The reason it is more expensive has to do with economics of supply and demand, volume, etc.
Maybe you could explain why they have to charge a HIGHER price on a computer if they had to invest LESS money on it? A $0 licence fee is always cheaper than a $10 "discount" fee.
I don't think this is a real supply-demand issue, but rather pressure from big corporations such as Microsoft, with secret agreements to hinder the distribution of Linux systems. Oh, you sell Linux systems cheaper than your Windows systems? Fine, we'll change the price on your Windows licences to keep things "balanced".
a) They sell you expensive Intel chips. b) They sell you an expensive Microsoft Operating System.
Dell needs to realize that they could sell you a cheap AMD system with Linux installed. Given the variety on AMD chips, they could sell you low-end "desktops" or high-end "workstations".
I'm talking about Linux 2.6+. Not Linux 1.0 which was a hobby at the time. (Or are you saying most web servers in the world are running on a hobby project?)
IANASE (I Am Not A Sony Employee), but I think Sony has many divisions, their videogames (PS2) division, their hardware (CD players, radio, etc - ever heard of Xplod?) division, and of course, their evil music division.
These have very different goals and their methods may vary. And this is interesting - Sony Xplod plays MP3 CD's, how can you explain that, if Sony is a member of the EVIL anti-mp3 anti-sharing RIAA?
Anyway if you want some heads to roll, blame these guys for the rootkit.
Think of this: All the reported bugs have been fixed, you're about to make a new release, and a last minute change introduces an awry bug that forces you to make ANOTHER release.
And what happens if in that "another release" another guy makes ONE MORE last minute change and... well you get the idea.
I've seen this happen at sourceforge projects, and this is what gives Open Source such a bad reputation - buggy projects. Sure, 999 bugs have been fixed, but 10 major flaws are introduced with the next version. Just search any SF project's bugs for "crash" or "segfault", and you'll get the idea (and these are reports about RELEASES, not cvs). And why does this happen? Because of devs NOT RESPECTING the timings!
So, please guys, p-l-e-a-s-e, respect the timing! This is Linux we're talking about, not some hobby project.
Seriously - the name list is so long we could start naming HURRICANES after these!
I just want to know which one is the latest. Is something like "P9-MMX2" too much to ask? That way I can know I'm not being scammed because the processor would read P8 instead of P9.
It'd be much better to add TWO leap seconds every 36 months (that is 3 years). Or (insert some fractional number here) every 4 years, so that it gets done along with the leap year period.
You don't really expect users to start adding seconds to their digital clocks every N months, do you?
I recall a recent slashdot post explaining that the Tinfoil hats had to avoid DIRECT CONTACT with the head, otherwise they'd act as an antenna.
Do we see any kind of INSULATION between the tinfoil and the head in this picture (taken from TFA) ?
No!
So I propose the following experiment:
Get an AM/FM radio with telescopic antenna. Turn it on. Make sure the antenna is completely vertical.
Get some electrically-isolating material around it, like cardboard or plastic, or polyurethane foam. Put a roll of tinfoil paper over the cardboard and cover the antenna.
TOP-DOWN VIEW: ( . )
The . is the radio, the ( ) is the tinfoil
Now, for experiment 2, grab a small cable and connect the tinfoil to the antenna. If you can solder it, the better. Is the signal amplified?
For experiment 3, disconnect the cable and touch the tinfoil. What happens to the signal?
Now for the tinfoil hat experiment:
Cover ALL the tinfoil with plastic, and then glue it to make the hat. Then cover the insides of your plastic+tinfoil hat with polyurethane foam, and THEN do the experiments in TFA.
This scandal should go to the TV news everywhere. Someone who plas a legally-purchased sony CD and has no intention (AT ALL) to commit an illegal act, suddenly can find his PC infected by viruses, backdoors, and turn his PC into a zombie used to send SPAM, hack into webservers, and whatnot.
So, if you don't want to get arrested for hacking, you have to go against the DMCA and break the Sony CD's DRM, and then copy its tracks to a safe, blank CD. OR, just download the mp3's from someone else.
Summarizing: If you want to be found innocent, you have to break the law.
Remember that the industry has ties with the government. If the govt. isn't required to use Microsoft Office, companies (and their workers) can save that money, too.
Millions of dollars saved from purchasing copies of Microsoft Office. Instead of concentrating money in the hands of a few (*cough Microsoft cough*), poor or even mid-class people can spend that money in more important things.
Perhaps I should ellaborate. I've also watched other french cartoons (one about a heroine of the french revolution - forgot the name, another one about a detective whose nemesis was a villain named Murdoc). I wasn't impressed at all by these. The plots and characters were so stereotypical, like outdated by about 20 years. I watched other french cartoons, one or two episodes, but I didn't like them at all and I even forgot about them. But maybe it's just me. I guess I'll have to give them the benefit of the doubt.
Regarding code Lyoko, yes, I've seen it, and yes, I think it sucks, too! Maybe it's just me, that when I watch something that I *think* is Anime, i expect VERY GOOD PLOTS and VERY GOOD art.
Now, I don't think everything french sucks. Delphine Software, a french game company made two of my favorite videogames: "Another World", and "Flashback". And two of my favorite writers are french: Jules Verne and Victor Hugo. Just so you don't think I have anything against the french. It's just their cartoons (anime-like or not) that I find boring and unsatisfying.
Since the Avian flu video couldn't be purchased online because it sucks, and the DVD's can't be purchased because they have a rootkit, the State of Massachussets proposed to download an Open Document version of it. Luckily, this became available for all, including intelligent design proponents in Kansas who realized someone very evil had to design those viruses, because they couldn't just simply evolve. In related news, a new torrent file of the Avian Flu virus was distributed in Hong Kong, but a misunderstanding led to the government think that the distributor was actually committing bioterrorism, so they got him arrested. In his defense, he said: "the Flying Spaguetti Monster made me do it."
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The reason it is more expensive has to do with economics of supply and demand, volume, etc.
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Maybe you could explain why they have to charge a HIGHER price on a computer if they had to invest LESS money on it? A $0 licence fee is always cheaper than a $10 "discount" fee.
I don't think this is a real supply-demand issue, but rather pressure from big corporations such as Microsoft, with secret agreements to hinder the distribution of Linux systems. Oh, you sell Linux systems cheaper than your Windows systems? Fine, we'll change the price on your Windows licences to keep things "balanced".
(Supply-demand my
a) They sell you expensive Intel chips.
b) They sell you an expensive Microsoft Operating System.
Dell needs to realize that they could sell you a cheap AMD system with Linux installed. Given the variety on AMD chips, they could sell you low-end "desktops" or high-end "workstations".
Can anybody say "guestbook"?
I'm talking about Linux 2.6+. Not Linux 1.0 which was a hobby at the time. (Or are you saying most web servers in the world are running on a hobby project?)
I guess I wasn't explicit enough. My "I agree" post was meant to be a joke (a reference to the EULA poll on /.)
Thankfully we all read our EULAs completely.
I agree.
IANASE (I Am Not A Sony Employee), but I think Sony has many divisions, their videogames (PS2) division, their hardware (CD players, radio, etc - ever heard of Xplod?) division, and of course, their evil music division.
These have very different goals and their methods may vary. And this is interesting - Sony Xplod plays MP3 CD's, how can you explain that, if Sony is a member of the EVIL anti-mp3 anti-sharing RIAA?
Anyway if you want some heads to roll, blame these guys for the rootkit.
TFA only says that they pay undisclosed amounts of money to that organization. But where's the legal stuff? The company's policies?
In any case, this initiative, with the appropriate safeguards, is exactly what the patent system needs.
Think of this: All the reported bugs have been fixed, you're about to make a new release, and a last minute change introduces an awry bug that forces you to make ANOTHER release.
And what happens if in that "another release" another guy makes ONE MORE last minute change and... well you get the idea.
I've seen this happen at sourceforge projects, and this is what gives Open Source such a bad reputation - buggy projects. Sure, 999 bugs have been fixed, but 10 major flaws are introduced with the next version. Just search any SF project's bugs for "crash" or "segfault", and you'll get the idea (and these are reports about RELEASES, not cvs). And why does this happen? Because of devs NOT RESPECTING the timings!
So, please guys, p-l-e-a-s-e, respect the timing! This is Linux we're talking about, not some hobby project.
Duron, Athlon, Itanium, Centrino, Xeon, Centron - ARGH!
Seriously - the name list is so long we could start naming HURRICANES after these!
I just want to know which one is the latest. Is something like "P9-MMX2" too much to ask? That way I can know I'm not being scammed because the processor would read P8 instead of P9.
It'd be much better to add TWO leap seconds every 36 months (that is 3 years). Or (insert some fractional number here) every 4 years, so that it gets done along with the leap year period.
You don't really expect users to start adding seconds to their digital clocks every N months, do you?
I recall a recent slashdot post explaining that the Tinfoil hats had to avoid DIRECT CONTACT with the head, otherwise they'd act as an antenna.
Do we see any kind of INSULATION between the tinfoil and the head in this picture (taken from TFA) ?
No!
So I propose the following experiment:
Get an AM/FM radio with telescopic antenna. Turn it on. Make sure the antenna is completely vertical.
Get some electrically-isolating material around it, like cardboard or plastic, or polyurethane foam.
Put a roll of tinfoil paper over the cardboard and cover the antenna.
TOP-DOWN VIEW: ( . )
The . is the radio, the ( ) is the tinfoil
Now, for experiment 2, grab a small cable and connect the tinfoil to the antenna. If you can solder it, the better.
Is the signal amplified?
For experiment 3, disconnect the cable and touch the tinfoil. What happens to the signal?
Now for the tinfoil hat experiment:
Cover ALL the tinfoil with plastic, and then glue it to make the hat. Then cover the insides of your plastic+tinfoil hat with polyurethane foam, and THEN do the experiments in TFA.
This scandal should go to the TV news everywhere. Someone who plas a legally-purchased sony CD and has no intention (AT ALL) to commit an illegal act, suddenly can find his PC infected by viruses, backdoors, and turn his PC into a zombie used to send SPAM, hack into webservers, and whatnot.
So, if you don't want to get arrested for hacking, you have to go against the DMCA and break the Sony CD's DRM, and then copy its tracks to a safe, blank CD. OR, just download the mp3's from someone else.
Summarizing: If you want to be found innocent, you have to break the law.
Only in America!
will that affect Sony PS3 prices? :D
Just to clarify.
"For this Christmas, I want a game of Captain Slaughter and a death in Devil's Island..."
(thinks for a second)
"... and peace and good will for all people on Earth".
(Joke courtesy of Robotman by Jim Meddick)
Remember that the industry has ties with the government. If the govt. isn't required to use Microsoft Office, companies (and their workers) can save that money, too.
I just watch on the news: Another riot in france... but I see no political analysis on this thing. Why the riots? Who are those people?
Millions of dollars saved from purchasing copies of Microsoft Office. Instead of concentrating money in the hands of a few (*cough Microsoft cough*), poor or even mid-class people can spend that money in more important things.
Yes, they can.
Enter your Google Earth search:
[ Carmen Sandiego ]
Your search returned no matches.
Perhaps Google could give us a hand.
Google Patents (TM). Hmmmm....
1. Have new idea.
:(
2. Patent it.
3. Profit!!
Perhaps I should ellaborate. I've also watched other french cartoons (one about a heroine of the french revolution - forgot the name, another one about a detective whose nemesis was a villain named Murdoc). I wasn't impressed at all by these. The plots and characters were so stereotypical, like outdated by about 20 years. I watched other french cartoons, one or two episodes, but I didn't like them at all and I even forgot about them. But maybe it's just me. I guess I'll have to give them the benefit of the doubt.
Regarding code Lyoko, yes, I've seen it, and yes, I think it sucks, too! Maybe it's just me, that when I watch something that I *think* is Anime, i expect VERY GOOD PLOTS and VERY GOOD art.
Now, I don't think everything french sucks. Delphine Software, a french game company made two of my favorite videogames: "Another World", and "Flashback". And two of my favorite writers are french: Jules Verne and Victor Hugo. Just so you don't think I have anything against the french. It's just their cartoons (anime-like or not) that I find boring and unsatisfying.
Since the Avian flu video couldn't be purchased online because it sucks, and the DVD's can't be purchased because they have a rootkit, the State of Massachussets proposed to download an Open Document version of it. Luckily, this became available for all, including intelligent design proponents in Kansas who realized someone very evil had to design those viruses, because they couldn't just simply evolve. In related news, a new torrent file of the Avian Flu virus was distributed in Hong Kong, but a misunderstanding led to the government think that the distributor was actually committing bioterrorism, so they got him arrested. In his defense, he said: "the Flying Spaguetti Monster made me do it."
Oh, thanks for the info. Hmmm now I think I understand why they suck so much :P