind of person most likely to discriminate against someone because they think they are asian is probably least likely to really know much about asian names and would probably end up making the same error. Which would be ironic.
I've actually been a Nielsen family twice. The first time I still had a TV, but no antenna or cable hookup. (I had a VCR though.) Second time, I didn't even have a TV.
I tried explaining this to them, but they could never quite get the concept...
HA-Haw! You don't have a TV!
Oh, N i> elson ... nevemind!
Near field communication is only as secure as the size and sensitivity of the nearest antenna.
Just because your mobile phone has a weak antenna doesn't mean a malicious actor has to limit himself.
Yes, screw NFC - we would be a lot better off with 2D barcodes displayed on the phone and a camera on the POS terminal. If you need 2-way communication (which I doubt is really necessary) then just use the camera on the phone and a small (e-ink?) display on the POS terminal. Bonus in that no new tech on the consumer end is needed, every smart phone currently on the market has all you need to pull it off.