Yet another weapon in the arsenal of the doomed Empire that will amount to nothing. A complete and total waste of money from start to finish; nothing but welfare for Boeing and Raytheon. The fact is no collection of military hardware will prevent a people from seeking self-government and self-determination. All of these weapons used to keep al-Maliki and Hamid Karzai in office just prove how corrupt and illegitimate the occupations of Iraq and Afghanistan are. No amount of military power, short of genocide, will crystalize these countries as satraps of America.
In fact, America is so stupid, that the same pathetic fags from Iraq War I who were surrendering to CNN cameramen have now become brave and determined fighters. How did you accomplish this, America? My mind is boggled by just how idiotic the actions of your corporate-military-political axis have been. Of course, it's no surprise when you fund your own enemies. The Nation recently had an article, "How the US Funds the Taliban." You pay the Taliban not to attack your convoys and then they turn around and use that money to buy weapons to attack convoys. What a comedy! I guess Kissinger was right: soldiers are dumb stupid animals to be used for foreign policy. Not only does America massacre civilians in occupied nations like clockwork, it also sets up its own soldiers as human sacrifices in order to enrich military contractors!
The USA is a stupid, evil Empire. The Black Iron Prison, the Fourth Reich, Satan's will made manifest on Earth. No wonder hunger is epidemic in your streets and millions of people are homeless while millions of homes sit empty.
But the very funniest part - is that you're next! The government of the USA which is willing to massacre tens of thousands of civilians who had no involvement in 9/11 whatsoever doesn't give a damn about you. All these weapons and surveilleince techniques; all this spying on social networks and guilt-by-association ploys: you are the next victim. The moment it's more profitable for Goldman Sachs that you be dead instead of alive, you had better believe these bastards will come up with a justification for it. You had better believe it. Maybe they'll sell it all this great new technology to China to pay off our debt and then stand aside, as we bribe the Pakistani government to stand aside, or the Lebanese government to stand aside - while China uses it to massacre Americans by the tens of thousands. Oh evil Empire, reap what you have sown!
Number of suicide bombers in Iraq before US invasion: 0
Number of suicide bombers in Iraq after US invasion: countless
From where I'm sitting, it looks like your country paid terrorist organizations like Jundallah and set Muslims up to kill each other. Funny how there was so little violence in Pakistan 2 years ago, but today there are bombings across the country on a weekly basis. Could it be tied to the puppet regime in Pakistan which supports US strikes on its own people that have killed countless ethnic Pashtun civilians? No, of course not... it's because they're Muslums!
You fucking fool how long ago was it that Europeans were killing one another by the tens of millions?
It seems obvious to me that these fears have nothing to do with the magical date of 2012. They are manifestations of peoples' subconscious realization that they live in a diabolical empire on its last legs on the world stage. America is losing its wars in the Middle East, having a mockery made of it by Israel's colonization of Palestinian land and destruction of their homes, and is collapsing economically like the Soviet Union. People may not consciously realize that their empire is at an end and their way of life finished, but their conscience revolts and such fears as these bubble up to the surface.
You are well and truly finished, finished like the Mayans. You shit the bed and now you have to sleep in it. You have waged wars of conquest, you have allowed your politicians and bankers and military contractors to loot you with barely a whimper, you have ruined your environment, you have abandoned your fellow human beings and you have abandoned God. It should be no surprise that some people feel guilt more acutely, but misunderstand why they feel guilty and how they will reap what they have sown.
If only these submarines would have been able to carry out their missions! It's possible that they could have killed military or political ringleaders whose decisions led the the dropping of atomic bombs on two civilian cities in one of the most cowardly attacks on civilians and civilian infrastructure in world history. All that serves to be learned from WWII is that the rules are written by the victors to punish the defeated and "war crimes" are only committed by the losers.
I am so sick of listening to you stupid, ugly, fat buffoons whining about EVERYTHING. If it weren't for Goldman Sachs, you wouldn't have a big television, advanced computer, or 12 socks for $2 at Wal-Mart. If it weren't for Shell and Exxon, your fat asses would have to WALK everywhere and you'd die of starvation before making it two blocks to the shopping center. If it weren't for the MPAA, you'd have nothing to watch, because you are functionally retarded and have the creativity of a three day old turd. So shut up and take it. If the MPAA wants to take away your internet because you're a bunch of insipid thieves, you should thank them that you ever had the privilege of it to begin with.
Everything you own was built and designed and manufactured and distributed and funded by your betters. You eat because of Wall St. You drink because of the Federal Reserve. You breathe because of Raytheon and Boeing. Your empty eyes are filled with creative visions because of the MPAA and your ears resonate with the music of the spheres because of the RIAA. You are all filth supported at the trough by the generous and merciful sponsorship of corporations who are better than you will ever be. So stop your whining and be thankful you have anything at all instead of complaining that your theft is curtailed in the most minor of ways.
I just wanted to add the Resident Evil 4 was wayyy more fun on the Wii. Something about lining up the Wiimote/zapper and scoring headshots was deeply satisfying in a way just holding a controller wasn't.
Since this is becoming a console flamewar, I own both a PS3 and a Wii. I am happy with both of them. I play Bioshock and Fallout on the PS3. I play Wii Sports, HotD Overkill, and Mario Galaxy on the Wii. When I have friends over, it's usually the Wii that gets booted up. When I want an immersive single player experience, it's the PS3. They're both have some really fun games. They both have some total crap. What's the big deal?
If I were Goldman Sachs, the Federal Reserve would loan it to me at 0.5% and I would have to be a Mongoloid to not make a fortune off of it. But I'm little ol' me, a working class civilian, and I receive no such benefits.
They print money, loan it out to favored corporations, and then those favorites do the government's bidding. I have little doubt that this Ares rocket is more about ICBMs and military applications than getting a flesh-bag into space. It's the Soviet Union all over again, and the average, intelligent, well-educated Slashdotter doesn't have the sense God gave a turnip.
I am having trouble understanding Spain as some kind of good guy. They committed genocide, wiped out dozens of peoples, cultures, languages, stole an outrageous fortune from the people who had worked to bring it out of the Earth, and set the stage for the ethnic cleansing of two continents.
So you think I should invest $10,000,000 in Lockheed right? But since I'm not the government, it's not okay for me to print money in my basement and then transfer it to a few preferential firms under the banner of science!
Oh, if I were the government, I'd have you all locked up for lesse-majiste.
I wonder how the natives of Haiti would have felt about such a proposition? As if Europe was the center of the universe? As if no one could make progress except for Europe?
Science is an investment, and you make investments in hopes that they will be profitable in the future. However, you cannot make an investment if you do not have any money. If I invested $10,000,000 in Lockheed today, maybe I'd have $20,000,000 twenty years from now. The big hole in this argument is I don't have $10,000,000! I wish I was the government, and you all looked to me for technology and progress. Then I could spend as much money as I wanted and never be held accountable to any budget! And if anyone criticized me, I'd just mock them for standing in the way of progress.
Apply econ to econ. Keynesian economics exists in an incestuous relationship with the state it is paid to support. Austrian economics is common sense applied on a national scale. I can't believe I have to explain to you that you shouldn't buy things you can't afford; nations shouldn't buy things they can't afford; as if you were a child. Any 101 class exists only to create a series of illusions that 201, 301, and 401 exist to cure you of. And lastly, Paul Krugman deserved his prize in economics about as much as Obama Kissinger deserved his prize in peace.
I want everyone on Slashdot to send me the entire contents of their bank account. In return, I solemnly swear I will spend almost all of it on trying to create a handheld device capable of diagnosing cancer. It would clearly be of great benefit to the human race. What? What's that? But it's for science! Are you against progress, you knuckle-dragging Cro-Magnon barbarian? How could you be against it if it's for science!?
It's just welfare for people who drink expensive bourbon.
You are broke! I want Uncharted 2. I don't buy it, because I do not have any more money. Unlike your nation, I don't apply for a Chinese credit card and ring it up because I am broke! I like to live within my means, instead of appealing to the working people of China for yet another loan. America is the deadbeat drunkard cousin of the world who always needs $2000 for this great new business idea he has. When you are broke, when you are twelve trillion dollars in debt, you have to stop spending money! It boggles my mind that the same people who laugh at the SNL skit about DON'T BUY SHIT YOU CAN'T AFFORD turn around and expect their government to do just that unto infinity.
You are mistaken. I gave the State God Almighty their "registration" money, and then they decided that my car needed $500 in repairs despite the fact its ACTUAL EMISSIONS are well within state guidelines and, in fact, quite exceed them.
Why anyone believes such things, I'll never understand. The government is a parasite and I, the taxpayer, am the host. Well, I can't afford its nonsense any longer. I'm driving around an unregistered car because I can't afford to comply with the incoherent burblings coming from the plutocrats in Sacramento. So my patience for NASA and its antics is wearing awfully thin. But you're right towards the end - NASA is, in the long run, not our biggest problem. But we have to start thinking about how much this crap COSTS. $500 million? That's $3-4 taken out of my last paycheck. Just for this project. I can't afford to fund these projects, or the war, or saving GM, or bailing out Wall St. -
Where does the money COME FROM? Especially in a burgeoning depression? A government that produces surpluses, though it does so on the backs of the people, at least can justify some absurd pork and waste. On the other hand, a government that has an over ONE TRILLION DOLLAR BUDGET DEFICIT cannot afford to shoot giant phalluses into space. Period. You are out of fucking money. Clean up your own house first, that is my point.
America is a country in which millions of people are homeless and millions of homes sit empty, unoccupied. Where is the government getting the money to waste on the stupid foolishness that is space exploration at a time like this? Space is a frontier for our great-grandchildren to consider, as for us, perhaps we should get to work cleaning the Pacific Garbage Patch or feeding Africa. There is more than enough prosperity, more than enough resources in the world for everyone to have food and shelter and clean water and even 1080p televisions. Instead, we bail out wall st. and give NASA endless resources that produce nothing of value for the average human being. The scientific triumphalism NASA represents is just modern day bread-and-circuses aimed at the Intelligentsia.
While America circles the bowl, blowing trillions on saving failed banks and failed wars, the African continent has nowhere to go but up. A 2% per year increase in GDP is looking mighty fine compared to Western nations backsliding into tent cities and soup kitchens.
Not everyone wants the police in their home, rifling through their possessions, looting^w removing their computer, video game consoles, and HDTVs as "evidence," and otherwise violating their privacy.
The human being can be defective in many ways. Some people are born with genetic defects like Down's Syndrome. Others have physical deformities, or brain damage. I think there is ANOTHER problem that can strike the human being, another form of retardation. I think you are ETHICALLY RETARDED. No matter how intelligent, no matter how well-studied, you can still be a defective person if you have defective ethics. I don't see any point in trying to reason with a human being who considers anyone who opposes the will of the leaders of his tribe to be terrorists or enemy combatants or whatever the designation of the week is. I don't see any point in trying to reason with you because there is NOTHING, no crime, no horror, that the ethically retarded human is not capable of rationalizing.
If we are at war with Afghanistan, and there is no due process on the battlefield, then I would consider it perfectly justifiable for the Afghanis to steal a Pakistani nuke and detonate it in an American city. All the people who think it was morally sound to use nukes on Japan DURING WAR shouldn't cry if the Taliban nukes San Diego, a clear military target. You don't carry your reasoning all the way through. YOU are the special ones whose lives matter, and THEY are just them - targets.
How many weddings, funerals, markets, and religious services have the drones bombed? Many, many, many. Look at it this way. There ARE terrorists in Afghanistan which do cruel things, without a doubt. But why is bombing their neighborhood considered and appropriate response? Should the US Government drop 2-ton bombs on Mafia don's surburban homes? Why not? It would protect American police WARGARBL. You would be insane with anger if the government decided to solve its problems with gun running by blasting the house and half the block from 40,000 feet. But you don't mind when they do it to Afghanis, because ---- ? As to your claims that the United States is morally sound because it doesn't commit open genocide (anymore,) I find that point of view to be the sole providence of the fucking insane.
Now that the reign of the petrodollar is over, console yourself with the fact that America will no longer be able to fuel its multifarious instruments of death. I just hope that we withdraw all our soldiers from the Middle East while it's still an option.
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Yet another weapon in the arsenal of the doomed Empire that will amount to nothing. A complete and total waste of money from start to finish; nothing but welfare for Boeing and Raytheon. The fact is no collection of military hardware will prevent a people from seeking self-government and self-determination. All of these weapons used to keep al-Maliki and Hamid Karzai in office just prove how corrupt and illegitimate the occupations of Iraq and Afghanistan are. No amount of military power, short of genocide, will crystalize these countries as satraps of America.
In fact, America is so stupid, that the same pathetic fags from Iraq War I who were surrendering to CNN cameramen have now become brave and determined fighters. How did you accomplish this, America? My mind is boggled by just how idiotic the actions of your corporate-military-political axis have been. Of course, it's no surprise when you fund your own enemies. The Nation recently had an article, "How the US Funds the Taliban." You pay the Taliban not to attack your convoys and then they turn around and use that money to buy weapons to attack convoys. What a comedy! I guess Kissinger was right: soldiers are dumb stupid animals to be used for foreign policy. Not only does America massacre civilians in occupied nations like clockwork, it also sets up its own soldiers as human sacrifices in order to enrich military contractors!
The USA is a stupid, evil Empire. The Black Iron Prison, the Fourth Reich, Satan's will made manifest on Earth. No wonder hunger is epidemic in your streets and millions of people are homeless while millions of homes sit empty.
But the very funniest part - is that you're next! The government of the USA which is willing to massacre tens of thousands of civilians who had no involvement in 9/11 whatsoever doesn't give a damn about you. All these weapons and surveilleince techniques; all this spying on social networks and guilt-by-association ploys: you are the next victim. The moment it's more profitable for Goldman Sachs that you be dead instead of alive, you had better believe these bastards will come up with a justification for it. You had better believe it. Maybe they'll sell it all this great new technology to China to pay off our debt and then stand aside, as we bribe the Pakistani government to stand aside, or the Lebanese government to stand aside - while China uses it to massacre Americans by the tens of thousands. Oh evil Empire, reap what you have sown!
This is easy to refute.
Number of suicide bombers in Iraq before US invasion: 0
Number of suicide bombers in Iraq after US invasion: countless
From where I'm sitting, it looks like your country paid terrorist organizations like Jundallah and set Muslims up to kill each other. Funny how there was so little violence in Pakistan 2 years ago, but today there are bombings across the country on a weekly basis. Could it be tied to the puppet regime in Pakistan which supports US strikes on its own people that have killed countless ethnic Pashtun civilians? No, of course not... it's because they're Muslums!
You fucking fool how long ago was it that Europeans were killing one another by the tens of millions?
It seems obvious to me that these fears have nothing to do with the magical date of 2012. They are manifestations of peoples' subconscious realization that they live in a diabolical empire on its last legs on the world stage. America is losing its wars in the Middle East, having a mockery made of it by Israel's colonization of Palestinian land and destruction of their homes, and is collapsing economically like the Soviet Union. People may not consciously realize that their empire is at an end and their way of life finished, but their conscience revolts and such fears as these bubble up to the surface.
You are well and truly finished, finished like the Mayans. You shit the bed and now you have to sleep in it. You have waged wars of conquest, you have allowed your politicians and bankers and military contractors to loot you with barely a whimper, you have ruined your environment, you have abandoned your fellow human beings and you have abandoned God. It should be no surprise that some people feel guilt more acutely, but misunderstand why they feel guilty and how they will reap what they have sown.
If only these submarines would have been able to carry out their missions! It's possible that they could have killed military or political ringleaders whose decisions led the the dropping of atomic bombs on two civilian cities in one of the most cowardly attacks on civilians and civilian infrastructure in world history. All that serves to be learned from WWII is that the rules are written by the victors to punish the defeated and "war crimes" are only committed by the losers.
I am so sick of listening to you stupid, ugly, fat buffoons whining about EVERYTHING. If it weren't for Goldman Sachs, you wouldn't have a big television, advanced computer, or 12 socks for $2 at Wal-Mart. If it weren't for Shell and Exxon, your fat asses would have to WALK everywhere and you'd die of starvation before making it two blocks to the shopping center. If it weren't for the MPAA, you'd have nothing to watch, because you are functionally retarded and have the creativity of a three day old turd. So shut up and take it. If the MPAA wants to take away your internet because you're a bunch of insipid thieves, you should thank them that you ever had the privilege of it to begin with.
Everything you own was built and designed and manufactured and distributed and funded by your betters. You eat because of Wall St. You drink because of the Federal Reserve. You breathe because of Raytheon and Boeing. Your empty eyes are filled with creative visions because of the MPAA and your ears resonate with the music of the spheres because of the RIAA. You are all filth supported at the trough by the generous and merciful sponsorship of corporations who are better than you will ever be. So stop your whining and be thankful you have anything at all instead of complaining that your theft is curtailed in the most minor of ways.
I just wanted to add the Resident Evil 4 was wayyy more fun on the Wii. Something about lining up the Wiimote/zapper and scoring headshots was deeply satisfying in a way just holding a controller wasn't.
Since this is becoming a console flamewar, I own both a PS3 and a Wii. I am happy with both of them. I play Bioshock and Fallout on the PS3. I play Wii Sports, HotD Overkill, and Mario Galaxy on the Wii. When I have friends over, it's usually the Wii that gets booted up. When I want an immersive single player experience, it's the PS3. They're both have some really fun games. They both have some total crap. What's the big deal?
Arabic TLDs are a threat to national security
If I were Goldman Sachs, the Federal Reserve would loan it to me at 0.5% and I would have to be a Mongoloid to not make a fortune off of it. But I'm little ol' me, a working class civilian, and I receive no such benefits.
They print money, loan it out to favored corporations, and then those favorites do the government's bidding. I have little doubt that this Ares rocket is more about ICBMs and military applications than getting a flesh-bag into space. It's the Soviet Union all over again, and the average, intelligent, well-educated Slashdotter doesn't have the sense God gave a turnip.
I am having trouble understanding Spain as some kind of good guy. They committed genocide, wiped out dozens of peoples, cultures, languages, stole an outrageous fortune from the people who had worked to bring it out of the Earth, and set the stage for the ethnic cleansing of two continents.
So you think I should invest $10,000,000 in Lockheed right? But since I'm not the government, it's not okay for me to print money in my basement and then transfer it to a few preferential firms under the banner of science!
Oh, if I were the government, I'd have you all locked up for lesse-majiste.
I wonder how the natives of Haiti would have felt about such a proposition? As if Europe was the center of the universe? As if no one could make progress except for Europe?
Science is an investment, and you make investments in hopes that they will be profitable in the future. However, you cannot make an investment if you do not have any money. If I invested $10,000,000 in Lockheed today, maybe I'd have $20,000,000 twenty years from now. The big hole in this argument is I don't have $10,000,000! I wish I was the government, and you all looked to me for technology and progress. Then I could spend as much money as I wanted and never be held accountable to any budget! And if anyone criticized me, I'd just mock them for standing in the way of progress.
Apply econ to econ. Keynesian economics exists in an incestuous relationship with the state it is paid to support. Austrian economics is common sense applied on a national scale. I can't believe I have to explain to you that you shouldn't buy things you can't afford; nations shouldn't buy things they can't afford; as if you were a child. Any 101 class exists only to create a series of illusions that 201, 301, and 401 exist to cure you of. And lastly, Paul Krugman deserved his prize in economics about as much as Obama Kissinger deserved his prize in peace.
I want everyone on Slashdot to send me the entire contents of their bank account. In return, I solemnly swear I will spend almost all of it on trying to create a handheld device capable of diagnosing cancer. It would clearly be of great benefit to the human race. What? What's that? But it's for science! Are you against progress, you knuckle-dragging Cro-Magnon barbarian? How could you be against it if it's for science!?
It's just welfare for people who drink expensive bourbon.
You are broke! I want Uncharted 2. I don't buy it, because I do not have any more money. Unlike your nation, I don't apply for a Chinese credit card and ring it up because I am broke! I like to live within my means, instead of appealing to the working people of China for yet another loan. America is the deadbeat drunkard cousin of the world who always needs $2000 for this great new business idea he has. When you are broke, when you are twelve trillion dollars in debt, you have to stop spending money! It boggles my mind that the same people who laugh at the SNL skit about DON'T BUY SHIT YOU CAN'T AFFORD turn around and expect their government to do just that unto infinity.
You are mistaken. I gave the State God Almighty their "registration" money, and then they decided that my car needed $500 in repairs despite the fact its ACTUAL EMISSIONS are well within state guidelines and, in fact, quite exceed them.
Why anyone believes such things, I'll never understand. The government is a parasite and I, the taxpayer, am the host. Well, I can't afford its nonsense any longer. I'm driving around an unregistered car because I can't afford to comply with the incoherent burblings coming from the plutocrats in Sacramento. So my patience for NASA and its antics is wearing awfully thin. But you're right towards the end - NASA is, in the long run, not our biggest problem. But we have to start thinking about how much this crap COSTS. $500 million? That's $3-4 taken out of my last paycheck. Just for this project. I can't afford to fund these projects, or the war, or saving GM, or bailing out Wall St. -
You are broke!
Where does the money COME FROM? Especially in a burgeoning depression? A government that produces surpluses, though it does so on the backs of the people, at least can justify some absurd pork and waste. On the other hand, a government that has an over ONE TRILLION DOLLAR BUDGET DEFICIT cannot afford to shoot giant phalluses into space. Period. You are out of fucking money. Clean up your own house first, that is my point.
America is a country in which millions of people are homeless and millions of homes sit empty, unoccupied. Where is the government getting the money to waste on the stupid foolishness that is space exploration at a time like this? Space is a frontier for our great-grandchildren to consider, as for us, perhaps we should get to work cleaning the Pacific Garbage Patch or feeding Africa. There is more than enough prosperity, more than enough resources in the world for everyone to have food and shelter and clean water and even 1080p televisions. Instead, we bail out wall st. and give NASA endless resources that produce nothing of value for the average human being. The scientific triumphalism NASA represents is just modern day bread-and-circuses aimed at the Intelligentsia.
While America circles the bowl, blowing trillions on saving failed banks and failed wars, the African continent has nowhere to go but up. A 2% per year increase in GDP is looking mighty fine compared to Western nations backsliding into tent cities and soup kitchens.
Not everyone wants the police in their home, rifling through their possessions, looting^w removing their computer, video game consoles, and HDTVs as "evidence," and otherwise violating their privacy.
The human being can be defective in many ways. Some people are born with genetic defects like Down's Syndrome. Others have physical deformities, or brain damage. I think there is ANOTHER problem that can strike the human being, another form of retardation. I think you are ETHICALLY RETARDED. No matter how intelligent, no matter how well-studied, you can still be a defective person if you have defective ethics. I don't see any point in trying to reason with a human being who considers anyone who opposes the will of the leaders of his tribe to be terrorists or enemy combatants or whatever the designation of the week is. I don't see any point in trying to reason with you because there is NOTHING, no crime, no horror, that the ethically retarded human is not capable of rationalizing.
If we are at war with Afghanistan, and there is no due process on the battlefield, then I would consider it perfectly justifiable for the Afghanis to steal a Pakistani nuke and detonate it in an American city. All the people who think it was morally sound to use nukes on Japan DURING WAR shouldn't cry if the Taliban nukes San Diego, a clear military target. You don't carry your reasoning all the way through. YOU are the special ones whose lives matter, and THEY are just them - targets.
How many weddings, funerals, markets, and religious services have the drones bombed? Many, many, many. Look at it this way. There ARE terrorists in Afghanistan which do cruel things, without a doubt. But why is bombing their neighborhood considered and appropriate response? Should the US Government drop 2-ton bombs on Mafia don's surburban homes? Why not? It would protect American police WARGARBL. You would be insane with anger if the government decided to solve its problems with gun running by blasting the house and half the block from 40,000 feet. But you don't mind when they do it to Afghanis, because ---- ? As to your claims that the United States is morally sound because it doesn't commit open genocide (anymore,) I find that point of view to be the sole providence of the fucking insane.
Now that the reign of the petrodollar is over, console yourself with the fact that America will no longer be able to fuel its multifarious instruments of death. I just hope that we withdraw all our soldiers from the Middle East while it's still an option.